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Started by Eighthman, December 30, 2016, 12:32:25 AM

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Eighthman

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bw8pBi62eGf-ZUEydkpaVjZ0WWs/view

I can't vouch for every detail but one is left with a sense that 'where there's smoke, there's fire'.  There is enough here that is extremely peculiar and disturbing. 

ArMaP

Quote from: Eighthman on December 30, 2016, 12:32:25 AM
There is enough here that is extremely peculiar and disturbing.
The problem is how much of that is true and how much is the result of the imagination of several people.

I read some of the first pages and found only a repeating of the same theories we can find everywhere and not one real evidence.

Eighthman

First, there a number of surprising cases of officials in various nations in recent years involving pedophilia.

Secondly, the photos and art work associated with those accused are very disturbing to me.

Third, I have challenged anyone thinking otherwise to explain the strange comments in the emails that involve reputed code words.  I read a huge amount of stuff on aggregation sites and witness plenty of dismissals but no thorough explanations as to what is being discussed.  I did read a plausible explanation for the Breibart remark against Podesta as not involving Pizzagate - but more is needed.

Sinny

I've been all over pizza gate. Will post Jason Horsely's take (which is most excellent) tomorrow maybe, if nobody else does. Check it out.

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"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

ArMaP

Quote from: Eighthman on December 30, 2016, 02:01:11 AM
First, there a number of surprising cases of officials in various nations in recent years involving pedophilia.
That's true, and it's not surprising, as criminals always look for opportunity to commit their crimes easily, so paedophiles usually seek positions in which they can have some power over other people and be easily in contact with children.

QuoteSecondly, the photos and art work associated with those accused are very disturbing to me.
Some art is made just for that, without any other intention. I don't remember seeing any art work in connection with this case, I only read about it.

QuoteThird, I have challenged anyone thinking otherwise to explain the strange comments in the emails that involve reputed code words.
The problem starts with that word, "reputed", as anyone can say that some word is a code word. Also, most of the references I have seen are isolated, some do not even quote the whole email, so things look out of place.

Also, when we talk to people we know, we use many short-cuts that the other people understand, so while pizza may have a second meaning besides the obvious, it may be a completely different thing and not associated with something like paedophilia.

PS: if I was doing something illegal I wouldn't be talking about it through a GMail account, code words or no code words.

Sinny

But that's precisely what they do, hiding in plain sight.

Look at Jimmy Savile..  Jingle Jangle.

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society"- JFK

Eighthman

Important people screw up, forget, lie, cover up and leave evidence lying around. It happens because they get arrogant, stupid, senile, drugged-up, drunk or uncaring.

It amazes me that no one notices that Trump has real trouble reading or writing.  Or that Hillary ruined an entire nation and it didn't come up as a particular campaign issue (Libya). Or that Nixon forgot that White House conversations were recorded. Or that Condy Rice slipped up and nearly called Bush her husband (Smithsonian). Or that LBJ whipped out his 'johnson' to make a point to foreign press. Or that 9/11 terrorists focused on a Manhattan building instead of sending all planes to the Pentagon or White House as common sense would dictate. Or that Reagan showed clear symptoms of Alzheimers while in office and the media hid it (Andrea Mitchell, MSNBC)

Sh*t happens. 

zorgon

Quote from: ArMaP on December 30, 2016, 06:57:41 PMI don't remember seeing any art work in connection with this case, I only read about it.

Well there is this set 



And there is this from one of the other artists

Artist Targeted by #Pizzagate Conspiracy Theory Speakshttp://hyperallergic.com/347458/artist-targeted-by-pizzagate-conspiracy-theory-speaks/

Eighthman

Thank you.  I didn't want to post that art on your site.

I believe there was some quickly buried evidence about nude photos of underage females on Podesta's walls.


ArMaP

Thanks for posting some of the art from that artist, zorgon.

To me those paintings look more like the result of the artist being a victim herself, and when I looked for more information about her I found that she has multiple personality disorder, and one of her personalities makes those paintings, while other personalities create different paintings.

The problem with art is that it's an interpretative thing, so each person has their own interpretation of the meaning of the art piece they are watching/listening/feeling, and it may be completely different from the artist's intent.

robomont

im so greatful i dont have images on.im with armap and just want the facts.once everything political gets settled in a few months,then hopefully a new justice department head can dive into this,otherwise if it continues,i could see this getting to the point folks become numb to the headlines.which would really be a sad situation.if its real.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

Eighthman

It's been pointed out that the scandal involving 'pedophile island' and Bill Clinton is based on solid evidence - and no one seems interested in pursuing it.

In addition,  after 15 years of the longest war in US history, the US media, government and military are guilty of ignoring or covering up the common culture of sexual slavery of young boys in Afghanistan. On rare occasions, such as on Yahoo news or the Week magazine, it gets brought up - or also in regard to threats of court martial made against US soldiers, if they interfere or intervene in such cases.  British soldiers were also disgusted by this.

And then we have widespread human trafficking in Muslim nations involving children that the US doesn't want to make much of an issue of. 

The Seeker

Quote from: Eighthman on December 31, 2016, 07:56:26 PM
It's been pointed out that the scandal involving 'pedophile island' and Bill Clinton is based on solid evidence - and no one seems interested in pursuing it.

In addition,  after 15 years of the longest war in US history, the US media, government and military are guilty of ignoring or covering up the common culture of sexual slavery of young boys in Afghanistan. On rare occasions, such as on Yahoo news or the Week magazine, it gets brought up - or also in regard to threats of court martial made against US soldiers, if they interfere or intervene in such cases.  British soldiers were also disgusted by this.

And then we have widespread human trafficking in Muslim nations involving children that the US doesn't want to make much of an issue of.
Considering the last eight years we have endured, I hope we will see some positive moves made; the people still have some power if they get vocal with their representatives and stir up enough public outcry...

But my views are too harsh for most, for I would take every pedophile out and feed them to the alligators and piranhas...

Seeker
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robomont

wood chipper first,that way the wildlife equally share in the bounty.
ive never been much for rules.
being me has its priviledges.

Dumbledore

zorgon

BEST WAY EVER  to run a cover up...

Just say any news reported on the pedophile problem is FAKE news and everyone goes away

Like THIS report?

Massive pedophile ring busted; 230 kids saved - US news - Crime ...

QuoteAn Internet pedophile ring with up to 70,000 members — thought to be the world's largest —has been uncovered by police, a security official said Wednesday.
The European police agency Europol said in a statement that "Operation Rescue" had identified 670 suspects and that 230 abused children in 30 countries had been taken to safety. More children are expected to be found, Europol said.

It said that so far 184 people had been arrested and investigations in some countries were continuing. Most of those detained are suspected of direct involvement in sexually abusing children.

They include teachers, police officers and scout leaders, AP reported. One Spaniard who worked at summer youth camps is suspected of abusing some 100 children over five years.

Back in 2006  Missing TRILLIONS and Dyne Corp (an Area 51 contractor) involved in sex slave trading