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Started by astr0144, May 11, 2016, 06:19:01 AM

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ArMaP

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 04:16:20 PM
why ?, when they could just add geometry to it to make it so ,, think canvas as ive already mentioned
Then why the need for a physical location? Why not do it all in a computer?

Quotesee what confusion happens when you answer a question with a question ?
It's worse when people quote something and then act as if they didn't.

Quoteindeed , you put 'negating unpopular thoughts' before your own personal ambitions,, how unselfish of you :D
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by 'negating unpopular thoughts'. ???
As for my ambitions, I don't really think I have any.

funbox

QuoteThen why the need for a physical location? Why not do it all in a computer?

ide imagine that has something to do with day night cycle. having the sun and atmosphere flooding from the horizon makes too realistic a backdrop than one can achieve via cgi, from my own understanding of creating sun cycles and atmospheres.

not to say they cannot be achieved and achieved well in pure cgi , but .. to me they don't hit the button of ultra realistic.

QuoteIt's worse when people quote something and then act as if they didn't.
I asked you a question and you answered with a question .. that made you fair game :D

now answer the intial question and ill be more considered :D

Quote'negating unpopular thoughts'

you don't see much about mars being faked by cgi and earth locations on the news , so ide hardly call it popular thougts

funbox




Dyna

Easily removed the sparse vegetation and ice. there are iceless locations no person ever gets to see they are like this area the driest places on earth.
Also valley of the Moon in Jordan is Mars like.

Mars

Earth


Friedmann valley

Jaros beacon valley

Taylor Glacier


QuoteWind is an important mechanism of erosion in the Dry Valleys. Strong, cold "katabatic" winds from the polar plateau blow down the valleys and pick up dust, which abrades the rocks and carves them into bizarre shapes.
http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/htmlsite/master.html?http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/htmlsite/0705/0705_feature.html
Not really a question of could it be done now days only if it is or has been done I think.



http://matt-waydownsouth.blogspot.com/

Jordan Wadi Rum


we even have many places with "blueberries"


My pick is the Asgard Range


There is weird dunes here in the glaciers areas also  :)
Mars
http://s20.postimg.org/xg7ypyjql/dune.jpg
EARTH
http://s20.postimg.org/lfmip8cbx/IMG_3404.jpg
Quotekawelch in Antarctica
kawelchinantarctica.blogspot.com400 × 300Search by image
We had a great flight over the Asgard Range and Wright Valley and then flew into Victoria Valley. It seems like a strange combination to see sand dunes
http://kawelchinantarctica.blogspot.com/
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rdunk

This post seems to me to be an absolute waste of time and energy for you intelligent guys!! I suppose there is nothing that somebody cannot propose to be an act of conspiracy! There is absolutely no value to ANYBODY anywhere to fake the Nasa Mars Rovers. Maybe Mars is not even a real planet  - HUH?? And of course, if the Rovers do not exist, then should we not assume that the Mars Orbiters are also a figment of someone's imagination for conspiracy reasons??

Of course "rocks and hills" look like "rocks and hills" most everywhere they are photographed, so should we be surprised that similarities in natural stuff can possibly be found on different planetary bodies?

No, I wil continue to assume that the Rovers are in full operation, as advertised by NASA! And I do say that, even with my also assumption that NASA et al does "screw" with the actual Rover photos. My assumption of the reality of the Rovers is, I have still "seen" too much "stuff" in the Rover photos to know they are not faked!

One other point - if the Rovers are not real, then the Mars Orbiter photos which actually show the Rovers on the surface of Mars must be faked too - HUH??

                                                                       

ArMaP

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 04:40:11 PM
I asked you a question and you answered with a question .. that made you fair game :D
I answered with a question because programming is relatively independent from the computer technology in which it runs.

Quoteyou think that black op Programmes and computer technology is identical to your tinkering's in the field?
I don't know, I haven't seen any black op software, but if I did then there isn't much difference.

Quoteyou don't see much about mars being faked by cgi and earth locations on the news , so ide hardly call it popular thougts
Well, I was never a fan of popularity contests. :)

ArMaP

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 05:09:20 PM
Easily removed the sparse vegetation and ice. there are iceless locations no person ever gets to see they are like this area the driest places on earth.
Also valley of the Moon in Jordan is Mars like.
As I said before, although those areas are similar, all of them show signs of strong water erosion, while Mars shows almost none.

funbox

do you believe we have and are currently being visited by advanced Alien being rdunk ?

funbox

funbox

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 06:13:55 PM
I answered with a question because programming is relatively independent from the computer technology in which it runs.
I don't know, I haven't seen any black op software, but if I did then there isn't much difference.
Well, I was never a fan of popularity contests. :)

sorry about that , I thought you was being evasive , but you did answer in the next quote down,

QuoteI don't know, I haven't seen any black op software, but if I did then there isn't much difference

difference.. to know difference is to understand each part .. or do you mean something else

QuoteWell, I was never a fan of popularity contests. :)

what has your ego got to to do with mass trains of thought

funbox

ArMaP

Quote from: funbox on May 14, 2016, 06:49:51 PM
difference.. to know difference is to understand it part .. or do you mean something else
What I mean is that if I didn't think of it as black op software then it's not much different from common software. Unless it was made to look like common software. :)

Quotewhat has your ego got to to do with mass trains of thought
What I meant was that as I never thought much of popularity it's natural that I don't mind having unpopular thoughts/opinions.

Dyna

Quote from: rdunk on May 14, 2016, 06:06:01 PM
This post seems to me to be an absolute waste of time and energy for you intelligent guys!! I suppose there is nothing that somebody cannot propose to be an act of conspiracy! There is absolutely no value to ANYBODY anywhere to fake the Nasa Mars Rovers. Maybe Mars is not even a real planet  - HUH?? And of course, if the Rovers do not exist, then should we not assume that the Mars Orbiters are also a figment of someone's imagination for conspiracy reasons??


I have always been fascinated by how strongly each person feels toward their pet beliefs-disbeliefs.

The ones who can spend time looking for grounded saucers but not imagine a conspiracy involving mars, persons who can believe what some find outlandish but bulk at chemtrails  :)

Personally I believe nothing, I think about everything, and investigate everything in the hopes that in the end some of us can find proof one way or another.
Until such time I will keep an equally open mind to any possibility and I don't see how that can be a bad thing with so many proven secrets and lies that have been perpetuated against the public over the years.
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Dyna

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 06:15:33 PM
As I said before, although those areas are similar, all of them show signs of strong water erosion, while Mars shows almost none.
Dry places on earth look the same as Mars. Mars was once bathed in water.
Mars does have water erosion.

QuoteDry processes – especially on Mars, where large regions have been bone-dry for many millions of years – can often create the same effects on the landscape as those caused by running water. Windblown Martian sand and repetitive dry landslides can etch rock in much the same way as liquid water, given enough time. But the feature seen above in Terby seem to planetary scientists to be most likely the result of liquid erosion...
http://www.universetoday.com/85479/more-evidence-of-liquid-erosion-on-mars/
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ArMaP

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 07:36:04 PM
Dry places on earth look the same as Mars.
That's what I have been trying to say, the places look similar, but when we look at the rocks up close we see the difference in how they were eroded.

QuoteMars was once bathed in water.
Mars does have water erosion.
Yes, Mars has signs of water erosion in some places, that's why I said that "Mars shows almost none", and I was talking about the rocks, not about large areas, I should have been clearer about that. :)

Dyna

Quote from: ArMaP on May 14, 2016, 07:56:02 PM
That's what I have been trying to say, the places look similar, but when we look at the rocks up close we see the difference in how they were eroded.
Yes, Mars has signs of water erosion in some places, that's why I said that "Mars shows almost none", and I was talking about the rocks, not about large areas, I should have been clearer about that. :)

But what I just read is that they are indeed eroded the same way and by the same processes.
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Dyna

Quote from: Dyna on May 14, 2016, 07:36:04 PM
Dry places on earth look the same as Mars. Mars was once bathed in water.
Mars does have water erosion.
http://www.universetoday.com/85479/more-evidence-of-liquid-erosion-on-mars/
Dunes
QuoteThe rover will face the desolate Atacama Desert in northern Chile, one of the most similar to Marte.Siendo one of the dry land Earth lugaresmás landscapes, this desert devoid of any vegetation and soils of reddish-brown and stones, make it look even more like Mars.

Another one of the dry valley mars looks :D

http://www.startres.net/el-rover-que-la-esa-enviara-a-marte-sera-probado-en-el-desierto-de-atacama/

AhHa Found it! ;D

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/3772663434/photos/1886295/
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Dyna

http://schwehr.org/blog/archives/2008-06.html

The driest parts of Chile's Atacama desert get rain once every few
decades, yet microbial life exists a mere 8 to 12 inches below the
parched terrain. Researcher Jay Quade, shown here in a test pit,
samples the Mars-like landscape for soil carbonates.  Credit:
Julio L. Betancourt, U.S. Geological Survey.

In truth, the similarities between the Atacama and Mars are striking.
The surface of Mars has apparently been dry for millions or even
billions of years.  But the driest "absolute desert" region of the
Atacama is not much moister; it rains there maybe once every other
decade, though nobody bothers to measure it.  In fact, the desiccated
vista of dirt and rocks is so Mars-like that NASA uses the area as a
model for the Red Planet.
.
Yet despite its inhospitable qualities, a team of Arizona scientists
has discovered microbial life about a foot below the rough
terrain. "We found life, we can culture it, and we can extract and
look at its DNA," said Raina Maier, an environmental microbiologist at
the University of Arizona in Tuscon and co-author of the work.
.
This finding, published as a letter in the November 19, 2004 issue of
the journal Science, contradicts a previous report asserting that the
Atacama's absolute desert is too dry to support life and is
essentially sterile.



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