The Milky Way Has Two Billion Earthlike Planets

[starwarp2000]

Our Milky Way galaxy may be home to at least two billion Earthlike planets, a new study based on initial data from from NASA's Kepler space telescope says -- a number that is actually far lower than many scientists anticipated, which could make it hard to find twin "Earths" in our galaxy.

Based on what Kepler's found so far, the study authors think that up to 2.7 percent of all sunlike stars in the Milky Way host so-called Earth analogs. As of this February, Kepler has confirmed 15 new planets and found an additional 1,235 planet candidates, including the smallest planet yet spied outside our solar system. Kepler will collect transit data for a minimum of three and a half years, allowing for a more complete planetary census at a later date.

"There are about a hundred billion sunlike stars within the Milky Way," said study co-author Joe Catanzarite, a scientist with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL). "Two percent of those might have Earth analogs, so you have two billion Earth analog planets in the galaxy," he added. "Then you start thinking about other galaxies. There are something like 50 billion, and if each one has two billion Earthlike planets, it's mind boggling."

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2011/03/milky-way-has-two-billion-earthlike-planets-but-how-many-earths.html

[Amaterasu]

Of course...  Ours is the only one with sentient life.  Never mind that the building blocks of life pervade the galaxy and beyond.  Right?  Aren't We told that by some book...?

Heh.  LOTS of opportunity for life, I say.  And evidence that life exists and has been amongst Us - and likely created Us genetically.

Thanks for the info, starwarp!

[rdunk]

Quote: "Then you start thinking about other galaxies. There are something like 50 billion, and if each one has two billion Earthlike planets, it's mind boggling."
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Can you, or anyone, think of anything relative to this "universe" that is "not" mind boggling??? Everything about it is "mind boggling" to me.

There is one thing I would guarantee you, nobody knows, within any respectable error of "guess", just how many earth-like planets there are in the universe. And my very fundamental basis for that statement, is that no one knows, within any respectable error of "guess", just how many stars are in the galaxies, and how many galaxies there are in the universe. 

Just to belabor that fact - - 50 billion galaxies is the number mentioned in the OP piece. Well, the number just kinda depends on where one goes to look for it. From what I see, the generally accepted number today is 100 billion to 200 billion galaxies in the universe. Then there is a German computer estimate of 500 billion.

Of course, there is a somewhat sticky point -  we really don't know just how big the universe is anyway!!

Mind boggling thoughts for me, besides the above:

* The most distant galaxy observed by Hubble is about 13.5 billion light years away, give or take. Well, if we can see that far in any direction, then that makes the "known universe" at least 27 billion light years in diameter, using Earth as the center point. A light year = 6 trillion miles prox., so then the "known universe" is 27 billion multiplied by 6 trillion to get total miles in diameter. We humans can understand/comprehend miles, but not that many! That would be a lot of miles! WOW!!! Mind boggling

* Seeing into the "universe past" - Mind boggling - even I can get this - Every time we look "out" at the stars, and galaxies, we are seeing "back into time", actually seeing into the past. So far we have looked into the past up to 13.5 billion years ago. That is because the "light" we see is the age of its distance from earth, in light years. So, any of us who believe we cannot see back into time, well that seems to prove that we can, in this situation.

Sometimes responses to what is seen "out there" is laughable, for the way it is reported. Often we see news articles about a new supernova that just happened and was photographed "last week". And they discuss it as if it did just happen, when in fact, if it is thousands or millions of light years away, then that is how far into the past they are now seeing it. For example, today's APOD (Astronomy Picture of the Day) has a pic of a warped disc spiral galaxy, that is said to be 150 million light years away. So, that does mean that what we are seeing in the pic, is into the far past of 150 million years ago.

A link to APOD - http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap120304.html

APOD archive -  http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html  - daily for seventeen years (for anyone who might not know about this website - just a fantastic place, for being "mind boggled")!

* And what is really mind boggling about this whole thing, is that we actually know pretty much next to nothing about the facts and truths of this universe. Mostly conjecture, speculation on scientific theories, and uninformed guesses.

Well that is just a few of my mind bogglers!!!!

[johnlear]

Quote: "Then you start thinking about other galaxies. There are something like 50 billion, and if each one has two billion Earthlike planets, it's mind boggling."
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Well that is just a few of my mind bogglers!!!!

The truth is that the universe is infinite. There was no beginning, no big bang and of course, no end or contraction. There are presently more than a billion times a billion earths similar to ours, some more advanced, some less.

Its really tough to imagine something that is infinite because someone always wants to know"Whats on the other side?"

There is no other side, it is infinite.

In terms of knowledge our earth here is pretty much at the bottom of the barrel. Not only can't we figure a lot of things out but we would rather develope new and mor efficient weapons to kill our fellow man.


The way I see it is there are 2 things wrong with waking people up.

One, when they hear the news they will just say thanks and go back to sleep again, so why  bother.

Or, two, they are going to think you are crazy, but will still go back to sleep again and you will have added another person to your list of people who think you are crazy.

The chances of you finding someone who is truly interested in what you are saying and genuinely thanks you for showing them the path out of the darkness is one in umpty ump godzillion.

And of the 7 billlion people using up air on our planet only 5 billion are actually human. The rest are aliens, robots, walk-ins and people like that.

Have a great Sunday.

[rdunk]

The truth is that the universe is infinite. There was no beginning, no big bang and of course, no end or contraction. There are presently more than a billion times a billion earths similar to ours, some more advanced, some less.

Its really tough to imagine something that is infinite because someone always wants to know"Whats on the other side?"

There is no other side, it is infinite.

Hi John! Thanks!! Yes, to me, the infinite aspect of the universe is probably the most "mind boggling". The only reason I didn't mention that in my prior post, is that someone, maybe Einstein, theorized that if you started out in a direction in space and continued, you would eventually come back to the starting point. I have no reason to believe that, but I also didn't want to get into a yea or nay discussion on it, so, I just didn't mention it.

Yes, the thought of infinity is literally pretty much beyond any true human comprehension. And what is funny, we don't understand it, but we are smack dab right in the "middle" of it, on this tiny planet, trying to "figger-out", with just a few of the real facts - with our "facts" often being in the eye of the beholder, the words of skeptics, and in hands of government!!

Another mind boggler, is why so many people are the way they are, as you described. Fascinating! Makes me think of the old pic of the monkey, with his hands over his eyes, ears, and mouth. Makes it difficult to communicate with anyone like that That monkey is a reality pic that pretty much defines one of self-love, self-interests, and self promotion, and not interested is what anyone else has to say.  Yes, let's let them be!!

rdunk

[Amaterasu]

In terms of knowledge our earth here is pretty much at the bottom of the barrel. Not only can't we figure a lot of things out but we would rather develope new and mor efficient weapons to kill our fellow man.

Actually...  It is the war profiteers who are involved in that.  Virtually all Humans are not interested in that except as a way to put food on the table.  The profiteers pay Them to do the dirty work.

The way I see it is there are 2 things wrong with waking people up.

One, when they hear the news they will just say thanks and go back to sleep again, so why  bother.

Or, two, they are going to think you are crazy, but will still go back to sleep again and you will have added another person to your list of people who think you are crazy.

The more who awaken the closer to the tipping point We are.  Being discouraged because at the moment, there are few who are awakening is the death of Us.  I will never stop trying to bring awareness.

The chances of you finding someone who is truly interested in what you are saying and genuinely thanks you for showing them the path out of the darkness is one in umpty ump godzillion.

I say that is not true.  I have received a number of thanks - and Those who thanked Me have joined the ranks.  Either I am phenomenally lucky, or Your assessment is a wee bit off...  [smile]

And of the 7 billlion people using up air on our planet only 5 billion are actually human. The rest are aliens, robots, walk-ins and people like that.

Of those two billion, a fair percentage are still Beings...  Sentient, sapient...  And My work is for any Being who is required to be a slave.  I wish to free ALL Beings, Human or otherwise.

Have a great Sunday.

You, too, John.  [smile]

[Pimander]

Or, two, they are going to think you are crazy, but will still go back to sleep again and you will have added another person to your list of people who think you are crazy.

There is so much truth in this.  I have only avoided being labeled a crazy in daily life by being measured about who I tell much of this material to.

It is reaching a point where I am finding it tough right now....  How long can I keep an online persona separate from the real world persona when the online persona is closer to the real me?  How do I publish a book in the real world and keep the personas separate?

Answers would be appreciated.

[sky otter]

How long can I keep an online persona separate from the real world persona when the online persona is closer to the real me?

i think the answer is how long do you want to be a split personality
are there any real benefits to it anymore
or has it gone to mostly cons



How do I publish a book in the real world and keep the personas separate?

does  your persona appear in the book?..does your persona change the relevancy of what you have to say?

is it social pressure or something else that is making you hesitate to combine yourself?

..do you plan on being any different than you are now?..like maybe wearing an alum hat to work or something?

[Pimander]

My reason is simple.  Politics.  If I run for office, this persona is a liability.  Not a massive issue right now but could become so again in the future.

For me it about managing the situation.  A lot of business online that I do is about trust, but I am in a position where I am very cautious about revealing who I am.  It is hard to trust someone when you don't really know who they are....

The conclusion I have drawn is that I simply have to keep the personas (personae?) separate until one or none of them becomes my primary concern.  At the moment that is neither but I imagine that the balance will tip one way eventually.  If the online work takes over then the real me can integrate.  If the political figure does then I'm afraid Pimander will be a lot quieter for a few years.  I fear it isn't good for me psychologically but what choice do I have?

[sky otter]

 
what choice do you have...hummmmmmmmmmm..it's one of those very good questions that only you can answer..
i do understand the politic thing..hubby is a councilman here..very small boro..not a big deal
had to say that before the story i want to share..cause to this day it cracks me up

hubby is very conservative in what he tells about some things that have happened around here
while i am not...
don't get me wrong..i don't go down the street yelling about seeing ufo's or anything but i am not shy in talking about them if someone else starts the conversation

story
we are at the annual sit-down drees-up banquet..lots of areas represented and speeches and stuff..
someone at the next table started it..about one of the history ? geo ?   / programs on
ancient astronuats...
before  long the whole room (about 180 or so folks) were loudly
talking about what they had seen and who really knew what in the kecksburg case (very near here) and the platonium that was missing from numec..right now in a gov clean up that has gone from 44 m to 250 m...and did anyone believe so and so actually saw a bigfoot or this other so and so who saw some kind of lights in the sky and..and ..and..
people moving from table to table..standing in groups ..exchanging stories and thoughts

you can only imagine how gleeful i was that the governing bodies all had something to say
and no one was pointing fingers that anyone else was a nut job..
that was last years..and i really am looking forward to this next one in april..cause the monthly local meetings have been beyond friendly and vocal ...local gov stuff and then..what have you seen questions..

soooooooooooooooooooo..just wanted to let you know you might be very surprized at the real general public's view and acceptance of all this woo-woo stuff...

maybe there is a local or close by storry that can start the conversational ball rolling..and there you will be..a hit with all kinds of info

[Pimander]

Your little anecdote gives me some encouragement for the future.  Thanks for that.   In local politics, you're most likely right,  I'd be safe to "come out".  In regional or national the media would crucify me, unfortunately.  My brand of direct challenging politics is already controversial. 

If I turn my back completely on politics it might be the release I need.  Maybe in a couple of years.....  For now it's Dan Pimander - split personality and all - I'm afraid.

[sky otter]

 

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh..
maybe you should start with a little change
instead of saying..i'm afraid..change it to i'm fearless...even if only in your own head

one of my very favorite sayings is
the only mind you can change is your own

however you move forward..best of luck to ya

[zorgon]

The chances of you finding someone who is truly interested in what you are saying and genuinely thanks you for showing them the path out of the darkness is one in umpty ump godzillion.

One of my teachers once told me that if he but had ONE student that truly learned his skill, his life would be complete...

Is that not enough?



I have come to the conclusion that waking the sheep is not a good idea... they are not ready to be awake. If you take them away from their current Shepherd... they will simply be lost and easy pray for the next Shepherd. This is why cults spring up everywhere... this is why dictators get as far as they do.

Leave the sleeping ones be... just reach out to those whose eyes are actually open. It may not be many... but it will be enough.

[zorgon]

Actually...  It is the war profiteers who are involved in that.  Virtually all Humans are not interested in that except as a way to put food on the table.  The profiteers pay Them to do the dirty work.

Ah yes... but when someone else is taking that food off your table... what then?

The more who awaken the closer to the tipping point We are.  Being discouraged because at the moment, there are few who are awakening is the death of Us.  I will never stop trying to bring awareness.

I disagree... awakening people that are not prepared to deal with reality is dangerous... it is like giving a child a nuclear device and sending it out to play. Awareness without wisdom can be the end of our race. Jesus told us if we believe, we could move a mountain, Yoda told Luke the same thing with his ship....  Now imagine tomorrow everyone in the world was suddenly aware of this ability. What do you think would happen?

Awakening must be accompanied by guidance, to use the new knowledge wisely. Unfortunately it is human kinds nature to slip to the dark side to easily.

Earth is a Kindergarten... there is no death, there is only infinity.  They will all awaken in time... it cannot be forced... Seek out those who are ready instead

[zorgon]

There is so much truth in this.  I have only avoided being labeled a crazy in daily life by being measured about who I tell much of this material to.

This is wise. There is no point sharing it with those who are not listening. And unlike John most of us don't have a famous career that allows us to get away with it But I have also noticed the curtain being drawn shut again... Forums vanishing, website info literally disappearing, so much hoaxing and mixing up everything so no one can see the tree for the forest.  Even here, where we hope to gather the few... we already see some clashes appearing.

There is too much info, there is too much confusion and there is no way to verify any truth... Proof of that is in the three forum questions I posed.. What color is the sky?  Well blue is the expected answer, but it can be gray, or any color of the rainbow at sunset. What color is the grass? Well green, but its greener on the other side of the tracks... and brown in the winter. In Kentucky its blue. So you see our dilemma... there is no single truth that covers everything

It is reaching a point where I am finding it tough right now....  How long can I keep an online persona separate from the real world persona when the online persona is closer to the real me?

Well you can do it my way I simply brought Zorgon to life... I have been seen going to the Casinos with swords strapped on for dinner. No one thinks I am crazy anymore They say you cannot be a King in America, yet I have a letter addressed to King Zorgon by Clark County delivered by the US Mail

I also have an alter ego... Omar Kharim ali Allah Akbar... used him when I was with the dancing girls

How do I publish a book in the real world and keep the personas separate?

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