Experts reveals just what it takes to build a time machine

[COSMO]

How you can REALLY go back to the future: Experts reveals just what it takes to build a time machine
Einstein's theory is if you want to slow down time you need to more fast
Our bodies can't survive stress going to future, but might going to the past
Spin a 100km long cylinder so fast it disrupts the fabric of space and time

First, you need a lot of money to buy a large cylinder.
When I say large, I mean very large, perhaps a 100km long.
The cylinder also needs to be at least the mass of the sun, but very densely packed together.
You then need to start it rotating, faster and faster, until it's rotating so fast that it starts to disturb the fabric of both space and time – and you would be able to detect a wash of gravity waves coming from this structure. 
If you can get round this squashing problem, however, approach the rotating cylinder and start following its spin – as you get closer, strange things will start to happen.
Your path, which normally inextricably moves you forward in time, changes, since moving around the cylinder in the direction of rotation will shift you back in time. 
To reset the movement to normal, simply move away from the cylinder, go back to Earth and you will be returned to the present – albeit a present in the past.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3462879/How-REALLY-future-Experts-reveals-just-takes-build-time-machine.html



Observations:

1.  We have EXPERTS on time travel!  I did not know that!  lol

2.  They say we need the mass of the sun rotating at high speeds to manipulate time.

3.  They say that all matter is drawn to each other because of distortions in space time.

Question...how does an atom with such a small amount of mass alter space time geometry enough to cause it to be attracted to other particles doing the same?

Doesn't the imply that even a tiny little atom has enough energy to bend space time and you do not need the mass of a sun?

See, that's a contradiction.  And...that's because the "attraction" is caused by the flow of ETHER(space time) into the subatomic black holes that are subatomic particles.  That is why such small amounts of "mass" can be drawn to each other.  Movement of matter in the ETHER creates a wave and it is the tendency of that wave to remain in motion that is inertia.  Gravity is a flow and inertia is a wave in the energetic dimension of time, the ETHER.  All things take place in TIME. 

Cosmo

[space otter]

1.  We have EXPERTS on time travel!  I did not know that!  lol

yep that was the first thought  when reading the title of the thread

[robomont]

head explodes while screaming   
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
for time to go backward the whole universe must move backwards and that aint gonna happen.

in other news,the us gov has hired a bunch of retarded people and gave them dr degrees in physics.

[ArMaP]

Looking at the way that article is written makes me think it's more of a personal article than a real newspaper article.

As I just skimmed the text and may have missed it, do they name the "experts" or is it just a word they use to give more "weight" to the article, as usual?

[robomont]

agreed Armap : )
there sure seems to be alot of science news garbage,. here lately.
or repeats of old science articles.

[Dyna]

head explodes while screaming   
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
for time to go backward the whole universe must move backwards and that aint gonna happen.

in other news,the us gov has hired a bunch of retarded people and gave them dr degrees in physics.

I thought the only movement back would be of the approaching object not the whole universe. I think they could just get close to a natural phenomenon easier than ever building one of their own.

[zorgon]

head explodes while screaming   
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
for time to go backward the whole universe must move backwards and that aint gonna happen.

What about light rays that travel backwards in time?

Allowing us to see possible futures?

[COSMO]

What about light rays that travel backwards in time?

Allowing us to see possible futures?

POSSIBLE futures!  Yes, we must keep that in "mind".   Don't forget that the universe does not really exist as we perceive it with our normal senses.  The underlying substrate is a quantum probability ocean and it is only upon observation that it resolves into the material reality we experience.  This is the ancient mystery that the Hindu masters describe in the Upanishads.  We live in Maya, a translation of that energetic universe, the eternal illumination that they call Brahman, the source of all.  If we think of how the universe behaves only in terms of our "normal" senses, then we will be in error.  I try to keep that in mind when I am thinking about "time travel".  How would that work in a universe that is really in a quantum probability state and transforms, faster than light, into the universe we perceive.  Would not all possibilities be "possible"?  Is there anything like linear time travel that we tend to think of?  I think that may not be the case and that the only thing that materially exists is the instant of now, the instant of the probability wave collapse, with all of time always existing in that energetic state, with no real material past or future, only NOW.  Just thinking...



Cosmo

[zorgon]

No I mean REAL lightwaves travelling backwards in time

"I don't understand . . .' " said Alice. "It's dreadfully confusing!"
"That's the effect of living backwards," the Queen said kindly: "it always makes one a little giddy at first- ''
"Living backwards!" Alice repeated in great astonishment. "I never
heard of such a thing!"
-Lewis Carroll

Imagine a mirror that reflects more light than was incident, that reflects a beam into the same direction regardless of the mirror's tilt, that eliminates image distortions by causing light rays to retrace their paths as if running backward in time, and that when looked at allows the observer to see absolutely nothing.

Science fiction, you say? Well, such mirrors have been the subject of intense investigation both here at Los Alamos and at other research laboratories around the world. Not only do they exist, but their practical applications may be far-reaching.

Project Looking Glass
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Project_Looking_Glass_LANL.html

[COSMO]

No I mean REAL lightwaves travelling backwards in time

"I don't understand . . .' " said Alice. "It's dreadfully confusing!"
"That's the effect of living backwards," the Queen said kindly: "it always makes one a little giddy at first- ''
"Living backwards!" Alice repeated in great astonishment. "I never
heard of such a thing!"
-Lewis Carroll

Imagine a mirror that reflects more light than was incident, that reflects a beam into the same direction regardless of the mirror's tilt, that eliminates image distortions by causing light rays to retrace their paths as if running backward in time, and that when looked at allows the observer to see absolutely nothing.

Science fiction, you say? Well, such mirrors have been the subject of intense investigation both here at Los Alamos and at other research laboratories around the world. Not only do they exist, but their practical applications may be far-reaching.

Project Looking Glass
Los Alamos National Laboratory
Through the Looking Glass with Phase Conjugation

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/03files/Project_Looking_Glass_LANL.html

Interesting Z.  But there is still an observer and the material of the mirrors and the images, which are all post collapse.  What are they actually seeing?  Time in the past or just a series of reflections of a moment of now? 

Whenever human observation is involved, what is observed is always post collapse.  That is one of the foundation blocks of the universe.  The probability nature of the universe is real.  We cannot bypass that and that is the tendency.   

The real meaning of the triad: (by skyfish)

The universe is a quantum universe and exists in multiple states at once, outside of time as we think of it.  It is in a state of superposition.  All particles exist in more than one state at a time.  Science.   

The 3 states of superposition:

1.  The energetic, timeless quantum ocean, the raw material of creation (Brahman)

2.  The intermediate realm, where the nature of the transition of this raw energy is determined, the template of creation, the tree of life.  This is the realm of the Clockwork Elves, singing creation into being according to the predetermined template.  This is why we all observe this common, material universe.  The template and it's aspects are represented by the Mandala.  Just as in the Mandala ceremony, it is swept away continuously in the act of destruction and creation.  Metaphor.   

3.  The material universe we live in.  It is the "result" of the observation of the collective unconsciousness.  The collective unconsciousness is non-local and it is the "receiver" of the signal of the second state as the universe we observe is created anew each Planck instant.   

That is why there is such a thing as quantum mechanics.  All things exist in superposition.  It is a QUANTUM universe.  It really is!

, in the quantum world superposition can mean something different entirely. At the quantum scale, particles can also be thought of as waves. Particles can exist in different states, for example they can be in different positions, have different energies or be moving at different speeds. But because quantum mechanics is weird, instead of thinking about a particle being in one state or changing between a variety of states, particles are thought of as existing across all the possible states at the same time. It's a bit like lots of waves overlapping each other. This situation is known as a superposition of states. If you're thinking in terms of particles, it means a particle can be in two places at once. This doesn't make intuitive sense but it's one of the weird realities of quantum physics.


http://www.physics.org/article-questions.asp?id=124



Where does the "past" or "future" exist in a quantum ocean that is ALL of time?

Cosmo

[robomont]

imho its just dc slowing down into an ac signal.
big debate over it last night at lop.brain got tired.we fought for over 24 hours.was great xercise but got no where.

[Dyna]

Falling from objective Truth (God) and accepting the (supposed) autonomous epistemic authority of his own desired perceptions, man chose to become his own god, but rather than achieving what he sought, his mind has become a prison for his own delusions, illusions and vanity.  As a result, man is trapped in a cyclical prison that I'm going to call the "mystery of the serpentine mirror."

http://jaysanalysis.com/2013/09/05/the-mystery-of-the-serpentine-mirror/

[robomont]

dyna ,your mirror quote and your second signature seem to be in controversy to each other.

[Dyna]

dyna ,your mirror quote and your second signature seem to be in controversy to each other.

How so?

[robomont]

, his mind has become a prison for his own delusions, illusions and vanity."Resolve to be thyself; and know that he who finds himself, loses his misery." ~ Matthew Arnold