Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?

[zorgon]

Zorgon thanks for all the "help" here in rounding up info on the Wal-Mart closures.

Hey glad to see you finally stopped by Welcome to our assylum.  The thing that first caught my attention was that the original source for this latest scare was SORSHA FAAL...  When a story traces back to Sorcha...  you can bet 110% it is a false story

But our team does tend to dig deep and pull up facts on both sides of the issue. Usualy the truth comes out.

Living here in Midland Texas, right down the road from the one closed has caused a lot of suspicion.

Here in Vegas we are seeing a LOT of stores closing especially in certain areas.  Years ago when the economy was booming (going out of control) they opened new stores everywhere. Way to many IMO of the same type to close  together.

Walmart has been getting a really bad press lately what with their hiring of illegal aliens and undercutting other businesses. Seeing Walmart closing does not make me sad

As to the Government using Walmart as a key supplier?  ZOMG!!! If that were true we are truly DOOMED 

Although I have seen many pictures on FB with military personnel at our Wal-Mart, they are fake pictures that someone has photoshopped.

Yes FB has become a cesspool of lies, stupidity and deliberate obfuscation. A true Tower of Babble. People will share any old story never take a second to see if it is true or not  OR the damage they are doing by sharing false news. They don't realize that this makes them as bad and worse then the ones they accuse of lying

Try to inject some truth and real research, they will call you shill and unfriend or block you. How DARE you mess up their pet belief

I drive by there every couple of days and my children drive by daily on their way to and from work.  Jade-Helm is taking place to the east of us in Big Spring Texas, which is only 45 minutes away.  The map showing the underground tunnels overlays us here in Midland. There has been no plumbing work done and the lady that was answering the phone says that they have decided to close permanently! Also Google has taken this Wal-Mart off of its map (we have another one on the south side of town).

I am willing to bet that Walmart is hurting financially and so is McDonald  especially after Russia banned them because they don't sell food It is likely that the hammer fell and they were forced to cut back

So while I don't claim that it is "doomsday" for us here, something is strange for sure!!

On a side note, one of our McDonalds less than a mile from the closed Wal-Mart has also shut down...... Hmmm!

Walmart and McD closing is a BLESSING not doomsday   But consider this  It is Walmart shoppers who eat at NcDonalds

The SCARY part is where will all those really strange Walmart Shoppers go now?

Lol! Maybe later on we will find some stored Lunar tapes!!! 

Wow I did not realize you have been following us that long Reminds me I need to contact Dr X again and get him over here too

[spacemaverick]

Well...one of our Wal-Marts is adding a liquor section in Melbourne and plenty of their trucks coming in down here in Brevard County Florida.  They come in from out of state.  Our county seems to have an abundance of retailers coming in and I suspect that inventory may be shifting to areas that have a robust economy.  Our economy is gradually getting better.  I watch the freight come in....

[zorgon]

Corporations tend to follow the money

A local Mall here near me is upgrading the buildings. They are doing this because business has been bad...

But an upgrade won't fix it...

...because the mall is in an area where more people are going to shoplift at the stores than shop.

[Smilingtree]

Zorgan I am new to the forum but an avid reader and want to catch up!
Some threads I have started reading from the beginning! 

[zorgon]

Well there are a lot of threads on a lot of topics   So have fun...

Feel free to start any if you have questions  A lot of threads are in specific areas and some not everyone has access to, If you have questions feel free to ask

I will be spending less time on FB going forward  It is hard to find many intelligent threads there these days, but the biggest issue for me is the sharing where on;y the OP gets shared and not all the follow up comments  so you end up repeating over and over until its lost anyway

At least here I can find my posts

[thorfourwinds]

17 Different Videos Showing Military Preparations for Obama's "Martial Law" Exercises

[thorfourwinds]

Obama's calls for a private standing army was made at a 2008 appearance in Colorado Springs.

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve
the national security objectives we set," Obama said at the time. "We've
got have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful,
just as strong, just as well-funded."

[zorgon]

Judge Rules: Obama Social Security Card Fraud May Finally Get Answers

It took years for Watergate to unravel fully. The controversy over Barack Hussein Obama and his past, along with fraudulent documents continues to make headlines. Yet, the items needed to actually verify who Obama is continue to be kept from the public eye. Well, that all may be about to change. Attorney Orly Taitz may have just found a chink in the federal government's armor in protecting Barack Obama from scrutiny, following a judge's ruling over her Freedom of Information Act request from the Social Security Administration.

Taitz has claimed that Obama uses the Social Security number of Harry Bounel and has submitted several Freedom of Information Act requests for the information from the Social Security Administration. Each time, she has been met with stonewalling by the Social Security Administration.
However, Judge Ellen Lipton Hollander has ruled to give Taitz "an opportunity to file a second amended complaint and add allegations of SSA not doing a proper search and withholding records."

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/12/judge-rules-obama-social-security-card-fraud-may-finally-get-answers/

[zorgon]

From Taitz's Press Release:

Judge Hollander in Maryland gives Attorney Orly Taitz 21 days to file a second amended complaint and add allegations in regards to an improper withholding by the Social Security Administration of records   of Harry Bounel, whose Social security number is being illegally used by Barack Obama. When Taitz filed the complaint, SSA did not respond at all. After the law suit was filed, SSA responded by fraudulently claiming that the records were not found. Taitz responded that this is a fraudulent assertion, since the records were found before and denied to another petitioner due to privacy concerns, however Social Security has no right to claim privacy as according to their own 120 year rule they have a duty to release the records. The judge stated that the plaintiff Taitz might be correct, however at this time she cannot rule in her favor as her original complaint was filed before SSA responded, so the judge gave Taitz an opportunity to refile a second amended complaint and add new allegations, stating the SSA responded but improperly hidden the records . This is a great development. This all but assures that the judge will order the SSA to release the SS-5, Social Security application of resident of CT, Harrison (Harry) Bounel, whose CT SSN 042-68-4425 was stolen by Obama and used in Obama's 2009 tax returns, which initially were posted on WhiteHouse.gov without proper redaction, without flattening of the file. Taitz will be very careful not to be Breitbarted or Fuddied in the next 21 days.

Additionally, there is an increased tampering with the web site of Orly Taitz and with her ability to send mass -emails. It seems her private server is somehow affected and Taitz is unable to send mass e-mails on two different programs.

It's interesting that Taitz points out that she will be "careful not to be Breitbarted or Fuddied," indicating that she believes that both Andrew Breitbart and Andrew Breitbart and Loretta Fuddy were targeted by Obama for assassination." Breitbart died on the very day that he said he would begin vetting Obama for the 2012 elections, which raised suspicions. Fuddy, best remembered as being instrumental in issuing the Hawaii long-form birth certificate, was the only person to die aboard a small plane that crashed off the coast of Hawaii last week. Already, there are questions surrounding the narrative of her death.

Taitz alleged that Mr. Bounel was born in 1890, and therefore, under the "'120 Year Rule' implemented by the SSA in 2010," pertaining to "'extremely aged individuals,'" Bounel's "Social Security applications have to be released under FOIA without proof of [his] death . . . ."

[spacemaverick]

Very interesting indeed.  Let's see if the Social Security Administration leadership tries to stonewall this action by a judge. 

[thorfourwinds]

Published on May 5, 2015
The U.S. government is on the verge of passing a surveillance bill that some are calling the Patriot Act 2.0.

The Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act, aka CISA, will double down on all the bulk data the government has already been collecting on you. Plus now it'll allow businesses to share your personal info with the government and with each other – if they deem what you're doing a threat. But we all know that's open to interpretation.

[thorfourwinds]

Cities and Local Governments Paving the Way for Federal Totalitarian Dictatorship: "Another Back-door Method to Gain Control"

8 May 2015

Number 1:  An Ordinance of the City of Kalispell, Montana was recently passed.  This requires all pawn and second hand businesses to send information of anyone who sells an item above $50.00 (yes, you see it...fifty dollars!) to an online database.

Ready for the kicker?  The database is called LeadsOnline.com, and law enforcement has access to this information on private citizens at all times, without probable cause.  The "intended purpose" (i.e. – the lie): to protect the public.  I am listing some quotes from the ordinance, and (to summarize their contents) I am numbering them as such:

   1.   An affected business is one that:
"...engages in the purchase, sale, trade, barter, recycling or exchange of secondhand goods, wares or merchandise; or any person who keeps any store, shop, room or place where secondhand goods, wares or merchandise of any kind or description, are bought, sold, traded, bartered, recycled or exchanged is defined as a secondhand dealer."

   2.   Information submitted to the database:
"The customer's name and date of birth and documentation..." and also "The current street address, city, state and zip code of the customer's residence."

   3.   "Business" compliance requirements:
"Every pawnbroker and secondhand dealer shall own, maintain and operate a computer system with Internet access.  Every pawnbroker or secondhand dealer shall electronically file all records identified in Section 20-3 directly to an Internet subscription service designated as an agent of the police department as prescribed by the Chief of Police.  The pawnbroker or secondhand dealer shall enter and upload such information from its records by no later than 5:00 PM on Friday of each week."
[...]

Item #1:  This effectively forces compliance on pawnshops, thrift stores, mom and pop secondhand furniture and house ware stores, gun shows, farmers' markets.  The phrase, "bought, sold, traded, bartered, recycled or exchanged" just means transfer in any way.  City ad valorem and taxes increase, but the biggies?

1) This is the backdoor method to outlaw private sales of firearms, and 2) Maintain an active database accessible to law enforcement with the name, birthdate, and address of someone who purchases a firearm (of course with the firearm information as well).

[thorfourwinds]

Published on May 8, 2015
GLOBAL | The world's armies are preparing for an armageddon scale war.

Not like anything we've ever seen in global history. Every nation of significance is drilling their troops for battle. The drills are the largest scale ever conducted by those militaries.

In the United States, the Jade Helm 15 exercise is poised to break all known records as Special Forces deploy to occupy 10 American States.

In Europe, NATO is conducting the largest ever military drills in world history. Tens of thousands of troops are preparing for war.

For the first time, in the Mediterranean Sea Chinese and Russian Naval vessels are conducting live fire war games.

Earthquakes are rocking remote corners of the world leaving behind thousands of casualties.

The earthquake in Nepal was so devastating that the highest mountain in the world, Mount Everest, shrunk by 1 inch.

In The Midwestern United States, from Missouri to Michigan, rare quakes rock cities and rural areas signaling the New Madrid Fault Line is under great stress.

Christians are being beheaded as enemies of Christ broadcast their murders for the whole world to see. These are the beginnings of sorrows.

Mark 13:8

And he causeth all... to receive a mark in their right hand: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark... Revelation 13:16-17

[Glaucon]

Christians are being beheaded as enemies of Christ broadcast their murders for the whole world to see.??These are the beginnings of sorrows.[/color]

Muslims are the ones getting killed.

Jade Helm is an exercise. What in particular are you, personally, concerned with?

[zorgon]

I live in Las Vegas...

It is peaceful here.  I do not see any storm troopers in the streets  in fact the only cops I have seen in the past few months are doing event security.

I went to a fantastic show where they were all wearing masks and helms

Perhaps Las Vegas is on another planet... I do not see the Marshall Law enforces preping anything

I don't see any FEMA camps  but I do know several people who got serious finaicial help from FEMA after a disaster  (though I am told that now if they help you need to pay it back when you can  - budget must be tight)

I guess I am just an