Worm On Mars

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I am able to make a conjecture, I was only being unclear about it and assuming everyone else understood what I meant, like you use to do. 

My conjecture was already posted: the dune moved close to the rock you call "wormy thing".

so there must have been something other than the wind,,,.. that dune is very small ide say less than 8 inches.. what force then , given the wind is to feeble? a quake ? violent sublimation ?

saying it just moved is not enough, gravity and weight in this case, I feel, don't proffer up an explanation of slippage, justifiable with this dune's larger and heavier cousins

dunette though .. no

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[ArMaP]

so there must have been something other than the wind

Why? Dunes are created by wind, and the process that creates them also makes them move, there's no need for other explanation.

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Why? Dunes are created by wind, and the process that creates them also makes them move, there's no need for other explanation.

so.. you think the wind caused them Marking you highlighted/ decribed? did the wind blow the rock and cause a disturbance?

like a corpse trying to blow out a candle.

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[ArMaP]

so.. you think the wind caused them Marking you highlighted/ decribed? did the wind blow the rock and cause a disturbance?

Could you rephrase that in an understandable way? Thanks in advance. 

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Could you rephrase that in an understandable way? Thanks in advance. 

the questions are perfectly described, but there's no need of an apology, in your reference to them not being understandable ,

I will however refer to the darkened sand which you inferred to be slippage , which I questioned you on the forces involved.

no more clues

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there is one force that we have not drawn into the fray yet,.. the rover itself...

ground transmission on mars is like ?

have we seen much distant interference from this potential usurper of the peace ?

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[ArMaP]

the questions are perfectly described

Maybe on your version of the English language, in mine they are not.

I will however refer to the darkened sand which you inferred to be slippage , which I questioned you on the forces involved.

Is there a question or are you just talking to yourself?

[ArMaP]

have we seen much distant interference from this potential usurper of the peace ?

It's hard to know, we have seen some photos with small landslides, relatively close to the rover. Some have signs of older (not so dark) landslides near, so those may have already been there before the rover arrived, but the ones that look new could either have resulted from the rover's actions or not.

[rdunk]

Landslide on this - seriously doubt that to be the case. The area being observed by the microscopic camera is very small! Yes, there are differences in the 2 OP pics - one has a mound and the other does not. To me, even a more questionable "difference" is the side to side flat area where the mound was. 

Notice how different the edges look in that lighter area! Both edges are more defined, with the one on our right having a partial "straight line" edge, as if it were made/caused by something to appear as it does, like it may have been scraped! 

Another set of the OP pics, for convenience!

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Maybe on your version of the English language, in mine they are not.
Is there a question or are you just talking to yourself?

ArMaP, you can be such a prick at times, if you don't want to answer the q's, dont't but don't pretend you don't understand. im asking you about forces ,which your avoiding like a plague of ArMaP's .even to the point of obtusely


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[ArMaP]

ArMaP, you can be such a prick at times, if you don't want to answer the q's, dont't but don't pretend you don't understand. im asking you about forces ,which your avoiding like a plague of ArMaP's .even to the point of obtusely

I never pretend not to understand, when I say I don't understand something it's because I don't understand it, and I never answer a question I don't understand.

If you want your questions answered, it's in your interest that they are understood, right? So why not make a slight effort in that direction?

One of your questions was: "so.. you think the wind caused them Marking you highlighted/ decribed?"
What does that really mean? Are you talking about the thing I marked? I only marked the rock you call "wormy thing", and I was talking about the wind creating the small dune, not creating any rocks.

Another question from you: "did the wind blow the rock and cause a disturbance?"
How could the wind move the rock and not move the sand? That doesn't make sense.

How can I answer those questions if I don't understand what you mean?

PS: I know that this time my posts may be slightly harsher than usual, but that's because I am becoming tired of trying to understand your words, and you, apparently, never make an effort to make it easier for me (I can't speak for other people, so I don't know if everybody understands you or not) to understand what you write.

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I'm not failing to understand that, but it looks like you don't see the difference in colour of the sand in the area that appears to be in contact with the rock.

so the rock moved to cause this disturbance?

tic tic

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[ArMaP]

Yes, there are differences in the 2 OP pics - one has a mound and the other does not. To me, even a more questionable "difference" is the side to side flat area where the mound was.

I don't understand, what mound one has and the other doesn't? Which one has the mound and which one doesn't?

PS: they posted a colour photo from the Mastcam showing that area.

[ArMaP]

so the rock moved to cause this disturbance?

It's unlikely that the rock moved, not only because, in itself, that's an unlikely event, but also because there are no signs of that, if the rock had move against the dune, creating that disturbance, it would have left some kind of trail.

[Ellirium113]

It's an issue of time not movement. Look at the surrounding stones and you can see their shadows are gone in the second image indicative of a change in the suns position. However my prediction is that the worm debate will go on for at least 2 more pages with no conclusion reached.