Sharia Law in the US - Never Happen?

[Pimander]

While I do not agree with the enforced prohibition of anything, (partly because it is tyrannical, and partly because it simply does not work) alcohol is an insidious, toxic substance in my mind.  I rank it alongside methamphetamines, coke, and heroin as one of the most dangerous drugs in existence.  The damage it does both to the internal pH balance, and the organs, can be truly horrific.

Some of us believe in liberty.  All substances can be abused. 

Do I strike you as being a sick, unbalanced, poisoned person.  I have a whisky most nights.  I also have an IQ of 139 and recently cycled 103 miles in 5hrs45mins.  I don't think I know a 40 year old who is in better condition than me.  Based on that evidence I'd say a drink or two has done me little harm.  Placing alcohol in a similar brcket to Meth is complete BS.  Sorry mate but that is my opinion and it is based on real experience.

[zorgon]

Coexistence is possible, what we need is to get rid of the extremists (in all sides, religious, political, etc.).

Well here is one for YOU    But not to sure the Pope is the right guy to head this effort

[petrus4]

Some of us believe in liberty.  All substances can be abused. 

Do I strike you as being a sick, unbalanced, poisoned person.  I have a whisky most nights.  I also have an IQ of 139 and recently cycled 103 miles in 5hrs45mins.  I don't think I know a 40 year old who is in better condition than me.  Based on that evidence I'd say a drink or two has done me little harm.  Placing alcohol in a similar brcket to Meth is complete BS.  Sorry mate but that is my opinion and it is based on real experience.

To be fair where meth is concerned, I know of someone at the moment who has mainlined ice, and while he knew plenty of people who it did all kinds of damage to, he doesn't seem too much the worse for wear.  He is a little bit of a sociopath, perhaps; but where meth and sociopathy are concerned, there seems to be a chicken and egg paradox.  Does meth make someone a sociopath, or are inherent sociopaths attracted to meth?

If alcohol is not consumed excessively, and if a person's liver and kidneys are in decent shape, then it probably isn't going to hurt too much.  Given what I've seen alcohol do not only to myself but also a few other people, I'm still probably going to be uncomfortable around it; but as I said, there are plenty of claims going around about professionals who shoot heroin and are supposedly still productive.

To the extent that alcohol is harmful to physical health however, (as opposed to someone being a violent drunk) it usually only is long term.  A person can get as drunk as they like on a one off basis, short of alcohol poisoning, and they will probably be fine.  The damage is cumulative.

I completely believe in individual autonomy as well; but at this point, while other people can do whatever they like, there are certain things that I am no longer willing to do myself.

[zorgon]

Thread is about SHARIA LAW not substance abuse 

[Glaucon]

This thread addresses the true nature of the threat. I have joined an initiative in my community facilitated by DHS, FBI, NCTC,  and local public DPS called Countering Violent Extremism (CVE). Civilians and a couple DPS communication officers do the outreach in a GENUINE effort for good.

CAIR (COUNCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS) in my state has basically started a campaign of propoganda and race baiting. Their goal is to curb all the progress we've made!!!

The slow erosion of America's principles is the long term "existential" threat to democracy all over the world. Foreign media arms are acting as a huge force multiplier too. Left wing "were the nice ones" liberals are friging communists. They are being demoralized and subversed, essentially nurturing the political environment required for democratic processes aimed at undermining the principles of our Constutution.

[ArMaP]

Thread is about SHARIA LAW not substance abuse

Under Sharia law any intoxicant substance is forbidden.

[ArMaP]

This thread addresses the true nature of the threat. I have joined an initiative in my community facilitated by DHS, FBI, NCTC,  and local public DPS called Countering Violent Extremism (CVE). Civilians and a couple DPS communication officers do the outreach in a GENUINE effort for good.

What's "DPS"?

The slow erosion of America's principles is the long term "existential" threat to democracy all over the world.

"America's principles" may not be exactly the kind of democracy that the world wants. I know I didn't like "America's principles" when I saw some US ships with their guns pointing to my country's parliament 40 years ago. 

Foreign media arms are acting as a huge force multiplier too. Left wing "were the nice ones" liberals are friging communists. They are being demoralized and subversed, essentially nurturing the political environment required for democratic processes aimed at undermining the principles of our Constutution.

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by this.

[Pimander]

Sorry Zorgon, but Sharia law and freedom to take risks with your health are pretty closely linked if you ask me.

People who believe and enforce Sharia law have no regard for my freedom.  Neither do people who think they have a right to stop me making my own choices about what I believe, how I live or how I express myself.  It is high time - at least in Europe - that we spoke out against Muslims who think they have a say in whether I can draw a picture of a man called Mohammed.  The key to a civilised society for me is the right to choose how I live and how I express myself without fear for my safety. Anybody who wished to take away that right I will happily fight.

[ArMaP]

The key to a civilised society for me is the right to choose how I live and how I express myself without fear for my safety.

I think the key to a civilized society is respect.

[Pimander]

I think the key to a civilized society is respect.

Yes.  Respecting the rights of another man/woman to live their life how they choose is pretty much what I mean too.

Shooting people for drawing a picture is not civilised - it is primitive.  There are other examples from religion but that is an obvious one.

[ArMaP]

Shooting people for drawing a picture is not civilised - it is primitive.  There are other examples from religion but that is an obvious one.

I agree, but drawing a picture just to provoke other people is not being civilized either.

[zorgon]

Shooting people for drawing a picture is not civilised - it is primitive.  There are other examples from religion but that is an obvious one.

Even Communist Russia allowed political cartoons as an outlet for people's frustration

[ArMaP]

Even Communist Russia allowed political cartoons as an outlet for people's frustration

During the Portuguese fascist regime political cartoons had to be made in a way that didn't make the message obvious, unless it was telling how good the regime was.

[zorgon]

I think what is the hardest to overlook is the fact that it appears that all Muslim men can think about is RAPE

The minister used that as an excuse to ban women drivers. In Dubai Western women go to jail because having a drink in public means they want to get raped so are fair game. Even gay men have been raped for being gay  Ummm say what? how does that even make any sense?

The Burka is there to stop them from thinking about raping the women. If they show any skin they are obviously asking to be raped so its their duty to rape them

Over exaggerated?  I think not based on the actions

Now it wasn't that long ago that women got some freedom even here in the USA  but we evolved 

In Iran under the Shaw  who may or may not have been a nice guy women had freedom and showed they didn't really LIKE the burka as many claim on facebook. Its not the same as a Nun's habit where they CHOSE to wear it

So what is this OBSESION they have with rape? And they use passages from the Qu'ran to justify it as their right. I guess that whole 21 Virgins thing goes to that too.

Sick minds... rapists... and we are supposed to play nice

Are all Muslim men rapists?  Dunno   Probably not But the mindset of women as their property is certainly there


Oh what the hell  Lets go back to Medieval Times I want a half dozen women slaves and a Hareem

I miss my Dancers 



But in today's world my Alter Ego of Omar Kharim Ali Allah Ackbar isn't to safe. Was never an issue before, as the Kingdom of Caid (California/Nevada ) is basically Middle Eastern recreation  But with real war on the horizon, even the Belly Dancers are being more cautious

[ArMaP]

The Burka is there to stop them from thinking about raping the women. If they show any skin they are obviously asking to be raped so its their duty to rape them

The burqa is only used in some places, so that shows that it's not a religious obligation but an interpretation by some religious leaders.

The Quran says nothing about burqas, it only says that women (and men) should dress modestly and hide the parts of their bodies that can be seen as a kind of "sexual advertisement".

In Iran under the Shaw  who may or may not have been a nice guy women had freedom and showed they didn't really LIKE the burka as many claim on facebook. Its not the same as a Nun's habit where they CHOSE to wear it

In fact, the hijab was forbidden (in Iran they do not use burqas), the women that wanted to use them could not, as the police forced them to remove it.

The Shah was not a nice guy.

So what is this OBSESION they have with rape? And they use passages from the Qu'ran to justify it as their right. I guess that whole 21 Virgins thing goes to that too.

What passages? I don't remember any.