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Started by zorgon, February 11, 2015, 09:12:24 AM

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Glaucon

Quote from: ArMaP on February 15, 2015, 02:01:18 PM
What's "DPS"? ???
"America's principles" may not be exactly the kind of democracy that the world wants. I know I didn't like "America's principles" when I saw some US ships with their guns pointing to my country's parliament 40 years ago.  ::)
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by this. ???$FTJ/5s[b@t^tK&3
Department of public saftey. Local authorities.

Employing US principles, in domestic politics and personal assessment.

The face of modern warfare is elusive. Demoralization and subversion may or may not be a critical component in this new kind of hybrid warfare. With the communication technology common to nearly everyone today, Objectives of foreign interests can now be consolidated WITHOUT the use of conventional force (the type common in the historical context)

The world is very different today.
"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

Glaucon

Employing US princies, not deploying them.
"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

Glaucon

This is a a document/text I read recently. It's the best material available to inform Western opinion of Islamic philosophy. I had lots of "wow, good point/that's genius" moments while reading it
http://www.mihraab.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Reliance-of-the-Traveler-Translation.pdf
"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

zorgon

On a Tip from a retired spook :D "Operation Hornets Nest"

Operation Hornets Nest: Alleged Snowden document says US/UK/Israel are behind ISIS



From Gulf Daily News...

The former employee at US National Security Agency (NSA), Edward Snowden, has revealed that the British and American intelligence and the Mossad worked together to create the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS).

Snowden said intelligence services of three countries created a terrorist organisation that is able to attract all extremists of the world to one place, using a strategy called "the hornet's nest".

NSA documents refer to recent implementation of the hornet's nest to protect the Zionist entity by creating religious and Islamic slogans.

According to documents released by Snowden, "The only solution for the protection of the Jewish state "is to create an enemy near its borders".

Leaks revealed that ISIS leader and cleric Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi took intensive military training for a whole year in the hands of Mossad, besides courses in theology and the art of speech..

Facts:

1) ISIS leader Al-Baghdadi was once a super-high level prisoner of the US government. Despite the fact that the US had offered a ten million dollar reward for him, the Obama regime ordered his release in 2009.

2) The Obama regime, with major support from Senate neo-cons John McCain and Lindsey Graham, gave hundreds of millions in military aid to Sunni Jihadists in Syria. Thousands of individuals receiving US aid are now members of ISIS. In fact, ISIS has even posted pictures of ISIS fighters with US Senator John McCain on the internet.

3) Israel has directly aided Sunni Jihadists in Syria by bombing Syrian military assets during Jihadist attacks.

4) The Israeli Prime Minister has reacted to the ISIS spearheaded Sunni/Shia Civil War in Iraq with borderline glee. The president of Israel has also suggested that a Sunni/Shia war is beneficial to the future of Israel.

5) The US and Britiain provided Sunni Jihadists with Toyota trucks in Syria. When, an army of ISIS fighters rolled over the Syria/Iraq border it looked like a commercial for Toyota.


http://conservative-headlines.com/2014/07/operation-hornets-nest-alleged-snowden-document-says-usukisrael-are-behind-isis/

Baghdadi 'Mossad trained'
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/NewsDetails.aspx?storyid=381153


From the past...

The CIA's "Operation
Cyclone" - Stirring The Hornet's
Nest Of Islamic Unrest


FriendsOfLiberty.com
10-27-2

Zbigniew Brzezinski not long ago revealed that on July 3, 1979, unknown to the American public and Congress, President Jimmy Carter secretly authorized $500 million to create an international terrorist movement that would spread Islamic fundamentalism in Central Asia and "de-stabilise" the Soviet Union...
The CIA called this Operation Cyclone and in the following years poured $4 billion into setting up Islamic training schools in Pakistan (Taliban means "student").

Young zealots were sent to the CIA's spy training camp in Virginia, where future members of al-Qaeda were taught "sabotage skills" - terrorism.

Others were recruited at an Islamic school in Brooklyn, New York, within sight of the fated Twin Towers.

In Pakistan, they were directed by British MI6 officers and trained by the SAS.

The result, quipped Brzezinski, was "a few stirred up Muslims" - meaning the Taliban.

The Wall Street Journal declared: "The Taliban are the players most capable of achieving peace. Moreover, they were crucial to secure the country as a prime trans-shipment route for the export of Central Asia's vast oil, gas and other natural resources."

No American newspaper dares suggest that the prisoners in Camp X-Ray are the product of this policy, nor that it was one of the factors that led to the attacks of September 11.

Nor do they ask: who were the real winners of September 11?

The day the Wall Street stock market opened after the destruction of the Twin Towers, the few companies showing increased value were the giant military contractors Alliant Tech Systems, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon (a contributor to New Labor) and Lockheed Martin.

As the US military's biggest supplier, Lockheed Martin's share value rose by a staggering 30 per cent.

Within six weeks of September 11, the company (with its main plant in Texas, George Bush's home state) had secured the biggest military order in history: a $200 billion contract to develop a new fighter aircraft. The greatest taboo of all, which Orwell would surely recognize, is the record of the United States as a terrorist state and haven for terrorists.

This truth is virtually unknown by the American public and makes a mockery of Bush's (and Blair's) statements about "tracking down terrorists wherever they are."

They don't have to look far.

Florida, currently governed by the President's brother, Jeb Bush, has given refuge to terrorists who, like the September 11 gang, have hi-jacked aircraft and boats with guns and knives.

Most have never had criminal charges brought against them.

Why? All of them are anti-Castro Cubans. Former Guatemalan Defence Minister Gramajo Morales, who was accused of "devising and directing an indiscriminate campaign of terror against civilians", including the torture of an American nun and the massacre of eight people from one family, studied at Harvard University on a US government scholarship.

During the 1980s, thousands of people were murdered by death squads connected to the army of El Salvador, whose former chief now lives comfortably in Florida.

The former Haitian dictator, General Prosper Avril, liked to display the bloodied victims of his torture on television.

When he was overthrown, he was flown to Florida by the US government, and granted political asylum.

A leading member of the Chilean military during the reign of General Pinochet, whose special responsibility was executions and torture, lives in Miami.

THE Iranian general who ran Iran's notorious prisons, is a wealthy exile in the US.

One of Pol Pot's senior henchmen, who enticed Cambodian exiles back to their certain death, lives in Mount Vernon, New York.

What all these people have in common, apart from their history of terrorism, is that they either worked directly for the US government or carried out the dirty work of US policies.

The al-Qaeda training camps are kindergartens compared with the world's leading university of terrorism at Fort Benning in Georgia. Known until recently as the School of the Americas, its graduates include almost half the cabinet ministers of the genocidal regimes in Guatemala, two thirds of the El Salvadoran army officers who committed, according to the United Nations, the worst atrocities of that country's civil war, and the head of Pinochet's secret police, who ran Chile's concentration camps.

There is terrible irony at work here. The humane response of people all over the world to the terrorism of September 11 has long been hijacked by those running a rapacious great power with a history of terrorism second to none. Global supremacy, not the defeat of terrorism, is the goal; only the politically blind believe otherwise.


http://www.rense.com/general31/cyc.htm

Glaucon

I wouldn't let Snowden join my son's schools PTA group. But I guess he's free to flap his retardedly extreme overly simplified understanding of how the IC works.
"The beginning of wisdom comes with the definition of terms" -Socrates

"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

dreb13

US soldiers raped Iraqi boys in front of their mothers

Now, over a decade later the evidence of these events are beginning to surface...


According to various well respected journalists, including Seymour Hersh, the appalling video was recorded at Abu Ghraib, the notorious US torture dungeon in Iraq that made headlines roughly a decade ago, when the inhumane tactics being used at the prison were exposed.

Sadly, it seems that the evidence released years ago was only scratching the surface.

While the video has remained under wraps thus far, Hersh says it is only a matter of time before it comes out.

Giving a speech at the ACLU last week after the senate torture report was initially released, Hersh gave some insight into what was on the Pentagon's secret tape.

In the most revealing portion of his speech he said that:

"Debating about it, ummm ... Some of the worst things that happened you don't know about, okay? Videos, um, there are women there. Some of you may have read that they were passing letters out, communications out to their men. This is at Abu Ghraib ... The women were passing messages out saying 'Please come and kill me, because of what's happened' and basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys, children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. And the worst above all of that is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has. They are in total terror. It's going to come out."

"It's impossible to say to yourself how did we get there? Who are we? Who are these people that sent us there? When I did My Lai I was very troubled like anybody in his right mind would be about what happened. I ended up in something I wrote saying in the end I said that the people who did the killing were as much victims as the people they killed because of the scars they had, I can tell you some of the personal stories by some of the people who were in these units witnessed this. I can also tell you written complaints were made to the highest officers and so we're dealing with a enormous massive amount of criminal wrongdoing that was covered up at the highest command out there and higher, and we have to get to it and we will. We will. You know there's enough out there, they can't (Applause). .... So it's going to be an interesting election year."

Put into context with another speech that Hersh gave earlier this year, it becomes clear that the women who witnessed these young boys being raped were actually their mothers.


http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/12/29/513543us-soldiers-raped-iraqi-boys-in-front-of-their-mothers/

http://www.salon.com/2004/07/15/hersh_7/


Sounds like a lot of people can get rapey these days....not just those pesky Moslems.  Humons are animals when they want to be.


starwarp2000

I don't know about the US, but Britain is on the verge of falling to Islam!

They tried to take over schools in Birmingham (They did take over schools!)

http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9230681/save-our-children-from-the-islamists/

At least 16 regions of Britain have Imam's calling for Sharia Law and/or have already introduced it, in so called "Islamic No-Go Areas".

They raped and forced into sexual slavery 8,000 young British girls (The youngest was 8 yrs old) and murdered 1400 of them when they used them up. To them these girls are "meat".

Remember! This is NON RADICAL ISLAM! These are the people spouting daily how ISLAM is a religion of Peace!

The response of the British Government is pathetic, cowardly and a disgrace that should be punished. But it's too late! Other countries better learn their tactics (US, New Zealand, Australia) before they become the next victims. BUT! THEY HAVE PATHETIC GOVERNMENTS TOO!

This video sums up the British response to NON Radical ISLAM:

Muslims Chase Cops in London....Police Run for Cover:





Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

08rubicon

   There are some who believe every thing they see or hear, if it fits their
agenda..It may be best to think that everything is faked, until proven
otherwise. We see fake videos every day
   One that comes to mind is the 7 ft. tall isis with their captives exposed
  just lately. Some think this may be faked.
      rubicon

starwarp2000

#83
Barry seems to be in Denial!

President Obama Summit Violent Extremism Full Speech - We aren't at war with Islam





Open your eyes Barry! Look at how Islam overall has acted in ALL the countries it has invaded! Attacking ISLAM isn't racist, it's a religion! Stop lying about ISLAM.

When it comes to ISLAM: Don't Believe what they say, observe how they act. Their actions do not match their rhetoric!
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

starwarp2000

Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

starwarp2000

Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

starwarp2000

Islamic child exploitation gangs, now it is also an Australian problem.

QuoteThe Melbourne Herald has reported that children who are wards of the State of Victoria are being subjected to sexual exploitation by various gangs, including ones made up of Muslim Afghans. This is a similar modus operandi to what we've seen in Britain where Islamic gangs target vulnerable children and then sell them into prostitution.

http://www.fahrenheit211.net/2014/10/07/islamic-child-exploitation-gangs-now-it-is-also-an-australian-problem/

Guess what the gang members received as punishment?
What do you think they deserved?
Wouldn't you make an example of them to deter other Muslim men from perpetrating the same crimes?

NO, NOT IN AUSTRALIA!

No convictions! Just 'restraining orders' to prevent them from seeing those girls!

So what did the perpetrators do?
They continued with a new batch of girls!

The responses of Government and Law enforcement are pathetic and if I was sarcastic, I would say you will get what you deserve by not stopping them, NOW!
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

ArMaP

Quote from: starwarp2000 on February 21, 2015, 06:58:47 PM
Islamic child exploitation gangs, now it is also an Australian problem.

http://www.fahrenheit211.net/2014/10/07/islamic-child-exploitation-gangs-now-it-is-also-an-australian-problem/
I suppose this part of the article doesn't matter.  ::)

QuoteAs well as the Dandenong-based Afghani gang, one agency operating residential units has identified a network of 12 "Anglo" men who had worked together to sexually exploit teens in its care — information that it has passed on to police.

starwarp2000

#88
Actually Armap, they were never brought to trial. (The 12 anglo men)
From information i have, they were 'undercover' Police.
Notice! They don't appear in this report:

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/03/11/gangs-accused-preying-state-wards

But this line should inform you: In a statement, Victoria Police said it worked closely with the Department of Human Services to prevent children in protection from being sexually exploited.

Hint! Hint!  ;)
Sit down before fact like a small child, and be prepared to give up every preconceived notion, follow humbly wherever and to whatever abyss nature lead, or you will learn nothing. —T. H. Huxley

zorgon

Need to check this one  Can't believe everything on the Internet after all :P

But if true  we are already sliding downhill