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Started by astr0144, July 04, 2015, 02:55:58 PM

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Gigas

Man I just don't get whats happening.

I shut cable off 3 years ago. I watch regular tv SOME TIMES. I programmed the stations in by the TV finding the stations last year. Now, i had channel 32 - 1 station, channel 26 - 2 stations and channel 2 had - 2 stations but a third station went off the air.

My tv now has 3 channel 32 stations and 3 channel 26 stations. So it goes like this order, 32 - 1, 32 - 2, 32 - 3 and 26 - 1, 26 - 2, 26 - 3. I have no freaken idea how my smart tv got 2 extra stations on channel 32 and 1 extra station on 26. I did not program the tv for any more stations. How the frick did those extra channels get programmed in.

One channel 32 - 2 is called escape tv and the other channel 32 - 3 is called grit tv. The extra channel 26 - 3 is called laff tv. Something is wrong with the matrix and I get to witness it.
Everyone loves me, till they're sick of me

Gigas

Quote from: zorgon on August 14, 2015, 02:06:54 AM
Welcome to EARTHSHIP ARK

Seems someone found these old episodes of Star Lost. Meet NOAH and the new crew of the Ark. The first episode really touches on all our theories and origins of religion

The Sumerians believed in their Cosmology that the Earth was a flat disk with a domed tin roof... The story of NOAH came from the Sumerians...

Meet Captain NOAH   see the Ark in all it's GLORY





I recommend everyone watch this. It is an old Canadian series... it was a bit hokey in the acting but the story is awesome. And the beginning episode fits right into this discussion

THIS is the ARK



THIS is REVELATION :D


That almost is along the line of the 1972 silent running with bruce dern. A ship is in space with geo domes but in this ship, they raise plant life because earths plant life has all died out. This ship and all it's plant life must be destroyed by the bad guys of earth.

For a tv series that appears to be from the 70s, I don't remember it. The concept of life in the stars on a ship with people being herded by those who know the situation and will keep the secret at any cost, is what's to come in more advanced big/little screen.

It would seem movies and the TV tell us bits and pieces of reality. All we have to do is focus on the message and not the entertainment. It feels like a dream.
Everyone loves me, till they're sick of me

zorgon

Quote from: Gigas on August 14, 2015, 08:45:20 PM
It would seem movies and the TV tell us bits and pieces of reality. All we have to do is focus on the message and not the entertainment. It feels like a dream.

Yes exactly...

The question is  is it by intent?... or simply that the writers are tuning into the Hall of Records for inspiration?

Looking at the TV show Stargate SG1 (the show that got me into ATS and this line of research) I would say it is by INTENT

That show has FOUR government agencies involved, DoD, Air Force, US NAVY and US Space Command.

Tom Bedlam told me to pay close attention to the background on the sub used in Stargate Continuum as they showed real stuff (The sub, crew and commander used in the movie used the real people, using their real names)

I agree focus on the content  not the overlaid story.

In Stargate it is best to watch it through once and get the entertainment out of the way... let your subconscious mind catch the hidden truths, then watch it again taking note on the information

There was one Canadian film about UFO's coming from a Pyramid in the Bermuda Triangle... forget the name but I will find it

Dyna

#33
QuoteSo what is the purpose of the survey? It is about TIME. Specifically, a change in the past which had appeared to cause a change in the present.

Well I don't know what or how it is done but I had a very big event take place.

In the 90's probably around 92-93 my daughter called me I lived 33 mins away, first thing that is important is that my daughter is a very unimaginative woman who has no interest in science or science fiction her reading has always been non-fiction and biography types of things she is an athlete and that is her only passion.

So this call should have stunned me, she said "MOM! DID YOU SEE THE UFO"?   I replied What UFO...now oddly I did not feel excited and that is simply NOT me.

She said "IT COVERED THE WHOLE SKY! EVERYONE SAW IT, WE ALL RAN OUTSIDE! (this included my daughter, her husband his brother and her Mother and father-in laws 5 people.)

I vaguely remember her saying it blocked out the whole sun, this was a day time thing. Strangely I do not remember anything else and not asking any questions or anything. The following week I did look at the news paper expecting it there but it never appeared.

OK so I forget the whole thing, then one day just after my daughter son was born in July 2000 BANG I suddenly remember this whole episode and can't figure why I didn't ask any questions and how I could forget!

So I went to her town and took her to lunch afraid to broach the subject as she finds UFO's silly and she is not easy to talk to. Finally I just asked her, do you remember when you called me and asked if I saw the UFO? You said it covered the whole sky?

Her expression went blank, looking strange and far away, she said in a slow voice looking off in space like a sleep walker,  "I remember something about a UFO." That was it no more.

She agreed to ask the others that was there that day if they remembered, she waited until she was alone with each and asked, and later told be, "it was strange, they each look strange and only said "I kind of remember something about a UFO".She could not ask the Father because of a divorce but the others all said the same.

So I went searching, this was in Chico Ca not a small town! I found this
http://www.ufosightingreports.com/year/1993/state/CA/feb-1993-ufo-sighting-chico-13000300
http://thecid.com/ufo/uf14/uf7/147119.htm

The most interesting report which I saved with these and it is no longer in my folder, was about a single male driving  and at the time I read it years ago I had concluded he was in the Feather River Canyon beyond Chico, he said he had stopped when he was tired and pulled in where there was a steep valley (I had concluded this was probably Dark Canyon. He said he walked to the edge and looking down and the  valley was filled with a giant ship, in description of size it had room on top for some number I believe it was like 28 semi trucks to sit on top.

Now Dark canyon is off a turn from the main highway and having been there many times we never ran across any people. There is a train track through it, it has an mystery side tunnel that is fenced off and locked that I had always wished to explore. (probably just some relic of the railroad building days) The whole place is rather creepy and dark even in the day after the sun is not high.

I am searching again for this report but so far no luck.

Found an interesting one
QuoteOccurred : 11/18/2001 03:00 (Entered as : 11/18 /01 3:00)
Reported: 11/26/2001 9:39:31 AM 09:39
Posted: 3/11/2003
Location: Chico, CA
Shape: Triangle
Duration:1 min
Huge slow flying triangular object blocking out sky during meteor shower on california's I-5 outside chico.

I stopped to watch meteor shower at a rest stop on I-5 just outside of chico california. When I went between two big trucks to block out some bothersome lights I saw out of the corner of my eye what looked at first like several meteors traveling together. When I looked in that direction I did not see any meteors. As I started to look in another direction I noticed something moving across the sky blocking out the stars. That was how I determined the shape. It was triangular, very large, moving slowly in an easterly direction. There were no lights and no noise. It was hard to judge the size of the object but I estimate that if it was flying low (as in 2 or 3 thousand feet it would have been the size of at least a football field. It disappeared behind the truck trailer and I was unable to find it again when I moved around to the other side of the truck.
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxlca.html
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

Eighthman

I have thought about this topic a lot over the past year. In particular, I marvel from, day to day, about my living in an apparent "Close But Never Over The Line" World.

This relates to a list I keep watching: UFO's, ET life, Bigfoot, Free Energy, Abductions, and Politics.

UFO's dance in the skies but never so obviously that they are globally undeniable. Bigfoot leaves prints and howls across decades but never a dead body. Dr. Mack exposes abductions but gets killed by a drunk driver. Free energy types die conveniently from random murder, heart attacks or fall over dead after announcing their poisoning. 

Did Roswell really happen? You read both sides and wonder if it was somehow real and not real.

And politics often looks bizarre or imaginary but the Center always holds. I read alternative news everyday and observe how we are ceaselessly teased that Big Time Change/Doom is here but it never arrives.

Sinny

Quote from: Dyna on August 15, 2015, 09:39:41 PM
Well I don't know what or how it is done but I had a very big event take place.

In the 90's probably around 92-93 my daughter called me I lived 33 mins away, first thing that is important is that my daughter is a very unimaginative woman who has no interest in science or science fiction her reading has always been non-fiction and biography types of things she is an athlete and that is her only passion.

So this call should have stunned me, she said "MOM! DID YOU SEE THE UFO"?   I replied What UFO...now oddly I did not feel excited and that is simply NOT me.

She said "IT COVERED THE WHOLE SKY! EVERYONE SAW IT, WE ALL RAN OUTSIDE! (this included my daughter, her husband his brother and her Mother and father-in laws 5 people.)

I vaguely remember her saying it blocked out the whole sun, this was a day time thing. Strangely I do not remember anything else and not asking any questions or anything. The following week I did look at the news paper expecting it there but it never appeared.

OK so I forget the whole thing, then one day just after my daughter son was born in July 2000 BANG I suddenly remember this whole episode and can't figure why I didn't ask any questions and how I could forget!

So I went to her town and took her to lunch afraid to broach the subject as she finds UFO's silly and she is not easy to talk to. Finally I just asked her, do you remember when you called me and asked if I saw the UFO? You said it covered the whole sky?

Her expression went blank, looking strange and far away, she said in a slow voice looking off in space like a sleep walker,  "I remember something about a UFO." That was it no more.

She agreed to ask the others that was there that day if they remembered, she waited until she was alone with each and asked, and later told be, "it was strange, they each look strange and only said "I kind of remember something about a UFO".She could not ask the Father because of a divorce but the others all said the same.

So I went searching, this was in Chico Ca not a small town! I found this

http://www.ufosightingreports.com/year/1993/state/CA/feb-1993-ufo-sighting-chico-13000300
http://thecid.com/ufo/uf14/uf7/147119.htm

The most interesting report which I saved with these and it is no longer in my folder, was about a single male driving  and at the time I read it years ago I had concluded he was in the Feather River Canyon beyond Chico, he said he had stopped when he was tired and pulled in where there was a steep valley (I had concluded this was probably Dark Canyon. He said he walked to the edge and looking down and the  valley was filled with a giant ship, in description of size it had room on top for some number I believe it was like 28 semi trucks to sit on top.

Now Dark canyon is off a turn from the main highway and having been there many times we never ran across any people. There is a train track through it, it has an mystery side tunnel that is fenced off and locked that I had always wished to explore. (probably just some relic of the railroad building days) The whole place is rather creepy and dark even in the day after the sun is not high.

I am searching again for this report but so far no luck.

Found an interesting onehttp://www.nuforc.org/webreports/ndxlca.html

Reminds me of the handful if sightings that ive had, only for them to be erased from my memory completely and then have been re-remembered upon a trigger.

Odd.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

zorgon

#36
One thing to consider...

IF a UFO is an Alien or Manmade space craft with some sort of intensive gravity field (not Anti Gravity :P That could never power a spacecraft)

Then it would be expected to have strange effects in the local space time.

People have reported time loss and memory issues surrounding contact with these craft

It is known by our scientists that a powerful gravity field can distort time and space... in fact for a craft to achieve FTL or WARP drive this would have to be the case

So lost time and memory loss during an event to me indicate that the story is most likely worthy of my attention

Incidentally this same gravity field would also explain why no one can get a clear photo of an operating UFO..

The field or warp bubble would distort light around the craft.. and energy leakage would account for the glowing at night





This same force field bubble would also eliminate inertia inside the bubble, allowing for high speed turns and accelerations


Dyna

QuotePeople have reported time loss and memory issues surrounding contact with these craft

For my part the oddities include that I was reached by phone a 30 minute drive away. I behaved abnormal instantly in not asking (or cannot remember asking) a single question although I do remember looking for any indication in the following days newspaper and finding none.

So I forgot just like the 5 witnesses forgot and I was only on the phone after the object I assume, left. I forgot for YEARS something that is of intense interest to me.I really don't know how such a thing can be explained.
When the debate is lost,
slander becomes the tool of the loser.
Socrates

zorgon

Once Upon a Time.....

Back in Canada... I started collecting rocks and minerals. We had a Cottage in the Bancroft region which is in what locals call God's dumping ground because the are has small pockets of just about any mineral you can think of in weird occurrences, like a pile of left overs just dumped there.

By 14 I went to my first Gem and Mineral show as a helper for a Croatian Gem Cutter (friend of a friend of the family)  Just selling the few specimens I had collected I made $900.00  Not bad for a kid back then :D

Since that time I became an expert on rocks and minerals, took gemology courses and geology classes and learned lapidary..

I have shelves of books on rocks and minerals from filed guide that easily identify them and where to find them, to mineral data books to gem cutting 'bibles'

Travelling to many gem and mineral shows I talked regularly to all levels of people experts in the field...


Not ONCE in all those year, all those books or all those talks were "stones that ring like a bell' EVER mentioned...

Then this morning on Facebook I saw THIS  VIDEO (need to find the youtube version yet)

WTF?

Okay I know crystals can 'ring' if they are the right shape (naturally tuned) like a crystal class or certain cave crystals... But never in all my years has anyone mentioned these rocks.

Now looking at the one in the video it looks like metal edges  almost looks welded...  and that 'ring' sounds like the 'rock' is hollow, so I figured perhaps this is a fake (so so many comments)  or a meteorite

So I did some searching and found that there are many such rocks around the world...

So right away Wikipedia pops up

Ringing Rocks - LITHOPHONES

Ringing rocks are rocks that have the property of resonating like a bell when struck, such as the Musical Stones of Skiddaw in the English Lake District as well as the stones in Ringing Rocks Park, in Upper Black Eddy, Bucks County, Pennsylvania USA, the Ringing Rocks of Kiandra, near Cooma, NSW and also the Bell Rock Range of Western Australia. Ringing rocks are also known as sonorous rocks or lithophonic rocks, as used in idiophonic musical instruments called lithophones.




1983 aerial photograph of the Ringing Rocks Pluton, Jefferson County Montana

List of sites
Ringing Rocks Park - Upper Black Eddy, Pennsylvania, United States
Ringing Rocks Park - Lower Pottsgrove Township, Pennsylvania, United States
Bell Rock Range - Western Australia, Australia
Musical Stones of Skiddaw - Cumbria, England
Ringing Rocks Point of Interest - Ringing Rocks, Montana, United States
The Hill of the Bells (Cerro de las Campanas) - Querétaro, Mexico
The Ringing Stone - Tiree, Scotland








https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=94&v=PzQU0PaI0mc


So.... Wiki Article appeared 2010

Wiki article also says:
Despite the broad public interest in the ringing ability of the ringing rocks there has not been any actual scientific studies to identify the source of the phenomenon.







So how did I get into THIS MATRIX CHANNEL where the rocks sing?  Perhaps this is why the "Moon rang like a bell"?

I don't know if anyone else is in the same boat, but I find it extremely odd that there was never a mention of these unusual "Ringing Rocks" all those years

space otter

#39

ahh Z.. ringing rocks state park is on my list along with hawk mt  http://www.hawkmountain.org/
on the eastern part of pa.

some things for ya...






Stone Xylophone by Michael Tellinger
Published on Nov 2, 2013
Michael Tellinger gives a emonsttration how the stones from the ruins ring like bells, by constructing a quick and simple stone xylophone.




........................................


http://www.skygaze.com/content/strange/RingingRocks.shtml

Strange & Unexplained - Ringing Rocks


[- Amazingly Talented Rocks -]
Southeastern Pennsylvania is dotted with sites where rocks ring when struck by a hammer. These include the Stony Garden (Haycock, Bucks County), the Devil's Race Course (Franklin County), and others in the South Mountain region and at Pottstown. By far the most famous site, and the most studied, is in Upper Black Eddy in Bucks County. It is located a mile west of the Delaware River near the New Jersey state line.

Set in a forested area, the Ringing Rocks appear in a field which has no vegetation except lichens. Ten feet thick and seven acres around, the rocks are composed of diabase, in other words part of the earth's basic crustal structure. There is nothing unusual about them except that when struck hard, they ring. In June 1890 Dr. J. J. Ott, backed by a brass band, played a few selections on the rocks for an appreciative Buckwarnpurn Historical Society gathering. Ott, in short, had learned what other investigators have since confirmed: that the rocks don't have to be in their natural location to ring. They do not even have to be intact.

Curiously, though made up of the same materials, not all of the Ringing Rocks ring --only about 30 percent of them, according to those who have experimented with them.

Though this is undoubtedly a natural phenomenon, it is an odd one for which no fully satisfactory explanation has ever been proposed. In 1965 geologist Richard Faas of Lafayette College, Easton, Pennsylvania, conducted laboratory experiments using sensitive equipment. He learned that when he struck a ringing rock, a series of subaudible frequencies were produced, and these added up to a tone that could be heard by the human ear. He could not, however, determine a specific physical cause.

Some writers have made remarkable almost occult ---claims for the ringing rocks, asserting that something about the rock field spooks animals, even insects, which make a point of keeping their distance. There is nothing especially mysterious about this, according to investigator Michael A. Frizzell, since the area is barren, open, and hotter than the surrounding forest during the summer, thus generally inhospitable to living creatures.

More interesting is a claim made by the late Ivan T. Sanderson, though since then there has been no published replication: - There are some larger rocks which, when hit appropriately, give rise to a whole scale; ... two different ringers when knocked together while suspended on wires produce (invariably, it seems) but one tone, however many different combinations are used."

Ringing rocks have been noted all over the world. Curiously, the kinds of rock possessing such talents vary. The absence of clear patterns in the creation of such odd geological phenomena continues to frustrate theorists.

...................................

http://www.hotspotsz.com/printout12972.html
Ringing Rocks of Pennsylvania
Date: Tuesday, July 27 @ 04:39:07 CDT
Topic: Miscellaneous


In Upper Black Eddy, Pennsylvania lies a field of boulders that just won't keep quiet. Known as Ringing Rocks Park, this jumble of enigmatic stones has perplexed researches for decades because of the melodious tones the rocks produce when struck with a hammer or any solid instrument. Rocks that ring while fun and intriguing are not by themselves that anomalous. The musical qualities of certain types of stone have been recognized for thousands of years. For instance, the Egyptians used large slabs of basalt to produce a sort of giant xylophone.1 However, this particular field exhibits a number of unusual qualities that when taken together add up toa first class mystery.

Hammer in hand, I walked along the dirt path towards the mysterious rubble. All of a sudden, the forest parted and a seven-acre expanse of jumbled boulders spread out before me. The first thing even a casual visitor to the area will notice is the clear distinction between the dense forest and the expanse of rocks that is completely devoid of any meaningful foliage. In the 1960's investigator Ivan T. Sanderson spent considerable time researching the many mysteries posed by this site. Upon reaching the field of boulders Sanderson observed, "The woods stop abruptly all around it just as they do around a lake. You can have one foot on a carpet of greenery, the other on the first bare rock. It's uncanny, and it'struly eerie." The delineation between the ringing rocks and the lush forest is striking, but I didn't find it to be quite as abrupt as Sanderson claimed. The forest and its accompanying soil blend into the outer edges of the rock field over a space of several feet. Glancing down from the edge of the dirt path, I noticed several ringing and non-ringing stones, embedded in a thin layer of soil and joined by some small plants just taking root. But within the vast majority of the rock field, there is no soil to be found whatsoever. Investigators have searched unsuccessfully down through 10 feet of rocks, all the way to the bare rock table the stones lie upon, without finding any meaningful soil. The lack of dirt is truly perplexing and has. ...
left geologists scratching their heads for decades. This area of Pennsylvania is composed of a mixture of rich topsoil and variously sized diabase stones. The field of rocks has a similar composition but without a trace of soil.

A popular explanation for the lack of dirt is that the rock pile is cleansed during rainstorms and thus the soil never gets a chance to take hold. But if rains are responsible for washing the dirt away, why is soil not also washed into the field? And how to explain the fact that there is abundant loam mixed with the many boulders found amongst the trees just outside the main field?

Dr. E. T. Wherry from the Academy of Natural Sciences in Philadelphia studied the origin of the site and concluded that it was formed about 12,000 years ago when an area of exposed bedrock was shattered due to glacial climatic conditions.1 Why then in all this time has the surrounding forest not gradually encroached on the perimeter of the field and slowly reclaimed it?

Of course without dirt, it's hard to cultivate any meaningful life. About the lack of vegetation and animals, I quote Sanderson again, "This area is absolutely devoid of all life except for a few lichens that cling to the under, shaded side of some of the boulders, down near the bottom. I've spent days poking about in this weird rockfield, but I have never seen so much as a bird in or on it; and I have not been able to find so much as a single insect more than about twenty feet into it at any point."

Again, I believe Sanderson overstates the barrenness of the landscape. Climbing through the field, I noticed a bee, a moth and several different one-inch black spiders well beyond the twenty-foot boundary Sanderson prescribes. I also found examples of lichens as well as moss growing.

From 1978 to 1983 Michael Frizzell and other members of a Baltimore-based research group known as the Enigma Project conducted their own investigations at Ringing Rocks Park. In addition to the black spiders, they were able to document several instances of snakes slithering through the boulder field. However, throughout their stay, they never saw so much as one bird either within the field or above it.2 My own visit further reinforced these claims but I must admit that I saw and heard absolutely no birds both within the clearing and in the surrounding forest as well.

Invariably the most memorable aspect a visit to the area is the singing stones themselves and there are plenty of mysteries surrounding the sonic aspects of their behavior. Most startling is the fact that not all of the rocks found within the field produce a tone when struck. Frizzell and Sanderson both state that only about 25 to 30 percent of the stones found in the park actually ring. My own observations were a little less cut and dry.

By my estimation, about 10 percent of the rocks ring like a bell when struck. These rocks are easily identifiable because the top portion of each stone has been chipped away by repeated hammering from curious visitors eager to hear their harmonious tones.

A further 50 percent of the rocks do not ring at all and simply produce a more predictable sharp "chink!" when struck. The remaining 40 percent of the rocks in the field fall somewhere in between producing a dull or short-lived ring nowhere near as magnificent as the 10 percent that make up the true ringers.

The 40 percent that fall in between the ringers and non-ringers may in fact represent a transitional group of stones as the field as a whole moves towards a more homogenous state. Future generations may one day find a field entirely composed of ringing rocks, or sadly one that no longer rings at all.

As I walked through the park it became apparent that the tone emitted varied from stone to stone. In fact, so many distinct pitches can be found throughout the field that in 1890 Dr. J. J. Ott accompanied by the Pleasant Vally Band, played several songs using the ringing rocks during a meeting of the Buck Wampum Literary and Historical Association.1

Over the years a variety of experts have put forth theories as to why the rocks ring when struck. In 1919, before the Bucks County Historical Society, Dr. B. F. Fackenthal proclaimed that the observed ringing was due to the rocks' textures. However, he was unable to explain why some boulders in the field ring, while seemingly identical stones of the same composition and texture do not.

More than 40 years later Dr. Richard Faas conducted a series of laboratory experiments and found that when a ringing rock is struck it produces a series of subaudible frequencies that combine to form a tone audible to the human ear. While significant, this discovery still could not explain why only certain rocks within the field ring and most perplexing of all, why no rocks in the surrounding forest will ring even though they share the same diabase composition.2

Research continued and in 1970 scientists John Gibbons and Steven Schlossman concluded that the rocks sing due to an intense internal stress that amplifies the stones' natural frequencies causing them to ring. The cause of this stress was theorized to be a selective weathering process caused by water seeping into the porous rock through minute fissures. The liquid then reacts with pyroxenes found within the stone to form a sort of clay the takes up more volume than the mineral it replaces thereby placing an immense strain on the core of the rock.3

Gibbons and Schlossman further theorized that stones found outside of the main boulder field within the forested areas do not ring because of contact with the moist soil. This overabundance of water causes a much more rapid stressing of the ore leading to fracturing that eventually relieves the pressure and nullifies the ringing qualities of the stones.

While this all sounds perfectly reasonable, it does not explain all of the mysteries found at the park. For instance, why do at least 50 percent of the rocks within the field exhibit no signs of ringing even though they are under identical environmental conditions to ringers located literally right next to them?

Other so called statements of fact in Gibbons and Schlossman's research bare further scrutiny as well. For instance the claim is made that if a ringer is removed from the delicate environment of the field, or if it is smashed into pieces, it will cease to produce a tone. Furthermore Dr. Wherry stated that in order for a rock to ring, it must be positioned in an area so that several of its sides are unobstructed and able to vibrate freely.

All of these claims have been proven false. Both Sanderson and Frizzell removed specimens from the field for prolonged periods of study over a number of years and witnessed no degradation in their ringing qualities. Frizzell witnessed a number of ringing rocks that were broken into several pieces and yet each piece continued to produce a tone.2

Lastly, even a casual visitor to the site will notice numerous examples of rocks tightly wedged into spaces on all sides that produce brilliant sounds. Sanderson goes so far as to quotes an instance where several stones were set in concrete and yet they still continued to ring just as well as before.1 It seems that the scientific community still has a long way to go in explaining away the many mysteries found at this site.

As I stepped from boulder to boulder gingerly hammering away at various rocks, I couldn't help but wonder how this stone field really came into existence. Was there more to the mystery than just an ancient break up of the underlying bedrock as Dr. Wherry had suggested? Often times out of place rocks or erratics are attributed to glacial movement depositing stones in distant areas that they're not native to. Wherry ruled out this explanation for the Ringing Rocks because the continental glacier did not reach as far south as Bucks County.

Another theory for the origin of the field is that it is the remains of a stony meteorite that broke up in the Earth's atmosphere and came crashing into this wooded area. Superficially with their dimpled texture and mottled coating of reddish oxide, the rocks do resemble meteor fragments. But of course the chances of a meteor just happening to be composed of the identical diabase stone that the underlying bedrock is composed of seems too implausible to believe.

One last explanation bears at least some scrutiny. Is it possible that the rock field is the remains of some ancient structure that has long since decomposed into ruin? Support for this seemingly far out theory was found by Sanderson and his team in 1971 when they discovered a small cavern on the northern perimeter of the field. Within the tight space, they were able to discern stone blocks that appeared to be cut and laid in a purposeful manner and held together with mortar.1

This discovery was confirmed by the Enigma Project in 1978 and John Kopfle, a chemical engineer, reported on the existence of a cavity that extended for 15-20 feet into the back of the cave composed of "neat rows of cut stone blocks." I walked back and forth across the northern edge of the rock field, but I could discover no trace of the cavern. Based on published photos the entrance is quite small and without more exact directions, I simple couldn't track it down.2

Just beyond the northwest edge of the field, I did come across a low wall made up of small rocks heading in a straight line off to the west. I followed it to an open field where the wall made a 90 degree turn following the property of a local farm. Stone walls are not at all uncommon in this part of the country. Some appear to have very ancient origins, but most are of recent construction and are used as property boundaries. Most likely the stone wall leading away from the Ringing Rocks is the latter and not some remnant of an ancient fort.

As I walked back to the rocky clearing, it was hard to envision this jumble of boulders once being part of an ancient construction. Except for the small tunnel, none of the rocks in the field seem to exhibit any signs of having been worked by man and to my knowledge no artifacts have been found in the field that would suggest ancient inhabitants.

From the mysteries of why only certain rocks ring to the lack of meaningful indigenous life forms in the area, there is much left for science to explain at Ringing Rocks Park. Some day the mystery may be solved, but for now these singing stones will hold onto their secrets until further investigation can unravel the many enigmas at this unexplained site.


Source    http://www.unexplainedearth.com/ringing.php

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http://ringrocks.yolasite.com/

Jared Fortner

NOVA Rockies 2009

WHAT ARE THE RINGING ROCKS?
The Ringing Rocks are a small portion of the region known as the Boulder Batholith.  The Boulder Batholith is Cretaceous in age and composes the mountain ranges between Butte and Helena.  The Ringing Rocks themselves are an exposed igneous pluton which has been exposed at the surface due  to a downdrop of the land surrounding it.  The pluton has since curmbled apon itself giving its appearance today as a strange pile of boulders.   The way the pluton fell to pieces is unique.  The ringing rocks are all boulders.  You can find no gravel or smaller sized particles in the  pile.  The Rocks are mafic and coarse-grained, and we interpret them to be gabbro.  The boulders are very angular in shape making them unique from the surrounding granitic plutons.  The rocks themselves weather a rust red on the surface due to iron oxide and are pitch black on fresh surfaces.  The truly remarkable thing about these rocks, is that when they are struck with a hammer or rock, they create banging or ringing noises of various volumes and pitches.

WHERE ARE THE ROCKS THAT RING?





The Theories behind the ring.

The truth is nobody actually knows exactly why the rocks that compose this pluton create this spectacular ringing noise.  Many people have drawn theories to why and how they ring and the basis of my study is to speculate a theory as well.

The rocks make a ringing noise similiar to a bell. Some believe that there is metallic material inside of the rocks creating the noise.  Another theory is that it has to do with the way the rocks are positioned on the pile, this theory is supported by the observation that the rock no longer seems to ring once it is taken off of the pile. 

The theory that I support is that  the ringing is a combonation of the position of the rock,  the rocks composition and the effect of resonance within the rock, and surrounding rocks


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Uploaded on Nov 22, 2011
Deborah Peters, a graphic designer at Pennsylvania College of Technology and a '97 graphic design graduate, explores the amazing sounds of Ringing Rocks Park in Bucks County, Pa. Ringing Rocks was one of the favorite spots for a beloved Penn College student: http://bit.ly/t5sDap

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An article about a visit to Ringing Rocks Park, entitled Song of the Stones printed in Dignity Magazine.

http://www.davidhanauer.com/buckscounty/dignity/song-of-stones.html

The following article appeared in the July 2001 issue of Dignity, a publication of the Pocono Record.

Song of the Stones

Using a stone the size of a baseball, the Catbird judiciously tapped a boulder the size of an office safe and was stunned to hear it chime like Big Ben.
"It's hollow!" she cried.

"No," I responded with the smug assurance of one who already has checked things out on the internet. "It's not hollow; it's just full of iron and other hard minerals."

"I won't go into what you're full of," she responded, sweetly, "but I still say it's hollow. It rings like a bell!"

In the vast field of boulders that give Ringing Rocks Park in Bucks County its name, they all ring like bells, with tones ranging from high ping to sonorous bong. If one could assemble an orchestra of percussionists, each placed at a boulder tuned to a note on the diatonic scale, one might stage a very literal rock concert. Whatever the score, "heavy metal" would lie at its heart, because despite the Catbird's opinion to the contrary, it really is the iron content that makes them ring.

If any geomorphologist knows where all those great stones came from, I haven't found him or her. There is no mountain nearby down which they might have rolled. No remnant of a primordial volcanic furnace in which their igneous bodies might have been forged when the world was young is evident to the layman's eye. They simply lie there, as though cast like eldrich runes from the hand of a giant, in the heart of a 65-acre park owned by Bucks County just 9 miles south of Easton.

The area they occupy might have been a lake bed at some point in time. It covers roughly two acres, surrounded by the forested terrain typical of the rest of Pennsylvania, but for all that one can detect of their origin, they might have come from outer space. We're told another identical phenomenon is located just outside Pottstown. In all our travels, we've never encountered anything quite like it.

Ringing Rocks Park, however, is not easy to find -- especially if you're approaching it from the north, where no signs announce its presence.

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http://www.davidhanauer.com/buckscounty/ringingrocks/


Ringing Rocks
Ringing Rocks Park is a 128 acre park nestled in the woods in Upper Black Eddy. Located within the park is a field of boulders, about 7-8 acres in size, that have an unusual property. When the rocks are struck with a hammer or another rock, they sound as if they are metal and hollow and ring with a sound similar to a metal pipe being struck. The park also has Bucks County's largest waterfall.

Besides the strange ringing properties of the stones, there are other mysteries surrounding this park. One odd thing about the park is that most boulder fields are the result of an avalanche from a mountainside collapsing. This boulder field, however, is towards the top of the hill, not the bottom. That means it didn't result from a rock slide. There is also no evidence to suggest that these were dropped here by a glacier as glaciers were not thought to have come this far south. How did this boulder field get to be like this?

The boulders are made of a substance called diabase which is basically volcanic basalt. This is one of the largest diabase boulder fields in the Eastern United States. The boulders have a high content of iron and aluminum and were thought to have broken apart during the Pleistocene Epoch probably about 12,000 years ago. The boulders were created through many years of freeze-thaw cycles that broke up the diabase into individual pieces, a process known as "frost wedging". The rocks may then have accumulated in this one area as the water saturated soil provided lubrication for the stones to "creep" downhill to their present location, a process known as "solifluction". This could have happened during the prior ice ages when overlying moist soil literally slid over the frozen permafrost below, carrying the boulders with it.

Others have more fanciful explanations such as radioactivity, meteorites, comets, or strange magnetic fields. Even supernatural possibilities have been suggested, and the area has been studied by those with an inclincation for the paranormal.

In June, 1890 Dr. J. J. Ott collected enough rocks with different pitches to play some tunes accompanied by the Pleasent Valley Band. This event took place at Stony Garden during the Buckwampun meeting and was, perhaps, the first ever rock concert.


This is a wide view of the boulder field in Ringing Rocks park. It almost appears as if it is a dry river bed, but it's not.












It is odd that this one area seems to be so devoid of life, both flaura and fauna. While the surrounding area is thickly wooded one has to look hard to even see a weed growing in the crevices. The boulder field itself is supposedly 10 feet thick and devoid almost completely of soil--the boulders are said to sit on top of bedrock. It is odd if true, since one would expect the entire field to be quickly buried in leaf litter after just a few years considering the amount of trees surrounding it. That there isn't much wildlife around is not surprising since most animals are probably scared away from an area constantly overrun by people loudly banging rocks with hammers.


A close-up view of one of the boulders, showing its weathering pattern. Some have thought that this pattern could suggest evidence for a meteorite of extraterrestrial origin, although that is not likely.


This rock was found cracked open. If nothing else it does show that the stones are solid.



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http://www.buckscounty.org/government/parksandrecreation/parks/RingingRocks

Parks and Recreation
Ringing Rocks Park (128 acres)



Gigas

Some times the matrix has to propagate these things for a long time as to not make it obvious this stuff comes out of nowhere into the human consciousness. The rocks sound like tapping on pots and pans only the sound is from what looks to be rock being tapped on. The observable reality can be false with peculiarities not matching the what the observer expects. Nothing is as it appears in this reality.

The fact you were a rock collector at 14 means you weren't told of this and that means you could not know of it. Kinda like neo saying to the architect, either no one told me, or know one knows. But now it's known and you finally found out.

I had a car that had trouble with the wipers not moving across my windsheild. I looked under the hood for that wiper motor and never found it. I took it to the mechanic and he pointed it out, now I saw it. This is the same thing that was told by indians who stood on the shores of the new world as the arrivals from the old world rowed up to the shore in boats. The indians saw them but didn't see the ships that brought them.

The rule of reality seems it has to be subjective, before being objective.
Everyone loves me, till they're sick of me

zorgon

Quote from: space otter on August 26, 2015, 12:58:20 AM
ahh Z.. ringing rocks state park is on my list along with hawk mt  http://www.hawkmountain.org/
on the eastern part of pa.

some things for ya...


But the QUESTION of the day is...

Why did I never hear of these before now? from anyone from any book  :D

They were NOT in my timeline before yesterday :P


I think these guys are messing with our heads while we sleep


space otter

#42


wellllllllllllllllllll  now you know what that old line really means

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING..!


I really luv where I live and that state park has been on my list a long time..but I am always picking up new stuff about other things...you just don't know - what you don't know..

bwahahahahahahahah






oh yeah ps..when you know EVERYTHING you go poof... ;D


space otter



hey Z..maybe a rock section, huh?

I did get to crawl all over  this one  but ran out of time to get to the ringing rocks on that trip..
I had read this was also n eruption of the earths mantle and was hoping for some psychic insight but too many humans before me had climbed all over it..  still interesting
the youie is ok after about the first minute


there is also I place I have been looking for that I rode thur once on a competition (you just wanted to stop and sty there) and then years later saw a tv thing about it being the oldest piece of rocks from gaia and had been id'd by some penn state group..you'd think that would be easy to track down..sigh 
I have found it on a walking trails map but it has been closed down to traffic.




http://enchantedmountains.com/place/rock-city-park
Rock City Park

Rock City Park is a majestic geological spectacle of enormous rock formations and is sometimes called one of the Eighth Wonders of the World. This prehistoric ocean floor is the World's largest exposure of quartz conglomerate (also called ocean spar or puddingstone) and attracts thousands of visitors yearly.

Located on top of Rock City Hill, on route 16, south of Olean, New York. Its altitude is 2,300 feet above sea level. Walk among natures creations and marvel at the rock formations!

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http://visitanf.com/rock-city-park/
An Adventure Worth Repeating

Rock City Park - Olean, NYDescending crevice staircases lead to levels strewn with great monolithic rocks of dramatic sizes and shapes. Once a "fortress" for Indians, the city of rocks is an adventure you'll want to repeat.


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skip to :55 to see  the rocks



zorgon

Quote from: space otter on August 26, 2015, 02:22:16 PM

hey Z..maybe a rock section, huh?

I started one actually  just never got back to it

I will fix that because I wanted to tie in my rocks for sale

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=49.msg617#msg617