Nestle CEO: Water Is Not A Human Right,that Should Be Privatized & controlled

Started by astr0144, October 25, 2016, 05:26:47 PM

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astr0144

Nestle CEO: Water Is Not A Human Right, Should Be Privatized

The Former CEO of Nestle claims that water is not a human right and that it should be privatized and controlled.

I think they have tried to persuade us to accept Privatisation of Water and in some cases this may already apply. but does it and should it apply worldwide ?

IMO absolutely NOT !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_privatisation_in_England_and_Wales

Not sure about the validity of the website link below...but this would be hard to believe if he was suggesting that this was to apply to more than just our Standard general Water supply.. was even to apply to  collection of Rain water or drinking from natural sources !  :-\




Peter Brabeck-Letmathe, the now Chairman of one of the biggest corporations and the largest food product manufacturer in the world,  believes corporations should own all the water on the planet, and no one should be allowed to have access to it unless they pay.

He also states that GMOs have never caused illnesses despite hundreds of independent studies showing otherwise.

So, is water a free and basic human right, or should all the water on the planet belong to major corporations and the elite?

Should the poor who cannot afford to pay these said corporations suffer from starvation due to their lack of financial wealth?


http://yournewswire.com/nestle-ceo-water-is-not-a-human-right-should-be-privatized/

zorgon

Quote from: astr0144 on October 25, 2016, 05:26:47 PM
Nestle CEO: Water Is Not A Human Right, Should Be Privatized

The Former CEO of Nestle claims that water is not a human right and that it should be privatized and controlled.

Well that is not exactly what he said :P but... water is already privatized anyway.  Sure you can go down to a lake or river and scoop up some water and take it home, but how many people do you know that do that?  Can you drink that water?

Most people today prefer to PAY for their water from a tap or bottles as that water has been purified. And it is a lot more convenient to turn on a tap then go fetch buckets of water for your bath :P

What he says about mankind has the ability to improve on Nature means that we can now provide clean water.  You are still free to get water from a stream (with bear poop and all sorts of bacteria in it :P).. you are still free (in most states :P 0 to collect rain water and use that (filled with umpteen millions of chemical polutants)  but most people will prefer to pay for tap service to your home or buy bottled water

Too bad they cut off the rest of his speech though :P




Pimander

Quote from: zorgon on October 25, 2016, 07:02:04 PM
you are still free (in most states :P 0 to collect rain water and use that (filled with umpteen millions of chemical polutants)  but most people will prefer to pay for tap service to your home or buy bottled water
When I was a kid water was state owned but you had to pay "water rates" which were cheap.  They privatised it and now it costs more and they spend less on maintaining pipes so they can pay shareholders lots of money.

They also privatised the railways.  Obviously shareholders wanted big dividends so they saved money by spending less on maintenance.  Eventually there were crashes and an investigation.  That state had to bail out the private companies with taxpayers money and buy it back because the state could not allow the railways to just stop.  Then taxpayers footed the repair bill on top  So shareholders got their money back after destroying the railways and pocketing cash.

Infrastructure like water, energy and rail are essential for all people and businesses.  They should be owned by us all and run for the benefit of everybody, not shareholders.

astr0144

What you say "Z"  generally applies to the Western or 1st World Countries.

I think that the article and what I was referring to the whole World in general including poor 3rd World Countries who cannot afford to pay for their waters being given any sort of treatment.

Even maybe in some 1st World Countries.. there has been suggestions that its illegal to grow ones own vegetables in ones own garden in some parts of the USA.. or Alex Jones once indicated that to be so..

So if any persons who runs into some unfortunate situation and cannot afford to pay their water bills....they may have to find other ways to obtain water be it thru Rivers or collecting rain water.. and then they would at least be able to boil it to make it safer to drink..

but if the authorities suggested that was illegal to do so.. could we honestly agree to them bring in such laws !

That is the points that I am trying to make.

NO ONE should be able to suggest such laws IMO..

QuoteWell that is not exactly what he said :P but... water is already privatized anyway.  Sure you can go down to a lake or river and scoop up some water and take it home, but how many people do you know that do that?  Can you drink that water?

Most people today prefer to PAY for their water from a tap or bottles as that water has been purified. And it is a lot more convenient to turn on a tap then go fetch buckets of water for your bath :P

What he says about mankind has the ability to improve on Nature means that we can now provide clean water.  You are still free to get water from a stream (with bear poop and all sorts of bacteria in it :P).. you are still free (in most states :P 0 to collect rain water and use that (filled with umpteen millions of chemical polutants)  but most people will prefer to pay for tap service to your home or buy bottled water

Too bad they cut off the rest of his speech though :P

QuoteSo, is water a free and basic human right, or should all the water on the planet belong to major corporations and the elite?

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Should the poor who cannot afford to pay these said corporations suffer from starvation due to their lack of financial wealth?

zorgon

Quote from: astr0144 on October 27, 2016, 07:03:04 PM
I think that the article and what I was referring to the whole World in general including poor 3rd World Countries who cannot afford to pay for their waters being given any sort of treatment.

I don't agree that water should be privatized :P BUT as for 3rd world countries... WHY would you sh!t in your own drinking water then bitch about getting sick?



We can ignore it and let them rot in their own filth  or we can step in and privatze it and they get clean safe water...

Up at our cottage in Canada we have a spring fed lake. We draw water from it but it is poluted with gasoline and oil from boats and run off from oouthouses that are not properly built  So you really don't want to drink it, despite the fact that the springs renew it anually.

QuoteEven maybe in some 1st World Countries.. there has been suggestions that its illegal to grow ones own vegetables in ones own garden in some parts of the USA.. or Alex Jones once indicated that to be so..

You need to READ better :P What was 'illegal' was growing vegetables in your FRONT yard  and that was some stupid county officials. That went viral on the internet and was fixed :P 

QuoteSo if any persons who runs into some unfortunate situation and cannot afford to pay their water bills....they may have to find other ways to obtain water be it thru Rivers or collecting rain water.. and then they would at least be able to boil it to make it safer to drink..

In Nevada there is a law preventing the water company from shutting you off  They can put a lien on the property to collect but it is still a right to life issue. Also any restaurant has to give you free water if you ask.


QuoteNO ONE should be able to suggest such laws IMO..

True  so then "We the people..." need to get up a stop those law makers we elected from getting reelected :P

astr0144

In some cases these situations are down to corrupt Govts..who wont do anything for their own peoples best interests.

Otherwise is there other options to just privatization.

Often  we see Charities involved..as one other option.

QuoteI don't agree that water should be privatized :P BUT as for 3rd world countries... WHY would you sh!t in your own drinking water then bitch about getting sick?

We can ignore it and let them rot in their own filth  or we can step in and privatze it and they get clean safe water...

I initially seen it on a Alex Jones video.

Was not aware it had been resolved.

Not sure why it applied to Front yards.. but in the uk we often have gardens both in the back and sometimes also in the front of ones house (Front gardens maybe smaller)

but glad that  it going viral may have stopped such pathetic ideas..

QuoteYou need to READ better :P What was 'illegal' was growing vegetables in your FRONT yard  and that was some stupid county officials. That went viral on the internet and was fixed :P 

Interesting !

I have recently become aware that some Electric / gas companies now very rarely will cut you off if you don't pay on time. this may also apply to the Water companies in the U.K

How long can one get away with not paying I wonder before they have to take action..

I also recently have heard that in some case UK electric companys will pay your bills if you get into difficulties and that they have a govt fund to help do so..

whats going on I wonder.. this does not seem logical or govt like !  :o

yet if you do not pay a parking ticket worth less than $100 or £70 in the uk.. that eventually they will send bailiffs around, as the fee had increased to £530 ... which they want on the spot..or  they  threaten to take your car away or obtain goods from you from your house which they can only sell at auction for 10%...meaning they want £5300s worth of goods to make  the £530..

How do they get away with that !!!

QuoteIn Nevada there is a law preventing the water company from shutting you off  They can put a lien on the property to collect but it is still a right to life issue. Also any restaurant has to give you free water if you ask.


all such evils need addressing and putting right ! or seeing off !

never mind them wanting to kill us off it should be the other way around..

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True  so then "We the people..." need to get up a stop those law makers we elected from getting reelected :P

zorgon

Quote from: astr0144 on October 27, 2016, 10:05:15 PM

How long can one get away with not paying I wonder before they have to take action..

Good question

I know for a fact that you can get away not paying a mortgage for up rto 18 months on FHA before it becomes out of your control

QuoteI also recently have heard that in some case UK electric companys will pay your bills if you get into difficulties and that they have a govt fund to help do so..

you also see ads on TV for agencies that will help if you cannot afford medication

Quotewhats going on I wonder.. this does not seem logical or govt like !  :o

Simple :P It proves that not all government agencies are EVIL  That despite all the conspiracy stuff, we do actually have some people in office who get the things done If we didn't we would already have Chaos.

They just repaved all the roads in my area  Do imostly at night with a new machine that eats the old  remelts it and ads a little new stuff and relays it behind it... pretty efficient and fast



Quoteyet if you dont pay a parking ticket worth less than $100 or £70 in the uk.. that eventually send bailiffs around as the fee had increased to £532 which they want on the spot..or  they  threaten to take your car away or obtain goods from you from your house which they can only sell at auction for 10%...meaning they want £5000s worth of goods to make  the £500..

How do they get away with that !!!

They get away with it because you people LET them :P



Quotenever mind them wanting to kill us off it should be the other way around..

There is NO POINT in killing us off :P You cannot TAX those that you kill :P (The dead can vote it seems but can't be squeezed for tax money :P )


astr0144

Again interesting to know about such things..

But I wonder if they add on interest !

I ave found out that in certain cases to do with paying bills or fines that you can go quite some time before you have to pay up..for things like Electric / gas / water... 6 to 12 months in some cases.

QuoteGood question

I know for a fact that you can get away not paying a mortgage for up rto 18 months on FHA before it becomes out of your control

As long as they are for good intention purposes that seems a good type of offer / service... but if its to encourage people to take harmful meds as some conspiracy theories may suggest that may not be seen as being for the right reasons.

Quoteyou also see ads on TV for agencies that will help if you cannot afford medication

It makes a change to consider some parts of the Govt that way.
so much negative stuff we have been thru that opposes that .. makes it hard to accept any good stuff..too easily without there being some other negative agenda behind it..

QuoteSimple :P It proves that not all government agencies are EVIL  That despite all the conspiracy stuff, we do actually have some people in office who get the things done If we didn't we would already have Chaos

In most cases few people ever get to that stage and are not aware until it happens to them.. I am sure this applies to numerous things.. or laws in general..

then when it does happen to us we question it and wonder how they get away with it..

one would need to have studied law and be good at recalling it and have relevant life experience to really understand things sometimes or to  question it..

QuoteThey get away with it because you people LET them :P

That maybe true..

but at times I do not really understand the financial system or money..

They can crash the financial markets and then hold it back up using quantitative easing that they just create money and put it into the system to hold it up ..

They collect taxes from us from our labors if and when we are employed or work...

but they often also can have huge unemployment...where they are not collecting taxes from the unemployed..or have less and less jobs to create or offer.

Then they have often cut or made the benefit system much more complex or harder to deal with.. making it more easy for them to cut a persons benefits altogether...

but they do not have good jobs to offer and yet they brought in so much immigration that took away a lot of original peoples job opportunities away even though some no doubt have taken on jobs others may not want to do....

Then if they do think the world is over populated.. one may think that they may have reason to want to kill us off..and its not all about money to them.. if they do see over populations of humans as being a problem to  say the earths / planets resources..

what does one know what to believe !

Does money really have any meaning to them.. when they have printing presses that can create all the money that they need when they need it..

some of the economic and financial systems is manmade to suit the rich...and not everyone.

QuoteThere is NO POINT in killing us off :P You cannot TAX those that you kill :P (The dead can vote it seems but can't be squeezed for tax money :P )







ArMaP

Quote from: astr0144 on October 27, 2016, 11:17:18 PM
They can crash the financial markets and then hold it back up using quantitative easing that they just create money and put it into the system to hold it up ..

They collect taxes from us from our labors if and when we are employed or work...

but they often also can have huge unemployment...where they are not collecting taxes from the unemployed..or have less and less jobs to create or offer.

Then they have often cut or made the benefit system much more complex or harder to deal with.. making it more easy for them to cut a persons benefits altogether...

but they do not have good jobs to offer and yet they brought in so much immigration that took away a lot of original peoples job opportunities away even though some no doubt have taken on jobs others may not want to do....

Then if they do think the world is over populated.. one may think that they may have reason to want to kill us off..and its not all about money to them.. if they do see over populations of humans as being a problem to  say the earths / planets resources..

what does one know what to believe !
I think that's because although they have some power over other people they do not have power over everything, and some things are even beyond being affected by power and money.

Also, they know that they can pressure the people up to some point, but if they pressure them more they are going to react, and it will be violent.

zorgon

Quote from: astr0144 on October 27, 2016, 11:17:18 PM
But I wonder if they add on interest !
yes they do  What happems is they defer the payments so effectively you get a gap of no payment but they tack that interest on to the bill. Also you can incur late fees but not have to pay them until the end.  So you don't save money, but you get to keep the house  Once you go to far though the chances of losing increase rapidly