Hillary Clinton Pledges Area 51, , Says “We May Have Been” Visited by ET already

[zorgon]

But this one... I have to ask about ! 
why do you suggest hes a Egyptian Spirit ? and not just someone on the forum with set knowledge of the subject ?

Yoda: You will know...

Was this on the prior open mind forum ?

On the 1Annunaki forum   The film that was suppressed and never allowed to make it to the theater

Not sure who Matt is !

Co-founder of Pegasus

Is this the same as the  Rosicrucianism
is it also some sort of Occult Society ? with Egyptian connection..

"some sort of occult society" 

Probably  yes

[zorgon]

Interesting that Hollywood has come out with popular films or TV shows that pull some of the veil away.  You have the Avengers/Marvel talking about a civil war in the US and you have Blacklist which regularly fights against "The Cabal" connected with an evil CIA.

Hollywood is a very good source of information A LOT is hidden in plain site. This does not mean you should take everything as fact. You still need to follow up on real leads

A good example is James Bond films. Remeber that scene where James stole a rocket pack to get away? THAT was still on the secret list at the time

Stargate SG1 TV series... we have endless pages about the reality of that show here and at ATS  The "Stargates are Real" thread at ATS is still the #1 top thread in the UFO section (well it was last time I checked) That TV show has FOUR government agencies supporting it. The Dept of Defence, the Air Force, the NAVY and US Space Command. The patch worn on the Prometheus is the REAL Space Command patch. In Stargate Continuum they used the real nuclear sub with the real commander and officers. Tom Bedlam told us to pay attention to the background as you can spot soem real secrets on that sub

The CIA and FBI get some really good exposure  both good and bad but there are over 150 intelligence agencies in the USA alone. Most people have no clue about them (you can read about them on our website)

One TV show worth watching for reality is NCIS(Naval Criminal Investigative Service)  It is funny and informative. Showing the active connection between the NAVY and the Mossad... AND they show who really runs things as SECNAV(Secretary of the Navy) always has top priority over FBI CIA and even Secret Servive

It is the top rated TV series and has run for 13 seasons

There was one show that mentioned AUTEC  It was interesting because the episode really had nothing to do with AUTEC (A.U.T.E.C The Naval Area 51) only the name mentions as a possible involvement. What was interesting is that Abbey  the Goth gal forensic specialist... made a MODEL of AUTEC and in bits throughout the episode she was working the mysterious conspiracy angle about AUTEC ... a real in your face hint

AUTEC- Atlantic Undersea Testing & Evaluations Center.

As to magic and its reality, I would like something better than 'it works but I can't demonstrate it".  If the TM experiments with mass meditation are valid, we might be more powerful than we think.  The father-son team that tried to study prayer objectively years ago got pounded with hate mail and both committed suicide. Very spooky. Is there someone above us that blocks exposure?

It appears so that someone or something is blocking us. Ingo Swann the best remote viewer we had writes about this blockage in his book "Penetration"

In the stories of the past sorcerers, witched, magicians were able to do all sorts of 'magic' Then came the Dark Ages.  Back in the 50's both Russian and the USA started researching psychis powers with some success but we could never get near moving spaceships like Yoda did or mountains like Jesus told us

So seeking that blockade has been the life search of most modern seekers and "Illuminati"

Is it possible that the "dark side" has gained so much power only they can do it? Maybe BUT if they were THAt powerful we would be in really deep sh!t right now

So in my opinion the blockade is from outside (which is what Ingo says as well)  Beth(Undo) told us of a time during her illness that she had an OBE and went out into space above the Earth where she had an encounter that scares her back to earth though did her no actual harm

Ingo's story "Penertation" is also a scary read

Few years back when one of our admin Old Dude had a team of 5 amateur (women) RVers go on a trip to the moon, all but one was scared so bad they returned right away. One hung out and hid in a cave, manages to sketch a plant at the mouth of that cave then she too feared for her life and ran. All 5 quit RV after that

In another case I ran into a chap at ATS. I spoke about certain persons who were involved in the CIA Stargate RV program and mentioned that one person, Ron Blackburn had created Psitech to take Stargate into the public sector after congress found out about it and ordered it shut down (the files vanished )

This fellow said "Bullshit"   The next day he came back and said "Errrr what you said yesterday... I'll get back to you"  the third day he came back and said "You were right... but it's a tabboo subject at work"  Apparently he asked his boss Seems he worked at Psitech  Almost got fired for asking but was told "We don't disguss that here" in a very firm way. He since formed his own RV company  He then said 'I owe you one... where would you like to see?"

So I requested a look at Venus... I have the report  will post it soon...  The team did not understand the results and they were so scared that they asked the report not be released.

So yes we are being blocked by someone/something for some unknown reason

It MAY be because we are really still at Kindergarten level but playing with matches called Nukes

The 1951 movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still" was based on a real story

[astr0144]

A lot more thought provoking content that you posted to this thread "Z"..A Lot to try to take in and absorb... and some of it seems rather disturbing..and concerning.

One may have to question looking so deep into such things for the sake of ones own life / family / connected associates.

Its a wonder we are still here    but I know there have been some who have lost connections...and maybe some may wonder as to why, or natural causes.

Is / was this CIA ploy to the Main players within the field or even the  conspiracist or researchers..

Very true. It was quite common in the early days of UFO research CIA agents infiltrated EVERY UFO group and as far as I know are still there today. For insiders spilling the beans they usually left you alive after killing your dog your wife your kids so you will know the error of your ways.  Sudden death by cancer was a favorite  hard to tr

It takes some time to take some of it in or to be able to easily respond to in one attempted reply or session...

Will have to try and come back to some of it..

Some of those things just seem in another life outside and beyond what most folk can to try to comprehend..

This reply may take someone like ArMaP to question what you mean if I cannot work this reply out..

Quote from: astr0144 on Today at 07:38:50 AM
But this one... I have to ask about ! 
why do you suggest hes a Egyptian Spirit ? and not just someone on the forum with set knowledge of the subject ?

This was about "Planet X" and the Annunaki..
They did do a movie later that was similar to this...

On the 1Annunaki forum   The film that was suppressed and never allowed to make it to the theater

Was he from other forums that you were on prior to PRC..ATS or Openminds..

How many Co founders were they other than you and him ?
(Are the others the main mods that still remain and are active or even with John)

or was it just the two of you ?

I dont recall seeing him posting...What happened to him ?

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Not sure who Matt is !

Co-founder of Pegasus

Hope that being connected to it in someway does not place Egyptian  curses or black  magic on anyone who may upset or get on the wrong side of them ! 

"some sort of occult society" 

Probably  yes

[Eighthman]

If anyone doubts that psychic/magic stuff really exists, try a personal experiment. If you do it sincerely, with intensity, you will have your proof, in your own experience. What is this experiment?

Curse someone.  Find someone appropriately evil you feel strong negative emotions about. Now, meditate everyday in intense periods of personal emotion about what should happen to them. Like them getting hit by a car.

After a month of this daily routine, watch what bizarre and nasty things happen to your own life. You may feel terror that you cannot stop this and its 'blowback' into your life. The goofy Wicca folks who dance in the moonlight apparently have it right ( stuff comes back 3 X ).

Impressive as this is, it leaves you frustrated (and scared) as to looking for Positive effects, not synchronistic personal injury.  I did think that maybe it would work if you intensely wished for a Politician (insert Hillary, Trump, Cruz, Sanders as is your choice) To Be Equal To You : broke and unknown. Take that, you screwed-up Universe!

[astr0144]

Is the Phychic / Magic a topic that you have a main interest in or experience in what you have indicated ?

If anyone doubts that psychic/magic stuff really exists, try a personal experiment. If you do it sincerely, with intensity, you will have your proof, in your own experience. What is this experiment?

Is this something that you believe or had experience in  yourself ?

Curse someone.  Find someone appropriately evil you feel strong negative emotions about. Now, meditate everyday in intense periods of personal emotion about what should happen to them. Like them getting hit by a car.

Is that to suggest that the negative type mediation thoughts on someone else may come back to effect ones own self in a negative way ?

Not been aware of the 3 X come back..Other than maybe a myth.

After a month of this daily routine, watch what bizarre and nasty things happen to your own life. You may feel terror that you cannot stop this and its 'blowback' into your life. The goofy Wicca folks who dance in the moonlight apparently have it right ( stuff comes back 3 X ).

It would be concerning if any of us could do this and we are all been cursed for our past Sins..

but who knows ... that maybe the case..with Karma !

If possible Id prefer to avoid having others target or having to consider such things to get ones own back..

I know they say in the Bible Eye for an Eye...

Should we always take revenge ?  Are we weak if we dont ?

Some situations will in most cases appear beyond what some of us are capable of dealing with... that's the way I see things the older i get.. but in my teens I may have had little fears of such thoughts and believed that I could have delt with most things.

but How nieve / misled I must have been..

Fear certainly has a major controlling factor in every ones lives at some point...

and one try's to avoid such situations..and sadly for many .. they lead lesser quality lives..

Sometimes Paranoia can take over even when things are not really an issue... other times....we mess up and don't act in the right way to avoid issues.

Impressive as this is, it leaves you frustrated (and scared) as to looking for Positive effects, not synchronistic personal injury.  I did think that maybe it would work if you intensely wished for a Politician (insert Hillary, Trump, Cruz, Sanders as is your choice) To Be Equal To You : broke and unknown. Take that, you screwed-up Universe!

[Eighthman]

The things that I experienced in this 'curse' experiment were so improbable and strange and damaging to me that I would never do it again. I prayed and meditated to end it immediately.

There is another experiment I did that might be related, some years later.  I tried to 'manifest' my car as invisible to police. This was only intended as temporary because of a registration/salvage title situation. It seemed to work and I got my temporary inspection and registration sticker in my beat up Toyota window. I was happy I was 'home free'............until....

Within the ten day temp period, I was unexpectedly pulled over by a police officer who asked me a bunch of questions and offered no particular reason why I was being stopped. No probable cause at all, no ticket, just blind fishing. It was weird, as if my "invisibility" suddenly "flipped over" or reversed itself into the opposite! Never happened before or since.

So, yes, I'm interested in what the 'unwritten rules' of psychic effects are - and how I can use them effectively and safely!  As my experiments and the experiences from "A Journey Into Prayer" suggest, this stuff can get dangerous even if think you are 'in the right'. 

[space otter]

oh eigthman

you need to start an entirely different thread on that...I know there are a few on here from back a bit
so a question on an older thread  or new would be good.

but I must tell you that if you are looking for shortcuts to riches or such.. they do tend to go in ways you don't expect

and as Z kinda mentioned..your first lessons should be in protection before projection

[astr0144]

Thanks for your explanation/s on your Curse Experiment and other experiences.

The Occult is something that I know little about and maybe had been wary to consider looking into...be it Fear..past uncertainty to believe in it., ridicule..etc..

But my own thoughts about my own past experiences when I wondered if I became cursed..has always made me wonder...
as well as seeing stories about Egyptian Curses, Voodoos and some things of the Dark Side..

If one tries to ignore such things... does that help one..or are the ways to possibly counter the concerns of such things that can protect one or their loved ones.

It maybe that their is something in how the  power of our thoughts can determine things for us.

But as I have got / or we all get older , the more things that we become aware about and some we may think that we can illiminate as threats..

It maybe sometimes that we can also bring things on our selves by thinking about such stuff  that also may be a factor to be aware about...OR it all Maybe Pure Mysticism and not what we may have imagined.. Overall that was the stance I may have decided to try to take...but at times one still has situations occur that one questions...

I never used to believe in Ghosts until I had an experience with one...and had some other persons have such ones shortly after in a place I was worked,, and I did not see any of them being connected or as being possible hoaxs...

It may or may not be a topics worth investigating...

or a topic to compare or learn about others views and and experiences.. if one can find the time between other areas of interest...

There is a Mystic section if we needed to start a separate thread or maybe Sky Otter has an existing one she wants to refer to..


There also could be connections to all this within the Quantum World...and I recall there was some stuff posted about this by Cosmo somewhere....that looked very interesting but maybe also quite a hard topic to try to understand...

The things that I experienced in this 'curse' experiment were so improbable and strange and damaging to me that I would never do it again. I prayed and meditated to end it immediately.

[Eighthman]

I did try to manifest stock symbols to make $ , pre-2008.  I got it to work twice but that was it.

I once met Russell Targ at a weekend seminar and he showed us a tape on using RV to predict silver futures. The BBC did it and it later ran on PBS but you won't find any record whatsoever of it.  He said they kept trying (for charity) but couldn't repeat the initial $100K success.  He wrote the incident off to the "trickster" element in PSI research.

As to claimed Illuminati-style rituals practiced in the modern day, I wonder if any of it is serious - and does it "work". OTOH, maybe this stuff would 'work' across ages if lots of people keep it alive thru symbols.

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/284214/ghosts-more-likely-to-be-male-claims-study

As with the above, emotion may strangely play a big part in this topic.  ESP could be a survival mechanism triggered by intense fear, etc.  - which may help to explain why dull repeated prayers (such as for the British Royal Family) don't accomplish much.  As to ghosts, I think the above study might comport quite well with Buddhist ideas about karma and the importance of 'being chill' in the death process.

[space otter]

just for you guys...   sorry don't know how to make it larger....enjoy

http://www.dispatch.com/content/sections/opinion/beeler-cartoons/index.html

[Sinny]

You ain't seen nothing yet Have you seen the movie The Day After Tomorrow?  I recommend it

Oh, a new alien invasion movie is currently being promoted in the UK. Target of invasion, London.

[Dyna]

The 1951 movie "The Day the Earth Stood Still" was based on a real story

Have never heard anything about that before what gives you this impression?
One of my favorite movies!

[Sinny]

Have never heard anything about that before what gives you this impression?
One of my favorite movies!

'Venusians'   

[Eighthman]

I know we drifted off topic a bit...I wonder if Hillary is looking for leverage. Maybe she makes these public UFO comments as a veiled threat -"back off your email investigations or else I'll disclose". Desperate but what ammo does she have left?

In addition, accounts are surfacing that she may have severe head problems - weakness, headaches, maybe even the beginnings of dementia.  This may set up her future defense for multiple felonies as diminished capacity.

[zorgon]

Oh, a new alien invasion movie is currently being promoted in the UK. Target of invasion, London.

How nice But does it explain global warming?