Philae lander found

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Seriously?  It looks like the lander to me.

The image link is

ArMaP, is that where ATS images are stored now?

ETA:  Oh, those.  I can't see the images in the last post.

that's where I now upload too , Ats I was banned from , but they still keep the 1000 plus images I created on there ...

no, the ones above and the demonic bunny are hosted at ats

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Seriously?  It looks like the lander to me.

why does it look like the lander to you ..? what discerning features are you seeing ?

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as I look more it kinda reminds me of



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I looked at the images by another method.

Any of them could be something.  I'm not convinced they are fossils or skulls but I wouldn't dismiss that they might be either.  You need boots on the ground or failing that lots of pictures from other angles to confirm it is not paradeliawoteveritscalled.

I agree that some Mars images warrant further study.  I think there is very good chance there is life on Mars now but we aren't looking in the right way.

On the other hand, if we have a base there then there must be life.

I am seeing a lander shaped object, reflecting light in a manner more akin to a flat metal surface than the surrounding rock.  It looks like a different material to anything else in the pictures.  I can also see the lander arm quite clearly LOL 

I have a strong side interest in astrobiology in case you didn't know.  I am also into consciousness research and alternative energy research but I'm not a physicist.  My "field" is molecular biology especially brain and neuropharmacology stuff but I might be moving sideways to another research focus soon.  Watch this space.  I spent a number of years out of science (specifically out of the lab) to pursue business interests and working for the gubmint.

If I didn't think there was anything to find I wouldn't waste my time with astrobiology.  It is still healthy to remain sceptical about any claim, from BOTH SIDES of the debate.  There is too much one-sided pseudoscepticism.

That last picture also reminds me of my arm and hand. 

ETA:  I also spent some time on UFOlogy.  I just had that squeezed out of me by time commitments.

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Any of them could be something.  I'm not convinced they are fossils or skulls but I wouldn't dismiss that they might be either.  You need boots on the ground or failing that lots of pictures from other angles to confirm it is not paradeliawoteveritscalled.

so why is it not the same for a photograph taken from a sat in space..

I have too many questions about this picture and not enough time to investigate . the original it was taken from .. which was not linked in any of the articles ive seen .. so atm we just have there word...

I agree that some Mars images warrant further study.  I think there is very good chance there is life on Mars now but we aren't looking in the right way.

even if that brings notion of triceratops on mars ?



great that I can now link to the images on ats btw

I am seeing a lander shaped object, reflecting light in a manner more akin to a flat metal surface than the surrounding rock.  It looks like a different material to anything else in the pictures.  I can also see the lander arm quite clearly LOL 

but that Lander arm looks human leg shaped .. doesn't that ring alarm bells with you ?

I have a strong side interest in astrobiology in case you didn't know.  I am also into consciousness research and alternative energy research but I'm not a physicist.  My "field" is molecular biology especially brain and neuropharmacology stuff but I might be moving sideways to another research focus soon.  Watch this space.  I spent a number of years out of science (specifically out of the lab) to pursue business interests and working for the gubmint.

If I didn't think there was anything to find I wouldn't waste my time with astrobiology.  It is still healthy to remain sceptical about any claim, from BOTH SIDES of the debate.  There is too much one-sided pseudoscepticism.

ahh good , a neurologist.. so what do you think to complex extremophiles ? I may have brought them up once or twice before ? how far can silicates and the otherwise thought of 'inert's' go in your opin ? do these elements have viability, to form complex nervous and neural structures to support sentience from non-carbon bases?

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but that Lander arm looks human leg shaped .. doesn't that ring alarm bells with you ?

No, it's the lander.

ahh good , a neurologist..

Molecular biologist who studies brain stuff.  A neurologist is a medic who studies or treats neurological illness.

so what do you think to complex extremophiles ?

Why not.  If single celled organisms can exist near hot springs, extreme desert and volcanic springs then surely it is possible for vertebrates to.  The question is could they evolve that way or be created.

I say created because humans are now at the point where we could direct our own genetics in the future.  We could make ourselves better adapted to other environments effectively making ourselves into extremophiles and adapting to colonising other environments (planets).

Have I said before that the Goldilocks Zone is complete nonsense?  Fact!

If there are breakaway civilisations looking to recruit an out of the box thinker with molecular genetics knowledge, give me a call. 

how far can silicates and the otherwise thought of 'inert's' go in your opin ? do these elements have viability, to form complex nervous and neural structures to support sentience from non-carbon bases?

Yes but carbon is probably better in water based life.  Other substrates perhaps.

In terms of other elements though, what about liquid ammonia environments?  Could there be jellyfish like beings with silicate genomes swimming in a sea of ammonia?  Neptune may have a water-ammonia mantle.

The only thing stopping us realising the possibilities for life is in the box thinking.

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No, it's the lander.

you did see Zorgon's video .. what part of those legs are even remotely comparable to what we see on the photo

where are the thin ankles for starters

Molecular biologist who studies brain stuff.  A neurologist is a medic who studies or treats neurological illness.

you saying i've got a brain injury ? eh,.. eh ?

Why not.  If single celled organisms can exist near hot springs, extreme desert and volcanic springs then surely it is possible for vertebrates to.  The question is could they evolve that way or be created.

I say created because humans are now at the point where we could direct our own genetics in the future.  We could make ourselves better adapted to other environments effectively making ourselves into extremophiles and adapting to colonising other environments (planets).

Have I said before that the Goldilocks Zone is complete nonsense?  Fact!

If there are breakaway civilisations looking to recruit an out of the box thinker with molecular genetics knowledge, give me a call. 

ide  say were on a page that looks the same

hell to one, paradise to another.. who are we to judge

Yes but carbon is probably better in water based life.  Other substrates perhaps.

In terms of other elements though, what about liquid ammonia environments?  Could there be jellyfish like beings with silicate genomes swimming in a sea of ammonia?  Neptune may have a water-ammonia mantle.

The only thing stopping us realising the possibilities for life is in the box thinking.

its the other substrates im most interested in , did you see the rockophiles ive posted before in the past ?, seemingly rock like but with undulating bases, sometimes markings sometimes not, hug the ground or other rocks like slugs. the appearance of adherence , wouldn't it be ironic if we were looking life in the face, rocklife in a rock garden, feeding on rocks.. but slow, like a tree


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so how is it that the images don't now appear.?

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cant even be less than an hour..


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you did see Zorgon's video .. what part of those legs are even remotely comparable to what we see on the photo

where are the thin ankles for starters

Perhaps its a human trapped beneath a fridge on a comet with very low gravity and almost no atmosphere. 

you saying i've got a brain injury ? eh,.. eh ?

I'm saying you've been taking molecules!

ide  say were on a page that looks the same

The problem with career academics and government employed scientists is that they are afraid of being open about it.  Lets face it, I am not the only one who can see that we KNOW life exists outside Goldilocks conditions.   We don't know of many places apart from extremely high temperatures where life can't survive (albeit sometimes in a dormant state.

Space? Sea Plankton on Space Station? Russian Official Claims It's So

How about bacteria that have survived since the early dinosaurs? Isolation of a 250 million-year-old halotolerant bacterium from a primary salt crystal

Don't forget scientists using a rover could not find life in the US desert even when the rover drove through huge dinosaur footprints!  They are stuck in-the-box and don't know how to think their way out.

wouldn't it be ironic if we were looking life in the face, rocklife in a rock garden, feeding on rocks.. but slow, like a tree

It might be ironic but it would not be surprising at all.  There are metalophiles too (meteorites).

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Perhaps its a human trapped beneath a fridge on a comet with very low gravity and almost no atmosphere. 

or just a rock with some pertinent highlights

I'm saying you've been taking molecules!

tetrahydracannabinol molecules...never

The problem with career academics and government employed scientists is that they are afraid of being open about it.  Lets face it, I am not the only one who can see that we KNOW life exists outside Goldilocks conditions.   We don't know of many places apart from extremely high temperatures where life can't survive (albeit sometimes in a dormant state.

the royal society and co don't like it when you step out of line ... look what happened to Bill Oddie , Johnny Ball, or David Kelly

It might be ironic but it would not be surprising at all.  There are metalophiles too (meteorites).

we're on the same page

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the royal society and co don't like it when you step out of line ... look what happened to Bill Oddie , Johnny Ball, or David Kelly

Scientists working on programmes that don't officially exist are likely to be most open about outside-the-box thinking for obvious reasons.  The problem is that people always question their credibility. The mainstream stifles openness.

ETA:  Has this thread been off topic or what?

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Scientists working on programmes that don't officially exist are likely to be most open about outside-the-box thinking for obvious reasons.  The problem is that people always question their credibility. The mainstream stifles openness.

ETA:  Has this thread been off topic or what?

mirror synergy at its best , one of their favourite games, the more ironic in meaning and execution ,.. I guess they get kicks somewhere
sadly not kicks where it hurts though :/

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not really , its possible that what assa have photographed is a human box like mutation, banished to an icy world, aeons ago, think ill name it Leggy

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so how is it that the images don't now appear.?

ATS now doesn't allow "hotlinking" to the images hosted on their servers, you can see them if you open ATS in another tab in your browser and refresh the page, that's what I did.

When the session on ATS ends you have to do it again to be able to see the images. People that do not do this cannot see the images, although they are still available.