Water, atmosphere and life on the Moon

[vril-ya]

we have been informed about water, air and life on the moon since the time of early contactees like adamski, nelson, menger etc.. but their claims were ridiculed and rejected.

i started a thread on this subject here two years ago only to be met with skepticism and even attacks and insults. i knew that truth was on my side, but also that time is not ripe for it.

i present few clippings from books and newspapers, few photos and apollo 17 footage of 180km wide tsiolkovsky on the far side.

moon is not only densely populated, but there is air, water and life (mostly in equatorial zone).

feel free to post you opinions and to contribute if you have more info on the subject.

george adamski



buck nelson



rolf telano



hatton



newspaper clips

http://s27.postimg.org/iuaoyqw3l/moon.jpg

tsiolkovsky (screenshots from vladimir trrezinski lecture)







tsiolkovsky by apollo 17



and finally, my latest discovery, mare marginis by chang'e 5.
best to be viewd in full screen. just look at the surface everywhere.

http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/165019

feel free to post your opinion, weather you are convinced or not.

[zorgon]

i present few clippings from books and newspapers, few photos and apollo 17 footage of 180km wide tsiolkovsky on the far
tsiolkovsky by apollo 17

LOL That is my video

[vril-ya]

i just dug few new shots of tsiolkovsky by lunar orbiters from this video:

[ArMaP]

My opinion? If the Moon had air we would see a difference in the refraction when the light from the Sun (or another star, or a planet) passes where the atmosphere would be on the edge on the Moon's disk, in the same way Mars Express uses the light from stars to analyse Mars' atmosphere.

[rdunk]

Aren't we humans a crazy lot? Here we are, reaching for the planets and for the stars, and we really don't know beans about our own Moon. Our exploring ethic is drastically lacking- - unless of course.........if we really do have "alien-reason" for stopping our actual initial aggressive "boots on the ground" exploration of the Moon (real or fake?)!!

If there is actual water on the moon, why would  it look "black" in the pics, as in most of these pics? Maybe anything pooled on the Moon that looks black........could be "black gold" (oil)!!

"If"..... the Moon originated as a piece broken from the Earth, then the Moon possibly/probably does contain much water under the surface!! Wouldn't it be nice to know what is what about this subject? And do we not have the technical capability to fairly easily make that determination? Well, if we do not, China probably will tell us that answer to that question before too long!

[vril-ya]

it appears black in the low quality b&w photos taken by lunar orbiter. fred steckling photographed a lake with his private plane to show this comparison as seen here:





moreover, you are ignorning the above posted close ups of the lake from trezinski lecture, it is clearly not black but green.

according to a book "thioouba prophecy" which i believe to be absolutely credible, moon did not originate as a part of earth, but it came from another solar system and was captured into orbit some 500,000 years ago.

Aren't we humans a crazy lot? Here we are, reaching for the planets and for the stars, and we really don't know beans about our own Moon. Our exploring ethic is drastically lacking- - unless of course.........if we really do have "alien-reason" for stopping our actual initial aggressive "boots on the ground" exploration of the Moon (real or fake?)!!

If there is actual water on the moon, why would  it look "black" in the pics, as in most of these pics? Maybe anything pooled on the Moon that looks black........could be "black gold" (oil)!!

"If"..... the Moon originated as a piece broken from the Earth, then the Moon possibly/probably does contain much water under the surface!! Wouldn't it be nice to know what is what about this subject? And do we not have the technical capability to fairly easily make that determination? Well, if we do not, China probably will tell us that answer to that question before too long!

[rdunk]

moreover, you are ignorning the above posted close ups of the lake from trezinski lecture, it is clearly not black but green

That is why I said "most"...........

[ArMaP]

it appears black in the low quality b&w photos taken by lunar orbiter. fred steckling photographed a lake with his private plane to show this comparison as seen here:

Your second image, being hosted on ATS, is not visible to non-members of ATS, as they now do not allow hot-linking to the images hosted on their servers.
Here's the image from the Pegasus gallery, so everyone can see it.

[funbox]

Your second image, being hosted on ATS, is not visible to non-members of ATS, as they now do not allow hot-linking to the images hosted on their servers.
Here's the image from the Pegasus gallery, so everyone can see it.

so if I was a member of sheeppencity*ats*  would be able to see the above missing picture on this site ?

is not visible to non-members of ATS

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[ArMaP]

so if I was a member of sheeppencity*ats*  would be able to see the above missing picture on this site ?

I'm not sure if you have to be a member or if you just have to go to ATS first and then point your browser to the image, so the browser "sees" your previous request as coming from ATS.

[funbox]

I'm not sure if you have to be a member or if you just have to go to ATS first and then point your browser to the image, so the browser "sees" your previous request as coming from ATS.

that sounds like a big security hole on their part

but then considering the evolution the site has gone through over the years ..

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[ArMaP]

that sounds like a big security hole on their part

It's not a security hole, it's just to reduce load on the servers by not serving images for requests from outside their domain.

[vril-ya]

i corresponded with john lear 2 years ago regarding this subject. he believes there is an atmosphere and human population, but for the tsiolkovsly he couldn't accept it was a lake and said, quote, "we believe it (refering to island near the western shore) is a spaceship that dragged the moon into orbit".

[ArMaP]

it appears black in the low quality b&w photos taken by lunar orbiter.

Then why not use the colour photos from Clementine?

This one was made with the 415 nm channel for red, the 750 nm for green and the 900 nm channel for blue.

[zorgon]

Your second image, being hosted on ATS, is not visible to non-members of ATS, as they now do not allow hot-linking to the images hosted on their servers.
Here's the image from the Pegasus gallery, so everyone can see it.

Yes ATS should be SHOT for that Because they wanted everyone to post their pictures on ATS gallery  then now they block people seeing them  Fortunately I never used their service for our photos