a martian oddbox

[Pimander]

in your mind you believe all the curly shaped markings are fossils,

No I have not.  I have decided that I don't think they are fossils

so you are manipulating the photographic picture in your mind,

No, you are fantasizing that you know what my mind is doing.

I believe ive already asked for clarification on what potentials your talking about  ..

Above I asked you which marks were visible before brushing that you were referring to.  You can't because none of them look like fossils/anomalies.

I have already said I don't think ANY OF THEM that are visible both before and after brushing look like fossils/anomalies so there is no point me referring to any specific ones.

therefore you've already classified them in your brain, and segregated them as the ones that are covered by sand..

Looks like you enjoy trying to imagine how other peoples mind works.  You're wrong.

you didn't ask what I thought were fossils at which im deeply upset.

Yes I did in a post above.  You can't though because it will prove me right.

sadly this isn't a place I can go to see the full picture, on how you've gone wrong

It appears I went wrong by assuming you wanted to know the truth and get to the bottom of this.  It appears you'd rather put words into my mouth or fantasize about how my mind works.

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No I have not.  I have decided that I don't think they are fossils
No, you are fantasizing that you know what my mind is doing.
Above I asked you which marks were visible before brushing that you were referring to.  You can't because none of them look like fossils/anomalies.

I have already said I don't think ANY OF THEM that are visible both before and after brushing look like fossils/anomalies so there is no point me referring to any specific ones.
Looks like you enjoy trying to imagine how other peoples mind works.  You're wrong.
Yes I did in a post above.  You can't though because it will prove me right.
It appears I went wrong by assuming you wanted to know the truth and get to the bottom of this.  It appears you'd rather put words into my mouth or fantasize about how my mind works.

no no Pimanda .. just getiing to know you

but be honest .. you did ascribe the curly shaped marks to fossils

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[Pimander]

but be honest .. you did ascribe the curly shaped marks to fossils

I remember saying "They look a lot like parts of crinoid fossils to me".  I also see animals when I look at clouds though.

For the record this is the post.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8636.msg125936#msg125936

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I remember saying "They look a lot like parts of crinoid fossils to me".  I also see animals when I look at clouds though.

For the record this is the post.

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8636.msg125936#msg125936

hmmm word dodgy too , now im getting to know you better
the other lie was that I was really upset
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but my apologies, I appear to completely mistook your slant on these pictures, before and after

no hard feelings

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[Pimander]

but my apologies, I appear to completely mistook your slant on these pictures, before and after

Look, I suspect the Universe is teeming with life.  Not just the odd fossil.

Everywhere we have been, the Antarctic, hot springs, deep underground in total darkness, near volcanic vents, in the upper atmosphere and even in low Earth orbit life can survive.

Basically, the Goldilocks zone is complete BS.  Life can easily exist outside of it.

It looks likely that the building blocks of DNA exist in the interstellar dust.  That bacteria and possibly viruses could survive deep space travel.  If life exists here it can travel through space to elsewhere.

I also think there are likely life forms that are not DNA based.  One example is that there are plasmas in space that seem to behave a lot like living things.  I could go on.

We exist,  The Observable Universe has a Septillion stars (24,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000), which is 5 to 10 times as many stars as there are grains of sand on Earth!!!

If life exists on the only one we know and can travel through space then obviously.....  Then there is the time factor.

Earth has existed for 4.5 billion years but life has existed for most of that time (since at least 3.8billion years ago).  So if it only takes a short time in terms of the age of the Universe then it has had a LOT of time to form everywhere else and a Septillion stars to choose from.

WOW! 

ETA:  Yes, you misunderstood me.

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Look, I suspect the Universe is teeming with life.  Not just the odd fossil.

Everywhere we have been, the Antarctic, hot springs, deep underground in total darkness, near volcanic vents, in the upper atmosphere and even in low Earth orbit life can survive.

Basically, the Goldilocks zone is complete BS.  Life can easily exist outside of it.

It looks likely that the building blocks of DNA exist in the interstellar dust.  That bacteria and possibly viruses could survive deep space travel.  If life exists here it can travel through space to elsewhere.

I also think there are likely life forms that are not DNA based.  One example is that there are plasmas in space that seem to behave a lot like living things.  I could go on.

We exist,  The Observable Universe has a Septillion stars (24,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000), which is 5 to 10 times as many stars as there are grains of sand on Earth!!!

If life exists on the only one we know and can travel through space then obviously.....  Then there is the time factor.

Earth has existed for 4.5 billion years but life has existed for most of that time (since at least 3.8billion years ago).  So if it only takes a short time in terms of the age of the Universe then it has had a LOT of time to form everywhere else and a Septillion stars to choose from.

WOW! 

ETA:  Yes, you misunderstood me.

have you been reading up the drake equation? im guessing it needs a big update, I did ask Jadestar once about how the new exo-planetary finding have jiggered it somewhat, I still think im waiting on that retort im guessing the Math is somewhat akin to Bistromaths

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[Pimander]

have you been reading up the drake equation? im guessing it needs a big update,

I'd go so far as to say the estimates based on that are nonsense.  We don't know of many places life can't exist below a temperature of about 120C.  If NASA can't find life with their budget then they need new staff!

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I'd go so far as to say the estimates based on that are nonsense.  We don't know of many places life can't exist below a temperature of about 120C.  If NASA can't find life with their budget then they need new staff!

staff? actors more like, suffice to say if you act in such a pretentious way in the excitement of X Y or Z, don't expect people to believe your shady Martian photographs

.. someone must have said.." there not very excited about their achievements are they"

now we have preschool sugar fuelled fakery in control room,

frig em

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[ArMaP]

staff? actors more like, suffice to say if you act in such a pretentious way in the excitement of X Y or Z, don't expect people to believe your shady Martian photographs

So, it's OK for a conspiracy theorist to be excited about something he/she doesn't understand, but it's not if you're a scientist seeing the work of your lifetime confirmed.

[Pimander]

They have made some massive mistakes regarding the Mars missions.  I emailed asking for data on CO₂ isotope ratios and the instruments were not sensitive enough to get a reliable reading.

What a waste of money sending the instruments millions of km to Mars!  Madness.   

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So, it's OK for a conspiracy theorist to be excited about something he/she doesn't understand, but it's not if you're a scientist seeing the work of your lifetime confirmed.

point me to a video of a conspiracy theorist in such throws of exaggerated excitement, and ill eat my words *animated gif style* a simple poll could be the judge

*throws down the gauntlet*

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[ArMaP]

They have made some massive mistakes regarding the Mars missions.  I emailed asking for data on CO₂ isotope ratios and the instruments were not sensitive enough to get a reliable reading.

What a waste of money sending the instruments millions of km to Mars!  Madness.   

Was that instrument's only purpose to do that CO2 analysis?

[ArMaP]

point me to a video of a conspiracy theorist in such throws of exaggerated excitement, and ill eat my words *animated gif style* a simple poll could be the judge

*throws down the gauntlet*

No videos, but you only have to read the posts on places like this forum (in a different topic there was people talking about Nobel prizes for something they didn't understood) or ATS and see the reactions when things appear to support their ideas.

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No videos, but you only have to read the posts on places like this forum (in a different topic there was people talking about Nobel prizes for something they didn't understood)

no gif for you then.. but I don't know what you referring to here, topic, this forum , people talking nobel prizes , understanding lacking ?

and here's me thinking you would drop an Alex jones Video up ... o well

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