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Jade Helm-WalMart-DHS: Does this foretell of Martial Law and FEMA Camps?

Started by thorfourwinds, April 16, 2015, 07:32:20 PM

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micjer

Conspiracy Nut: Someone who thinks EVERYTHING is a conspiracy, whether there is reason to believe so or not

Alternative Researcher: One who take time to dig deep into the Conspiracy theory and present the facts to be examined by the people.


Have to admit I was more of a CN for a while, but now I consider myself an AR.

I like to look at all of the evidence rather than jumping to conclusions.  Thanks to Space Otter in helping me in the right direction.  LOL.

Something sure isn't right in Sandy Hook.  Poor acting for example.

Weird that the Walmarts are closing.  Not convinced why yet.
The only people in the world, it seems, who believe in conspiracy theory, are those of us that have studied it.    Pat Shannon

spacemaverick

Quote from: RUSSO on May 12, 2015, 11:06:17 AM
By definition, I think you are.  :)

Ps. Did you ever hear about the movie Relatos Selvagens(wild tales)?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3011894/

Check the first story about the plane crash(the whole movie is a masterpiece so it will worth your time) . Creepy!  :o

I will check it out!
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spacemaverick

Well, let's look at this and see the various possibilities.

A.  Internal threat from ISIS...this will give the different services the opportunity to train with one another in areas that seem to be more of a threat to the United States in general.  Our Southern border is wide open thanks to Obama and other liberals and even some conservative politicians.  When in the service in California we would have a whole division on the ground involved in training...just about 23,000 or so troops on the ground but it was not out in the civilian environment.  When I was in Europe (Germany specifically) we would have Reforger which was Europe wide and involved many nations and would be out in the civilian areas most all the time.  So in short Jade Helm could be training for a possible threat from ISIS inside our borders and not martial law training.  But you know that training would still be good for a martial law scenario.

B.  Possible that this is martial law training under the guise of something else (call it what you will) because as a military strategist and/or tactician you do not reveal your intent or tactics.  Sun Tzu in the Art of War spoke of deception as the primary tool of war where you decive the other side (whoever the other side may be) and you may not have to fight at all because you have brought fear to the enemy (whoever the enemy might be).

Interjection here:  There are executive orders that can be enacted during emergencies and even perceived emergencies...each state as well as the US Government have them and they may be enacted when needed.  Having participated in law enforcement functions during the 4 hurricanes in Florida in 2004 and the Florida Wildfires in 1998 (I believe that was the year)....gas from fuel stations was commandeered as well as some food stuffs and water.  FEMA re-imbursed....Same thing during the Florida Wildfires...we had to sign in with FEMA at our command posts here in our county.  Food stuffs...water...gas...various other items came in from different retail sources and sometimes their parking lots were used as staging areas.

I have no idea what's going on with the Wal-Marts but the economy stinks here in certain areas and is booming in others areas of our economy here in our county.  Stores clsoing because they are not making enough so since the bottom line is why corporations exist may be the reason.  The bottom line comes before the people in many cases.  This is all my view anyway.

C.  It does not really hurt anyone if the governors of various states keep their own forces and sources watching the Federal Government...vigilance on their part is good no matter what their motivation might be...good for us...we should be vigilant for both state and Federal!
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Ellirium113

ISIS could simply hire private mercenary army to do it's bidding in the US and never even be in the country. Are they not for hire in the US? Is there regulations to prevent non government sinister use?  :P

spacemaverick

Quote from: Ellirium113 on May 12, 2015, 11:16:24 PM
ISIS could simply hire private mercenary army to do it's bidding in the US and never even be in the country. Are they not for hire in the US? Is there regulations to prevent non government sinister use?  :P

They don't even have to hire anyone...they look like they have enough sympathizers in young people and enough converts from the prisons to do their bidding.  Small groups of recruiters and some small groups of leaders is all they need.
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Glaucon

Quote from: thorfourwinds on April 17, 2015, 01:15:31 AM
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"The nature of warfare is always changing and U.S. Army Special Operations Command's mission is to make certain the Army's various Special Operations Forces are trained, equipped and organized to successfully conduct worldwide special operations in support of our nation's interests," Army Lt. Col. Mark Lastoria, a command spokesman, said in an e-mail.

"Training exercise Jade Helm is going to assist our Special Operations Soldiers and leadership in refining the skills needed against an ever changing foreign threat."
Bingo.Often times, the simplest explanation is the hardest to discern.

Let me make it clear, however, that it is likely to effect a very small number of citizens. The citizens who are running around like headless chickens blabbering about conspiracies are the ones most likely to "CONSPIRE" to attain some kind of political
Objective.
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"..that the people being ignorant, and always discontented, to lay the foundation of government in the unsteady opinion and uncertain humour of the people, is to expose it to certain ruin" -Locke

petrus4

Quote from: Ellirium113 on May 12, 2015, 11:16:24 PM
ISIS could simply hire private mercenary army to do it's bidding in the US and never even be in the country. Are they not for hire in the US? Is there regulations to prevent non government sinister use?  :P

ISIS are US-intelligence based, as far as I am concerned.  Al-Baghdadi is the current Goldstein/raid boss.  Apart from anything else, this is the main reason why my eyes glaze over whenever anyone puts the television news on where I'm living.  It's all a complete load of crap designed to keep the public in a permanently apocalyptic emotional state; and I wish I knew why so few people seem to be aware of that.

Try watching the news; any minute of any hour of any day.  The moment I put it on, I start to feel my energy sink like a rock, which is exactly what they want.  It is only about two things; either who has been killed by whom, or Western governments desperately trying to convince everyone that they still matter, and that we should remotely care about them.

They want two things; for you to remain in a permanent condition of near-suicidal depression and mindless terror, and for you to continually bow down and worship both politicians, and the brainwashed canine/human hybrids that compose the police and military.  The rest of you can make your own decisions, but I will do neither.
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spacemaverick

Quote from: petrus4 on May 14, 2015, 07:34:38 AM
ISIS are US-intelligence based, as far as I am concerned.  Al-Baghdadi is the current Goldstein/raid boss.  Apart from anything else, this is the main reason why my eyes glaze over whenever anyone puts the television news on where I'm living.  It's all a complete load of crap designed to keep the public in a permanently apocalyptic emotional state; and I wish I knew why so few people seem to be aware of that.

Try watching the news; any minute of any hour of any day.  The moment I put it on, I start to feel my energy sink like a rock, which is exactly what they want.  It is only about two things; either who has been killed by whom, or Western governments desperately trying to convince everyone that they still matter, and that we should remotely care about them.

They want two things; for you to remain in a permanent condition of near-suicidal depression and mindless terror, and for you to continually bow down and worship both politicians, and the brainwashed canine/human hybrids that compose the police and military.  The rest of you can make your own decisions, but I will do neither.

That is what terrorism is designed to do...keeps you in a state of hyper-vigilance...gloom and doom...etc...

The only way I conduct my alternative research is I have to intersperse some light entertainment and good stuff people do in this world...otherwise it will drag you down.  Unfortunately when you listen to all this negativity you just say I don't want to hear it anymore...let the powers that be deal with it.  Petrus is right!  In all my research of gloom and doom scenarios I was getting down but alas...I periodically started dipping into what people do good and some entertainment and it helps carry me on.  Human nature is such that if you put garbage in...you will get garbage out.  Balance my dear friends...balance and try to keep out the garbage.
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zorgon

Quote from: spacemaverick on May 16, 2015, 06:46:40 PM
That is what terrorism is designed to do...keeps you in a state of hyper-vigilance...gloom and doom...etc...

The only way I conduct my alternative research is I have to intersperse some light entertainment and good stuff people do in this world...otherwise it will drag you down. 

Agreed :P  I find that I see NO Gloom and Doom in my Faerie Land.  Many say it is a mere fantasy but I see no Chemtrails, no FEMA camps, no Storm Troopers in my Realm...

So why is that?  Is it because they are not there? or because I have blinders on?  Well does it matter?  If THEY come I have my swords, my machine guns and my support group, all big guys at ease with swinging a sword :D

In the meantime yesterday I posted a picture of a snow storm with rainbow on Facebook...(and here)  It was a dark sky with the sun hitting the sheets of snow falling. Turned to rain but that gave the rainbow...

Now within two replies on FB those sheets of snow were chemtrail sparys and we were being poisoned LOL 

NO they were snow clouds  See em all the time skiing People need to get out more and see what real weather looks like.

No NOT chemtrail fallout :P SNOW  in MAY in VEGAS   Its 74 F today and blue sky with fluffy white clouds  Farmers Almanac says we will be cool into June WOO HOO



So yeah I am living in my Fantasy Realm  So what?  No gloom and doom here  Anyone want to join me? I want to rebuild the Guild





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Published on Apr 13, 2015
The daring driver Lucas Jewell was pulled over by a tank while cruising the mean streets of Gainesville, Florida. He says he flipped off the tank, but was he getting "road head" as accused?

Watch the video to find out!

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It's not a tank it's an Lenco BearCat, and it has absolutely no business being used on American streets to tyrannize American people.

If you don't follow orders exactly how the bully wants he reserves the right to beat you up, and arrest you for resisting arrest.

Arrested for resisting arrest?

LMAO and people allow that in their society?

It's the same terrorist nonsense like "I saw you swerve", I smell something", "I didn't see you properly signal", blah blah blah its all nonsense to pull people over so they can flaunt their imaginary authority and generate revenue for the state.
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ArMaP

Quote from: thorfourwinds on May 17, 2015, 05:53:42 PM
Watch the video to find out!
I watched enough to see that's not a tank. :)

QuoteIt's not a tank it's an Lenco BearCat, and it has absolutely no business being used on American streets to tyrannize American people.
Why, do you think there are better vehicles to tyrannize American people? :)

QuoteIf you don't follow orders exactly how the bully wants he reserves the right to beat you up, and arrest you for resisting arrest.

Arrested for resisting arrest?
Was he arrested? ???

thorfourwinds

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One might remember that Jade Helm encompasses a "dissident extraction drill" involving members of Special Forces that are practicing, quote, "infiltration techniques", end quote, and also a martial law drill that has the obvious possibility of baiting the various militia groups with a false flag and which would a pretext for martial law.

That would be 'Game On,' as this is something that has been long-prepared for by those very militia groups previously mentioned.




If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Why do the American militaries special forces and domestic intelligence/security agencies even need to conduct such an exercise, as the United States (people/society/transportation/etc.) is so unique that the only information that could possibly be gained is in how to subjugate/suppress our own citizens?




If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

the 1.5 Billion rounds of hollow point ammunition purchased with your tax dollars by DHS, NOAA (46,000 rounds), Social Security Administration (174,000 rounds), etc. - ammunition which is not ever permissible in warfare under the Geneva Conventions, but evidently the bullet of choice for quelling dissenters in Obama's Amerika.

If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Why, specifically, the Social Security Administration needs hollow point ammo?





If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

One might ask about the 'rumored' ISIS base camp in Mexico a scant 8 miles from El Paso, Texas.


If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Name logical reasons behind a sudden plumbing problem at 5 locations, in different states, at the same time, extending 6 months, when the stores have been build 5-20 years apart, and with zero permits filed.

I would love to hear those reasons.

If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:





If One was a conspiracy theorist, One might Question:

Is that really a .50 cal mount in the bed of the DHS pickup?



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