Should We Be Afraid Of Aliens?

[astr0144]

Should We Be Afraid Of Aliens?

In the long list of modern fears, bloodthirsty aliens may not rank near the top. We have more immediate worries, from terrorism and bioengineered (or not) global epidemics to nuclear holocaust and natural disasters.




However, the notion that other intelligences exist out there in the universe is pervasive in popular culture. Mirrors to our own history, in particular colonial exploitations, aliens are often portrayed as evil invaders bent on coming here to wreak havoc.

How realistic are these scenarios, given what we know now about astronomy and the possibility of life in other worlds?

Stephen Hawking, among others, has suggested that we should be very careful with aggressive aliens — that, in fact, we should be as stealthy as possible, lest we reveal our presence and location to predatory ETs in our cosmic neighborhood.

There are three parts to this. The first concerns the existence of other worlds with habitable conditions — that is, that can harbor life as we know it. Thanks to the efforts of the many planet hunters out there, in particular the remarkable results from NASA's Kepler mission, we now know that most stars have planets surrounding them. Thousands of these planets have been identified, and, among these, several have properties similar to Earth: rocky and within the habitable zone of their main star. Although the majority of these orbit small and cooler M dwarf stars, where conditions for life may be very harsh indeed, the fact is that we should expect a few Earth-like worlds within a distance of about 1,000 light years or so.

Whether any of these potentially habitable worlds are, in fact, able to harbor life, is another story. In the next few decades, with combined efforts from the James Webb Space Telescope and the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (TESS) mission, as well as missions from the European Space Agency, we should know better how rare such Earth-like planets are and, with luck, have a rough idea of their atmospheric composition. We should be able to know if their atmospheres have some of the right ingredients for harboring life. (There are, however, several potential shortcomings with these missions. For a very nice review of the situation, see Lee Billings' recent article for Scientific American.)

But let's be generous and grant that there are other Earth-like planets out there with the right conditions for life. We then hit the second part of the issue: the existence of life and, more to the point, of complex life forms in one or more of these worlds. Life emerged and took root fairly quickly here on Earth, only some 400 millions years after conditions settled at about 3.5 billion years ago. It may have emerged earlier; we still don't know. This is good news for life elsewhere: If it emerged quickly here, it can't be that hard. But, in fact, we don't really know how hard it is for life to emerge.

At face value, the transition from nonlife to life seems incredibly complex. But even if it's fairly easy, what happens next is crucial: To go from simple life, consisting of unicellular organisms, to complex life requires a series of extremely unlikely events. And the unlikeliness is not only related to tough biological mutations and metabolic pathways that have to be cleared up, but to the marriage of life to the planet as a whole. We can't understand the history of life in a planet without understanding the history of the planet; the two go hand in hand. This means that for life to emerge in a planet is different from for life to evolve in that planet in a path toward increasing complexity. There is nothing in evolution that tells us that once life emerges it will become increasingly more complex. What evolution does tell us is that life is in a constant struggle for adaptation, Darwin's theory of natural selection. That accidental mutations lead to better-adapted life forms does not imply that these life forms will steadily become more complex. In other words, finding life in another planet is a far cry from finding complex, multicellular life forms, much less intelligent life forms. True, intelligence grants a huge benefit toward adaptation (selective advantage), as we see here. But it is not a necessary condition for adaptation. Just think that of the 3.5 billion years that life has existed on Earth, we've only been here for about 200,000 years.

But, again, let's be generous and grant that intelligent life forms do exist in one or more worlds within a few thousand light years from us. Should we fear them? This is the third part of the issue. We have absolutely no idea what kind of minds such intelligences would have — and of what technological stage they'd have reached. What we do know is that they haven't been here yet. Or, if they have, they left without leaving any clues. (Unless, of course, we are their creations, a topic for another blog.)

http://www.npr.org/blogs/13.7/2015/02/11/385413799/should-we-be-afraid-of-aliens

[zorgon]

We probably should fear aliens...

I look at it this way

If they are GOOD Aliens they would most likely have a 'hands off' policy similar to the Prime Directive of Star Trek

If they are bad aliens they would do things like abduct people against their will, perform medical experiment on them, beam up cows and mutilate them, create secret bases like Dulce  etc

So what does our evidence say?

People get abducted
In the 0's they supposedly warned us
Cows are mutilated and it's assumed it's ET
People recall being experimented on\
Most UFO believers are convinced DULCE is real
The Grays, the Reptilans, The Tall White  all skulk about in secret
There are rumors that the government made a deal  Technology for the occasional (10,000 a year) body
There are rumors that they Aliens broke the treaty and take more
There are millions of people disappearing
There are people that claim they have alien implants

Okay so  how many good ET stories?

Well the Pleadians channel to people and promise help and never show up
The GFL has made several promise to appear and are always no show
People sit in fields and pay big bucks to see invisible alien

We have Billy Meier contact   -- most likely a hoax
We have George Adamski contact - maybe a hoax
We have Howard Menger contact...
We have the Venusian contact Val Thor and kin

ALL of those including the Hannebu style saucers fit more with NAZI tall blondes and NAZI UFO's then any real Aliens

So yeah  IF there are Aliens  they are NOT your friend because in all the years since Roswell not one has ever shown themselves to be friendly and say "Hi Here I am!"

[Toltec]

I guess there is everything, but hostile far the universe is predatory in nature


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[astr0144]

I always wonder also with ETs if they could change in appearance and could be amongst us humans...like the many Sci Fi movies we have seen..

In the the new movie "Jupiter Ascending".. ET Greys are shown to change to Human form and back..



Captain Mark Richards who has been imprisoned for 30 years by the US Gov,who is said to have been a member of the secret space program says one of these Lizards lives in a castle on a Scottish Island.

I went to see "Jupiter Ascending" the other night  (Recommend seeing for the effects in 3 D..quite an amazing experience ) and was surprised to see such a Alien in the Movie..who reminds me just as Mark Richards wife described to me at an event I went to..

A hard one to believe, but seeing this character in the movie makes me wonder !

The Grays, the Reptilans, The Tall White  all skulk about in secret

So what does our evidence say?

People get abducted
In the 0's they supposedly warned us
Cows are mutilated and it's assumed it's ET
People recall being experimented on\
Most UFO believers are convinced DULCE is real
The Grays, the Reptilans, The Tall White  all skulk about in secret
There are rumors that the government made a deal  Technology for the occasional (10,000 a year) body
There are rumors that they Aliens broke the treaty and take more
There are millions of people disappearing
There are people that claim they have alien implants

[ArMaP]

I don't think we should fear something we don't really know it's real or not.

In Portuguese (and other countries') folklore there have always been creatures to scare the children, things like ogres, trolls, the bogeyman, and, what I suppose was a creation of my great-grandmother, the "naked man with a knife in his pocket".

Are today's Aliens something like that, something that was created only to instil fear or, at least, doubt, in human minds or are they really here?

[petrus4]

It is very interesting that we're seeing the Reptilians openly, at this point.  Then again, there was also V, of course.

My take?  Yes, the Reppies are out there; but again, I'm not particularly worried.  The Reptilians are a strongly STS polarised/predatory group, who've basically bought into the whole fascism meme about how war is both unavoidable and necessary, yada yada yada, blah blah blah.  I also refer to this as the Quaritch Doctrine, after the below image.



There are probably about as many of these types of aliens around as there are the benevolent/non-predatory type.  What most people don't realise, however, is that the ones we interact with, is determined by sympathetic resonance, AKA the Law of Correspondence.  So if you happen to be a predatory, warmongering fascist asshole yourself, then sure, the Reptilians are going to be attracted to you, and will also be capable of interacting with you, because you're on their frequency.  So you can get down with them and do the whole Warhammer 40K routine to your hearts' content.

If you'd rather hang out with beings of light, on the other hand; or simply intergalactic stoners, then that's possible too.



On a recent mushroom trip, for some reason I experienced some momentary panic.  Looking around, I noticed that the plants nearby had morphed into nasty, pointed, fierce looking shapes with black and red colours.  Once I took a few deep breaths and calmed down, on the other hand, I saw them morph back into their usual shapes, along with the customary green colours.

Most people aren't aware of the fact that reality is like that even when you are not on psychedelics.  You see exactly what you want to see.

[Phedre]

I wonder who we should be more fearful of ,Them or Us? 

[Ellirium113]

I wonder who we should be more fearful of ,Them or Us? 

Well with no Government oversight into private corporation's space-capades it is not a question of IF we will exploit them should we encounter them. It is a question of WHEN? Even in the movie ALIEN...as fierce, predatory and intelligent as they seemed to be, lo and behold the humans came along and tried to exploit them as expected which brought about their own demise in several movies. No matter how vile, fierce or cute and cuddly they will be...they should keep away from us humans for their own good.

[space otter]

...they should keep away from us humans for their own good.


YEP

[zorgon]

They already figured that out LOL Their haven't been any real visits for years  Maybe they been watching our latest movies,

Would an Alien watching our TV broadcasts be able to separate our News Casts from Science Fiction?

Hmmmm I wonder

[rdunk]

When "man" advances enough to be able to get "out there", what will be our term for any and all humanoids also "out there"?? It seems to me that the term "alien" only has application to a being other than man, while man is on this planet. When man steps off this planet, then don't we need to think of ourselves as "people of Earth", relative to peoples from else where??

If there is anything to fear, I say it is our apparent lack of world preparedness to openly receive/welcome/meet and communicate directly with peoples from other worlds. Earth being unprepared could be the basis for our need to be "afraid", but, as ArMaP says, there is no publicized/public reality of off-planet humanoids, so why be so?? And when we finally publicly break the spacial "umbilical-cord" that has kept us pretty much bound to this planet, then we can hold our heads high, and greet any others who are out there.



                                                     

[zorgon]

They showed us a Giant Cockroach on MIB  what if they are bugs?

[ArMaP]

When "man" advances enough to be able to get "out there", what will be our term for any and all humanoids also "out there"?? It seems to me that the term "alien" only has application to a being other than man, while man is on this planet. When man steps off this planet, then don't we need to think of ourselves as "people of Earth", relative to peoples from else where??

"Alien" means "foreigner", so in the very unlikely event of Earth humans finding extraterrestrial humans, even if they are from the same species, they will still be alien to Earth, in the same way people talk about "illegal aliens".

If there is anything to fear, I say it is our apparent lack of world preparedness to openly receive/welcome/meet and communicate directly with peoples from other worlds.

I think that's just an inferiority complex spread by those that would like to act as "groupies" of aliens, so they would look "cooler" than the rest.