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Anomalies of the Mars Santa Maria (Crater)

Started by rdunk, February 04, 2015, 05:04:18 AM

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Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on March 19, 2015, 01:33:34 AM
When I say that's too small I am talking about the size of the feature in relation to the size of the pixels, as something that has just a couple of pixels doesn't have enough detail for us to see its real shape.
So what is the point in the pictures?  What a waste of money. :P

ArMaP

Quote from: Pimander on March 19, 2015, 12:11:28 PM
So what is the point in the pictures?  What a waste of money. :P
It's not a waste of money because when they want to see something with a better resolution they move the rover closer to the intended target.

Anyone interested in analysing the photos should take into account the limitations of the data used for their work  and act accordingly.

rdunk

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The specific shape of this and other anomalies in this thread are seable, for me, or I wouldn't post them! :o

As I see it, this white piece is even seeable in the totally unmagnified NASA photo, and its shape is the same as when fully magnified. Of course, knowing where to look in the photo helps to "see it" in its unmagnified photo condition! And this white piece looks just as unnatural unmagnified as it does when magnified, "IF ONE IS ABLE TO SEEE IT"!!! :)

ArMaP

After rereading your first post about this last "anomaly", I think I didn't see it because I was looking for a white object.

Are you talking about the object marked in red in the image below?



If you are, then I see it, and it looks like the other striated rocks on that area.

Dyna

I wonder if we know the geological makeup of the area? I think the rock in the foreground looks like Tuff or Pumac. Like Wheeler Geologic Area in San Juan Mountains area maybe. If so that would be the cause of the "fuzzy" look to it.
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rdunk

Quote from: Dyna on March 19, 2015, 06:05:40 PM
I wonder if we know the geological makeup of the area? I think the rock in the foreground looks like Tuff or Pumac. Like Wheeler Geologic Area in San Juan Mountains area maybe. If so that would be the cause of the "fuzzy" look to it.

Hi Dyna! I suppose something like that could be possible, but it usually seems to generally be happening on Mars wherein it looks more like it has been "applied" to just some of the rocks. And the application of "stuff' here seems to be on more thigs, and just "some" of the rocks. And some of the "application" results in looking like thatchy web-like stuff, as can be noted in several places here - like on the circular wheel anomalies posted earlier in this thread, and seeable in this latest anomaly pic too. It is easy to see that these wheel looking affairs are not rocks, and it is also easy to see the type-covering that almost hides them. And if one looks closely, one can see that "fuzzy-look" you mention is obviously on more than just the rock features.

Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on March 19, 2015, 02:47:38 PM
It's not a waste of money because when they want to see something with a better resolution they move the rover closer.
We need a closer shot of the Cross of Santa Maria.  Send the rover back please NASA!  The Martians are all Catholics.  ;D

rdunk

Quote from: Pimander on March 21, 2015, 01:48:27 AM
We need a closer shot of the Cross of Santa Maria.  Send the rover back please NASA!  The Martians are all Catholics.  ;D

Well, maybe more specifically Pi, they must be "Egyptian Catholics", since they also sculpted the Egyptian statue on the wall of Saint Vincent's Cape in the Victoria Crater!! :))

Sgt.Rocknroll

Need ARMAP to tell me exactly he got those img files. Want to look at them with HiRise.
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rdunk

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Quote from: ArMaP on March 19, 2015, 05:46:14 PM
After rereading your first post about this last "anomaly", I think I didn't see it because I was looking for a white object.

Are you talking about the object marked in red in the image below?



If you are, then I see it, and it looks like the other striated rocks on that area.

Yes, ArMaP, the "piece" that you have colored red is it, but the way I see it, it is not "just a natural pile of rocks". Rather it appears to me to be some sort of intelligent designed piece - multi level and semi-conical shaped, and larger at the base.

ArMaP

Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on March 21, 2015, 04:38:40 AM
Need ARMAP to tell me exactly he got those img files. Want to look at them with HiRise.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean, can you rephrase it?

Thanks in advance. :)

ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on March 21, 2015, 06:07:47 AM
Yes, ArMaP, the "piece" that you have colored red is it, but the way I see it, it is not "just a natural pile of rocks". Rather it appears to me to be some sort of intelligent designed piece - multi level and semi-conical shaped, and larger at the base.
Your use of "just a natural pile of rocks" makes it look like you are quoting me, but I didn't say that.

Pimander

I think the "pink" thing is a single rock.  I agree with ArMaP that it is striated in a similar way to other rocks in the picture.  The "cross" is more interesting but we need better images to know more about it in my opinion.

rdunk

Quote from: ArMaP on March 21, 2015, 04:34:16 PM
Your use of "just a natural pile of rocks" makes it look like you are quoting me, but I didn't say that.

You are right ArMaP! You did not say specifically "a pile of rocks". What you said was, "It looks like the other striated rocks on that area", which I assume means you think it looks like other natural (you think) rocks in that area!

The way I see this featured anomaly, it either is an intelligent designed and crafted piece (which I believe it to be), or it is as you in essence said, "Just your pile of natural striated rocks like the other striated rocks in that area".  :)

ArMaP

Quote from: rdunk on March 21, 2015, 05:07:58 PM
You are right ArMaP! You did not say specifically "a pile of rocks". What you said was, "It looks like the other striated rocks on that area", which I assume means you think it looks like other natural (you think) rocks in that area!
To be clearer about it, what I think that's a piece of a larger striated rock, like others in that photo.

QuoteThe way I see this featured anomaly, it either is an intelligent designed and crafted piece (which I believe it to be), or it is as you in essence said, "Just your pile of natural striated rocks like the other striated rocks in that area".  :)
Please stop using the word "pile" when referring to what I wrote, as I think that's one piece of rock, not a pile.

If you think that's an intelligent designed and crafted piece, what do you say about the other objects with a similar look?