Donald Trump finally admits that Obama was born in USA

[rdunk]

Dyna said, "As for the situation of blacks in the US the whole thing is still like a raw sore
The Emancipation Proclamation was an executive order issued by President Lincoln on January 1, 1863. How many generations is that? In the 60's in the South my Brother Carson home from Vietnam with his best friend who was black was not able to have drinks with his friend in a place that STILL did not serve blacks!"

Dyna, as I am sure that you at least KNOW. "in the 60's" was a far different time relative to black/white people issues. Since that time white people and black people have "GROWING UP TOGETHER" in all school years. That is a humongous difference making reality for growing a stable life of peaceful integration of all races. Segregation, which totally pretty much precluded integration has, for all practical purposes, been in the real process of being phased out. Most younger people today have gone to integrated schools, and have grown up having white/black friends, with now even many multi-race marriages.

With some "bumps in the road" integration has begun to work really well, all things considered!! But, certain fringe elements/fringe black individuals still keep stirring the pot for their personal financial gain. And then, we elect a black President whose goals include re-opening all of the racial wounds, and at least news wise, has made the racial tensions far worse than they have been for many years - a huge setback from where white/black relationships has progress to!!

[ArMaP]

Is it? I don't know what it is like in other countries, but wasn't slavery stopped in Europe long before the US? More time?

Yes and no.

Slavery ended in Portugal in 1761, but not on the colonies, where it only ended in 1869.

[rdunk]

The US was not the only country with slaves, why is it the country where that old problem is so active today? I think that's the real problem.

You are right ArMaP! Less than 10% of the African slave trade came to North America!!

An example article: http://www.inquisitr.com/1830533/black-history-less-than-10-percent-of-slaves-actually-came-to-north-america-transatlantic-slave-trade-where-did-they-all-go/

[burntheships]

So has Clinton actually accused Obama of not being born in the USA?

The members of Pegasus seem to have lost their powers of investigation too.  People accusing her of doing it is not evidence she did it. 

Since Peggy does not have a "political forum", I have refrained
from posting anything here aside from a casual comment,
maybe others do the same?

If she did it it would be all over the media with the clip of Clinton accusing him because the Washington Post have printed that it is a false accusation.  Well where is the proof she did it?

If she did do it then she should apologise. 

Pim, first you need to go back to 2008 when this issue
bubbled up to the surface. Hillary's long time
cloistered freind Sidney Blumenthal was actually
banned from the White House by Obama himself
because he and Hillary conspired to this birther
story, and they did start it and spread it.

Sidney approached a journalist shopping the
story, and tried to sell it.

Hillary will never admit to anything, even if she
were conicted. Don't hold your breath waiting.

Where did the birther story start?

Those in or near the political or journalistic mainstream who traffic in the scum can get tainted. Sidney Blumenthal, a Clinton adviser, was criticized after the liberal Huffington Post blog revealed that he was circulating anti-Obama screeds, though there was no claim that he wrote them.

The Blumenthal example shows why it's unlikely that any campaign or political professional is associated with creating the sordid stuff — the fallout would be a political nightmare, Germany said.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article24483037.html

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit.244157/

Obama campaign manager in 2008 accused the Clinton campaign
of "shameful offensive fear-mongering" ...
and McClathcy News Service reported Blumenthal had "told
me in person" that Obama was born in Kenya.

Read more at above link.

[Pimander]

Pim, first you need to go back to 2008 when this issue
bubbled up to the surface. Hillary's long time
cloistered freind Sidney Blumenthal was actually
banned from the White House by Obama himself
because he and Hillary conspired to this birther
story, and they did start it and spread it.

So why did he make Hilary Secretary of State then?  He clearly wouldn't ban one from the White House but give the other the second highest office in the land if he blamed them equally.  Nor would he endorse Clinton for President surely.

If Blumenthal did it then he should apologise but that does not mean Trump shouldn't.  I have looked back to 2008 and the only evidence I can find is two people saying Blumenthal said he was born in Kenya in private.  But as I say, if that is the case then he should apologise.  It looks straight forward to me.

Ultimately though it is just a distraction for me.  A way of Trump trying to steer blame for his own reckless espousal of  the accusation.  If Trump knows now that Obama was born in the USA what information does he have that he didn't have in the past?  None I assume.

If he can't apologise then see above.

If Clinton did say this publicly then there must be video of her doing it.  If any member can find it then they really should produce the footage.

Hillary will never admit to anything, even if she
were conicted. Don't hold your breath waiting.

I thought I'd check whether she ever apologises.

Hillary Clinton apologizes for e-mail system: 'I take responsibility'

Although I'd personally prefer not see Clinton or Trump in office, I do see a difference here.  Can't you start the whole process off again. 


My opposition to both candidates is simple.  I want to see the banks, fuel, infrastructure, hospitals, pharmaceutical industry, currency and supply of arms to be controlled not by an elite capitalist cabal but in the interests of people and planet.  Neither candidate is for this from what they have said they will do in office.  Neither will solve the problems of the world.

[Phedre]

Neither will solve the problems of the world.

No,  America, will no longer be the power to look to, for curing the Worlds ills or creating them, as has been going on for the last 8 years and a lot longer than that. But most in your face the last 8yrs. The Obama policies, that have been implemented for "World Domination" are failing. People are waking up. I am NOT saying that the Policies that Obama has been following are his, but that of his puppet masters, but in his own actions of being the implementor of said abhorent policies, he gets the blunt of my blame.

We have been at War for quite sometime, with out actual bombs being dropped on most from a foreign country. It is a war of Propaganda and you are known by which side you "feed", many have no idea what is happening, as they are stuck with the Media and certain publishers,  that have made an art out protecting the Elite, from themselves and everybody else. We are running out of time for choosing sides. For me it is easy, I will always vote to keep America's Sovereignty intact.

Evil against our fellow man, is an "Equal Opportunity" employer, it does not care about race , color or creed. I leave everyone to their own choices.

[astr0144]

Not managed to really read or think about this thread so far, only very quickly browsed it so far..

Not sure if this may also relate to it ...

This is from the ex Mi6 agent that Ive recently been following trying to determine if I think he is fear mongering as ArMaP suggests..or if he may have some validity..

Obama Changed His Name in Canada?
Attorney Pidgeon claims he found a record for a name change from "Barak Mounir Ubayd" to "Barack Hussein Obama" on October 14th, 1982 in Skookumchuck, British Columbia




This raises an important question. There is so much wrong with Obama's paperwork he could not have done this alone. Some agency or organisation has put him there, covered up all the errors; so WHY? Is he the classic 'Manchurian Candidate'? Will he make it through full term? What is his role? He obviously is only taking orders, just like Shrub, so what purpose does this serve? This could all be about to come out into the open, because as the Clintons go down they will take Obama with them and all the corruption that goes with it. They cannot between them murder enough people to keep this quiet. Be assured.

Oh! Wow ! Oh Boy ! You have to listen to this. It is deep, way down the rabbit hole. Now we understand why they have guillotines stored up and masses of plastic coffins (fact). The sub text just popped out of the bottle. The objective is to use the Presidential elections to create mass unrest on the streets of the USA; to bring in Marshall Law, Obama will justify staying on and you in the States are walking blind and blinkered into a very well engineered plan for a complete take over Dictatorship in the name of security. This explains all of the crazy dots on the page.It also explains the invasion of Europe by perhaps 3 million able young men supposedly just poor economic refugees and why their countries were destroyed to drive them North and the false hopes of the NWO that they will remain in control but as before the monsters they have created are now of their own volition and out of the control of their makers. So many mistakes, so much blind stupidity and so damn logical and well worked out. For Heavens sake wake up America as you wander, guided towards the abyss from which you may never recover. This is the most detailed analysis of the apparently unrelated data which I have ever heard in half century of Intel analysis. Code Yellow. Public Domain. God help you All.

The World is heading into very troubled waters. Insiders like myself see December 2016 as critical not least from the turmoil of the American post elections period, but also more importantly from natural events that are coming upon you all and which I want you to be very aware cannot be ignored by the safety of you denial or day to day comfort zone. I may not be able to issue more precise warnings at the 'last moments' as they (who are they?) are already starting to interfere with my communications and when the Pacific disasters happened they did not warn the people at all, "for fear of public panic", quote, unquote. You have been lulled into a sense of false security by so many false alarms, people crying "Wolf", Hey! 2012 never happened, see you were all wrong. No, it didn't happen because it was in fact 2008. The Popes screwed up the calendars because they forgot the quarter days of the years which is why they are out by 4 years. TAKE NOTE NOW. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. There will not be a WORLD WAR III, just regional wars again. Putin only has to wait. You do not enter a theatre of war to win, you endure, you wait and allow the enemy to loose. I know; I was not an Advisor for half a century not to know the rules of the great game.

People, Friends I am going to repeat a warning given by NASA to its employees some while ago. If you reside by the American coasts, move inland, get higher. I used to live in Florida once, 11 feet above sea level and I was 30 miles inland. This is not good. I trust I may be wrong, I hope I may be wrong but Florida was a swamp before they drained it. It could return to being largely a swamp with sea level rises of 6 feet over the next two years. The evidence is all there before you. Make the decisions now while you can, not when the highway is jammed with traffic running away. Note the film 2012. This year 2016 and early 2017 is 2012 as foretold.

From a readers reply who seems to relate some of it from the likes of Alex Jones & J.V......

Yes agreed been following for some time, Obama is in there because they can control him.. He dose what they want or go to prison-that is why he is covered Hillary she can take him down as well.. If marshal law he stays , military has ramped up for last few + years , FEMA camps -gas lines -guillotines- plastic coffins , Jesse Ventura cover this.. The FEMA camp where designed to keep people in - not out NWO by design.. Hummm ? All the back roads/ hwys have been closed threw national forests/ BLM land even log roads to corral the mass egress of this type of events, even closed to horseback

[Pimander]

Obama Changed His Name in Canada?
Attorney Pidgeon claims he found a record for a name change from "Barak Mounir Ubayd" to "Barack Hussein Obama" on October 14th, 1982 in Skookumchuck, British Columbia

Pitures or it didn't happen! 

The objective is to use the Presidential elections to create mass unrest on the streets of the USA; to bring in Marshall Law, Obama will justify staying on and you in the States are walking blind and blinkered into a very well engineered plan for a complete take over Dictatorship in the name of security.

When this does not happen we can safely say this is nonsense. Agreed?

[Pimander]

We have been at War for quite sometime, with out actual bombs being dropped on most from a foreign country.

I'm puzzled as to why you discuss war and complain about Obama in the same breath?

Gulf War:  Bush
Iraq War: Bush
Afghan War: Bush
War on Drugs: Bush

Obama should/could have done more to end the conflicts for sure but it does not look like one President can be held responsible for the war situation.

[Dyna]

I'm puzzled as to why you discuss war and complain about Obama in the same breath?

Gulf War:  Bush
Iraq War: Bush
Afghan War: Bush
War on Drugs: Bush

Obama should/could have done more to end the conflicts for sure but it does not look like one President can be held responsible for the war situation.

I think Obama just does things more quietly. Like his plane load of cash to Iran he does things without talking about it for his own reasons. personally I think every single one of them have been hand selected by their higher ups and there is no difference they are simply tools working on the big plan so there is zero difference between them.
They are all legs of the spider that carried the fat body!

Obama has also embraced special-operations forces. In fiscal year 2014, U.S. special-operations forces deployed to 133 countries, or roughly 70 percent of the entire world, The Nation reports. General Joseph Votel, the commander of SOCOM, has said, "The command is at its absolute zenith. And it is indeed a golden age for special operations." The size of SOCOM has expanded by almost 25 percent since Obama took office, increasing from 55,800 people to 69,700, according to McGraw at SOCOM.

Some of what he has done including spending much more on military is here.
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/03/obama-doctrine-wars-numbers/474531/

[astr0144]

You seem confident that it wont happen !

I only hope that you are right ..

But I do have quite a feeling of being uncertain what may happen in the next 6 to 12 months...
and I could envision that there could be some nasty surprises..or maybe part expectations that we hope do not happen...

Ex Mi6's comments on the banking system ....
That I would not count out could become a problem..

Plunging European Bank Stocks Are Devastating the Banks
Key bank stocks in Europe are trading at levels lower than in the depths of both the global financial crisis (2009) and the European sovereign debt crisis (2012).
euro crisis
Just one week before it wanted to release its financial results, it already issued a profit warning to the markets, and Deutsche Bank's capitalization has lost in excess of 5B EUR since the profit warning, on top of seeing an additional 18B EUR set of devastating losses since last summer. Deutsche Bank's trading is now less than 50% of the share price it was trading at in July of 2015. In short, the bottom is falling out of the European banks and there is no end in sight to the carnage.
deutsche bank

When this does not happen we can safely say this is nonsense. Agreed? 

[Dyna]

People, Friends I am going to repeat a warning given by NASA to its employees some while ago. If you reside by the American coasts, move inland, get higher.

Well we are having really weird loud formations here west coast northern end.two days ago they were identical to the ones shown before China quake and today they are weird long streamers coming off the coast and inland.

These are far apart and from my location and can see 5 rows through the trees.
the chinese ones since I didn't have the camera the other day.

Right now.

[spacemaverick]

From Burntheships

Since Peggy does not have a "political forum", I have refrained
from posting anything here aside from a casual comment,
maybe others do the same?

Having looked through the thread, having a "political forum" within a forum would probably foster more arguments rather than discussion.  People get passionate about their beliefs and all too often it becomes one sided and argumentative.  I have wanted to start a thread on a controversial subject but have refrained because it would probably inflame others.  The subject of Hillary versus Trump and what Obama has done and where he was born is of no consequence at this juncture.  People are going to vote the way they are going to vote.  However, it has been proven by 3 Princeton students that voting machines can be hacked and changed.  Most politicians have their own agendas anyway. My 2 cents for what it's worth which is probably nothing.

[Dyna]

sorry about dbl pictures post.plus I realized to late really off topic.

[burntheships]

Having looked through the thread, having a "political forum" within a forum would probably foster more arguments rather than discussion. 

Agreed, I dont think a political forum
fits with Peggy, too small of a membership
for one reason.

[qoute] I have wanted to start a thread on a controversial subject but have refrained because it would probably inflame others.  The subject of Hillary versus Trump and what Obama has done and where he was born is of no consequence at this juncture.  People are going to vote the way they are going to vote.  However, it has been proven by 3 Princeton students that voting machines can be hacked and changed.  Most politicians have their own agendas anyway. My 2 cents for what it's worth which is probably nothing.
[/quote]

Indeed, the voting machines and hackery is a
real problem, I read somewhere that DHS is
potentially involved, which does nothing to
alleviate my concerns ...

I always like to hear what you have to say.