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Started by zorgon, August 01, 2015, 09:31:24 PM

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Sinny

ArMaP,
Okay please tell me why the symbolism includes flying metal contraptions and how you would interpret these flying metal contraptions and where you think these artists might have got the inspiration to paint flying metal contraptions
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

A51Watcher

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Quote from: space otter on August 09, 2015, 04:03:51 AM

hey 51
I was only speaking about stars around the sun..sorry if you thought anything else.. I came in late and should have sat on my fingers instead of typing...

but folks looking at art are like folks observing a wreck..no one sees the same thing

That's a good point.

But no you should not have sat on your fingers. Your opinions are always welcome as you have shown yourself to be honest and unbiased in all discussions.




ArMaP

Quote from: Sinny on August 10, 2015, 02:30:54 AM
Okay please tell me why the symbolism includes flying metal contraptions and how you would interpret these flying metal contraptions and where you think these artists might have got the inspiration to paint flying metal contraptions
I don't know why the symbolism includes what you call "flying metal contraptions", as I said several times I didn't study art history, I only know that it exists and covers these topics.

To tell you how I would interpret those flying metal contraptions you must show me which ones you are talking about, so I can be sure we are talking about the same thing.

I don't know where the artists got their inspiration or even if the way those things were painted were a result of their inspiration or, like the three stars, were supposed to be drawn like that.

Sinny

Right, well I know a lost cause when I see one.

Who are you aand what have you done with ArMaP, it's irrelevant now, don't bother answering.

:)
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

Senduko

Quote from: ArMaP on August 10, 2015, 01:23:16 PM
I don't know where the artists got their inspiration or even if the way those things were painted were a result of their inspiration or, like the three stars, were supposed to be drawn like that.

Mind if I ask, lets all agree that painters did get inspired by the stuff they saw in real life, and even the "rules" that dictate a style or artform are inspired by objects/persons/clothing of that time.

With this in mind, don't you agree that these disks/metal orbs are serious out of place?

Sinny

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P.s I haven't JUST decided to label them 'flying metal contraptions', that's what mine eye's do see. I'm describing them  ::)

ArMaP can't see the wood for the tree's.

He's being an 'ostrich who like to play with words'.
"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

ArMaP

Quote from: Senduko on August 10, 2015, 03:28:21 PM
Mind if I ask, lets all agree that painters did get inspired by the stuff they saw in real life, and even the "rules" that dictate a style or artform are inspired by objects/persons/clothing of that time.

With this in mind, don't you agree that these disks/metal orbs are serious out of place?
Flying disks and metal orbs? Yes, they are out of place on a renaissance painting.

ArMaP

#112
Quote from: Sinny on August 10, 2015, 04:13:36 PM
P.s I haven't JUST decided to label them 'flying metal contraptions', that's what mine eye's do see. I'm describing them  ::)
Well, that's not what my eyes see, that's why I need you to tell me what you see as "flying metal contraptions".

QuoteArMaP can't see the wood for the tree's.

He's being an 'ostrich who like to play with words'.
No, I just want to be sure what we're talking about, it's too easy to have several people talking each one of a specific case and nobody understands that's the case, and, because of that, they cannot reach any conclusion.

And that's exactly to avoid the plays with words, I need a base reference, clear definitions, so when someone talks about "metal spheres" (for example) I can know exactly what that person means.

Littleenki

I think flying metal contraptions is a fine description...perhaps of the archetypical variety.

Did the artists bring back some ingrained visual reference, or was it more of an inventive nature, as we see in Da Vinci drawings?

Things painted by people who never even remotely saw anything in the sky quite like them tell me they were either painted by a person who had visions of archetypical forms, a forward thinking artist, or someone who saw something that was still being seen in the sky in the 14-17th centuries that might have seemed far too common for a brainwashed laity.

And that something looks like a flying contraption to me. :)

Cheers!
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