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[ArMaP]

ArMaP, do you have the ATS thread link?

It's this one.

As an answer to funbox, I posted in that thread that I don't think it's a result of the brush tool.

[ArMaP]

a typical complimentary text from them too, more description of camera settinsg and time of day.. but its not always like that , sometimes they give their theorys on what we're looking at, ide say it was an unusual aversion , but you know

All MAHLI photos have that explanation.

As a kind of PS, I made a mistake and used the wrong page, this is the information for the specific photo we are discussing:

When this image was obtained, the focus motor count position was 14695. This number indicates the internal position of the MAHLI lens at the time the image was acquired. This count also tells whether the dust cover was open or closed. Values between 0 and 6000 mean the dust cover was closed; values between 12500 and 16000 occur when the cover is open. For close-up images, the motor count can in some cases be used to estimate the distance between the MAHLI lens and target. For example, in-focus images obtained with the dust cover open for which the lens was 2.5 cm from the target have a motor count near 15270. If the lens is 5 cm from the target, the motor count is near 14360; if 7 cm, 13980; 10 cm, 13635; 15 cm, 13325; 20 cm, 13155; 25 cm, 13050; 30 cm, 12970. These correspond to image scales, in micrometers per pixel, of about 16, 25, 32, 42, 60, 77, 95, and 113.

Someone under the name of PaulH51 on the Unmanned Space Flight forum posted this image with an added scale on this post.

[funbox]

It's hard to say, but it's a possibility.

As I have said in other occasions, when there's life there's always more than one species, so if those are fossils we should see more than one species. As we are looking at a very small area that doesn't mean that we should see those other species in that area, only that if we see other fossil-looking things but different from these then that makes it more likely that they are fossils, at least from my point of view.

indeed collaborative evidence is a must, , how about the potential clam shells to go along with the potential worm creatures, or the potential slugophiles that potentially evolved from them, their planet becoming a dry plate , forcing them to eat rocks, slow moving , but what's time in the scheme of survival ? high speed evolution to adapt to a rapidly diminishing environment.. has this already been witnessed on earth?

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[ArMaP]

I don't remember any case of rapid evolution, but I remember two cases of rapid adaptation. The first was some moths in the UK that had a relatively brighter colour, but with the industrial revolution and all the pollution from the burning of coal the trees started to get covered with black soot, so the moths started changing to a darker colour.
The second case is the case of those bacteria in Chernobyl that adapted to use the radiation instead of Sun light.

[funbox]

I don't remember any case of rapid evolution, but I remember two cases of rapid adaptation. The first was some moths in the UK that had a relatively brighter colour, but with the industrial revolution and all the pollution from the burning of coal the trees started to get covered with black soot, so the moths started changing to a darker colour.
The second case is the case of those bacteria in Chernobyl that adapted to use the radiation instead of Sun light.

indeed , I think your term is more appropriate , evolution having such a vague and broad meaning

although ide imagine for the bacteria the switch from sunlight to radiation would have had many changes in it genes instruction for replication , albeit that bacteria have a phenomenally quick reproduction rate, ide imagine there would be quite a bit of difference in gene's instructions, between sunlight and Chernobyl's unwanted exudations

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[Dyna]

I don't remember any case of rapid evolution, but I remember two cases of rapid adaptation. The first was some moths in the UK that had a relatively brighter colour, but with the industrial revolution and all the pollution from the burning of coal the trees started to get covered with black soot, so the moths started changing to a darker colour.
The second case is the case of those bacteria in Chernobyl that adapted to use the radiation instead of Sun light.

But there are cases listed as such.

Lizards Undergo Rapid Evolution After Introduction To A New Home

n 1971, biologists moved five adult pairs of Italian wall lizards from their home island of Pod Kopiste, in the South Adriatic Sea, to the neighboring island of Pod Mrcaru. Now researchers have shown that introducing these small, green-backed lizards, Podarcis sicula, to a new environment caused them to undergo rapid and large-scale evolutionary changes.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080417112433.htm

Rapid evolution of acute mastoiditis: three case reports of otogenic meningitis in adults.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15547816

Super-Predators: Humans Force Rapid Evolution of Animals

http://www.livescience.com/3224-super-predators-humans-force-rapid-evolution-animals.html

i only had 5 mins free to search so just a couple examples.

[Pimander]

Before I duplicate other peoples work, does anyone know what the chemical composition of the rock is?  Is it likely to have been deposited in water?

[ArMaP]

Before I duplicate other peoples work, does anyone know what the chemical composition of the rock is?

I have no idea.

Is it likely to have been deposited in water?

I think so.

[funbox]

these from mahli maybe similar

http://mars.nasa.gov/msl/multimedia/raw/?s=1418&camera=MAHLI

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[funbox]

But there are cases listed as such.n 1971, biologists moved five adult pairs of Italian wall lizards from their home island of Pod Kopiste, in the South Adriatic Sea, to the neighboring island of Pod Mrcaru. Now researchers have shown that introducing these small, green-backed lizards, Podarcis sicula, to a new environment caused them to undergo rapid and large-scale evolutionary changes.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080417112433.htmhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15547816
http://www.livescience.com/3224-super-predators-humans-force-rapid-evolution-animals.html

i only had 5 mins free to search so just a couple examples.

you suggesting there's a lot more ?.. and what credence could be given to spontaneous evolution?, say for instance , instantly adapting and rewriting at a genome level instructions on adaption to the effects of a nuclear weapon's blast.. thats adaption very quickly to multiple levels of the em spectrum..in a blink of an eye... a viability? how far can we push this theory of evolution? are their limits ?

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[funbox]

seem to be tube like structure's...a partialy broken one ?


*imgur seems broken, upgradedowngrade*

looks like good ole fashioned clock cords .. 6 30, small hand points direct
http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/01417/mhli/1417MH0001630000503116R00_DXXX.jpg

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[Pimander]

I watched a BBC documentary the other night.  Apparently they have used a Mars Rover like curiosity to search for life in the desert in the USA (possibly New Mexico I forget).  Apparently the users failed to detect life, missed fossils and even huge dinosaur footprints.

 

The horizon Guide to Mars

[funbox]

there are none so blind as those who refuse to see
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strange you should say that



http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/01420/mcam/1420MR0070050090702410E01_DXXX.jpg

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[rdunk]

strange you should say that



http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/01420/mcam/1420MR0070050090702410E01_DXXX.jpg

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I strongly suggest that this NASA photo is just another of many that have been doctored to hide the truth of the reality of real life on Mars. This pic definitely does not exhibit "real life, except of course........ this one does have the look of a  true  alien!!!

[funbox]

I strongly suggest that this NASA photo is just another of many that have been doctored to hide the truth of the reality of real life on Mars. This pic definitely does not exhibit "real life, except of course........ this one does have the look of a  true  alien!!!

it took every ounce of will to post, but now I just feel dirty and abused. Contaminated.

Mods can you take a flame thrower to the entire thread , mind out though, im not to sure what this anomaly bleeds

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