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WOMAN DISCOVERED IN A PERFECT MARBLE CASKET IN RUSSIA IS 800 MILLION YEARS OLD

(http://universalscience.co/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/700_06f2df4b7430b6353d4eacac5e39885b.jpg)

QuoteIN the summer of 1969, an incredible and little-known discovery was made in the tiny village of Rzhavchik Tisulskago in the Kemerovo region of Russia. During stripping work at the local coal mine, a miner named Karnaukhov came across an intricately crafted marble coffin approximately 70 meters below the surface of the Earth. What was inside it has the potential to change human understanding of the history of this planet.

COULD THE DISCOVERY OF AN 800 MILLION-YEAR-OLD WOMAN REFUTE THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION?

The coffin was brought to the surface where the coal miners crowded around and attempted to open it by rapping on the edges. The coffin was beginning to melt into the sun and eventually began to flow, putty-like, onto the ground and revealed what was inside. Initially, the miners spotted that the coffin was brimming with an unidentified pink and blue liquid. Embalmed within the liquid was an incredibly beautiful woman of approximately thirty years old with large, blue eyes that remained eerily open. She was dressed in a sheer white dress cut to around her knee. The men working at the mine noted that it appeared as though she wasn't dead and was perhaps only sleeping. At the head of the coffin, the miners recovered a black, rectangular metal box. News of the discovery quickly spread among the local village and then the authorities became involved. At approximately two in the afternoon, a helicopter landed at the site and declared that the area was in quarantine and that everybody who had witnessed what was inside the coffin would have to be temporarily isolated.

The coffin was too heavy to be carried in the helicopter, and so the officials decided to empty the liquid before transportation. As they began to pump away the fluid, the corpse began to blacken almost instantaneously. Bizarrely, when they replaced the liquid, the corpse retook the form of the beautiful woman. The coffin was then sealed, and a larger helicopter was called to take the coffin to another location. Five days after the discovery, a professor from Novosibirsk who had been tasked with investigating the body said that the find had the potential to turn human understanding upside down. The professor said that he was certain that the body was at least 800 million years old and that the woman's body was older than the coal that had formed around the coffin. He said that this meant that the Darwinian theory of evolution had to be called into question.

http://universalscience.co/2017/01/18/woman-discovered-perfect-marble-casket-russia-800-million-years-old/

Marble doesn't melt in the sun.

Quote from: ArMaP on April 15, 2017, 11:31:06 PM
Marble doesn't melt in the sun.

Well, if you bend your rules a little bit, you'll recall that some ancient sites have rock/stone megastructures and the blocks look like they've, possibly, been melted to fit each other like puzzle pieces.

Also, isn't there a pyramid or temple or something that has "melted" steps in it?

Maybe this is the same tech.

Of course, a picture would be nice.

To my female colleagues, I looked closely at this beautiful female.  Does it look to you that she might have make up on.

They could have had make up back then I know; but I thought I saw some mascara and lipstick; I don't know.

Just shows 800 million years is a lot lot older than what the people in this field thought life went back to.  She is beautiful though.

Quote from: Irene on April 16, 2017, 01:23:18 AM
Well, if you bend your rules a little bit, you'll recall that some ancient sites have rock/stone megastructures and the blocks look like they've, possibly, been melted to fit each other like puzzle pieces.

I read a book some years ago about a British explorer that was mapping some borders in South America that was told a story about a plant that was used by birds to make holes in rock cliffs, and I think it was the person that told him the story that also told about someone that had his spurs melted by the same plant.

QuoteMaybe this is the same tech.

Marble melting in the sun doesn't sound like the same tech as melting rock to make it easier to work with. In fact, it doesn't sound as any tech at all.

Quote from: biggles on April 16, 2017, 01:45:24 AM
To my female colleagues, I looked closely at this beautiful female.  Does it look to you that she might have make up on.

And trimmed eyebrows. :)

I suppose that image is for "illustration purposes" only and not supposed to be the real woman in the marble casket.

PS: it looked familiar to me, so a quick search showed me that the image comes from a TV series I watched some time ago, Once upon a time (https://www.theaterbyte.com/bluray-uhd-reviews/once-upon-a-time-the-complete-first-season-blu-ray-review.html).

That makes sense yes.

Just  wondering why it took 48 years for this story to surface, and why there aren't any reference links in the Science article  8)

Any more leads or trails to follow on this, z?

Seeker

Quote from: the seeker on April 16, 2017, 03:04:07 AM
Just  wondering why it took 48 years for this story to surface, and why there aren't any reference links in the Science article  8)

Any more leads or trails to follow on this, z?

Seeker

That is a good question Seeker, seen it about a month ago on yt; am afraid I got no answers but it is a darn good question, makes you think.

http://www.disclose.tv/news/woman_discovered_in_a_perfect_marble_casket_in_russia_is_800_million_years_old/137275

Here's somethin.  ;)

You have probably seen all the leads on this anyway honey. xo

This reminds me of Chinese Alchemy.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=5ame4Rl1RXMC&pg=PA38&lpg=PA38&dq=chinese+woman++alchemist+perfectly+preserved&source=bl&ots=-mUOMRgK6u&sig=sLnSWyBW-RpuxVBkarPNob2QMg8&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjqlZzs96fTAhWBvxQKHfaKBVwQ6AEISDAM#v=onepage&q=chinese%20woman%20%20alchemist%20perfectly%20preserved&f=false

Now that's a good answer, could very well be.

this video is at the link but it is in russian...


https://www.youtube.com/embed/MqEJj7RxXT4

 i go to g books link and read to like 3rd page down and it mentions islands of the immortals.then antarctica pops in my head.then just now im thinking about the goldfish story in my antarctica thread which gold fish have been a oriental hobby for years.so i wonder if this all ties together somehow.how old can goldfish get?
maybe goldfish diet can aid in immortality or hints to a link to immortality.just some thoughts off the top of my head.

Quote from: the seeker on April 16, 2017, 04:43:04 AM
this video is at the link but it is in russian...


https://www.youtube.com/embed/MqEJj7RxXT4

As we say "down here" all the time.......................buggar.   ;)

Quote from: robomont on April 16, 2017, 04:55:28 AM
i go to g books link and read to like 3rd page down and it mentions islands of the immortals.then antarctica pops in my head.then just now im thinking about the goldfish story in my antarctica thread which gold fish have been a oriental hobby for years.so i wonder if this all ties together somehow.how old can goldfish get?
maybe goldfish diet can aid in immortality or hints to a link to immortality.just some thoughts off the top of my head.

I think there are immortals here; if only they all looked like Christopher Lambert. ;)

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/10-animals-that-live-the-longest

heres some interesting info,coi fish and then heres a squid story too.maybe the immortals arent people but squids in antarctica.maybe eating these objects shares immortality enzymes or the enzymes in them trigger our dna into immortality.the squid story actually talks of it turning back into a polyp.
if immortality is ever hacked,odds are it will happen here on pegasus!

Yep I agree, very smart people here.

I didn't like ATS, I was scared of a lot of people there.   ;D

(http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t522/robomont/Image-20170416_000249_zpsh9vxh9pz.jpg) (http://s1312.photobucket.com/user/robomont/media/Image-20170416_000249_zpsh9vxh9pz.jpg.html)

Yep, that's true, you are. xxxooo ;)

The oldest reference I could find was this page (http://survincity.com/2010/10/tisulsky-find-girl-in-a-casket/), apparently from 2013, with the same story.

In the Russian video there's something I couldn't find on any written page, references to Spetsnaz and KGB.

If we search for "Tisulsky Princess" we can find many sites, all with the same story and mostly from this or last year.

Edited to add that this page (http://sol-war.ru/archaeology.html#000673) appears to have more information.

Interesting.  Thanks. xo

Quote from: ArMaP on April 16, 2017, 01:49:17 AM
I read a book some years ago about a British explorer that was mapping some borders in South America that was told a story about a plant that was used by birds to make holes in rock cliffs, and I think it was the person that told him the story that also told about someone that had his spurs melted by the same plant.

Marble melting in the sun doesn't sound like the same tech as melting rock to make it easier to work with. In fact, it doesn't sound as any tech at all.

How do you know it wouldn't work on marble? Have you tried it?

Maybe it's marble-like. Maybe things were different then.

No picture, so we're all SOL.

Quote from: Irene on April 16, 2017, 03:48:42 PM
How do you know it wouldn't work on marble? Have you tried it?

What, sunlight? That's what I said wouldn't work.

Quote from: ArMaP on April 16, 2017, 05:51:08 PM
What, sunlight? That's what I said wouldn't work.

Yes, right. There are many things we don't know though, so I will keep an open mind on it.

Quote from: Irene on April 16, 2017, 06:10:26 PM
Yes, right. There are many things we don't know though, so I will keep an open mind on it.

Sorry, I don't understand it. Does that mean that sunlight can melt marble? ???

Quote from: ArMaP on April 16, 2017, 06:37:32 PM
Sorry, I don't understand it. Does that mean that sunlight can melt marble? ???

ArMaP, at the risk of sounding narcissistic, I think maybe you were put on this planet to annoy me.

I don't know if sunlight can melt marble. We've seen and read about a lot of crazy things over the years, yes? And we admit we don't know everything? We think there might have been advanced civilizations here in the past?

Sunlight melting marble? Who knows?

Quote from: Irene on April 16, 2017, 06:41:40 PM
ArMaP, at the risk of sounding narcissistic, I think maybe you were put on this planet to annoy me.

It does sound narcissistic, and no, you aren't special, I do this with all people, when I don't understand something I ask about it. :)

QuoteI don't know if sunlight can melt marble.

If normal sunlight can melt marble how can marble statues and buildings exist? Marble is widely used in construction, and having been born above a stone (mostly marble) cutting shop, I know that marble doesn't melt in the sunlight.

I think that sentence about marble melting in the sunlight is the result of a bad translation.

QuoteWe've seen and read about a lot of crazy things over the years, yes?

Yes.

QuoteAnd we admit we don't know everything?

Yes.

QuoteWe think there might have been advanced civilizations here in the past?

I think it's possible, but I doubt it.

QuoteSunlight melting marble? Who knows?

If it melt under sunlight then it wasn't marble, it's as simple as that, marble is a metamorphic rock, itself the result of the melting and compression of other materials.

Quote from: ArMaP on April 16, 2017, 01:54:12 AM
I suppose that image is for "illustration purposes" only and not supposed to be the real woman in the marble casket.

Yes that is Snaow White and that casket is glass not marble :P

QuotePS: it looked familiar to me, so a quick search showed me that the image comes from a TV series I watched some time ago, Once upon a time (https://www.theaterbyte.com/bluray-uhd-reviews/once-upon-a-time-the-complete-first-season-blu-ray-review.html).

WOW I am impressed!!! ArMaP watches Faerie Tales :D

Quote from: ArMaP on April 16, 2017, 06:53:09 PM
It does sound narcissistic, and no, you aren't special, I do this with all people, when I don't understand something I ask about it. :)
If normal sunlight can melt marble how can marble statues and buildings exist? Marble is widely used in construction, and having been born above a stone (mostly marble) cutting shop, I know that marble doesn't melt in the sunlight.

I think that sentence about marble melting in the sunlight is the result of a bad translation.
Yes.
Yes.
I think it's possible, but I doubt it.
If it melt under sunlight then it wasn't marble, it's as simple as that, marble is a metamorphic rock, itself the result of the melting and compression of other materials.

Jōb, definitely, Jōb.  ::)

I believe I did say somewhere along the line that maybe it only looked like marble.

Quote from: biggles on April 16, 2017, 01:45:24 AM
To my female colleagues, I looked closely at this beautiful female.  Does it look to you that she might have make up on.

They could have had make up back then I know; but I thought I saw some mascara and lipstick; I don't know.

Makeup is very old :D The Egyptians used it and I am sure Atlanteans and Lemurians did as well :P But this is Snow White :D

However I have this one

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Tarim_Mummies/loubeaut2b.jpg)

That is from the border of China near Russia  They tried to hide these tall white mummies but even though the area was used for China's nuclear testing, the story came out.

The mummies were remarkably preserved but were not Chinese

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Tarim_Mummies/mummy10a.jpg)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/The_Mummies_of_Tarim_Basin.html

QuoteJust shows 800 million years is a lot lot older than what the people in this field thought life went back to.  She is beautiful though.

The earth is BILLIONS of years old, The dinosaurs were in control for over 400 million years Mankind according to our 'scientists' not even 1 million yet :P

Tibetans say we are the FIFTH civilization on Earth  Rosicrucians agree.

The Earth is dynamic and stuff gets buried. We DO find OOPARTS, items that do not fit local accepted beliefs but they get hidden in museum basements or that big warehouse you saw on Indiana Jones :P

Quote from: Pimander on April 16, 2017, 03:36:12 AM
This reminds me of Chinese Alchemy.

HEY there glad to see ya back :P

Now THIS is a new one :D

Quote from: Irene on April 16, 2017, 08:47:48 PM
I believe I did say somewhere along the line that maybe it only looked like marble.

You said it could be marble-like on a previous post, but that, to me, may mean two things, that it looked like marble or that it behaved like marble, but maybe that's a misunderstanding from my part. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on April 16, 2017, 06:37:32 PM
Sorry, I don't understand it. Does that mean that sunlight can melt marble? ???

Marble is a relatively SOFT stone, hence the ease at which it can be carved...

Melting point of marble : 1,339 °C (2,442 °F; 1,612 K) (calcite) 825 °C (1517 °F; 1,098 K) (aragonite)

Marble is Calcium Carbonate that has been compressed and heated, Marble is a metamorphic rock composed of recrystallized carbonate minerals

You can use a FRESNAL Lens and focus the sun and get a lot of heat :P A Fresnal lens is found in those old projection screen TVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_8cynWnAw8

So fucused sunlight can melt anything :P

I have a lens from an old solar oven  I put it on a staff and now have a STAFF OF RA 

Need to start a fire in a hurry? As longs the sun is shining... no problem :P

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/indianajones/images/2/29/Staff_of_Ra.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070623021844)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svAPyyUJUCo

Quote from: biggles on April 16, 2017, 04:58:48 AM
I think there are immortals here; if only they all looked like Christopher Lambert. ;)

Well I know of ONE Immortal :D  I have been working on him for years but keep getting side tracked :D

He is used a lot in Hollywood as well  but he is the subject for another thread :D

So often our myths and fairy tales are based on true stories passed down orally from history.

The idea of a "Snow White" or innocent who is preserved by an old witch who would be losing her potency could bring into question the reason for mummification of many cultures, perhaps the witch believed she could use the body for her own immortality, as in the fairy tale tangles where the witch stayed young through the use of the young maiden's golden hair?

Yet another angle of the story represents the need for true love or an honest heart, as in the role of the Kiss of a Prince or Love of a Sister or another Person as in Maleficent.

I am using the fairytale myths as a basis of truth from various cultures and knowledge now lost to us

Could there have been intent to resurrect these bodies at a particular time to allow for the bloodlines of those who felt that by maintaining a body there was potential to come back to life on earth but yet only when the time has come to pass and with conditions of morality that would have to be met in order for the Life to be Reanimated?

As far as the Marble melting in the Sun.............Fire and Ice could surprise us when mixed in potency for a predetermined plan.

There seems to be so little to be found on this matter we could see it as either false or something so vast in it's implications that the lid on it would have been swift. 

There could be immortals that have been waiting for millennia to embody a human form,  it may have been planned to resurrect the mummified remains rather than attempt to use a living body.

In these times not much would surprise me.    There could be more stories as ice melts and hidden things are revealed that will blow the socks off of our mental constructs of reality!

Quote from: darklylucid on April 16, 2017, 10:34:29 PM
So often our myths and fairy tales are based on true stories passed down orally from history.

That has been exactly the focus of all my research so far...  even the Bible is a collection of facts and stories from earlier time but when you say that you get pounced on by the Believers :D

The Christian churches used to put out food for the Fae Folk :D Today the UFO mythology is merely a new label on the Olde Demon/Angel mythology 

The Portals to other dimensions were known in Ancient Times and are though to be the Key to the modern UFO mysteries... even NASA now admits the portals are real and sent a mission to seek them out

The old mystic schools sought this knowledge but had to do so in SECRECY because at that time if you had strange ideas about reality you were literally KILLED  Even today in many countries such though can get you killed like getting executed for being an Atheist in the Middle East

QuoteThe idea of a "Snow White" or innocent who is preserved by an old witch who would be losing her potency could bring into question the reason for mummification of many cultures, perhaps the witch believed she could use the body for her own immortality, as in the fairy tale tangles where the witch stayed young through the use of the young maiden's golden hair?

Many stories like that Samson lost his strength when his hair was cut  In China they still believe eating Tiger parts will give you the strength of a Tiger and eatingRhino Horn will make your 'horn' stand up longer :P  (I guess Viagra hasn't reached them yet :P )

QuoteYet another angle of the story represents the need for true love or an honest heart, as in the role of the Kiss of a Prince or Love of a Sister or another Person as in Maleficent.

I am using the fairytale myths as a basis of truth from various cultures and knowledge now lost to us

Faerie Tales deal with MAGIC  We have LOST Magic (well not 'lost'  it has just been hidden from us for so long we forgot)  MAGIC is simply another tool using knowledge we don't have handy  Most of our modern technology today would have been considered Magic in Medieval times

Norval has three questions from the Bible that seem impossible to answer  yet all three can be done with modern technology

Sir Arthur C Clarke had three laws #3 says: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

I find more truth in Faerie Tales then I do in modern news stations :P

QuoteCould there have been intent to resurrect these bodies at a particular time to allow for the bloodlines of those who felt that by maintaining a body there was potential to come back to life on earth but yet only when the time has come to pass and with conditions of morality that would have to be met in order for the Life to be Reanimated?

Most certainly. That was certainly the thought of the day. But true reincarnation does not require that the old Meat Suit remains intact... as just the energy (spirit, soul) that is you continues.

But consider this... Psychics can use a piece of hair or artifact that was close to you to 'read' things about you similar to the way a bloodhound can sniff you out from a small sample. And DNA can get you from a mere trace :D

QuoteAs far as the Marble melting in the Sun.............Fire and Ice could surprise us when mixed in potency for a predetermined plan.

Well I was a chemistry guru back in the day  (aced high school chemistry 100%) and am a geologist and lapidary (not by degree but by hands on in the field :D)

Look at WATER seeing as you mention Fire and Ice :D   We have discovered that water BURNS with tremendous power  and the ash?  is WATER

Any kid can take a car battery and a bucket of water and two glass jars and in minutes SPLIT water into hydrogen and oxygen....  then a small electric spark and KABOOM you have a tremendous explosion as the hydrogen burns with oxygen and produces WATER


people thing that when you BURN something it is destroyed  this is NOT TRUE

It OXIDIZDES  in other words it combines with oxygen and the joining releases extra energy in the form of HEAT  which we see as flame

Take a piece of steel wool  Light it with a match in a jar of oxygen and it burns brightly leacing a brown rusty powder  This powder is IRON OXIDE  or RUST  Fe2O or FeO

When water rusts a piece of iron it is actually BURNING  but it is so slow you do not see the flames

WATER is actually Hydrogen RUST  H2O (DiHydrogen oxide)  Next time you offer your friends a glass of water tell them "Would you like a glass of fresh DiHydrogen oxide?

::)

So we now look at this:

Here you see WATER burning and making huge clouds of STEAM (Water Vapour) as the exhaust  and it has the power to send this huge metal thing into space. The fuel is liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen... the exhaust is WATER

(http://t1.daumcdn.net/brunch/service/user/2acx/image/MrJMDulZESNMXFB2zxyWdVbBlgs.jpg)

QuoteThere seems to be so little to be found on this matter we could see it as either false or something so vast in it's implications that the lid on it would have been swift. 

Knowledge gets edited by people with agendas   Knowledge gets destroyed by zealots with agendas (burning of the library of Alexandria)  Knowledge gets beaten out of you by Religious zealots who consider THEIR way as the ONLY way and all else is evil and must be destroyed knowledge is corrupted by main stream media to push a propaganda agenda

In all that how do you find the island of truth?

You need to use other tools  :D  and the Old Mystic Schools teach you those tools 

I need to send ArMaP to one to broaden his mind a tad :P 

::)

QuoteThere could be immortals that have been waiting for millennia to embody a human form,  it may have been planned to resurrect the mummified remains rather than attempt to use a living body.

Quite possibly  and they might be known as DJinn ;)

Their bad things them Djins.  Not good at all.

Quote from: zorgon on April 16, 2017, 10:08:42 PM
So fucused sunlight can melt anything :P

I know that, there was a Portuguese priest that made a solar-powered furnace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyreliophorus) that could melt almost any thing, including rocks.

The text says nothing about a mirror or a lens.

Quote from: ArMaP on April 17, 2017, 12:00:36 AM
I know that, there was a Portuguese priest that made a solar-powered furnace (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyreliophorus) that could melt almost any thing, including rocks.

The text says nothing about a mirror or a lens.

Interesting, he could have been one of those, oh darn, I can't remember the name sorry; like a magi, but that's not the word.  Alchemist type priest. Smile.

Quote from: zorgon on April 16, 2017, 11:46:08 PM
Here you see WATER burning and making huge clouds of STEAM (Water Vapour) as the exhaust  and it has the power to send this huge metal thing into space. The fuel is liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen... the exhaust is WATER

The white clouds came from the solid rocket boosters, not from the hydrogen combustion. :)

QuoteI need to send ArMaP to one to broaden his mind a tad :P 

;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQdKQQwaNvY





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drE54ctrHBY





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtzRAjW6KO0

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Quote from: ArMaP on April 16, 2017, 09:44:14 PM
You said it could be marble-like on a previous post, but that, to me, may mean two things, that it looked like marble or that it behaved like marble, but maybe that's a misunderstanding from my part. :)

Sometimes, ArMaP, when I read your posts, I think, "Chinese fire drill."

::)

Quote from: Irene on April 17, 2017, 12:49:26 AM
Sometimes, ArMaP, when I read your posts, I think, "Chinese fire drill."

::)

That's no surprise, sometimes, when I read old posts I made I have trouble understanding them. I suppose English classes would help. :)

PS: I had to search for "Chinese fire drill" to know what you meant.

Quote from: ArMaP on April 17, 2017, 12:57:49 AM
That's no surprise, sometimes, when I read old posts I made I have trouble understanding them. I suppose English classes would help. :)

PS: I had to search for "Chinese fire drill" to know what you meant.

Yes, Armap, english classes would more than likely help you, since you think in Portugese  8)

One of the older Russian articles you posted about this event state that it was a type of putty, not marble, that was melting in the sun, so I am of the mind that "marble" was a mis-translation; we need to find someone like Sarkoy that can help with a direct translation

And Zorgon, we do keep getting diverted away from Thoth the Atlantean and the Comte de Saint Germain  8)

Seeker

I heard about Zorg's immortal years and years ago.

Maybe one day he will get around to it; I love the idea of it.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/a8/a4/ca/a8a4cab92930ead8eeabfb19b664cf41.jpg)

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/04/7d/25/047d25bb08be70654dd56163b640e429.jpg)

Lenses and magnified sun rays melt metal and stone -

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=9328.msg134854#msg134854 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=9328.msg134854#msg134854)

At 10:43 is the traces of melting stone liquid -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfv3vRrfp2E

i remember a chem that came from a plant in south america that dissolved stone.
so if we take the theory these folks had access to world products then it could be feasible ,i suspect.
but im leaning towards hype and mistranslation of vodka fueled excitement.
not that its not real but that in a state of excitement,folks dont think about details,just as they dont think of details with ufos.
yes i believe armaps language is a barrier to his imagination but it also gives us a foundation to work off of.whether its solid or not,its a point of rebuttal to work from.
i wouldnt change a thing about armap.lol!
the sun thing is uv and breaks down any chemical by ionization.the only compound i know of off the top of my head thats not regularly destroyed by ionization is carbon nanotubes of xray nm width in diameter.
at least in atmospheric conditions.
mostly through oxidation i suspect.

what im most excited about from this story is the cinnibar.thats mercury.sure its other compounds but mercury is the flag waiving,imho.

http://cinnabarbow.com/

kinda off topic but 10 suns? maybe 10 ufos and bow was actually a projectile weapon that used mercury.just over time it got translated to a weapon bow.
mercury is continually fascinating through history.

Quote from: A51Watcher on April 17, 2017, 03:51:17 AM

At 10:43 is the traces of melting stone liquid -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfv3vRrfp2E

Why in Heaven's name are they melting that ancient artifact for.  To see inside; cant they leave things alone.

Quote from: biggles on April 17, 2017, 09:36:51 AM

Why in Heaven's name are they melting that ancient artifact for.  To see inside; cant they leave things alone.

In this case they appeared to have used it for polishing the exterior.

You can see where the drips end and the surface is just smooth but not polished like glass.

Quote from: biggles on April 17, 2017, 09:36:51 AM

Why in Heaven's name are they melting that ancient artifact for.  To see inside; cant they leave things alone.

Hey Bigs,

The melting was done by the people who made the sarcophagus, thousands of years ago.

Quote from: robomont on April 17, 2017, 04:21:35 AM
i remember a chem that came from a plant in south america that dissolved stone.
so if we take the theory these folks had access to world products then it could be feasible ,i suspect.

What could be feasible? Melting a marble sarcophagus just by moving it from underground to the surface and letting it exposed to the sun? That's what they say happened.

Quoteyes i believe armaps language is a barrier to his imagination but it also gives us a foundation to work off of.whether its solid or not,its a point of rebuttal to work from.

My language is not a barrier to my imagination, it's a barrier to understanding what other people think and what they write, and a barrier to my explanations of what I think. :)

ArMaP, I always understand you, so no excuses.  :P

Armap, I think everyone missed my earlier statement; marble was a missed translation; it was encased in a form of putty that melted in the sunlight.
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10240.msg135235#msg135235 (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10240.msg135235#msg135235)

Or have my posts become invisible? I don't remember turning on the cloaking device...

Seeker

Quote from: Irene on April 17, 2017, 09:55:59 PM
ArMaP, I always understand you, so no excuses.  :P

I thought you had some trouble understanding what I write, as many of your answers appear to be about things I didn't say. I suppose I was wrong.

Quote from: the seeker on April 17, 2017, 10:28:15 PM
Armap, I think everyone missed my earlier statement; marble was a missed translation; it was encased in a form of putty that melted in the sunlight.

I saw it, but as I had already said that the marble melting in the sun was probably a bad translation here (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=10240.msg135193#msg135193) and as I had read the article you are talking about I had nothing more to say, so I said nothing. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on April 17, 2017, 11:41:52 PM
I thought you had some trouble understanding what I write, as many of your answers appear to be about things I didn't say. I suppose I was wrong.

I understand you perfectly. I just don't agree with you most of the time.

You tend to evaluate subjects within a very rigid framework. I suppose you'd be considered more scientifically-oriented.

I operate on a different wavelength. My beliefs are more fluid.

Then why is every one still focusing on melting stone instead of whether or not this event actually happened and what, if it is a true event, became of the coffin and contents?

Seeker

Quote from: Irene on April 17, 2017, 11:46:11 PM
I understand you perfectly.

OK, that's good. :)

QuoteI just don't agree with you most of the time.

That I already knew. :)

QuoteYou tend to evaluate subjects within a very rigid framework. I suppose you'd be considered more scientifically-oriented.

Yes, that's how I think, I limit my opinions to what I know (or what I suppose I know), because I think that if I start creating opinions on every other possibility then I could find dozens of possibilities, and more unknowns only makes problem solving more difficult, not easier. Having fewer options also allows us to see if they are right or wrong, and if we find that they are wrong then we know that we should look elsewhere for the right answer.

QuoteI operate on a different wavelength. My beliefs are more fluid.

To me it's not a question of beliefs (except the fact that I base my opinions in what I believe I know or what I believe is more likely to be right), it's a question of me doing the thing I do best, solve problems, and it's easier starting with the known possibilities and then "upgrade" the problem to harder/unusual/creative/whatever possibilities.

Quote from: the seeker on April 17, 2017, 11:46:54 PM
Then why is every one still focusing on melting stone instead of whether or not this event actually happened and what, if it is a true event, became of the coffin and contents?

I don't know, it looks my "marble doesn't melt in the sun" shifted (unintentionally) the topic.

What I meant with that is that if we cannot trust what is written on part of the story, how can we trust the rest? That's why I went looking for other sources. But it looks like melting marble is more interesting. :)

I thought that they tried to get the woman out, and some fluid drained away and she very quickly started to degenerate.  So, they tried to start putting that fluid back.

And apparently the fluid covered her back up and she returned to what she originally was when they found her.

::)

Quote from: biggles on April 18, 2017, 01:38:58 AM
I thought that they tried to get the woman out, and some fluid drained away and she very quickly started to degenerate.  So, they tried to start putting that fluid back.

And apparently the fluid covered her back up and she returned to what she originally was when they found her.

::)

Yes, that is what is stated in the article; but there appears to be only the one source article and very little to aid in verification of whether this was a real event or a Sorchaa Faal type snipe hunt...

Seeker

Dumbass me, when I first saw the picture of her on yt I thought it was actually the woman.  ::)