Strange lights on dwarf planet Ceres have scientists perplexed

Started by RUSSO, February 26, 2015, 06:48:35 AM

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Dyna

Quote from: ArMaP on December 11, 2015, 08:40:32 PM
Why? Do you have a better theory?  :)
yes it is a mining camp, the mountain in fact may be mined minerals fro transport.

In the 70's they determined Ceres had magnesium clays and yet it took this long at this distance to know salt when they see it. They went into orbit what March.This same are had a plume that was seem long ago.

But i am of a mind that some of the small moons are artificial so I know what you will be thinking on my views Lol :-*
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rdunk

Quote from: Dyna on December 12, 2015, 09:33:18 PM
yes it is a mining camp, the mountain in fact may be mined minerals fro transport.

In the 70's they determined Ceres had magnesium clays and yet it took this long at this distance to know salt when they see it. They went into orbit what March.This same are had a plume that was seem long ago.

But i am of a mind that some of the small moons are artificial so I know what you will be thinking on my views Lol :-*

What we are seeing on Ceres very well could be sloppiness at a radioactive waste dump site - simply fly-over and drop it!!  8)

Dyna

Quote from: rdunk on December 13, 2015, 06:36:55 AM
What we are seeing on Ceres very well could be sloppiness at a radioactive waste dump site - simply fly-over and drop it!!  8)

Interesting thought, I like it!! :)
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Dyna

I assume these are the last pictures.
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/spaceimages/index.php?search=Dawn




The South pole looks interesting

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Dyna

Door yes big one  :)
I have seen no ever comment on the black triangle which is in most of the Ceres pictures. What do you make of it? you have noted it i am sure! :) Also what is the black thing in the crater at the bottom of the lighted area just below the C shaped area?
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Quote from: Dyna on December 24, 2015, 08:41:10 PM
Door yes big one  :)
I have seen no ever comment on the black triangle which is in most of the Ceres pictures. What do you make of it? you have noted it i am sure! :) Also what is the black thing in the crater at the bottom of the lighted area just below the C shaped area?

Black Triangle ? ive not seen it or its blurred away in memory.. I did notice one of the pictures had been dressed up to show material variation but I reckon its more to do with advertising the latest starwars movie




merry Christmas Matey , and to one and all here at Pegasus :)

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Dyna

http://www.eso.org/public/news/eso1609/
Unexpected Changes of Bright Spots on Ceres Discovered

QuoteObservations made using the HARPS spectrograph at ESO's La Silla Observatory in Chile have revealed unexpected changes in the bright spots on the dwarf planet Ceres. Although Ceres appears as little more than a point of light from the Earth, very careful study of its light shows not only the changes expected as Ceres rotates, but also that the spots brighten during the day and also show other variations.

QuoteCeres spins every nine hours and calculations showed that the effects due to the motion of the spots towards and away from the Earth caused by this rotation would be very small, of order 20 kilometres per hour. But this motion is big enough to be measurable via the Doppler effect with high-precision instruments such as HARPS.

The team observed Ceres with HARPS for a little over two nights in July and August 2015. "The result was a surprise," adds Antonino Lanza, at the INAF–Catania Astrophysical Observatory and co-author of the study. "We did find the expected changes to the spectrum from the rotation of Ceres, but with considerable other variations from night to night."

QuoteThe team concluded that the observed changes could be due to the presence of volatile substances that evaporate under the action of solar radiation [2]. When the spots inside the Occator crater are on the side illuminated by the Sun they form plumes that reflect sunlight very effectively. These plumes then evaporate quickly, lose reflectivity and produce the observed changes. This effect, however, changes from night to night, giving rise to additional random patterns, on both short and longer timescales.
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zorgon

NASA says:  Odd bright spots on Ceres

NASA shows pictures: Bright spots look like structures :P

NASA says: Oh no  just piles of salt :P

NASA = Need Another Space Agency

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Quote from: zorgon on March 17, 2016, 07:38:23 PM
NASA says:  Odd bright spots on Ceres

NASA shows pictures: Bright spots look like structures :P

NASA says: Oh no  just piles of salt :P

NASA = Need Another Space Agency

im sure there's more fun to be had with their pantomime still :D

maybe when the European fart sniffer, methane detector arrives at Mars .. shed some light on the little methane mystery they've created

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Dyna

The NASA picture is really big but so dark!

i think they spray their whole operation with insulating foam. ???

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/pia20355.jpg
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Littleenki

Quote from: Dyna on March 24, 2016, 06:43:04 PM
new pictures closer.
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/pia20355.jpg
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/figures/PIA20350_fig1.jpg
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA20350.jpg
http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=24&month=03&year=2016


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It looks to me as if someone has been working the inner surface of the crater in the top shot.

So, if we remember the natural "nuclear reactor" in Oklo Gabon from a few years back, could it be a radioactive deposit, which is being used by craft to fuel up along their way through our solar system?

Seems to me it would be a convenient fueling spot, easily accessed by advanced technology above ours, and a radioactive deposit of some sort of element, one which we either are familiar with or not, could explain the brightness as it decays into open space.

I also have thought of the desert glass in Libya, and how specific elemental contents of an impacting body, could create mirror like finishes through high impact force, and extreme heat. It could be like a dichroic coating or mirror where the temperatures allowed for certain transmutation of impact body elements into reflective surfaces.

At any rate, the linear features in the crater above show me either someone has been there, mining, or I am just not familiar with such features on a celestial body as a novice in these areas...can anyone think of how those scrape features got there without external help, such as the stones which move across the lake here on Earth?
I cant....

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Dyna

Quote from: Littleenki on March 25, 2016, 03:45:07 PM

It looks to me as if someone has been working the inner surface of the crater in the top shot.

So, if we remember the natural "nuclear reactor" in Oklo Gabon from a few years back, could it be a radioactive deposit, which is being used by craft to fuel up along their way through our solar system?

Seems to me it would be a convenient fueling spot, easily accessed by advanced technology above ours, and a radioactive deposit of some sort of element, one which we either are familiar with or not, could explain the brightness as it decays into open space.

I also have thought of the desert glass in Libya, and how specific elemental contents of an impacting body, could create mirror like finishes through high impact force, and extreme heat. It could be like a dichroic coating or mirror where the temperatures allowed for certain transmutation of impact body elements into reflective surfaces.

At any rate, the linear features in the crater above show me either someone has been there, mining, or I am just not familiar with such features on a celestial body as a novice in these areas...can anyone think of how those scrape features got there without external help, such as the stones which move across the lake here on Earth?
I cant....
Cheers!
This part has always been interesting to me also at different times when shadows change. it must be something unusual if they still can't ID it at the range they have examined it.

http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/pia20355.jpg
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Littleenki

Dyna, that feature appears to be a walled structure long past destroyed(or so they want us to think) similar to the rings in South Africa or other pre holocene sites we see right here on Earth.

What caught my eye right off was the square feature in the top left..now thats like a observation tower of sorts perhaps? :O

like cattle kralls in Africa and other nations with ancient farming structures, could it have been either a containment site, or storage facility?

odd indeed..
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