Ok, no planes...but....passenger list, who are these names?

Started by larishira, September 29, 2016, 05:29:54 PM

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larishira

Ok...there´s no plane...thats a fact....but the passangers...the list...the whole scene they calling to their familys to say bye...whathever...
My dad ask me...and i cannot find a answer for this question!!!
"The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear"

Pimander

Are you referring to the Ukraine flight that was "shot down"?

larishira

"The quieter you become, the more you are able to hear"

Dyna

Quote from: larishira on September 29, 2016, 05:29:54 PM
Ok...there´s no plane...thats a fact....but the passengers...the list...the whole scene they calling to their familys to say bye...whathever...
My dad ask me...and i cannot find a answer for this question!!!

I suppose it would be possible to have false reports from false loved ones and false passenger lists and all.
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ArMaP

It's interesting that the video starts with a supposed Adolf Hitler quote that I couldn't find anywhere. :)

Yes, you shouldn't believe any thing you see just because you see it on the papers, magazines, TV or Internet, including videos like these.

zorgon

Quote from: larishira on September 29, 2016, 05:29:54 PM
Ok...there's no plane...that's a fact....but the passangers...the list...the whole scene they calling to their family's to say bye...whatever...
My dad ask me...and i cannot find a answer for this question!!!

Well the Red Cross raised MILLIONS of dollars for those airplane victim families. Where did that money go? Very little was paid out.

Usually in any plane crash of any kind, they reassemble bits of the plane at the FAA warehouse. This was NOT done on 911...

There have been several cases where people that were supposed to have died in those planes show up to be alive...

It is easy to plant actors and false families.  Sure many did die in the tower collapse... but has nayone REALLY followed up on those passenger lists? Or did everyone just take the word of the 'authorities' as to who was on those planes?

The public is a fickle audience... they soon forget and don't care unless it effects them directly. The general public is also to blinded by trust that their minds cannot grasp the enormity of the act  even though the pentagon already had the same plan laid out for Cuba in 1954 (Operation Northwoods)

Its just to unfathomable for them to believe.

Just show your father the picture of Edna Crinton standing in the hole where the "plane" was supposed to have crashed and the fuel was supposed to be hot enough to melt steel. See how he explains her being there :P


zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on October 02, 2016, 11:28:57 AM
It's interesting that the video starts with a supposed Adolf Hitler quote that I couldn't find anywhere. :)

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/adolf_hitler.html

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36:  "Through clever and constant application of propaganda, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way round, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise."

http://www.quotesigma.com/50-famous-quotes-adolf-hitler/

ArMaP

I was talking of real sources, a site that repeats a supposed quote without saying when it was originally used means nothing. :)

Pimander


ArMaP

Quote from: Pimander on October 12, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
That image only demonstrates that there wasn't a "blazing inferno" there, it demonstrates nothing about the solidity of the building's structure.

Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on October 12, 2016, 01:36:53 PM
That image only demonstrates that there wasn't a "blazing inferno" there, it demonstrates nothing about the solidity of the building's structure.
I'm just posting the picture because Z mentioned it.

I have my doubts that a fire would collapse the building but I am not certain one way or the other.  A lot of engineers and architects doubt the official story so I think it is stupid to not be sceptical about 9/11.  Yes, sceptical can include being sceptical of the official story AND the conspiracy theory. :)

Sgt.Rocknroll

Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini Tuo da gloriam

Pimander

Sorry guys but this always irritates the hell out of me.  Are births and death records public the same as in the UK?  Here all births and deaths are recorded in the registry of births and deaths.  That is how we know who is British and alive.  You have similar surely?

If you do have similar then this is not something difficult to determine.  If it happened here I could tell you without much doubt whether real people appear to have died on the plane.  I could follow up by checking local records to find the addresses and places of work of people and check that their friends, relatives, workplaces and schools mourned their passing.

???

zorgon

Quote from: Pimander on October 12, 2016, 01:41:08 PM
I have my doubts that a fire would collapse the building but I am not certain one way or the other.

Look... it doesn't take a rocket scientist :P   Just watch the video... jet fuel burns in a very quick ball of flame. LOOK AT THE DAMN VIDEO :P and count the seconds from 'impact'  The jet fuel fireball lasts exactly 7.5 seconds MOST of it outside the building... SEVEN AND A HALF SECONDS and the jet fuel is gone  POOF The picture of Edna proves that only a few office fires are still burning, not hot enough to even scorch her white pants.

Now go out and get some gasoline and pour it over a small steel bar....  Count the number of seconds that it takes for that gasoline to even get that small steel bar red hot, never mind melt.

I thought you were a scientist :P  If anyone can believe that 7.5 seconds of a jet fuel plume can melt those steel core beams then there is no hope for humanity and the Aliens need to eradicate us immediately :P

problem is NO ONE actually does the math as it were. No one has yet shown jet fuel melting even a small piece of steel.

And besides that if you know anything about burning jet fuel, the fuel itself does not burn. The heat comes from the fumes above the fuel and the steel would have to be above that to get hot.  So take five gallons of gasoline and set it on fire....  see how much steel you can melt with that and get back to me

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zorgon

Look at the time stamps...  one POOF and the fuel is gone. gasoline gets hot expands to vapour then goes up in a fireball... try it at home :P

But NOTICE  That MOST OF THE PLUME IS OUTSIDE THE BUILDING!!!!!!!