At least 60 dead, 100 hurt in truck attack on Nice Bastille Day crowd.

[astr0144]

At least 60 dead, 100 hurt in truck attack on Nice Bastille Day crowd.

Another mass killing in Europe..

An attacker killed about 60 people and injured 100 when he drove a truck at high speed into crowds watching Bastille Day fireworks in the French Riviera city of Nice late on Thursday, local media quoted officials as saying.

Police shot and killed the driver, who drove at high speed for over 100 meters (yards) along the famed Promenade des Anglais seafront before hitting the mass of spectators, regional sub-prefect Sebastien Humbert told France Info radio.

Broadcaster i-Tele quoted the prosecutor's office as saying the preliminary death toll was 60. Local lawmaker Eric Ciotti told France Info radio more probably had died. Other officials put the number of wounded at at least 100 and possibly more.

Humbert described it as a clear criminal attack, although the driver was not yet identified. Residents of the Mediterranean city close to the Italian border were advised to stay indoors. There was no sign of any other attack.

Almost exactly eight months ago Islamic State militants killed 130 people in Paris on Nov. 13, the bloodiest in a number of attacks in France and Belgium in the past two years. On Sunday, France had breathed a sigh of relief as the month-long Euro 2016 soccer tournament ended without a feared attack.

Officials were cautious about accounts from bystanders that the lone man driving the truck had also opened fire and, amid chatter on social media of a hostage situation, police called on people not to propagate rumors that were hampering their work.

One woman told France Info she and others had fled in terror: "The lorry came zig-zagging along the street. We ran into a hotel and hid in the toilets with lots of people."

Another woman told the station she was sheltering in a restaurant on the promenade with some 200 other people, where things had calmed down about two hours after the incident.

"Dear Nicois," local mayor Christian Estrosi tweeted, "The driver of a truck appears to have killed dozens of people. Stay at home for the time being. More news to follow."

Regional newspaper Nice Matin quoted its reporter at the scene saying there were many injured people and blood on the street. It published a photograph of a damaged, long-distance delivery truck, which it said was riddled with bullets and images of emergency services treating the injured.

Damien Allemand, the paper's correspondent, was quoted as saying: "People are running. It's panic. He rode up onto the Prom and piled into the crowd ... There are people covered in blood. There must be many injured."

Social media carried images of people lying apparently lifeless in pools of blood.

Local mayor Estrosi has warned in the past of the risk of Islamist attacks in the region, following Islamic State bloodshed in Paris and Brussels over the past 18 months.

French President Francois Hollande, who was in the south of France at the time, had hours earlier said a state of emergency put in place after the Paris attacks in November would not be extended when it was due to expire on July 26.

"We can't extend the state of emergency indefinitely, it would make no sense. That would mean we're no longer a republic with the rule of law applied in all circumstances," Hollande told journalists in a traditional Bastille Day interview.

(Writing by Alastair Macdonald; Editing by James Dalgleish)


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/truck-plows-crowd-nice-france-many-injured-paper-213412656.html

[Payton]

Well we clearly need to start thinking about banning trucks now

I dont understand why we havent put together a coalition of countries to annihilate ISIS, unless ISIS is playing a role for the TPTB and thats why we havent done it.

They appear unbiased in their attacks and are hitting major powers of the world. Its usually not a good idea to piss in EVERYONES cherrios

We need to go medieval on these terrorists

[ArMaP]

The problem with situations like this is that there isn't a clear enemy, as this kind of enemy is the result of a mentality, and we cannot kill thoughts, we need to show people that those thoughts are wrong and we need to create the conditions that stop that kind of thoughts from appearing.

Stopping meddling in other country's business would be a good start.

[astr0144]

The Likes of Alex Jones would probably suggest that it is another type of False Flag......

He suggest Al Quida and the likes of US Gov / CIA are all involved..to create situations ..probably to create fear and maybe bring in even more security..

if so ,it seems impossible to really know or more so prove..

He has suggested that we will see more and more of this sort of thing if the Globalist's really exist and  are planning such things..

I really don't see any obvious or maybe any solution..

Only maybe that if it is really the case, that those in the know do more to expose it.. and fight to remove the corruption involved...which may take some years..

I do think in theory its possible , but that also has to include educating more people...as to what maybe going on..

and the STRONG Honest Elites to really try to target the Evil Elites...

[ArMaP]

The Likes of Alex Jones would probably suggest that it is another type of False Flag......

Because that's what gets him his money.

if so ,it seems impossible to really know or more so prove..

And that's why he and others like him get away with saying things like that.

He has suggested that we will see more and more of this sort of thing if the Globalist's really exist and  are planning such things..

And we will see more and more of this sort of thing if the problem is not solved, regardless of the existence of the Globalists.

I do think in theory its possible , but that also has to include educating more people...as to what maybe going on..

What's going on is part of the problem, but the biggest problem, to me, is that people keep on doing things that affect other people, and when those other people react then they feel that they are being unjustly targeted. In the case of terrorism, people only accept easily to kill other people (including children) when they brainwashed enough to stop seeing other people as the same as them, with the same basic needs and expectations.

When people see that we are all the same many problems will disappear, and that's why many people in power (either those that are on  power publicly or those that are behind the scenes) want to keep the "status quo", as people in fear is easier to control.

[astr0144]

Not necessarily !...or in most cases..

His Video channel is free to all...No one has to join or pay him money to see what he says on his Free videos..

In my case and I believe in many others...he has made people aware that such things as false flags are possibilities...

He  was the 1st person that ever suggested it to me..
and I believe he has educated me...

whether its for the best or genuine however or intentional on behalf of possible "Powers that be" ,maybe hard to say !

I used to think he was legit, but knowing more about other views on him...other things are always  possible..

In ref to him  making money from it...Yes he probably does make a certain amount from those who do pay for his paid services..

Again if he is legit and was a Expert in advising the public... then some may see it ok for him to earn from his services..

Im not sure I was aware of anyone else until A.J came on the scene that would discuss such things..at least online..

but no doubt there will have always been others who are aware of a lot of the things he talks about and may post it for free if they have websites..

and before the internet there may have been books wrote  about similar things.. but getting to know which books may not have been easy before the internet ..and would they be free to access thru libarie's..

Some books are not easily available that may discuss such things ..

Because that's what gets him his money.

It could be considered in varying ways...
He maybe genuine in what he claims as he sees things...or he maybe being paid to suggest false info..

but I do think somethings he has said ,appeared to be correct..

If he is just saying things on behalf of some other group or to make money... then yes it could be seen that way..

And that's why he and others like him get away with saying things like that

Similar things have gone on thru out history..

Have most be down to False Flag type situations or from some Evil group agendas..?

or are they just various terrorist.. (Which will always be around) even if they are not connected to any P.T.B..

And we will see more and more of this sort of thing if the problem is not solved, regardless of the existence of the Globalists.

It seems there are and always will be, too many differences in people around the World...and there will always be groups or individuals that disagree with certain things that will make them consider terrorists like solutions..

They may have some reasons to consider such actions when they see no other solutions ..or in turn may believe that they had been victimized.....

be it some other country taking over another..
or some Politicians  that make some new laws that may create problem to them..

Its not right to target innocent people...but they may think its an "Eye for an Eye"  type of thing , if they had what they thought were innocent persons targeted &  who had been effected in some way..

Generally we could have things that run in certain  general way and try to stick to rules and morals etc....where life may run more safe most of the time where ever..be it sticking to some sort of ways that allows us to live in peace..

but mistake and errors will always occur...we are imperfect and have many differences..

we may have the ability to choose whats right and wrong via our conscious decisions.. that would stop us attacking others generally..

but when we believe we have been wronged... we may do wrong also in return or revenge..

Its making people aware...that I believe can help reduce similar future incidents provided we are all given the right type of educational upbringing and that people are able to access it and understand correctly.....

some who may have obtained mental illness or who have less intellect..may not always be able to fully understand..

many of us have flaws in one way or the other..

and maybe somethings..like why some have more than others .. that may create resentment etc..or who has more abilities or brains or makes more money..has a gift or attracts more people etc..or other unequal things in ref to us all... they seem uncontrollable and will always split people in various ways of which some may see it as injustice..

John Lear's saying... may suggest how to be..live without Hate, envy and greed etc..

but  many may still resent that if they do not have equal similar things in life as those that have..
we are all born into various circumstances.

So that may lead them to try other ways to obtain things... be it by theft or violence...

Life is just not that simple IMO..

What's going on is part of the problem, but the biggest problem, to me, is that people keep on doing things that affect other people, and when those other people react then they feel that they are being unjustly targeted. In the case of terrorism, people only accept easily to kill other people (including children) when they brainwashed enough to stop seeing other people as the same as them, with the same basic needs and expectations.

When people see that we are all the same many problems will disappear, and that's why many people in power (either those that are on  power publicly or those that are behind the scenes) want to keep the "status quo", as people in fear is easier to control.

[ArMaP]

Not necessarily !...or in most cases..

His Video channel is free to all...No one has to join or pay him money to see what he says on his Free videos..

Does he have adverts?

It seems there are and always will be, too many differences in people around the World...and there will always be groups or individuals that disagree with certain things that will make them consider terrorists like solutions..

When people decide to kill themselves to kill several of the "others" I suppose it must be something stronger than a "disagreement".

They may have some reasons to consider such actions when they see no other solutions ..or in turn may believe that they had been victimized.....

People, unless they have some psychological problem, only take extreme measures when they see no other solution to what they consider a very serious problem.

be it some other country taking over another..

It's mostly that, either a complete take over or a take over disguised of something else.

Its not right to target innocent people...but they may think its an eye for an eye type of thing , if they had what they thought were innocent persons targeted &  who had been effected in some way..

Yes, and they may even be partially right, but that's when that "education" about other people should be applied. For example, big country "A" promotes a war on small country "B" to get some geopolitical or economic advantage over other countries, so people from country "B" turn against people of country "A", but what they should do is turn against the responsible from country "A" that weren't worried about their own soldiers dying on a war, as long as that war gave them that advantage they were seeking.

When people see who their real enemies are they see that common people are just that, common, and that they are all the same, in Chicago or Beirut, Paris or Buenos Aires, the problems are (usually) in the politicians.

and maybe somethings..like why some have more than others .. that may create resentment etc..or who has more abilities or brains or makes more money..has a gift or attracts more people etc..or other unequal things in ref to us all... they seem uncontrollable and will always split people in various ways of which some may see it as injustice..

I don't think that happens as often as those that consider themselves "better" think or promote, as, first of all, other people need to know what you have to be envious of your position, and that means that they must be from a social class that is not as low in the social pyramid that prevents them from heaving the means of knowing what you have.

Life is just not that simple IMO..

It's not, but when people see that we are all the same they will see that things are easier than they think.

[zorgon]

When people see that we are all the same many problems will disappear, and that's why many people in power (either those that are on  power publicly or those that are behind the scenes) want to keep the "status quo", as people in fear is easier to control.

Well that is nice sentiment for a utopian planet to be sure... but the problem is that we are NOT all the same.  Take Islam as the prime example... the very concept of what Islam teaches is against our way of life

Sure MOST average Muslims on the face of it are peaceful people. I have known many and had two stay with me, one chap from Morroco who was really funny (and a bit odd ) and a girl from paris (who is a true Berber but brought up Muslim)   None of the Muslims I know have ever even talked religion. In the medieval group the Kingdom of Caid (which is my local kingdom) portrays Arabic persona and we have never had a problem.

However today thanks mainly to Obama's agenda to drive racism down our throats, we are seeing a rise in extreme islamist hell bent on wiping us out.

Fear mongering and stirring up the racist issue is not helping and I am sure it is on the agenda of some 'globalists'  but in simple fact at least 10% of Muslims ARE extremists and they find our way of life abhorent.   10% of 1.6 Billion is a LOT of terrorists

So far  fortunately  most of these instances are small groups (like the truck driver in France is only one guy and the two that shot of California were only 2 people...   

So yeah we can say it's not really a problem yet... but people are NOT all the same  If we were it would be a boring planet


All this talk about 'false flag' events....  makes it sound like no news these days is real... yet it is easy enough to check if anyone died by checking the morgues 

The current rulers of the USA are ALL connected by family  ALL the presidents except one (including obama) are related by blood. They are also heavily connected to the Royal Saudi family... so there really is no surprise to me that they are stirring the pot. 

perhaps if we nuked Isreal things would settle down a lot   But then someone will label me anti-semetic for thinking that

[astr0144]

Without rechecking and from what I think I recall...I think that He does carry adverts on his websites...maybe he allows advertisers to pay him to place ads...

He also does promote his own brands within his videos..

Im assuming that you may have seen one or two of his videos at some time.. and may have seen some egs...such as the health type Supplements or some of his DVDs etc  that he promotes..

He also does have another forum that he charges per month that I think he suggests gives his all his info...and its given daily or earlier than you get on his free video channel....

I think he does post less material than he once did on his free channel..

Does he have adverts?

It would seem hard to think anyone would become a human bomb...willingly..

Are most such persons brain washed into it..

A.J has suggested that in some cases it maybe down to mind control...

One possibility that may offer an alternative explanation..

When people decide to kill themselves to kill several of the "others" I suppose it must be something stronger than a "disagreement".   

That is some main reasons... others maybe religion  or what they see as injustice reasons...

It's mostly that, either a complete take over or a take over disguised of something else.

That eg  is or often seen to be the case...

Overall we have similar values and needs and are the same in many other general ways...

but what they should do is turn against the responsible from country "A" that weren't worried about their own soldiers dying on a war, as long as that war gave them that advantage they were seeking.

When people see who their real enemies are they see that common people are just that, common, and that they are all the same, in Chicago or Beirut, Paris or Buenos Aires, the problems are (usually) in the politicians.

In the case where you have a 3rd type World terrorist attack a 1st World one... or say they attacked a University , college or school where there maybe a certain class type of people... they may assume or envision that those people have more or are more like as I suggested.. be it more wealthy or gifted Intelligent as egs..

I don't think that happens as often as those that consider themselves "better" think or promote, as, first of all, other people need to know what you have to be envious of your position, and that means that they must be from a social class that is not as low in the social pyramid that prevents them from heaving the means of knowing what you have.

Living without Hate , envy and greed is ok if you have certain things in ones life to live a reasonable life...but some have very little and no doubt do have such concerns...

Is it possible we all could have a set amount and be more content...

do we really have to be living our lives with such big differences...and why ?

we probably have what it takes to change things..

but so far its not happened..

It's not, but when people see that we are all the same they will see that things are easier than they think.

[astr0144]

When I think it maybe referred to False Flag..

In some cases.... it maybe that nothing actually happened as suggested or no one actually died..

But also maybe F Flags maybe used as a type of distraction...ie some terror attack created..where people really are killed... to distract from some other major situation..


In ref to the Royal Saudis, Israel  or the Middle East in general.. I don't think I fully understand it all..

I assumed it was down to religion...or one countries views over the other or past history issues..

or OIL....

Can anyone give a brief explanation what the main problems that are in ref to the  Saudis and Israel issues..

Is it a Jewish V Arab view on religion / what God had promised thing ? or to do with Palestine !

All this talk about 'false flag' events....  makes it sound like no news these days is real... yet it is easy enough to check if anyone died by checking the morgues 

The current rulers of the USA are ALL connected by family  ALL the presidents except one (including obama) are related by blood. They are also heavily connected to the Royal Saudi family... so there really is no surprise to me that they are stirring the pot. 

perhaps if we nuked Isreal things would settle down a lot   But then someone will label me anti-semetic for thinking that

[robomont]

if its distraction,i just read it may be because usa put nukes in poland and wants to in turkey.putin is bent sideways over both and about to raise up the red army if this continues.
then china needs population reduction and usa keeps provoking ww3 in south china sea.just  to help china out.lol.

[robomont]

earlier in thread z,you mention morgue numbers,those cant be trusted now that some guy came out with 3d printed bodies for 50grand a piece.he states not even a mortician would know the truth.that a detailed chem analysis is only way of knowing for sure.he was on shark tank last year hustling his wares for surgery students versus real human parts.

[ArMaP]

Well that is nice sentiment for a utopian planet to be sure... but the problem is that we are NOT all the same.

People really are the same, we all have the same needs, even the need (for most people) to believe in god(s).

Take Islam as the prime example... the very concept of what Islam teaches is against our way of life

Could you give an example?

In the medieval group the Kingdom of Caid (which is my local kingdom) portrays Arabic persona and we have never had a problem.

In Medieval times there wasn't any real problem between Christians, Jews and Muslims, they all lived in the same towns and villages, and while those from the religion that was not the dominant one at the time had to pay some extra tax, when those towns and villages were conquered by the opposing forces the people would keep on living as before, the only thing that changed were the ones that had to pay the extra tax.

However today thanks mainly to Obama's agenda to drive racism down our throats, we are seeing a rise in extreme islamist hell bent on wiping us out.

These things do not appear from a moment to another, they are the result of years and years of things accumulating. Whatever Obama has done that helped this situation was built on top of what other rulers and countries have done before.

Fear mongering and stirring up the racist issue is not helping and I am sure it is on the agenda of some 'globalists'  but in simple fact at least 10% of Muslims ARE extremists and they find our way of life abhorent.   10% of 1.6 Billion is a LOT of terrorists

Why are you helping the fear mongering with that "simple fact"? Where did those "10%" came from?

So yeah we can say it's not really a problem yet... but people are NOT all the same  If we were it would be a boring planet

People are not the same in the way they think and in the options they make, but people are the same in their needs and hopes.

All this talk about 'false flag' events....  makes it sound like no news these days is real... yet it is easy enough to check if anyone died by checking the morgues

Yes, that "it was a false flag" fashion, to me, it's just a way of people feeling better than the others, with that "I'm smarter and I'm going to be fooled like other people by these events" attitude to hide that they are, in reality, easier to fool.

perhaps if we nuked Isreal things would settle down a lot   But then someone will label me anti-semetic for thinking that

Israel is really a big part of this problem, as the people that lived there and were promised to get the rule of their own country were not happy when their rulers decided to give the land and its rule to people that didn't live there, but I don't think nuking it will solve the problem.

[ArMaP]

Im assuming that you may have seen one or two of his videos at some time.. and may have seen some egs...such as the health type Supplements or some of his DVDs etc  that he promotes..

I don't remember ever seeing some of his videos, but I remember seeing people talking about his supplements.

It would seem hard to think anyone would become a human bomb...willingly..

Are most such persons brain washed into it..

A.J has suggested that in some cases it maybe down to mind control...

There's no need of brain washing or mind control when people do not see an end to a bad life and no possibility of a better future, either for themselves or for their family.

In the case where you have a 3rd type World terrorist attack a 1st World one... or say they attacked a University , college or school where there maybe a certain class type of people... they may assume or envision that those people have more or are more like as I suggested.. be it more wealthy or gifted Intelligent as egs..

From what I remember, attacks like that are done because the attackers see that type of education as a bad thing or because they see the people as representing their enemies, not because they may have more money but because they represent the "oppressor", as it's a real fact that the 1st World was created, in a large part, by exploring the 3rd World.

Living without Hate , envy and greed is ok if you have certain things in ones life to live a reasonable life...but some have very little and no doubt do have such concerns...

Sure, having to worry about your children dying from hunger it's not the same thing as not being able to decide where to go on vacation.

we probably have what it takes to change things..

but so far its not happened..

True, and it's the ones that have the power to change things that should do it, and people that have a better life (even if not that good by 1st World standards) that should do something about those that are in a worse position and not trying to get an even better life, based mostly on having higher priced useless things when they could have used that money for something better.

[ArMaP]

earlier in thread z,you mention morgue numbers,those cant be trusted now that some guy came out with 3d printed bodies for 50grand a piece.he states not even a mortician would know the truth.that a detailed chem analysis is only way of knowing for sure.he was on shark tank last year hustling his wares for surgery students versus real human parts.

That sounds more like publicity than reality, as a human body has many different parts with different textures, cell types, etc., that method would need to be able to create fake hair (different types for each body), eyes (these made from several different parts), external skin, mucosa, nails, etc.