I Hear You Knockin' But You Can't Come In.

[Eighthman]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/astronauts-space-spooked-mysterious-knocking-9357985

What, no doorbell?  Or Welcome Mat?  First Contact doesn't seem very inviting.

[Irene]

This doesn't surprise me. It's consistent with a personal experience of mine.

As I've confessed recently, I'm an ongoing CE5.

[petrus4]

This doesn't surprise me. It's consistent with a personal experience of mine.

As I've confessed recently, I'm an ongoing CE5.

Ongoing, Irene?  You mean they are still taking you?

[Irene]

Ongoing, Irene?  You mean they are still taking you?

No, talking to me and my sister.

She visited the San Luis Valley this past summer after hearing it is a hotspot. She will not tell me what happened. She is terrified.

ETA, these things, I think they're interdimensional, are nasty. Every now and then they will say something nice as bait and then feed on you when you recognize the lie.

[The Seeker]

This seems appropriate

[petrus4]

No, talking to me and my sister.

She visited the San Luis Valley this past summer after hearing it is a hotspot. She will not tell me what happened. She is terrified.

ETA, these things, I think they're interdimensional, are nasty. Every now and then they will say something nice as bait and then feed on you when you recognize the lie.

If I can offer a suggestion to your sister.  I know this will sound superficial and pathetic, but for me it really did help, in conjunction with prayer to Kali and other things.  However, as just a single measure...

Have her visualise herself being surrounded by dark blue energy; the colour of the night sky.  That might sound sinister, but I'm not saying black here; I'm saying dark Indigo.



This is a colour which corresponds with the concept of sovereignty; and what this energy will indicate to those beings, is that she is aware of the fact that she has the right to decline any interaction with them whatsoever, if she so chooses.  Once she truly realises and acknowledges that she has the right to refuse them, then they will not be able to touch her.

As another meditation exercise, which I've started trying to do myself over the last 24 hours, because I was getting attacked again; have her close her eyes and focus, as intensely as possible, on the type of nurturing emotion which she feels when she is giving someone a hug, or receiving one from someone else.  STS or negatively polarised beings can not stand that kind of energy, and if you really pump yourself full of it on a daily basis, they will not want to come anywhere near you.  They primarily enjoy fear and negative emotion; love terrifies them, because it encourages integration, and they thrive on the idea of keeping everything seperate.

[Irene]

Petrus,

She is a Buddhist and is dealing with it in her own way, but thanks for the recommendations.

Both of us were stunned when we read Kelleher's Hunt for the Skinwalker. Personally, I've highlighted things in it on my Kindle app. What has happened/is happening there is consistent with our experiences.

These things do knock, but they also whistle and blast a klaxon in your head, which is extremely unnerving. They think it's funny and they feed off the adrenaline produced.

[petrus4]

Petrus,

She is a Buddhist and is dealing with it in her own way, but thanks for the recommendations.

I found out not long ago that Buddhism has its' own ways of dealing with antisocial acorporeals that show up in the middle of the night.  Reminds me of a Chaos banishing I read about a few years back, which essentially consisted of screaming in a belligerent East End accent, "F&@# OFF YOU BASTARDS!"  The author claimed that it could be highly effective, but only to the extent that you refused to take the entities in question seriously.

I would actually feel some gratitude towards the offending extraterrestrials, believe it or not.  As a magician, one of the first things you need to learn, is how to read out the riot act to the sorts of beings which would leave more conventionally minded people, gibbering and weeping in a foetal position on the floor.



Hence, these entities are providing you the opportunity for valuable practice.  Consider it the first step towards earning your Interdimensional Garbologist merit badge.

These things do knock, but they also whistle and blast a klaxon in your head, which is extremely unnerving. They think it's funny and they feed off the adrenaline produced.

Yep.  They also get off on the idea that they can supposedly show up and do it to you whenever they please.  Some aliens are beautiful beings of light, and some of them are adolescent punks.

[Irene]

Petrus,

You have inspired me to start a thread.

Thank you. 

[Eighthman]

Interesting........there have been Born Again Christians who swear that 'demons' disappear upon loudly invoking Jesus' name and Jehovah's Witnesses who have the same experience doing the same with Jehovah.

So, what's the mechanism here?  What has puzzled me about ghost hunters experiences is the idea that organized personal emotions survive death.  Perhaps it's the strong rejection projected.

What a strange universe.  They can't give us free energy or a unified field theory but are all about feelings?

[Sinny]

No, talking to me and my sister.

She visited the San Luis Valley this past summer after hearing it is a hotspot. She will not tell me what happened. She is terrified.

ETA, these things, I think they're interdimensional, are nasty. Every now and then they will say something nice as bait and then feed on you when you recognize the lie.

You'll enjoy Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts, Joe Fisher

A case study, available on YouTube.

[petrus4]

Interesting........there have been Born Again Christians who swear that 'demons' disappear upon loudly invoking Jesus' name and Jehovah's Witnesses who have the same experience doing the same with Jehovah.

They can.  Jesus and the other spirits associated with Christianity (Michael, Mary etc) genuinely are extremely powerful.  My point of difference with Christians is that I don't necessarily believe that Christianity is the only way of doing things; but it is one way, and it can be very effective.

So, what's the mechanism here?  What has puzzled me about ghost hunters experiences is the idea that organized personal emotions survive death.  Perhaps it's the strong rejection projected.

The mechanism is that you essentially have some nasty bugs from other dimensions who enjoy the taste of fear and other negative emotions, and that as a result, you occasionally need to reverently ask your favourite Godform if, to paraphrase Samuel L. Jackson, they would be willing to put foot to ass.  I got into an argument with one of them a few years back.  I was able to chase it off, but only really because they tend to be cowards and prefer an easy meal.  If you either project really positive emotions or engage them in astral combat, it's a lot easier for them to go and pick on someone else who doesn't even know that they exist, let alone knows how to kick them in the face, which I do...at least to an extent.

With that said, however, this isn't the sort of thing that I get involved with willingly, these days.  The bugs have hierarchies, and if you beat up enough of the smaller ones, sooner or later one of the bigger ones are going to come looking for you, and that can get extremely complicated.  If one of them crosses my path, then either I will deal with it or ask Lord Yinepu if he would, which he generally does in exchange for some chocolate; but I don't go looking for fights with them if I can help it.  There's a difference between knowing how to fight to a small degree, and thinking you can take on anything out there.  There's always a bigger fish.  LSD is particularly good for teaching you your place in the universe.

I am not someone who Don Juan would even consider a novice.  I am someone who has had to learn a few things because of the degree to which I was getting picked on as a teenager, but I have fairly deliberately avoided learning more than the bare minimum required, because I have taken enough psychedelics over the last few years that I have gained some idea of just how small I really am, in the grand scheme of things.  So I don't have delusions about being some sort of rock star who is going to be able to handle anything.  I nearly went mad during my second LSD trip; I was very lucky to get out of it.  I know how to pre-emptively banish, I know how to ask for help if I need it, and I know how to pull out an astral sword, and that is literally it.  I don't go anywhere near ceremonial though because that is only asking for unspeakable trouble, and I don't even play with sigils any more because I don't want to draw attention to myself either.

Exorcism just isn't nice.  In the best case scenario, the spirits in question go away, and that's it; but even if they do, in a lot of cases it still means you end up having an experience that pretty much any sane person is going to want to avoid.

[Sinny]

I'm glad to see you posting again Petrus

[zorgon]

Interesting........there have been Born Again Christians who swear that 'demons' disappear upon loudly invoking Jesus' name and Jehovah's Witnesses who have the same experience doing the same with Jehovah.

"demons"  or 'elementals'  from the ASTRAL WORLD...   They must obey certain laws as it were...   a simple command BEGONE and they will leave...  This I have known all my life... this is taught by Ancient masters... this is taught by remote viewing instructors... If invoking the name Jesus works for you than so be it  Conan invoked Krom   Doesn't matter  the thing that matters is the COMMAND and that you believe it will work without a doubt

These 'entities' CANNOT bother you if you do not let them.  But you must be firm in your bannishment

Ouija boards  are BAD  because using one you INVITE these elementals to come and mess with you... and once the invite has been accepted, they are very hard to get rid of.

Call them IMPS if you want, they are palyful in a nasty sort of way...  People that dabble in Occult things without first learning the safeguards will be plaqued by the Imps... Remote Viewers and Astral travellers that do so without learning the safeguards will run into them...    Ghost Hunters, Alien Hunters....  all the same thing  be CAREFUL what you wish for... because you may be stuck with it...

So, what's the mechanism here?  What has puzzled me about ghost hunters experiences is the idea that organized personal emotions survive death.  Perhaps it's the strong rejection projected.

Your Astral Body survives death... but the Astral Plane contains other entities other than Humans... 

When a person is living in the astral, that is, when a person has 'died' to Earth, then that particular entity enters into the full life of the astral world and is not just a visitor as are those who return to the astral world, during that time when their body is asleep on the Earth, and, being full-time members of the astral world, they behave as ordinary people would on the Earth. That is, at the end of an astral day they sleep. The astral body which, of course, is quite solid to people in the astral world, goes to sleep, and, again, the psyche leaves the astral body at the end of its Silver Cord and goes into a yet higher plane. There it learns things which will be of use on what we might term the lower astral when the spirit returns to the astral body. Do not think that the astral world is the highest world, do not think that it is Heaven; it is not.

It may surprize you to know that animals also go there  and it will shock you to hear that yhumans are NOT the highest life form

Humans are not alone in the astral world, animals go there too. Never, never make the most tragic mistake of thinking that humans are the highest form of existence; they are not. Humans are just another form of existence. Humans think in one way, animals think in another way, but there are entities who, compared to humans, are as much above the humans as the humans are above the earthworms, and even these People know that they are not the ultimate form of evolution. So forget all about being a superior creature and concentrate on doing the best job you can.

Animals go to the astral plane, animals go higher as they merit it just as humans do. One of the big difficulties with the Christian religion is that they think humanity is the highest form of evolution possible, they think that all creatures were made for the satisfaction of Man, and that has led to some terrible conditions. The animal world and the animal Manus have been incredibly tolerant, knowing that humans have been misinstructed by their religious leaders, by their priests - who really rearranged Christianity to give themselves adequate power.

Accept it as fact, then, that in the astral worlds you will not find cowering (sammenkrypende) dogs or scared cats. You will instead find a partner who is in every way the equal of a human and who can communicate with a human with utter ease by telepathy.

What a strange universe.  They can't give us free energy or a unified field theory but are all about feelings?

Earth is the School of Hard knocks   It is the Cradle

Earth is the cradle of humanity, but one cannot live in a cradle forever. ~ Konstantin Eduardovich Tsiolkovsky

There are more and more people coming to the Earth, more and more people being born to the Earth, and many inquirers wonder why that should be so. The answer is Earth is just one speck of dust amid billions of specks of dust, and when people ask me why the population of the Earth is increasing I tell them the truth, which is that people are coming to Earth from other more nebulous planes of existence. Perhaps a person comes from a two dimensional world and comes to Earth as his first experience in a three dimensional world, so he starts his round of existence to the three dimensional world which we call Earth. And all the time there are more and more people coming as Earth becomes more and more of a qualified school of hardship. That is the purpose of Earth, you know, to teach one hardship and how to endure it and how to overcome it. People do not come to Earth to have a very enjoyable time, they come to learn so that all the information they learn can be passed on to the Overself.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

My mom would not allow us to use or have a Ouija board in the house..
She said it was like opening the door for bad things to come in....

btw...i won't allow one in my house...nor tarot cards.....