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Breaking News!! - Juno Probe sends back first home movies of Jupiter!!

Started by A51Watcher, August 06, 2016, 05:00:03 AM

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ArMaP

Quote from: A51Watcher on September 08, 2016, 06:05:27 AM
So here's wiki's explanation of Callistos 'orbital eccentricity'
Is this in connection with the blinking or with something else I missed?

A51Watcher

Quote from: ArMaP on September 08, 2016, 09:22:13 AM
Is this in connection with the blinking or with something else I missed?

I doubt that the blinking is considered when measuring orbital eccentricity.

I think that is considered when measuring Albedo.


A51Watcher

Well Juno is NOT going to reach a 14 day orbit as originally planned.

Essentially the carburetor is frozen, causing timed engine firings to be delayed randomly by as much as 14 seconds, and engineers "could not find a fix that would not risk Juno's scientific goals".

So they have decided to stay in the current 53 day orbit until 2021 if funding allows instead of 2018 as originally planned.

And still no mention by anyone anywhere of the orbital eccentricitys of the moons.

I mean what the hell, this is the first time ever we have gotten actual video footage of several moons orbiting their host planet, and it is crazy jumpy up and down!!... not smooth and rounded like all the "artist concept" animations we have been shown up till now!

Why is there no public discussion of this by the scientific community??!!

Are they too shocked privately and don't wish to appear ignorant publicly because they don't have an answer?

Is this the new rule in cosmology, to ignore strange new things we discover in the universe?

Oh great!  >:(



The Seeker

Quote from: A51Watcher on April 24, 2017, 01:22:55 AM
Is this the new rule in cosmology, to ignore strange new things we discover in the universe?

Oh great!  >:(
Sounds like they are following the same protocol as main stream archaeology, 51; if they can't explain it or it doesn't fit neatly within their ideas of how it should be, they just ignore it or sweep it under the carpet;

Move along, nothing to see here...

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ArMaP

Quote from: the seeker on April 24, 2017, 01:51:23 AM
if they can't explain it or it doesn't fit neatly within their ideas of how it should be, they just ignore it or sweep it under the carpet;
In this case, we (at least some of us) are assuming that there's something anomalous, if there isn't then there's no reason to explain it.

The Seeker

Quote from: ArMaP on April 24, 2017, 01:56:42 AM
In this case, we (at least some of us) are assuming that there's something anomalous, if there isn't then there's no reason to explain it.
All well and understood, Armap; but I agree with A51, the images we have been shown aren't even close to what we were led to expect, and surely others are curious as to why?

Reminds me of the emperor's new clothes...

::)

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A51Watcher


Actually I think this footage is further confirmation of the electric universe model put forth by the Thunderbolts Project, which has also documented mainstream science's refusal to acknowledge even recent evidence that comets are not dirty snowballs which melt as they get close to the sun, but instead rocky clumps with electric charges that interact with the suns charge.

I suspect that my charges of magnetism doing battle with gravity will eventually be proven out.


 

The Seeker

Quote from: A51Watcher on April 24, 2017, 02:30:49 AM
Actually I think this footage is further confirmation of the electric universe model put forth by the Thunderbolts Project, which has also documented mainstream science's refusal to acknowledge even recent evidence that comets are not dirty snowballs which melt as they get close to the sun, but instead rocky clumps with electric charges that interact with the suns charge.

I suspect that my charges of magnetism doing battle with gravity will eventually be proven out.



The electric universe model does offer much to consider and ponder; the solar wind which is,after all, charged particles, reacting with the cometary mass  producing an arc generating the comet's tail is far more plausible than an interstellar ice cream cone melting in the sunlight...

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Shasta56

"Interstellar ice cream cone..."  I never thought of it that way.  Reminds me of the time Shannon was eating snow, and I told she shouldn't eat it, because she didn't know who'd peed on it.  Never saw a kid spit something out so fast!

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ArMaP

Quote from: the seeker on April 24, 2017, 02:04:52 AM
All well and understood, Armap; but I agree with A51, the images we have been shown aren't even close to what we were led to expect, and surely others are curious as to why?
Most of the times, the scientists say something, the media changes it to something else and people read what they want to read, so they expect their own version of what the media told, not what the scientists told.

ArMaP

Quote from: A51Watcher on April 24, 2017, 02:30:49 AM
Actually I think this footage is further confirmation of the electric universe model put forth by the Thunderbolts Project, which has also documented mainstream science's refusal to acknowledge even recent evidence that comets are not dirty snowballs which melt as they get close to the sun, but instead rocky clumps with electric charges that interact with the suns charge.

How does this footage confirms the electric universe model?

A51Watcher

Quote from: ArMaP on April 24, 2017, 03:39:57 PM
How does this footage confirms the electric universe model?

By the moons orbits indicating that they have an electric charge and accompanying magnetic field.

Not surprising considering that even smaller comets have the same.

eta: There are no other planetary bodies in the vertical plane to account for the observed vertical movement.

Horizontal movement would indicate gravitic stress but that is not what we observe.

Vertical movement indicates magnetic field stress.






Littleenki

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 08, 2016, 10:59:48 PM
Ahh! Good news!

"Juno's camera -- JunoCam -- also was shut down during orbit insertion, but it is back in action, taking long-distance shots that will be combined into a so-called "marble movie."

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/juno-heads-back-toward-jupiter-instruments-at-the-ready/


During the post orbital insertion news conference the mission director responded to a question about any surprises by saying the outer moon appeared much dimmer than they expected, and plan to investigate.

But no mention of the odd oscillations we see during orbit.

In watching the tracer sequence the oscillations remind me of oscilloscope display patterns, or even a heart beat monitor.

Even the first moon with the most smooth orbit of all, still displays some slight oscillations as well, with each moon outward displaying this same behaviour more pronounced the further they are away from Jupiter.     

eta: So is gravity restraining their urge to jump around or the root cause of it?

Still waiting on an explanation for this.

In an inductive circuit, like a transformer, sometimes a resonance is reached which might create a physical oscillation in either primary or secondary, depending on mass and density of the bodies in relation to their counterpart.

So, perhaps instead of Jupiter displaying a wobble such as Earth with it's precession, it's mass is forcing the moons to display the wobble as they orbit?

Maybe the moons have frozen regions with differing densities, creating a gravity based wobble, but for me the first place to look would be in the induction of electricity between Jupiter and its moons, and how the specific frequencies of those wobbles might be an indicator of what forces are being observed electrically speaking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance
Cheers
Le
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A51Watcher

Quote from: Littleenki on April 24, 2017, 06:34:56 PM
In an inductive circuit, like a transformer, sometimes a resonance is reached which might create a physical oscillation in either primary or secondary, depending on mass and density of the bodies in relation to their counterpart.

So, perhaps instead of Jupiter displaying a wobble such as Earth with it's precession, it's mass is forcing the moons to display the wobble as they orbit?

Maybe the moons have frozen regions with differing densities, creating a gravity based wobble, but for me the first place to look would be in the induction of electricity between Jupiter and its moons, and how the specific frequencies of those wobbles might be an indicator of what forces are being observed electrically speaking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_resonance
Cheers
Le

That is the first place to look for me as well.

Gravity displays itself as a shortest distance between two points type of force line.

Magnetism displays itself as a multi angular web, line of force -




Since all the bodies in this area reside on basically the same horizontal plane, we must look to the forces that have influence outside the horizontal plane.


A51Watcher


For details on comets NOT being flying ice cream cones and instead clumpy rocks with electric charge see the evidence here -