Coming to a street near you, the lights that keep you awake and could make u ill

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Coming to a street near you - the lights that keep you awake and could make people ill...

I just walked outside my house after I thought that there was a UFO shining thru the Front door...

What did I see ? without any prior warning !

The Day before there was the long term Street  yellowish Street Lights..

Now they are replaced by this !  VERY Bright lights...that look like UFOs..





DO they have cameras and Microphones in them one may wonder ?

Does anyone else have these in their Streets as yet ?

Don't know if its a Coincidence but I did not sleep well at all last Night...with headaches and facial / neck / tooth pains..

Councils claim LED lights use less energy than conventional sodium bulbs




Hounslow council agree to dim lights after complaints from residents .But the local authority won't replace the 16,000 lights across the borough Bury council in Manchester plan to change 11,000 lights by 2017

Similar schemes underway in parts of Blackburn, Birmingham and Glasgow However, scientists claim that LED lights can disrupt sleep patterns LED lamps can also leave some patches of street and pavement almost entirely unlit — and potentially vulnerable to criminals
By ALICE-AZANIA JARVIS
PUBLISHED: 01:45, 22 April 2014 | UPDATED: 11:38, 22 April 2014
     
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When Andy Richards saw a dazzling light beaming through his bedroom window, his first thought was of alien invasion. 'It was like The Day Of The Triffids,' he says. 'This brilliant white glare.'
Opening his curtains, he realised the source was more mundane. It came from the street light outside the two-bedroom home he shares with his wife Kate in Chiswick, West London.
Unbeknown to the couple, Hounslow council had installed LED lamp-heads on the street lights along their quiet residential road. The gentle, golden glow of the old lamps has been replaced by a harsh beam which, they say, makes it impossible for them to sleep.
Not such a bright idea: One of the controversial new LED street lights
Not such a bright idea: One of the controversial new LED street lights

So desperate have the couple become, they have taped a large pieces of black cardboard to their windows.
'It's like a World War II blackout,' says Andy, a 61-year-old record producer, who has lived on the street for 25 years. 'It was the only thing we could do. We've had three miserable weeks without sleep.'



The council claims LED lights were chosen because they use less energy, so they are cheaper to operate and more environmentally friendly than conventional sodium bulbs.

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After several weeks of pestering from Andy — he started texting local councillor Colin Ellar, a proponent of the new system, at 2am 'so that he knew what it was like to go without sleep' — the council has agreed to dim the lights for a trial period.
However, despite the protestations of the Richardses and their neighbours, the council won't be reconsidering its plan to replace almost 16,000 lights across the borough. And Hounslow isn't the only council eagerly embracing LED street lights. Across Britain, local authorities have fallen for the new 'energy efficient' lighting.
Bury council in Manchester has announced plans to change 11,000 street lights on 1,850 side-roads throughout the borough by 2017.
Scheme: Bury council in Manchester has announced plans to change 11,000 street lights on 1,850 side-roads throughout the borough by 2017
Scheme: Bury council in Manchester has announced plans to change 11,000 street lights on 1,850 side-roads throughout the borough by 2017
Similar schemes are under way at Bassetlaw in Nottinghamshire and Blackburn in Lancashire, as well as parts of Birmingham, Sheffield, Gloucestershire and Glasgow.
And the picturesque Norfolk town of Fakenham can be seen in a whole new light — literally — thanks to the instalment of 30 LED lamps in the town centre.
Fans of LED lamps, which first appeared on British streets in 2011, point to the environmental and financial advantages they offer.
While conventional sodium street lamps light up when an electric current is passed through lithium gas, making it glow, lamps powered by LEDs — light-emitting diodes — glow when current passes through a solid material such as gallium, known as a semiconductor.
They use up to 60 per cent  less energy than sodium lamps and are said to last up to eight times longer, reducing maintenance costs and halving electricity bills.
Lighting up: One of the new LED streetlights that have been installed on the residential roads around the Hounslow council area of Chiswick, London
Lighting up: One of the new LED streetlights that have been installed on the residential roads around the Hounslow council area of Chiswick, London
They are also easy to operate. LEDs produce light immediately when they are switched on rather than taking time to heat up, and can be controlled remotely via digital sensors.
It has even been claimed that their bright 'floodlight-style' beams will deter criminals.
Yet wherever LED lights are installed, they leave residents in uproar.
In Llandough, Wales, locals have organised a petition to have their recently installed LED street lights removed and replaced with the originals.
Last year, Bath council was forced temporarily to stop replacing the city's street lamps with LEDs and hold a public consultation, so vociferous were complaints after the first 2,000 were erected.
And in Trafford, Manchester, residents have threatened to take their council to court if it continues with plans to replace all its 27,000 street lights.
But why are the objections so strong? If the lights can, as Hounslow council promises, be dimmed  if necessary — and if they use less energy, save money and reduce crime — what is so wrong with the new system?
Rather a lot, it turns out. Because, it seems that in their rush to embrace the new 'green' technology, Britain's councils have ignored several serious health issues.
Studies have indicated that LED lights disrupt sleep by suppressing the body's production of melatonin, a hormone which governs our sleep patterns. All light consists of different colour combinations, and visible light falls on a rainbow-like spectrum, which extends from red to blue. Natural light combines all the colours of the spectrum, but the light given off by LEDs is overwhelmingly blue.
Too much 'blue light' suppresses our biological clock, resulting in lower-quality sleep. This in turn increases the likelihood of heart disease, obesity and diabetes. It damages the immune system and leaves sufferers vulnerable to depression and anxiety.
It has even been suggested that too much exposure to LED light causes blindness. Last year, a Spanish study suggested that the light emitted by LED bulbs can damage cells in the retina. By way of illustrating just how potent their glare can be, consider that LED lights are generally banned in art galleries because they bleach the paint on works on display.
'They are dangerous and potentially damaging,' says Simon Nicholas, a 53-year-old chartered engineer who successfully campaigned to stop LED lights being erected in Trafford until further research is done.
Too bright: Studies have indicated that LED lights disrupt sleep by suppressing the body¿s production of melatonin, a hormone which governs our sleep patterns
Too bright: Studies have indicated that LED lights disrupt sleep by suppressing the body¿s production of melatonin, a hormone which governs our sleep patterns
'Local councils have embraced this technology without looking into the health concerns. All they care about is the bottom line.'
Certainly, there was no inquiry into the health implications of the lights before they were installed in Chiswick. Indeed, councillor Colin Ellar claims to have been unaware of the dangers, which were widely reported, until a few days ago. Meanwhile, those affected by councils' new-found zeal for the LED bulbs are questioning just how much taxpayers' money they will, ultimately, save.
Roderick Binns, 65, who lives a few doors away from Andy and Kate, says his council bills  have increased.
'It doesn't feel as though any reduction is being passed on.'
In fact, the initial cost of installing LED lamps is remarkably high. Replacing Trafford's lights would cost £9.3?million. Although in some instances the bulbs can be installed on top of posts that are already in place, in others installing LED involves ripping down and replacing the entire lamp frame, at a cost of about £500 a unit.
Benefits: Hounslow council claims LED lights were chosen because they use less energy, so they are cheaper to operate and more environmentally friendly than conventional sodium bulbs
Benefits: Hounslow council claims LED lights were chosen because they use less energy, so they are cheaper to operate and more environmentally friendly than conventional sodium bulbs
Essex County Council was recently forced to halt plans to replace its lamps when it emerged that the work involved would cost a staggering £31?million.
Even with the energy savings the lights should bring, it could take 20 years for installation costs to be recouped.
Simon Nicholas, who campaigned against the lights in Trafford, says: 'If you were saving energy at home, would you buy a new £500 unit or put a low-watt bulb in? Why can't they just do that?'
Roderick Binns, a property consultant, says that residents in Chiswick could actually lose money because the unsightly lights might affect the value of their homes.
'For those right in front of a light, they're a negative, not a positive,' he says.
What's more, contradicting the claim that bright LED light would lower crime rates, some say the lights may in fact increase antisocial behaviour.
Studies into the effect of lighting on crime have produced mixed results. LED lamps tend to focus their light on one particular spot instead of diffusing light evenly, as their predecessors did. As a result, they leave some patches of street and pavement almost entirely unlit — and potentially vulnerable to criminals.
'It doesn't make sense,' says Les Godwin, a councillor in Prestbury, Chesire, who is opposing the introduction of LEDs in his neighbourhood. 'If you have a well-lit area and you turn it into one with dark parts, that can't be good.'
Councillor Ellar admits that, as well as receiving complaints over the brightness of the lights, he has been told by residents 'in around 25 instances' that coverage where they live is so patchy, the streets are now too dimly lit.
Above all, what appears to have angered people is that LED lamps, like so many other modern innovations, are an ugly and potentially harmful blot on the urban landscape.
'The colour rendering is awful,' says Roderick Binns.
'Street lamps usually give a kind of gentle glow but this is a harsh white light. It's very off-putting.'
In Manchester, the lights have been nicknamed 'UFO lamps' because of their unforgiving glare.
Given that some of Britain's lampposts date back to the 19th century, ripping them down in large numbers is a rather poignant loss to local historians.
As Simon Nicholas puts it: 'You wouldn't rip down historic statues. It's vandalism.
'It's a matter for central government — at the moment nobody's paying attention and nobody's stopping this. It's worrying.'
Until then, it will be down to determined home-owners like him to protect their streets from the invasion of the UFO lamps.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2609957/Coming-street-near-lights-awake-make-people-ill.html#ixzz4A5UjtZPe

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astr0144

How many also have recently been given Smart Meters ?

That's something else they are now trying to replace the old meters and install...both Gas and Electric !

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kinda big for a ballast



I wonder if this is really just to control the flow of electricity ?

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astr0144

Is that something that has recently appeared in your Street Funbox ?

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Quote from: astr0144 on May 29, 2016, 12:29:18 AM
Is that something that has recently appeared in your Street Funbox ?

indeed , and that is what is buried in the ground next to it , you can see the lead going to the base of the lamppost

everything is in permanent veg

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astr0144

When did you first notice it ?

If it is near a existing  lampost, it maybe for these new Streetlights as described in the article..

In my Street somehow they seem to have just replaced the Top of the lampost with the thing you can see in the Picture.....

Its Dark so I have not been able to have a good look at it in day light as yet..

Funny...I was going out yesterday and noticed a special vehicle in my next street that was parked at a lamppost and had a lift to the top of it..I just thought that they were replacing the std  bulb...
and had no idea they were replacing all the lamps in the area..

On going out tonight and looking around... they have replaced the whole local streets... There are two roads that still have the old lighting.. so you can compare the differences..

Initially I did think they dont look good..and in some ways they are not IMO.... they may dazzle the motorists...

But they MAY light the Roads better in some ways... BUT they appear to also cast more shadow...

My concern is do they do as Alex Jones claims and carry Microphones and cameras...as well as effect our health and sleep patterns..



If it was say in the Road...or someones garden it maybe for the new Smart Meters..

On the TV now.. they are playing adverts to promote Smart Meters.

and they are trying to put on in my house..

I made enquiries and I was told everywhere will have them by 2020 in the UK...

It maybe for now you can request not to have them...but that wont last long from what they said..

I am not a happy bunny !



Quote from: funbox on May 29, 2016, 12:32:06 AM
indeed , and that is what is buried in the ground next to it , you can see the lead going to the base of the lamppost

everything is in permanent veg

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QuoteWhen did you first notice it ?

when they dug a hole 7 metres from the existing lamppost , so I filled the whole in.. they snuck it in, the post, whilst I wasn't there , very sneaky of them .. and to date ive never seen a worker working on these things or digging holes.. but still , I notice the hole and take those pictures

QuoteIf it was say in the Road...or someones garden it maybe for the new Smart Meters..

trace the wire in the photo .. goes straight into the lamppost

QuoteOn the TV now.. they are playing adverts to promote Smart Meters.

and they are trying to put on in my house..

I made enquiries and I was told everywhere will have them by 2020 in the UK...

mapping the future is their  business :D

QuoteI am not a happy bunny !


and Easters long gone

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astr0144

Who Knows what these things may do ?

Or if they are part of the  Evil "1984" / NWO agenda..

or are they for the better and we are being misled ?

but on day one , I am ill ...with headaches..so I will have to see how things go !

I think they maybe effecting my E.T Implants !  ???

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Quote from: astr0144 on May 29, 2016, 12:53:18 AM
Who Knows what these things may do ?

Or if they are part of the  Evil "1984" / NWO agenda..

or are they for the better and we are being misled ?

but on day one , I am ill ...with headaches..so I will have to see how things go !

I think they maybe effecting my E.T Implants !  ???

I think its way past the stage of weather it is or isn't :D

im figuring Will Carling had the right idea



but not to stress ,nefarious plans always end up failing eventually

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astr0144

I wonder just how many areas have now had these new Street Lights ?

I would like to have someone explain / to confirm who maybe works for or manufactures them..if they may have other agendas..

I also wonder if they have been put in place for if the World / Country  has some major up and coming collapse..

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Quote from: astr0144 on May 29, 2016, 02:02:58 AM
I wonder just how many areas have now had these new Street Lights ?

I would like to have someone explain / to confirm who maybe works for or manufactures them..if they may have other agendas..

I also wonder if they have been put in place for if the World / Country  has some major up and coming collapse..

seems like there being tested in the U.S too

http://www.ledsmagazine.com/articles/2013/12/outdoor-lighting-london-makes-led-street-light-plans-us-and-uk-projects.html

ultimately nothing a black-widow and some ball bearings wouldn't sort out :D

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astr0144

I am tempted to get my caterpult and some ball bearings or an air rifle..  but may upset other neighbors and so many have "I Phones"/ cameras, they may just catch me on camera if they know no different..and say they may prefer them..

Not all will listen even if you may be able to try to prove that they maybe bad for us.. but it maybe worth sending leaflets to them to inform them that they maybe also contain spy cams..etc

But there are a series of small lights in the thing..not just one large bulb..It maybe that you need to break all the individual lights to knock it out fully depending how the electrical circuits are designed..

But I Hope we have some vandals that may decide to go on a campaign..in which I may be tempted to join them..

but I want  to know if they have cameras first.. as they would be able to track you all around the area and have  it all recorded..

Needs some careful research & planning..

I need to try to see if there are holes around in the area like you have shown...

I don't think that they did up each lamppost... It maybe a case there is one hole per street...not each lamppost and that they are in series...so if you knock one out.. all may go out..

Even if they did get destroyed... They may then replace them..
but may not if enough show opposition to them..

Although some were in the know about them that they were planning it since maybe 5 yrs ago and have opposed its progress..... I don't recall getting any letter or leaflet about them..prior...


I just went outside again and the street looks weird...

Im not so sure that the light is any better..BUT I suspect also that they may dim them later on thru out the night...is that a good idea thou ?   It wont help us spot crooks or help motorist..




Quoteultimately nothing a black-widow and some ball bearings wouldn't sort out :D

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QuoteI am tempted to get my caterpult and some ball bearings or an air rifle..  but may upset other neighbors and so many have "I Phones" they may just catch me on camera if they know no different..and say they may prefer them..

if they're nefarious, by the time we know for certain it will be too late.. remember wetwired?

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But there are a series of small lights in the thing..not just one large bulb..It maybe that you need to break all the individual lights to knock it out fully depending how the electrical circuits are designed..

you can use my thermite belt idea.. rust + magnesium+ holding belt
wrap it around the lamppost , stand back whilst lighting the touchpaper *magnesium* with a blowtorch.. should be down in no time


QuoteI don't think that they did up each lamppost... It maybe a case there is one hole per street...not each lamppost and that they are in series...so if you knock one out.. all may go out..

ive seen multiple holes .. I doubt that doing one will do them all

QuoteAlthough some were in the know about them that they were planning it since maybe 5 yrs ago and have opposed its progress..... I don't recall getting any letter or leaflet about them..prior...

indeed , ole Douglas pop up to say hello again



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astr0144

Ive just been for a walk around my local area for 10 minutes..

It seems all the local streets and entries (Back Alleys) are completed..
EXCEPT the one back alley behind my house...

I cannot see a single  sign of an area where there may have been a hole.....

and the lights when I look more closely are different to the ones shown in the article I posted...MANY MORE smaller lights...

I think what you are suggesting is to destroy the whole lamp posts...not just the lamp parts..

I had not been out for the last few nights to check if any of the lamps in other nearby streets where on or  not.. or if they have only just put them ALL on in the last two days..

The thing is around my area to what it once was.... It is very quite at night...over the years I suspect the stresses and changes of peoples lives have changed how they once were..

At one time you would have gangs of lads who may well try to knock the lights out especially when they were new...
But there is not as many teens around to what there once was..

It maybe that some of  the oldies will have to go back to their teen days...

But as I say Im still concerned these lights have spy cameras..

Im probably on camera as I have just been walking around..

I looked at the lights again and It seems that they  have just changed the lamp part only somehow..

Im not sure How Street lamps and Ones House Electrics may compare...or if the Electric supply may be able to run both...

or what to expect when they come wanting to replace the electric meters with the new smart meters.

Do they need to dig holes in the street or garden for them I wonder... or is there any way that they maybe combining both street lighting and your Electrics if they say were going to install smart meters as well..

Need an electricians view on it !


I have  one unusual surprise..

Many weeks ago I found a large fan that had been left out side  someone house who must have thrown it away...but it was missing a front guard..But I took it home and tried it and it worked fine..

As I was walking down another street on my walk to check the lighting in the area...I came across a Fan Guard and it looked the right size on a skip...I picked it up and took it home and checked it...and it fits ok..

what are the odds of that I wonder ?  :)