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Anomalies of the Mars Santa Maria (Crater)

Started by rdunk, February 04, 2015, 05:04:18 AM

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rdunk

Quote from: ArMaP on February 15, 2015, 12:19:05 AM
I don't have the slightest idea of what an "old window water cooler fan" looks like.  ???

Well ArMaP, I just should not assume.........they are actually sometimes referred to as "swamp coolers"! However, "Evaporative Water Cooler" is a more appropriate description. They were the forerunner to freon type air-conditioning, and are still very useful in low humidity environments for cooling enclosed living and work areas. Here are two pics - one with cooler installled in a window, and the other just a simple full pic of a cooler. These are also installed on roof-tops in some places.

If you can see the rectangular white boxes in this anomaly post, then I think you will see why my comparison to these types of coolers. :)






ArMaP

Thanks, now I know what you mean. :)

And although I see the one on the right (but think it's just part of the rock, as you probably expected), I don't see the one on the left.

A long PS: On my previous posts I forgot to look for the images on the Opportunity Analyst's Notebook site, so now I went to the site, downloaded the radiometrically corrected IMG files and converted them to PNG (with IMG2PNG and small program I made and a value of 20 for the radiometric correction), and this is what I got. :)

The image you posted


The same image, but from the left camera


From the left camera, but with the green filter


From the left camera, with the violet filter


As I had three images from three different channels I made a colour version, although I prefer to use photos from filter 6 (blue) instead of 7 (violet), but this was what I got.

Without any adjustments


With automatic level adjustments made in Gimp

rdunk

ArMaP said, "And although I see the one on the right (but think it's just part of the rock, as you probably expected), I don't see the one on the left".

:) You are right about the "expected", but I did expect you to "see" them both, because they are just there to see.

About the "just part of the rock" you mentioned - That "rock" has some peculiar features, for it to be "just a rock"! First, the shaped white box that is obviously attached to that structure is very unusual. Secondly, the raised opening with horizontal line top and vertical sides in the front lower part of that "rock" is very unusual for "just a rock"! Rather it is more like an entry-way. Notice there is some type of lighter color material covering the floor of that entry-way, and one can see the shadow striking it on & into/under the  entry-way opening. We simply cannot disregard the look of an opening/entry-way here, especially with everything else that is here. Then there is the second white box just behind it, those strange-looking mechanical vertical wheels beside it, that possible raised cross just across the street..........., and numerous other anomalies in this general area yet to be posted!! 

I do believe that there is something overall significant for us to see here at Santa Maria Crater.

ArMaP, I don't think you have commented on the "mechanical wheels" posted earlier here yet either?? :)


ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on February 15, 2015, 10:14:59 PM
:) You are right about the "expected", but I did expect you to "see" them both, because they are just there to see.
I suppose I have to look more carefully. :)

QuoteAbout the "just part of the rock" you mentioned - That "rock" has some peculiar features, for it to be "just a rock"! First, the shaped white box that is obviously attached to that structure is very unusual.
I don't think it looks "obviously attached", as to me it looks part of the rock, and not unusual.

QuoteSecondly, the raised opening with horizontal line top and vertical sides in the front lower part of that "rock" is very unusual for "just a rock"! Rather it is more like an entry-way. Notice there is some type of lighter color material covering the floor of that entry-way, and one can see the shadow striking it on & into/under the  entry-way opening.
I really have to look more carefully at the photo, as I don't see any thing like that description. ???

QuoteArMaP, I don't think you have commented on the "mechanical wheels" posted earlier here yet either?? :)
I didn't comment because they look nothing like wheels to me.

Pimander

I can see the cross shape (it looks like a rock casting four bands of shadow in a cross shape) but I am having problems seeing anything else.  I definitely can't see an air conditioning unit.

rdunk, I think you need to add more labels to your pictures so that we can see exactly what your description matches as I am more confused now you explained it more.  I'll admit I'm not great at image analysis so other people can probably see more but it is easy to see patterns, like when we look up to the clouds.

rdunk

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ArMaP said, "I didn't comment because they look nothing like wheels to me".

ArMaP, but do you see the "circular features" of elements noted in the posted pic?? Not referring to ground rolling type wheels, but rather working type wheels, like cog wheels, sprocket wheels, water wheels, gear wheels, ,etc. - I initially simply said "mechanical wheels"! The features are not representative of rocks at all, and if you can notice, the small wheel nearest to us in the pic shows us that it is mostly open on the inside of it. Very typical of some sprocket/cog wheels on this Earth.

I do wonder the purpose of these mechanical wheel-type anomalies. Maybe to pump water from underground/etc, etc, etc.......... . :))




ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on February 18, 2015, 02:48:35 AM
ArMaP, but do you see the "circular features" of elements noted in the posted pic??
I see them, but I don't think they are circular (they look more elliptical), so they do not look like wheels to me. :)

QuoteThe features are not representative of rocks at all, and if you can notice, the small wheel nearest to us in the pic shows us that it is mostly open on the inside of it.
I think the features are common in the rocks present on that area, only the general shape is slightly unusual.

QuoteI do wonder the purpose of these mechanical wheel-type anomalies. Maybe to pump water from underground/etc, etc, etc.......... . :))
Rocks don't have a specific purpose, so I don't wonder about anything about it. ;)

rdunk

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ArMaP, it is very obvious that that the wheel-features I have noted above are not "elliptical", as you suggest. For sure one can see nearly 1/2 of the nearest wheel, and it is perfectly circular - at least that is what I see on my display screen! And......, we can see enough of each of the other three to know they are most likely circular too.

No, from what I see, these are not common rocks, nor rocks of any sort. These wheel anomalies present us here with possible more proof of intelligent design, useful for some purpose on Mars. :)

ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on February 18, 2015, 07:20:00 PM
ArMaP, it is very obvious that that the wheel-features I have noted above are not "elliptical", as you suggest.
I know that a circumference in perspective is an ellipse, but I don't think perspective alone is responsible for the elliptical shape I see.

If those are perfect circumferences then you should be able to perfectly fit a circle over them. I'm too lazy to try it. ;D

rdunk

This next anomaly I am posting from the Santa maria Mars Crater is not a significant piece, but is significant for what it possibly implies - intelligent design - as so do many anomalies in this general area. I call this one a "White Designed Piece". What I see is a small somewhat circular multi-layer stepped object that has the look (Earth experience) of possibly being similar to a "top-cap" of some sort of vertical constructed item/tower.

I have noted this anomaly in the pic within a pink ring, in a pic with a couple of the other anomalies I have noted earlier in this OP. This piece is just laying there in the pic, with no seeable connective relationship to anything else there. 

That is what I see - what do you see? :)


ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on March 18, 2015, 09:57:40 PM
That is what I see - what do you see? :)
Nothing specific, it's too small, without enough detail.

rdunk

Quote from: ArMaP on March 18, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
Nothing specific, it's too small, without enough detail.

ArMaP, would you like to borrow my glasses? :) The white/light color piece in the pink circle shows up just fine, even from a significant distance photo shot. As I said, not much to look at, but is very un-natural looking, as I see it!

zazzafrazz

The cross is behind in the "valley" it's not on top of the rock.

OP, can you clarify, if this is an impact crater, you think humanoids planted a cross there after the fire, heat and general crushing?
Or it survived the impact?

ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on March 19, 2015, 01:13:36 AM
ArMaP, would you like to borrow my glasses? :)
No, thanks, I see well enough at the distance to the screen, my work and most of my hobbies rely on it. :)

When I say that's too small I am talking about the size of the feature in relation to the size of the pixels, as something that has just a couple of pixels doesn't have enough detail for us to see its real shape.

rdunk

Quote from: zazzafrazz on March 19, 2015, 01:25:58 AM
The cross is behind in the "valley" it's not on top of the rock.

OP, can you clarify, if this is an impact crater, you think humanoids planted a cross there after the fire, heat and general crushing?
Or it survived the impact?

Hey zazzafrazz, I appreciate your first forum post here being on my OP!! :) Welcome to the forum, and I will look forward to your comments to the many posts of everyone.! We may not always see things in the same way, but then often we do not have much help from NASA to work with in these anomaly posts, especially when they mess with the photos!

Relative to your comment here, about the placement of the cross. we do see it differently. To my view, the cross is on top of the flat surfaced whatever-it-is, and I assume there is some shadowing at and away from its base - just the way I see it.

There also numerous other anomalous items in this area, so feel free to post any that you might see.

Re: your question zazzafrazz about the crater - yes, it is an impact crater, and that is pretty much fact.....according to NASA. And......the NASA Rover photos themselves should be considered fact, except when they appear to have what looks like tampering. But for sure fact ends when we start conjecturing this or that about what humanoids might have done. However, there are other "impact craters" on Mars wherein the rover photos also seemingly (IM0) to indicate "perfect strikes" upon areas having demonstration of humanoid/intelligent design type presence.

Again, thanks for your comments!! :)