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SpaceX rocket explodes on Pad 40

Started by spacemaverick, September 01, 2016, 06:17:35 PM

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ArMaP

Quote from: zorgon on September 04, 2016, 01:20:41 PM
After all these years of space flight we still are testing and exploding rockets... and you tell me they went to the moon?
SpaceX never went to the Moon.

Pimander


Pimander

Quote from: zorgon on September 04, 2016, 01:20:41 PM
The UFO is obviously a bird... people are getting STUPID these days :P
You noticed?  :o

So, you back then?  We need more activity on here of the kingly variety. :)

ArMaP

#18
Quote from: astr0144 on September 04, 2016, 01:56:30 PM
Is that video footage taken from the actual original video ?
The animated GIF was made with frames from the video below.


QuoteIf so How did you manage to zoom in on it ?
No zoom, I downloaded the highest resolution version and captured some frames from it.

QuoteIt would be ok if we could estimate the distance between the Rocket and  the right side   towers and maybe then to be able to try to estimate the speed..
For that we need to know the distance between the object and the towers or some other reference that gives us a distance between the object and the camera, without any reference we can only know that the object travelled the distance corresponding to the angle of the field of view of the camera.

Quotebut I don't think that the distances from the Camera to the towers and the rocket are on the same level...
so it maybe impossible to gauge the real distances.
It is impossible to know the distance from the camera to the object, the distance to the towers is irrelevant, as we don't have any frame that shows the object in front or behind one of the towers.

QuoteDoes the object appear to be moving quicker than we would expect a bird to be flying ?
Impossible to say without knowing the distance between the object and the camera, but it sure is possible that it was a bird.

QuoteThe Rocket exploded just before the object was on level with it..

It was rather a coincidence if it is a bird to just be passing at that exact time..
Coincidences do exist, and in a place where there are many birds it's not hard to happen. If you look carefully you can see two other occasions (at least) on that video when we can see birds flying, both from left to right and from right to left.

Quoteand the Rocket exploded at a higher stage level..not from the lower level..
Yes, that's the strangest part.

Edited to add that I could find 5 occasions in the video when we can see what looks like birds, including the "object".

ArMaP


ArMaP

Although we don't know the distance between the object and the camera we have one clue: the light from the initial explosion.

In the first image below we can see that there are no signs of any extra light, as expected just before the explosion.


In the following frame we can see the start of the explosion and that the explosion is illuminating the rightmost tower.

As you can see there are no signs of that light on the object, as would be expected if the object was flying in the direction of the rocket.

On the third frame we can see more light on the rightmost tower and still no light on the object.


Same thing on the fourth frame.


And on the fifth. Maybe there's a little light there, but I'm not sure.


On the sixth frame we can see some light on the object, when it's closer to a direct path between the camera and the light of the explosion, as expected from an object that was flying between the camera and the rocket.


On the seventh frame it appears to be a little light coming from the explosion.


Back to no extra light on the object on the eight frame.


So, although we don't know the distance from the camera to the object, it does look like the object was somewhere between the camera and the rocket.

spacemaverick

Quote from: zorgon on September 04, 2016, 01:20:41 PM
The UFO is obviously a bird... people are getting STUPID these days :P

After all these years of space flight we still are testing and exploding rockets... and you tell me they went to the moon?

::)

What I want to know is what were all the small explosions that kept going after the first one?  What was that thing carrying?   Rocket blows up once... it doesn't make a long series of small explosions

8)

The smaller explosions were partly from the satellite fuel for their maneuvering thrusters, then you have explosive bolts for separation of stages, 9 Merlin engines fed by liquid fuel ( which allowed for controlled descent of the first stage back to landing).  The explosion originated near a fueling area for the upper stage.

The satellite was a Facebook satellite to bring internet to Northern Africa.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on September 04, 2016, 05:44:34 PM
It is impossible to know the distance from the camera to the object, the distance to the towers is irrelevant, as we don't have any frame that shows the object in front or behind one of the towers.
You need stereo cameras for that.

QuoteYes, that's the strangest part.
They were filling the tank where the fire started so it isn't that strange.  The question is what started the fire.

Pimander

Quote from: spacemaverick on September 04, 2016, 06:36:46 PM
The satellite was a Facebook satellite to bring internet to Northern Africa.
It could well have had applications for other stuff.  The contractor makes comms devices for the military and intelligence.

spacemaverick

#24


Another new video



Another......



Explanation as to the fuel on board...

From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

spacemaverick



Well this has some extra outside of the launch....what is it?

From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

spacemaverick

Merlin engine design....



By the man in charge of propulsion...
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

Pimander

Quote from: spacemaverick on September 04, 2016, 08:55:51 PM
Well this has some extra outside of the launch....what is it?
I see a flash if light to the left of the rocket just before the explosion.

ArMaP

Quote from: Pimander on September 04, 2016, 09:28:01 PM
I see a flash if light to the left of the rocket just before the explosion.
On that last video? At what time?

Phedre

#29
This was posted on the National UFO Reporting Center

Cape Canaveral, Florida, September 01st, 2016, @ 0907 HRS. (EDT)—The Space X second stage missile caught fire and exploded, just as a very peculiar object, captured on video, is seen to move through the launch area.  At this writing, not much is known about the fast-moving object, but it appears to be very peculiar, and highly anomalous.  It was first called to our attention yesterday, Thursday, September 01st, by a professional driver in Florida, who was carefully reviewing a CNN video in slow motion, and noticed the object streaking across the screen.  We provide below one of the still freeze-frame images he forwarded to our Center.

In addition, we provide below some preliminary analysis, provided to us by Mr. Gene Weed, who has reported that the object in the version of the video footage he has witnessed appears to be a solid, dimensional object.  His comments and illustrations appear below:

((BEGIN COPIED COMMENTS AND ILLUSTRATIONS FROM MR. GENE WEED))

Peter,

SpaceX film, see link:



PHOTO ANALYSIS:
Solid rounded rectangular object, with dark energy bands under the object. Study it carefully, and you can see it is a solid object above the dark bands.
notes
It is noteworthy to mention, that the object was observed flying away to the right after the explosion, in later frames. The publisher missed it.
I have witnessed these and photographed them in Yuma, AZ in the 60-'s
Identical.

http://www.nuforc.org/

I apologize , I can not post pictures.

PHOTO ANALYSIS:
Solid rounded rectangular object, with dark energy bands under the object. Study it carefully, and you can see it is a solid object above the dark bands.
notes
It is noteworthy to mention, that the object was observed flying away to the right after the explosion, in later frames. The publisher missed it.
I have witnessed these and photographed them in Yuma, AZ in the 60-'s
Identical.

Below is the objects frequency bands, that show it is a read object.

Best,

Gene Weed

((END COPIED COMMENTS BY MR. GENE WEED))

We will post again, following the Labor Day weekend. 

Statement posted to NUFORC website on Friday evening, September 02, 2016.