Worm On Mars

[funbox]

I think it's the whole area marked in red in the image below.

I don't think so.

do you see why I ask the question ?.. why has the sand ripple formed as it has with that thing in such close proximity to it?. to my mind it has formed first and wormy thing has come after

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[ArMaP]

do you see why I ask the question ?

Yes, I understood that from the beginning.

why has the sand ripple formed as it has with that thing in such close proximity to it?

Why not? Is there something preventing sand ripples from forming close to objects?

to my mind it has formed first and wormy thing has come after

Too bad we can't get any evidence about it.

[funbox]

Why not? Is there something preventing sand ripples from forming close to objects?

no , it just they are usually perturbed if the objects are close enough to them, a concept which you are failing to grasp ... think about magnetic field influences if you like and how their fields can be perturbed and redirected by other objects or fields.. then apply to Aeolian forces

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[ArMaP]

no , it just they are usually perturbed if the objects are close enough to them, a concept which you are failing to grasp ... think about magnetic field influences if you like and how their fields can be perturbed and redirected by other objects or fields.. then apply to Aeolian forces

I'm not failing to understand that, but it looks like you don't see the difference in colour of the sand in the area that appears to be in contact with the rock.

[funbox]

I'm not failing to understand that, but it looks like you don't see the difference in colour of the sand in the area that appears to be in contact with the rock.

you mean wormy thing is leeching from the surrounding sand, draining it of certain light refracting properties ?, or are you saying it some sort of excretion from some orifice of wormy thing staining the surrounding sands
? I fail to see the significance of the sands colour around wormy thing in relation to the formation of the dunette .

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[ArMaP]

you mean wormy thing is leeching from the surrounding sand, draining it of certain light refracting properties ?

No.

or are you saying it some sort of excretion from some orifice of wormy thing staining the surrounding sands ?

No.

I fail to see the significance of the sands colour around wormy thing in relation to the formation of the dunette .

In all the photos I have seen, disturbed sand appears darker, so, to me, the darker sand near the rock means that the dune/ripple is being affected by the rock.

But, now that I am writing this, I think that it may also mean that the rock moved and disturbed the sand.

It's a shame we can't go there to see.

[funbox]

No.No.
In all the photos I have seen, disturbed sand appears darker, so, to me, the darker sand near the rock means that the dune/ripple is being affected by the rock.

But, now that I am writing this, I think that it may also mean that the rock moved and disturbed the sand.

It's a shame we can't go there to see.

does this mean the sand has been disturbed by something other than wormy thing ? by your own rational it could mean the rover , a passing meteorite , a very neat and tidy dust devil , or an employee from Devon island..

mars Quake ?

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[ArMaP]

does this mean the sand has been disturbed by something other than wormy thing ?

No.

by your own rational it could mean the rover , a passing meteorite , a very neat and tidy dust devil , or an employee from Devon island..

No, your interpretation of what I said is wrong.

[funbox]

No.
No, your interpretation of what I said is wrong.

so , what did you mean by , "the rock moved"? under it on volition ?

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[ArMaP]

so , what did you mean by , "the rock moved"? under it on volition ?

Who knows? 

What I meant was that, just by looking at the disturbance in the sand we can have at least two main possibilities: either the dune moved or the rock moved.

But, if we look at the rest of the scene, specially at the area where the object you call the "wormy thing" touches the ground, we can see that there are no sighs of disturbance, which means that it didn't move.

But the lack of signs of disturbance also points to the "wormy thing" being there for a long time (as expected), so the most likely is that the small dune moved under the rock.

[rdunk]

Who knows? 

What I meant was that, just by looking at the disturbance in the sand we can have at least two main possibilities: either the dune moved or the rock moved.

But, if we look at the rest of the scene, specially at the area where the object you call the "wormy thing" touches the ground, we can see that there are no sighs of disturbance, which means that it didn't move.

But the lack of signs of disturbance also points to the "wormy thing" being there for a long time (as expected), so the most likely is that the small dune moved under the rock.

Are you and funbox discussing/referring to the OP worm pic, or to the worm pic that funbox posted later of something different??

[funbox]

Are you and funbox discussing/referring to the OP worm pic, or to the worm pic that funbox posted later of something different??

the picture I posted .. what do you reckon ?

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[ArMaP]

Are you and funbox discussing/referring to the OP worm pic, or to the worm pic that funbox posted later of something different??

The photo funbox posted, he appears to like to derail other people's threads. 

Regarding the photo from the opening post, as I said, it looks like the result of the use of the laser to analyse the ground on that place, they do it from time to time.

[funbox]

The photo funbox posted, he appears to like to derail other people's threads. 

I think wormy thing is entirely relevant , you even say your self that there's been movement in the local vicinity of wormy thing, yet you are unable to make a conjecture to the forces involved

whys this not pertinent to the ops wormy thing movement

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[ArMaP]

I think wormy thing is entirely relevant , you even say your self that there's been movement in the local vicinity of wormy thing, yet you are unable to make a conjecture to the forces involved

I am able to make a conjecture, I was only being unclear about it and assuming everyone else understood what I meant, like you use to do. 

My conjecture was already posted: the dune moved close to the rock you call "wormy thing".