Standing Rock Pipeline Protest

[Irene]

I'll be completely honest here. I have zero tolerance for protesting hippies. In fact, I f***ing hate them. 

That being said, it sounds like this thing is, or will be, on private property, in which case the protesters haven't got a leg to stand on. I would, however, support efforts to avoid areas sacred to the NAs.

I wouldn't want the cemeteries where my people are buried disturbed either.

[thorfourwinds]

I have zero tolerance for protesting hippies.

I see. And would you mind sharing a bit further along that line?

Are you calling the water protectors "hippies?"

Speaking of hippies, just what did YOU do to end the Vietnam "War"?

Thanking you in advance for your time and consideration.


http://www2.readingeagle.com/article.aspx?id=183468
Hippies were outspoken, anti-war activists and anything but slackers

The so-called hippies as we know them today are often thought of as tie-dyed, dread-locked vegans who sit around on street corners singing about magic dragons named "Puff." These apathetic individuals do not compare to the revolutionary generation which came before them. The hippies of the 1960s were outspoken in their views and defined by their motivation for change. Also, they didn't have dreadlocks; those came later. Most importantly, hippies weren't all air-headed slackers as they are often thought of today.

In fact, the origins of "hippie culture" began in San Francisco, where many of the pioneers were educated at the University of California at Berkeley. The term "hippie" may have come from "hipster," a slang word dating back to the Jazz Age, according to published reports. The hippie ideas of self-awareness, social liberation and free thought then spread to Greenwich Village in New York City.

These original hippies stood for something, and by something I don't mean simply a vague motto like "peace, love and understanding." The hippies of the early 1960s were radical thinkers whose ideas stemmed from philosophical and religious influences alike. Much like the Beat Generation of the 1950s, young hippies found themselves disillusioned with what they viewed as the selfishly materialistic society of post-World War II America, according to published reports.

Hippies encouraged a better relationship with nature by starting organic farms and producing natural goods. Despite today's stereotype, real hippies were not lazy moochers. Many of them started communes on which members lived and worked together in a cooperative community. Some of these communes still exist today, such as Twin Oaks Community in Louisa, Va., a group known for making hammocks.

Of course, the defining feature of the 1960s hippies was their vehement opposition to the Vietnam War. The hippies viewed the United States presence in Vietnam as a corrupt, imperialist gesture by the U.S. government. Once again challenging the lazy stereotype, hippies of all ages would gather to protest the war by marching, holding sit-ins, organizing strikes or any means of gaining attention and support for their cause. At the same time, hippies worked to send aid in the form of food and supplies to the Vietnamese civilians most affected by the war, which garnered particular criticism from many pro-war detractors. Hippies also took part in civil rights campaigns and other social and political movements of the decade.

No account of hippie culture can fail to mention a widespread use of psychedelic drugs ranging from marijuana to LSD. Many hippies believed that using hallucinogens allowed them to pursue an alternate state of consciousness. The use of recreational drugs did not help to gain the hippie movement much credibility with mainstream America.

Love them or hate them, the hippie influence still has its hold on pop culture today. The folk and rock 'n roll music of the 1960s is still popular with younger generations, and also among some of the older hippies surviving from that generation. Hippie fashion remains popular, not only on Halloween but also in some high schools and on many college campuses, with what appears to be a rising trend in the use of organic cotton and hemp products. Although nothing has ever quite topped Woodstock in the category of music festivals, events such as Burning Man, held in Nevada's Black Rock Desert in late summer each year, are still popular attractions to the nouveau hippie of the 21st century.

[Irene]

So you're a hippie.   

[thorfourwinds]

Previous Standing Rock posts/videos all in one place:
https://www.rebelmouse.com/Thor_Anderson/




Sub-zero water-canons/ rubber bullets/ tear gas at Standing Rock




Native American month? A Dakota pipe-dream?
Russell Brand The Trews (E375)




11 Things To Know About Native Resistance To #NoDAPL It's not Burning Man.



http://www.ecowatch.com/standing-rock-thanksgiving-judy-wicks-2100355472.html?utm_source=EcoWatch+List&utm_campaign=266fb15bf6-MailChimp+Email+Blast&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_49c7d43dc9-266fb15bf6-85943521
Why I'm Going to Standing Rock for Thanksgiving

http://www.ecowatch.com/army-corp-eviction-dakota-access-pipeline-2111310242.html?utm_source=EcoWatch+List&utm_campaign=8345c0dad9-MailChimp+Email+Blast&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_49c7d43dc9-8345c0dad9-85943521
Army Corps Sends Eviction Notice to Standing Rock

Nov. 25, 2016 07:39PM EST




It's Time to Stand with Standing Rock




A Message To Cops Attacking Standing Rock Water Protectors




Standing Rock Resistance (On Contact special episode)

Published on Nov 26, 2016
On a special edition of On Contact, Chris Hedges travels to the Standing Rock encampment in North Dakota to listen to the frontline voices of those fighting to block the Dakota Access Pipeline.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/a-nodapl-map_us_581a0623e4b014443087af35

A #NoDAPL Map
This pipeline could endanger the drinking water of millions.




Standing Rock Press Conference - 11/26/2016

[petrus4]

Everything I've ever seen in relation to American police online over the last three years, has given me a very consistent image; one which has only been reinforced by Standing Rock.  Namely, that the vast majority of them are apparently wild, vicious, utterly psychopathic animals who revel in their authority, crave unprovoked violence, and are subject to neither rational nor emotional appeal regarding their actions.  There also seems to be an attitude of incredible elitism and insularity among them; other police are referred to as brothers, while the civilian population are exclusively regarded as the enemy.

Conservatives apparently support the police because they believe that said police exert a protective influence, and keep society safe from criminals.  Every indication I've seen tells me that in America at least, society needs a lot more protection from the police and the government themselves, than they do from any other group, whether internal or external.

Recently, here in Australia, I ultimately became unable to continue to watch Nimbin, as I had known it, being systematically dismantled due to fanatical cannabis enforcement and the abuse of new association legislation, which is itself utterly and single-mindedly fascist, and has been condemned as such by the public.

Police in these sorts of situations honestly don't seem to be capable of looking at context, or caring about it.  Some of them are there purely because they've been ordered to; others because they view violence against unarmed, untrained civilians as a form of recreation.  The one constant, however, is the lack of police dissent, and the fact that there does not seem to be any getting through to them.  It seems that they have entirely accepted their role as the government and corporate world's primary means of continuing to destructively exploit and oppress the civilian public.

The one thing I am curious about, is what police training involves these days; what is being done to them, to turn them into what we see in the footage coming back from the field.

[petrus4]

I'll be completely honest here. I have zero tolerance for protesting hippies. In fact, I f***ing hate them. 

I can be honest among similar lines.  Six years spent on Reddit, has taught me to utterly detest the activist Left to the point where, while I was living among them in Nimbin for three years, I could no longer do so.

More than anything else, Nimbin showed me that the Left are only interested in playing by the rules, as long as said rules are working in their favour.  They have no regard for the rule of law whatsoever, if it is an impediment to their interests.  The Left are nepotistic and hypocritical.  You are only a recipient of their generosity for as long as you check all of the correct ideological boxes.  If you give even the slightest indication of doing otherwise, on any point, you can be disowned and declared an enemy of the people very, very quickly.

Real justice is not and can not be biased.  It must be impartial, and it can not recognise any group in preference to any other.  Leftists who speak of injustice should not use the privelege fallacy to justify the abuse of groups they are opposed to.

So when I say that I think American police are completely out of control, this does not mean that I consider the Left innocent either.  I have seen the hatred of freedom in any form that the Left have, if said freedom enables thought, speech, or action that they do not agree with or approve of.

I am opposed to tyranny of any kind. 

I will not tolerate authoritarian Communists telling me how to think on Reddit, and I likewise do not accept police allowing themselves to be used as corporate mercenaries, and acting as traitors to carbon based life itself, by rendering assistance to said corporations in their ongoing efforts to destroy what is left of this planet's capacity to support life.  Both are wrong; and I think both need to be stopped.

[petrus4]

if these are the same indians massacred by feds in the 70s and also the indians attacked by custard.i suggest option b.as i grew up with one of them and they are giants and probably hold a grudge.two things that should be handled with kid gloves.with the general population pretty stressed already,this could turn upside down and sideways real quick.

The only way this is going to be stopped, is if people from other elements of society get involved.  By themselves, the indigenous have no power, and they never have.  Other than maybe New Zealand, I've never heard of a single armed confrontation between whites and any indigenous group, where said group did not get slaughtered.  They don't have the technology, and they don't have the aggression.  Tragically, the entire reason why they lose, is because they hold certain things sacred, and because they have compassion.  Whites care about nothing other than money and narcissistic supply, and will unquestioningly annihilate anyone or anything which is either not aligned with, or acts as an impediment to the attainment of either of those two objectives.

It is virtually impossible to successfully fight an enemy that does not care about its' own survival; and whites do not.

[Irene]

Petrus,

Well said.   

[thorfourwinds]

A wee bit of shiny for you, Petrus.

Thank you for that eloquent epistle.   

"We are wardens of this land. This is our land, and they can't remove us," protester Isaac Weston, an Oglala Sioux member from South Dakota, told The Associated Press on Saturday. "We have every right to be here to protect our land and to protect our water."

Stand With Standing Rock Mni Wiconi Water is Life

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dakota-pipeline-protests/army-corps-engineers-orders-dakota-pipeline-protesters-abandon-camp-n688476
Dakota Pipeline Protesters Vow to Stay Despite Army Corps' Order

Dakota Access Pipeline protesters vowed Saturday to remain in their camp after the Army Corps of Engineers told them to leave the federal land they've occupied.

Activists protesting the continued construction of the pipeline were told to shut down one of their camps by Dec. 5 in a letter sent to the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe's leader by the Army Corps.

But tribal leader Dave Archambault and other protest organizers made it clear that they planned to stay in the Oceti Sakowin camp — one of three camps near the construction site — which would have been shut down by the encampment.

Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds: Stand with Standing Rock - Live from Washington, DC 11/27/16

Though the Dave Matthews Band is on a hiatus, their two leading men Dave Matthews and Tim Reynolds are anything but. The two have made regular appearances at benefit performances in the latter half of 2016, and will continue that trend this Sunday, November 27th with a Stand With Standing Rock benefit concert that will feature Neko Case, Graham Nash, Ledisi, and Lakota Thunder, as well as Dave Matthews & Tim Reynolds.

Set to take place in Washington D.C. at the DAR Constitution Hall, organizers have teamed with Ben & Jerry's to provide a full length live stream of the event. Though the stream is free, fans are encouraged to donate to the Stand With Standing Rock cause.



http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2016/11/25/dave-matthews-standing-rock-concert-sells-out-one-day-livestream-sunday-166580
Dave Matthews Standing Rock Concert Sells Out in One Day

LiveStream this Sunday, 27 November 2016

The DAR Constitution Hall in Washington, D.C., will be rocking in support of the Standing Rock Lakota Sioux people on Sunday, Nov. 27, when alternative rock icon Dave Matthews joins guitarist Tim Reynolds for a special "Stand with Standing Rock" concert.

Concert proceeds will support the water protectors in their opposition to the Dakota Access Pipeline (DAPL). Matthews and Reynolds, who are in the midst of a national acoustic tour followed by a world tour next year, will be joined on the D.C. stage by indie rocker Neko Case, R&B and jazz singer/songwriter and actress Ledisi and Lakota Thunder, winners of a 2006 Nammy Award for Best Traditional Recording.

Tickets for the concert sold out the day they went up for public purchase Nov. 4.
Matthews visited the Oceti Sakowin camp in October and was recording singing at the overflowing camp by Izzy P on YouTube.

Dave Matthews singing at the overflow camp.

The event will live stream on YouTube here:

[Irene]

Yeah, that would be the same Dave Matthews Band who emptied their bus lavatory into the Chicago River and claimed it was a mistake.

No irony here.   

[thorfourwinds]

Yeah, at the time, it was THE laugh around the water cooler in the concert production business.

With little prompting, Matthews delved into the sensitive issue, saying "I'll apologize for that as long as I have to."

"The bus driver lost his job, and I didn't have my finger on the button, but it was one of our buses -- wasn't mine -- but it was one of the buses in my employment and so I feel bad about it," Matthews said. "It would be funnier if it was anyone else but me."

Matthews said he was on a plane when he first heard about the incident, and laughed about it because he didn't realize it was his bus. It wasn't until he landed that he learned that his bus was involved.

Source: Dave Matthews Still Apologizing For "Poopgate" | NBC Chicago http://www.nbcchicago.com/entertainment/celebrity/Dave-Matthews-Still-Apologizing-For-Poopgate.html#ixzz4RFtUxiCG

[petrus4]

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/dakota-pipeline-protests/army-corps-engineers-orders-dakota-pipeline-protesters-abandon-camp-n688476
Dakota Pipeline Protesters Vow to Stay Despite Army Corps' Order

Dakota Access Pipeline protesters vowed Saturday to remain in their camp after the Army Corps of Engineers told them to leave the federal land they've occupied.

That order is unfortunate.  It will cause conservatives who don't enjoy thinking, to become even more antagonistic towards the protesters.

We have a terrible problem, in this regard.  The Left now have virtually no regard whatsoever for the rule of law, because they have become accustomed to the law being nothing other than a weapon to be used against them by the corporate world.  In their minds, the law is nothing more than something said corporations can use to hide behind, in order to allow them to continue to engage in destructive behaviour.

There are times, however, when that attitude has been, and can be, carried too far; and the Leftist protests against the election of Donald Trump is a good example of that.  I am well aware that there are plenty of times when the law genuinely is abused by corrupt fascists for their own omnicidal ends; but at the same time, if the results of elections are not respected, then we no longer have democracy.

The one thing I am more afraid of here I think, than anything else, is the degree to which I have recently seen, that some (not all) police and soldiers are apparently beyond either rational or emotional appeal, in situations where injustice genuinely is taking place.  That is a problem that I don't know how we are going to overcome.

[thorfourwinds]

Thank you for your (as usual) excellent input, Petrus.   

Unfortunately, if the oil police goons attempt a physical removal of the Standing Rock Water Protectors on 5 December, this might well escalate into the "Kent State" of this confrontation.

Remember, there are thousands of veterans making their way to Standing Rock at this moment.

Having watched very carefully the videos of violent, malevolent actions of those cretins, I fear that some nitwit will chamber live rounds and fire upon the innocents in a fit of rage/cowardice.

We pray for a peaceful end to this travesty.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

www.nytimes.com/2016/11/26/us/dakota-pipeline-protest.html
Officials to Close Standing Rock Protest Campsite - The New York Times

Woman Shot with Rubber Bullet Could lose her eye

Published on Nov 25, 2016
Vanessa has been on the front lines fighting DAPL and working security for Oceti Sakowin since September 11. During the action on November 20 at the Backwater bridge, she was shot in the eye with a tear gas canister  6 feet away.  It was aimed directly at her face by a Morton County officer. She was seen at Bismark Sanford hospital and released because she had no insurance.  She has a detached retina and needs surgery to ensure her vision. She is now seeking medical attention in Fargo. Donations will be used for the cost of the 2 ER visits, surgery, medications, and recovery.


The following video is especially good as the drone footage shows how those 15,000 protectors are living on the frozen tundra. And the one after it caused me to contact Elon Musk and present the Standing Rock needs of solar energy.

Sunset At Standing Rock | #NoDapl Archives
Published on Nov 26, 2016





EXPLAINED: Standing Rock Shows Solar Is Superior To Fracking
Published on Nov 28, 2016

http://earthjustice.org/blog/2016-november/we-re-missing-90-percent-of-the-dakota-access-pipeline-story
WE'RE MISSING 90 PERCENT OF THE DAKOTA ACCESS PIPELINE STORY

By Raul Garcia | Tuesday, November 22, 2016

Over the past few months, the Dakota Access pipeline and the Standing Rock Sioux tribe that opposes this oil project went from anonymity to full blown national news coverage.

Since August, the news media has been reporting on the Native Americans who have gathered in camps in North Dakota to protect sacred land and the Missouri River, the Standing Rock tribe's sole water source.

For months, we have been informed only about the most dramatic developments, but I discovered after a visit to the Sacred Stone camp two weeks ago that public understanding of what this movement is all about is based on misrepresentations. We are missing how peaceful, respectful and solemn this struggle is.

This is unfortunate because what's happening at the confluence of the Missouri and Cannonball Rivers is a solemn struggle to protect water and culture.

As I prepared to make the trip, I read articles about the risks. And I fell for it. When I was flying into Bismarck, North Dakota, with a delegation from Green Latinos—a group of Latino advocates committed to addressing environmental issues—I was on edge. We had gone to North Dakota to learn how Green Latinos might be able to help the tribe, yet at first I concentrated on myself. I relentlessly googled "Standing Rock Sioux tribe arrests" and related key terms to figure out where I could or couldn't go and what I could or couldn't do.

But all that anxiety quickly evaporated when I reached the camps. I saw that this assembly of indigenous tribes and supporters is among the most serene and peaceful groups of people I have been around. They are not unified by indignity. What unifies the thousands of water protectors who are bracing for the incoming winter is devotion and prayer. In fact, elders and tribal leaders told us repeatedly that tribal camps aren't protests; these are ceremonies being held at a sacred place. And, they told us, they expect the behavior of their brothers and sisters to reflect that.

Even when we were talking about politics, the sacredness of it all was what tribe members conveyed as important. The respect of the people overcame any thought of animosity, and the solemnity of the place and the need to protect nature inspired peaceful unity.

This indigenous vision of sacred air, sacred water and sacred land was striking to me. I live in Washington, D.C., where polarized rhetoric dominates the landscape, and where, since the presidential election season, distasteful attacks are rampant. Visiting the camps and understanding the spirituality driving this struggle against corporate profit was an eye-opening and humbling experience.

Water protectors are constantly looking after one another, helping one another. They may not have a lot, but they are willing to give everything. I learned that not just by seeing how they would offer sweaters or blankets as temperatures dropped into the 20s, but also by listening to their stories.

One woman, who is now one of many who prepare meals for the camp for free, told me how she arrived with little besides her eagerness to help cook. She didn't have a stove, yet with people's donations she got everything she needed to help the camp in four days.

I have not seen a single news report that elevates this type of story. That's because peace may be what we value and aspire to as a nation, but peace doesn't generate clicks. Still, peace is what this historic indigenous gathering is all about.

At a time when we know that fake news stories are rampant, I encourage everyone to verify the authenticity of the news they read. Many news reports give the impression that the Standing Rock Sioux tribe's struggle is chaotic and tumultuous. But that's not the case. This movement of solidarity is filled with people who, when asked about what they need, say they need us to pray for them. Pray and do what's right, the elders tell us, noting that they are hopeful about what's to come.

Even with an unfriendly incoming presidential administration, I believe that if we all stand strong with the Standing Rock Sioux, make our voices heard and reach out to our elected officials in Congress, we can protect the river and the land that so many hold sacred.

[Irene]

ATTENTION 4Windy,

Complaints grow over whites turning Dakota Access protest into hippie festival

[petrus4]

ATTENTION 4Windy,

Complaints grow over whites turning Dakota Access protest into hippie festival

This makes sense, Irene.  It's interesting that they compare this with Burning Man; I read about how commercially oriented and corrupt that event became, in the end.