I Thought Rothschild Stuff Was BS......Until

[Eighthman]

http://rinf.com/alt-news/editorials/email-lynne-forester-de-rothschild-hillary-clinton-elizabeth-warren/

Yep, I used to think all this Rothschild stuff was bullsh*t.  Hillary acts obsequious to them, takes directions about Senator Warren's opposition to banks and appreciates their help in pushing her towards the White House.

The trouble with conspiracy theories is that so many of them turn out to be true.

[zorgon]

Where have YOU been hiding? 



https://www.rothschild.com/

[Eighthman]

There's lots of rich people who go to orgies, take drugs, drive race cars, etc.  What I was lacking was proof that they pull strings to control politics.

[RUSSO]

There's lots of rich people who...

The key word is "rich"

politics = follow the money 

[zorgon]

There's lots of rich people who go to orgies, take drugs, drive race cars, etc.  What I was lacking was proof that they pull strings to control politics.

Of what USE is MONEy if you can't buy an election or two

[Phedre]

Wasn't sure where to post this, I see things as All  connected and very complicated.  I see things as ALL connected.


These 13 Families Rule the World: The Shadow Forces Behind the NWO

Quote:
"An increasingly number of people is becoming aware that 99% of the Earth's population is controlled by an "elite" 1%, but the Council of the 13 families consists of less than 1% of the 1% "elite" and nobody on Earth can apply for membership."

"In their opinion, they are entitled to rule over the rest of us because they are the direct descendants of the ancient gods and consider themselves royal. These families are:

Rothschild (Bauer or Bower)Bruce  ,   Cavendish (Kennedy) ,    De Medici ,    Hanover  ,   Hapsburg    , Krupp   ,  Plantagenet     Rockefeller ,    Romanov  ,   Sinclair (St. Clair)   ,  Warburg (del Banco)    , Windsor (Saxe-Coburg-Gothe)
Quote:
"(Personally, I suspect that this may not be the complete list and some very powerful lineages are still unknown to us)."

"The Rothschild dynasty is unquestionably the most powerful - visible - bloodline on Earth and their estimated wealth is around $500 trillions!"

    You will see on this site a pyramid that shows companies . I propose that these are" Shell Companies" which are not only useful for tax evasion and etc, but also can also make anonymous Who's Money is really in the Pot. Like Hillary's fake  "Foundation" it is a " Shell Foundation" meaning that it is protecting all the "Donors Names" but it is being illegally used as a tax dodge for the Clintons , as they are the ones who should be paying the taxes on the donations used for their own political enhancement. The Clinton Foundation is a MESS! (Understatment)

Back to the Really Big money in the world, which also involves Hillary, who owns and runs Hillary? Who is she working for, it's certainly not the people! There is no money in that for her. Who has the money to buy her, her  own personal Media, to buy the White House, the DOJ, the IRS, the FBI, ALL OF WHICH MAKE HER THE MOST "UNTOUCHABLE"  human on Earth! Laws for every body, but the "Elite".

Trump you say, is the problem ! In the food chain of the Elites, he is nothing more, than a poor spot of crap on the bottom of the elites shoe. Win or lose, the true Elites will destroy him or die trying. Which won't take much, he is a no-body in the scheme of things, how he has become such an irritant to the real money of the World, is almost a paranormal phenomena , to me.

For some strange reason these ,powerful World Elites, need to be "Legitimized " by a Clinton driven win of the US White House,  A clean win, not needed.! And perhaps their only flaw. The American People have noticed, well most.  The people seem to intuitively know that a cliff is coming up FAST.




http://humansarefree.com/2014/10/exposing-shadow-forces-behind-nwo.html

[zorgon]

What I find amusing is that people tout this system as being the NWO when in reality it is the OWO doing business as usual

What you have to do is steer a path that avoids all this Elite stuff.

Sure you cannot join their gang, but you CAN use their tools for yourself  and find a small patch, an oasis, within the system where you can go about your business without them noticing you

Is it easy? No of course not  Nothing worthwhile come easy

You do have to be willing to "pay the piper"  or if you prefer "pay the Devil his Due"

But today with the internet it is realtively easy IF you are willing to put out the effort... to make money free and clear of the system


And to use the system for your own benefit without selling your soul

But YOU need to do it  no one will hand it to you on a silver platter

[Eighthman]

In regard to this NWO/OWO stuff, I'd like to add Hillary herself.  She is an enigma. How so?

If you follow the emails and other exposures, you get a picture of an utterly hollow human being. No moral compass, no grand design, nothing.  She strangely looks to Soros or the Rothschilds or the CFR or some other power group for direction as if she was completely bereft of any great plan. It's weird to me.

Think about Hitler and Mein Kampf or Lenin or Stalin or any other authoritarian and they know what they want, even if evil.  I don't comprehend this 'order taking' , it's as if she's more simple ego than even Trump (build stuff?).

OTOH, you could argue that the order we see is not the way things work. The President has been reduced to a figure head with little independent ability, perhaps.  Is the world directed by a Cabal and she proves it? It starts to look that way especially when the media is so obsequious.

[ArMaP]

If you follow the emails and other exposures, you get a picture of an utterly hollow human being. No moral compass, no grand design, nothing.  She strangely looks to Soros or the Rothschilds or the CFR or some other power group for direction as if she was completely bereft of any great plan. It's weird to me.

That's one thing I don't understand.

People that talk about the famous PTB talk about them as if they are all powerful, but then talk about other things as being out of control of TPTB. Although I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist and don't think that TPTB have all that power, I never though that they would allowed any party to present a candidate that wouldn't suit them, one way or another.

[Irene]

That's one thing I don't understand.

People that talk about the famous PTB talk about them as if they are all powerful, but then talk about other things as being out of control of TPTB. Although I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist and don't think that TPTB have all that power, I never though that they would allowed any party to present a candidate that wouldn't suit them, one way or another.

The fix is in. They're on cruise control until November 9th. You can be certain that the people who really run this show have everything under control.

[zorgon]

Although I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist and don't think that TPTB have all that power,

Well they don't have absolute power yet because if they did, we wouldn't be talking about it.  The fact that there is a 'cabal" somewhere at the top that seeks total world control is true enough... but what most people don't see is that there is another force that works just as hard for the good.

Unfortunately media doesn't cover that side much... and New Age "light workers" and groupies tend to take credit when good things happen.

At this point in time from my own observations I see both sides at about equal power, with perhaps a slight lean towards the evil.

But there is one undenialble truth about EVIL  It is by it's very nature, SELF DISTRUCTIVE.  You get ahead by taking out the guy above you. Since a crook has no morals there is nothing stopping them from taking advantage of other crooks to move up the ladder. in the end Evil destroys itself.... just look at history for the truth of that

On the other hand Good sometimes becomes apathetic and let's down it's guard. Good becomes trusting and blindly allow the Evil to flourish.  Only when Evil gets to strong does good say "OMG what have we let happen?"  And then the Sleeping Giant wakes. RThis too can be seen in history

It goes in cycles  Rome becomes a major power for the good of all Romans. But eventually corruption creeps in, and then soon you have a total collapse. masny Empires have come and gone because of thsi. It will happen again

People living the Good life get lazy and forget they still need to keep vigilant. They forget how to defend themselves and are soon pray for Evil

This is the way of Humankind  Has been since Cro Magnon man exterminated their rival Neanderthals

I don't see it changing anytime soon

[zorgon]

The fix is in. They're on cruise control until November 9th. You can be certain that the people who really run this show have everything under control.

Hmmm not so sure about that this time...

The fix may be in, but I think it will fail this time...

Americans have been (not so quietly) stocking weapons in record numbers as monthly sales have been at record level for months

Record numbers of voters came out in the primaties. In Utah they were lined up around the blocks in cold weather but they waited while the poling station said they ran out of ballots

I have seen the faces on the Joint Chief of Staff's at obama's LAST state of the Union address. These guys are ready to pop...



So I am going to watch this one closely. While the fix may be in, the fact that votger fraud has been repeatedly shown and proven has to matter.

Look at the Rally's  Trump pulls in hundreds of thousands  Killary barely can muster 3500  and her Vice pulled in only 35... You can only fix things so much  you can only cover up spo much

We shall see soon enough

[Eighthman]

I think the emails and other material give us a glimpse of an ad- hoc racy.  Superficial and loaded with spin and hype. Buzz words instead of good management.  And above all, lies.  I've known people like this - the sort that actually get angry if you don't accept their falsehoods.

I don't think they have any real plan.  The more you look at their "plans", the more nonsensical it becomes.  Stir up gun control and people panic buy ammo.  Bring Muslims to the EU and then wonder about emerging anti-semitism. Threaten military control and then find out that the Greatest Military On Earth can't hold territory or control insurgent populations.

I think there comes a point where the accumulated rot prevents their success.  In particular, I think sliding educational standards have reached the point where diplomacy doesn't work and weapons don't either. The Triumph of American Duh.

[Phedre]

A great conversation!

There definitely is a plan, whether you call it TPP, Agenda 21 or what ever. Here are some leaks Re: Hillary and her stance on the TPP, she has always has been for it , I do believe she was one of the creators, but of course she  has done a flip flop, for her public appearances .

10/23/2016

Some very interesting stuff. Including a 14 page Memo from Soros complaining that Obama is letting him down on the TPP organizing duties, side tracked by his (Obama) Muslim obsession. Well worth down loading and reading! It is down the page   under the title of The TPP and Malaysia's Corruption Crisis.

Leaked Soros Memo Exposes Obama's Secret TPP Negotiations; Hillary "Flip-Flopping"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-23/leaked-soros-memo-exposes-obamas-secret-tpp-negotiations-hillary-flip-flopping

[zorgon]

Seems that Soros backed the wrong Ponies  Bwahahahahaha

There may be hope for us yet