Where On Earth Are NASA’s Rovers Sending Pictures From? Devon Island, Canada

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It's not a question of texture, it's more the general shape, as rocks shaped by water erosion have a different shape, more rounded or, at least, without any sharp edges or corners, while rocks shaped by wind erosion may have smooth faces and even some strange curves but may have sharp edges.

then its a question of edges faces and vertices as ive already mentioned, geometry can be extrapolated and then manipulated

Sure it's feasible, but then why even have physical rovers? The work they would need to make Earth photos look like they were taken on Mars would more more or less the same as if they created a whole CGI version of Mars, no physical rovers needed.

true , but then you have to consider convincing the  scientific community *those outside of black ops * a huge group*. there has to be the false  process of creation of the rover , launch etc etc. quite a job , but one that's necessary. unless you want them to blow their cover , two missions operating in tandem one to cover the other

I am a programmer and I don't trust completely automated work done by programs.

you think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field? 

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then its a question of edges faces and vertices as ive already mentioned, geometry can be extrapolated and then manipulated

I never said it couldn't.

true , but then you have to consider convincing the  scientific community *those outside of black ops * a huge group*. there has to be the false  process of creation of the rover , launch etc etc. quite a job , but one that's necessary. unless you want them to blow their cover , two missions operating in tandem one to cover the other

And what about the published results? Photos are just a small part of the data gathered, the one that common people understand (maybe), but there are also the spectrometry results, chemical analysis results, etc., etc..
Are they faking the photos and publishing real results from the other experiments or are they faking everything?

And what about the orbiters? We have photos from those that show the rovers, are those also fake?

In my opinion, it would be almost as big a task to fake everything as to really make the missions.

you think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field?

Do you have any experience in this field?

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And what about the published results? Photos are just a small part of the data gathered, the one that common people understand (maybe), but there are also the spectrometry results, chemical analysis results, etc., etc..

and what of them ?.. why would everything need to be faked? wouldn't it be easier just to take out the things you don't want from the patsy mission and feed the rest to the scientific community?

And what about the orbiters? We have photos from those that show the rovers, are those also fake?

In my opinion, it would be almost as big a task to fake everything as to really make the missions.

do you think that as a species we've ever been bothered about waste, history is resplendent with examples of material and human expenditure on massive levels ..

what makes you think such colossus efforts are not being made now ?

especially concidering the magnitude of the secret and its effects upon us as a species

Do you have any experience in this field?

would observing the multitude of cattle mutilations, and the scars left behind by such unknown tools constitute experience of the field ?

or just observations of a very efficient mobile medical veternary unit ?

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and what of them ?.. why would everything need to be faked? wouldn't it be easier just to take out the things you don't want from the patsy mission and feed the rest to the scientific community?

Are you thinking about parallel missions, one real on Mars and one fake on Earth? If you do, what do you think could be the reasons for that?

what makes you think such colossus efforts are not being made now ?

especially concidering the magnitude of the secret and its effects upon us as a species

I suppose that's because I don't really see a reason for doing it.

would observing the multitude of cattle mutilations, and the scars left behind by such unknown tools constitute experience of the field ?

or just observations of a very efficient mobile medical veternary unit ?

What's that got to do with programming?

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Are you thinking about parallel missions, one real on Mars and one fake on Earth? If you do, what do you think could be the reasons for that?
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if they are, its because the environment up there at times is so busy with stuff they don't want us to see, they deem it easier to use studio Devon island to fill in, whilst the rover passes on by whatever extremity its passing... maybe

I suppose that's because I don't really see a reason for doing it.

neither do you lie, which might leave you vulnerable to those that choose to, not only because they see it necessary  , but also  because they have no choice

What's that got to do with programming?

what has programming got to do with requests to your thinking on this question

you think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field?

so , ArmaP you must have access to experimental technologies that havnt been made public

care to explain?

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That part you ignored in your answer, as usual: changing all rocks.

McMurdo Dry Valleys could account for some Chile's Atacama Desert.

If humans had a base on Mars they could use some real pictures also right.

One added bonus all the money supposedly spent could be taken to help run Mars City.

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McMurdo Dry Valleys could account for some.

you've seen as many mars pictures as me matey, do you recall the endless rocky fields we've seen already , then there would be intermission of features ,like  dingo gap etcetc , then rocky fields then feature etcetc.. but there would always be periods of rocks and that infamous picture of mount sharp in background..

but ive not seen McMurdo .. I go look for comparison

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you've seen as many mars pictures as me matey, do you recall the endless rocky fields we've seen already , then there would be intermission of features ,like  dingo gap etcetc , then rocky fields then feature etcetc.. but there would always be periods of rocks and that infamous picture of mount sharp in background..

but ive not seen McMurdo .. I go look for comparison

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Also this

It's hard to tell where real locations end and CGI begins in The Martian. For the real part, mountains in Jordan stand in convincingly for their counterparts on Mars; a farm vehicle plays the part of the Mars rover. Those robust wheels are necessary to withstand Earth's surface gravity, which is nearly three times that on Mars.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/outthere/2015/10/16/the-designer-behind-the-greatest-fake-mars-mission-ever/#.Vzc77exViko
McMurdo (red mine)

http://serc.carleton.edu/vignettes/collection/37807.html

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Also this

It's hard to tell where real locations end and CGI begins in The Martian. For the real part, mountains in Jordan stand in convincingly for their counterparts on Mars; a farm vehicle plays the part of the Mars rover. Those robust wheels are necessary to withstand Earth's surface gravity, which is nearly three times that on Mars.
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/outthere/2015/10/16/the-designer-behind-the-greatest-fake-mars-mission-ever/#.Vzc77exViko

indeed . these days massive environments can be modelled and made to breathe, take the gaming industry for massive environments , mmpog's etc .. add existing earth environs to the mix and anything can be recreated.. I recently heard of a game that infinitely propagates whole worlds and environments and animals fauna etc  in real time.. ill go see if I can find it

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ahh yes here it is

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/529136/no-mans-sky-a-vast-game-crafted-by-algorithms/


interview with one of the creators


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if they are, its because the environment up there at times is so busy with stuff they don't want us to see, they deem it easier to use studio Devon island to fill in, whilst the rover passes on by whatever extremity its passing... maybe

Then they would need for Devon island to look more like the two locations where they have rovers now, so they could mix real images with fake ones.

neither do you lie, which might leave you vulnerable to those that choose to, not only because they see it necessary  , but also  because they have no choice

There's always a choice, even if you don't like it.

what has programming got to do with requests to your thinking on this question

you think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field?

I thought it had, as you posted as an answer to my "I am a programmer and I don't trust completely automated work done by programs".

so , ArmaP you must have access to experimental technologies that havnt been made public

care to explain?

Only my own experimental software, like the image search engine that I have neglected for too long.

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McMurdo Dry Valleys could account for some Chile's Atacama Desert.

Both those places have the same signs of water erosion, and Atacama desert has vegetation.

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Then they would need for Devon island to look more like the two locations where they have rovers now, so they could mix real images with fake ones.

why ?, when they could just add geometry to it to make it so ,, think canvas as ive already mentioned

if it looks like it and its accessibility makes it a good location to use as a base , why not ?

I thought it had, as you posted as an answer to my "I am a programmer and I don't trust completely automated work done by programs".

see what confusion happens when you answer a question with a question ?

Only my own experimental software, like the image search engine that I have neglected for too long.

indeed , you put 'negating unpopular thoughts' before your own personal ambitions,, how unselfish of you

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ahh yes here it is

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/529136/no-mans-sky-a-vast-game-crafted-by-algorithms/

Too bad I can't play it, it looks interesting.

But those type of thing is not as hard to make as it may look, as the code that creates the environment only has to follow a fixed set of rules and apply those to the randomly generated data.

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Too bad I can't play it, it looks interesting.

But those type of thing is not as hard to make as it may look, as the code that creates the environment only has to follow a fixed set of rules and apply those to the randomly generated data.

yes the gaming industry .. all just for a bit of fun really , make a shed load of cash too.. now apply a real cause, and try to imagine what more could be achieved

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