Indeed I was!
We talked about the Abundance Paradigm, and money, and the NWO, and more:
http://www.redlistradio.com/2012/red-list-radio-podcast-74/
I'm on about 40 min. in.
Am,
This just happened?
Good on you girl!
Indeed. I got the tweet with the link minutes before I posted it here. I was on from about 9:40 PM Eastern (6:40 Pacific), yesterday eve, 05/24/12.
High Five!
Going off to listen to you now!
Congratulations Amaterasu! Good for you! Linda
Thank You, thank You. I was stoked when I was asked to be the "guest of honor!" And they posted My link, and tweeted My link, and well. I'm stoked.
woot! listening to it now. you just now started talking.
you have a nice talking voice and intelligent. the combination is great for radio!
stopped for a sec for bio break, and wanted to say before i start listening again, that when you first went on, you sounded a bit nervous but then you started talking about your info and you just opened up, sounded confident and knowledgeable on the subject. i may not agree that'll it'll work or agree with everything said, 100% but i think it's really a cool idea and has alot of potential..
Am,
I am about half way through your time,
you do have a great presence on air, and very easy
to listen to, your points are concise, and compellling.
I also enjoyed the experiences you have shared about
your father. Very well done!
Just finished listening...you were awesome!
Thank You both again. I thought it went well. This is actually My second media appearance. I was interviewed on camera for InnerSight, a program on public access geared towards the disabled and otherwise "handicapped." That was pretty fun.
I have a copy of it on disk, but nothing that will do anything to make it post. I can open it in VLC (that program zorg swears by) but cannot crank it into a format that After Effects or Sony Vegas Movie Studio (My two video editing applications) can work with. All I can get is short pieces out of VLC. I want to post it on YouTube... [sigh]
i finished listening to the entire show, even past where you were finished with your interview. would've been much better to hear more on your ideas as they were talking about communism, and seemed to think the reason it has never worked is because it was never given a fair shot and always bankrolled in the back drop for other reasons. i was even half way enjoying their conversation till they started talking about how they'd have to kick everyone out of the country that didn't agree with it.
lol
other countries in the world already think americans are fat lazy idiots. can you imagine...... yeah, that would work out real good. they sound like a couple of stalins in the making. scary people.
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 26, 2012, 05:58:42 AM
Thank You both again. I thought it went well. This is actually My second media appearance. I was interviewed on camera for InnerSight, a program on public access geared towards the disabled and otherwise "handicapped." That was pretty fun.
I have a copy of it on disk, but nothing that will do anything to make it post. I can open it in VLC (that program zorg swears by) but cannot crank it into a format that After Effects or Sony Vegas Movie Studio (My two video editing applications) can work with. All I can get is short pieces out of VLC. I want to post it on YouTube... [sigh]
The copy in your link is mp3.
1) If this is what you have on disk also then any music player you have on your pc should be able to play it.
If not you should download the podcast mp3 from that link.
2) In your video editing programs this file should be placed on your audio timeline not your video timeline.
Then place a picture in your video timeline and you will be good to go. 8)
you know ama, you should have your own show. invite people on that share similar ideas to your own, discuss alternative energies and so on. you can start one for free on blog talk radio: http://blogtalkradio.com
Quote from: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 06:39:36 AM
The copy in your link is mp3.
1) If this is what you have on disk also then any music player you have on your pc should be able to play it.
If not you should download the podcast mp3 from that link.
2) In your video editing programs this file should be placed on your audio timeline not your video timeline.
Then place a picture in your video timeline and you will be good to go. 8)
No, no. It is the vid from the InnerSight show I am having problems with. They gave Me a disk with an odd format, and VLC will play it - but it will not process the whole into a format After Effects or SVMS will handle except small pieces of the video and all of the audio - and I need the whole.
It was a half hour show. I did it in March.
Quote from: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 07:14:34 AM
you know ama, you should have your own show. invite people on that share similar ideas to your own, discuss alternative energies and so on. you can start one for free on blog talk radio: http://blogtalkradio.com
I'll check that out! Didn't know I had that option! Thanks!
Quote from: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 06:26:44 AM
i finished listening to the entire show, even past where you were finished with your interview. would've been much better to hear more on your ideas as they were talking about communism, and seemed to think the reason it has never worked is because it was never given a fair shot and always bankrolled in the back drop for other reasons. i was even half way enjoying their conversation till they started talking about how they'd have to kick everyone out of the country that didn't agree with it.
lol
other countries in the world already think americans are fat lazy idiots. can you imagine...... yeah, that would work out real good. they sound like a couple of stalins in the making. scary people.
I tweeted Them with clarifications. The Abundance Paradigm is "From Each according to BLISS; to Each according to DESIRE."
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 26, 2012, 07:48:03 AM
I'll check that out! Didn't know I had that option! Thanks!
yeah here's the one show i had on there. john lear was on the first show. i couldn't get z on there. he supported it but didn't want to be on the air. i also interviewed david sereda, peter goodgame (which was an awesome interview because he and i had been studying along similar lines), michael heiser, patrick heron, guy malone, the gilberts, neal adams, david lowe, and the hooded man (i linked you that one before)
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/ancientfuture
I'm not sure I am the best of interviewers. Better an interviewee. But maybe I will create a series of just Me... Or, I could try My hand at having guests... Will look into it tomorrow. WAY late here and I must sleep.
Yay! Amy is a star!!!!:D I knew you were all along!
You know, Amy, this wandering along the tough path youve been doing will pay off, and when the right footpath comes along, youll see it and head down it with confidence. It show it works for someone who deserves it.
The time that you have had in the bondage on a money system, is going to strengthen you for the next phase....Success!
Sharing your knowledge is a must, and to do so will enforce your beliefs and allow you to share with more people than ever before.
Media can be our friend when it is applied to the right demographic, and I truly believe it is your purpose here to furhter awareness of the things you have so eloquently tried to teach us.
I have an idea Ive been bouncing around for some time, and will share it with you on a PM when I have more typin' time, so look for that PM soon, and until then, congratulations! Things are looking up!
Cheers!
Littleenki
Well done, Amy.
I've just posted it on Alpha Tango ;D
You are the communicator, the mover & shaker. Cool.
;D ;D ;D :o 8)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread844581/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread844581/pg1)
@ LittleEnki: [smile] The path is becoming clearer. Things are moving. Hopefully the radiation neutralization tech will also be released (I know We have it...) along with free energy.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on May 26, 2012, 04:15:17 PM
Well done, Amy.
I've just posted it on Alpha Tango ;D
You are the communicator, the mover & shaker. Cool.
;D ;D ;D :o 8)
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread844581/pg1 (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread844581/pg1)
Interestingly, I became aware of the fact that You had posted at Alpha Tango Spookz before I got to reading this post. Protoplasmic Traveler, at His forum, sent Me a PM on His board (and so I got an email) and I went there first. He notes that some are wondering where I went. Feel free - if You think it won't cause problems for You there - to let Them know I am banned and where I am now.
I did not hear the whole show that night and when I discovered that They were talking communism, I did let Them know that what I propose is NOT communism, but Abundancism.
I still am thrilled to have had the opportunity to speak of the Paradigm.
Thank You all for Your support.
For those who banned you out of ATS... their worst nightmare is to have you pop up on other Forums and worse yet..... gasp.... a radio program......
They will not be able to slow you up. Linda
Quote from: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 06:05:19 PM
For those who banned you out of ATS... their worst nightmare is to have you pop up on other Forums and worse yet..... gasp.... a radio program......
They will not be able to slow you up. Linda
You know, Linda... It's rather funny. Up until the ban, I worked exclusively at Alpha Tango Spookz. If They had NOT banned Me and just let Me be, I would probably still be There, preaching away. Because of Their move, My eyes were opened to the fact that the information had to have a much broader dissemination. And it was that that impelled Me into Twitter, and many, many forums and blogs, and emailing sites, and, of course, here.
Yeah, if the idea was to shut Me up - They made the wrong move.
The WRONG move following their agenda.... the right move..... following something much more positive at work here.
Something else here at work.... and its hard sometimes to see its real fingerprints until some time has passed and you can look back....
Its hard to tell these days who are your real friends. And sometimes those you take as enemies are actually working toward your favor. They might not REALIZE it.... but oddly.... sometimes it works that way.
Nothing is a coincidence.
Zorgon. My Husband and I call Mini Coopers to us! Someday we probably will own one.... instead of NOW constantly yelling...... COOPER!!!!! Linda
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 26, 2012, 06:20:11 PM
You know, Linda... It's rather funny. Up until the ban, I worked exclusively at Alpha Tango Spookz. If They had NOT banned Me and just let Me be, I would probably still be There, preaching away.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/mf_popeanim.gif)
Well perhaps I should create a badge for those banned from the Association of Trolls and Skeptics :D The way things are going there it would be a badge of HONOR :P
QuoteAnd it was that that impelled Me into Twitter,
Well don't forget that Twitter and Facebook was what caused the END of ATS as we know it, even Phage said so (and got away with it :P )
Here is that post (Phage also change Avatar)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/Vault/ATS/Phage_Anti_ATS_2.png)
Link here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread842134/pg1#pid14150393)
QuoteYeah, if the idea was to shut Me up - They made the wrong move.
So ummm did ya plug Pegasus on the radio? :P
Quote from: Linda Brown on May 26, 2012, 06:27:09 PM
Zorgon. My Husband and I call Mini Coopers to us! Someday we probably will own one.... instead of NOW constantly yelling...... COOPER!!!!! Linda
My son bought one Apple Green metallic finish...
There is a story that goes with it...
When I was installing security systems, ( I got my son into our company) we had a contract to do a certain house. The owner of this house had a personal security guy on staff. This guy was ex MI5 british Intel complete with the butler accent and the attitude... :P
So when we went to the house we got the lecture....
"One doers NOT speak to the principal (client) ...one comes in the side door..." and so on. Okay so we were there to do the job... who cared...
Well one day my son was working there and the client comes storming in the front door... yelling "Who the HELL owns that Cooper out front?"
Well my son said I do.... and the client walks over laughing and slaps him on the back... says that there were only two of that color in the USA and he wanted both of them :D
So they chatted and the ex MI5 guy went nuts over the fraternization, He called our office and had my son fired...
Next day the client phones the company and says if you don't hire him back, he will pull all his accounts. Our foreman refused (for which he was later fired). So the client did pull al his accounts. Then he bought a small security company, put my son in charge... and now they are good friends. In fact he took him over to Turkey to meet the family. :D
The client was Pierre Omidyar — founder and chairman of Ebay
And all because my son bought that car :D
Oh, no doubt, Linda. I am quite glad I left - and a month later found out I was banned! LOL! - because of Their treatment of Me.
Because, yes. The work has moved forward much faster. I have some prominent names now following (and retweeting!) Me - and they have hundreds of thousands following Them.
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 26, 2012, 08:29:44 AM
I'm not sure I am the best of interviewers. Better an interviewee. But maybe I will create a series of just Me... Or, I could try My hand at having guests... Will look into it tomorrow. WAY late here and I must sleep.
undo once ran a radio show for us... had a nice start Interviewed John Lear and Davis Serada and a few others. I think I saved some of the MP3's from that but too bad it never went further. It would be nice if we could add podcasts here
Quote from: zorgon on May 26, 2012, 07:37:46 PM
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/mf_popeanim.gif)
Well perhaps I should create a badge for those banned from the Association of Trolls and Skeptics :D The way things are going there it would be a badge of HONOR :P
Especially for any that once achieved a silver or above status, surely (particularly nasty trolls don't count).
QuoteWell don't forget that Twitter and Facebook was what caused the END of ATS as we know it, even Phage said so (and got away with it :P )
Here is that post (Phage also change Avatar)
Well, Phage is one of the darlings, don't Ya know. Liked His old avatar better.
QuoteSo ummm did ya plug Pegasus on the radio? :P
Zorg, if You want Me plugging Peg (so to speak), I will surely do so. I wound up plugging the site where I have My most up-to-date blog piece (I like the blog - I can edit any time), The End of Entropy. It has all the links 'n' stuff showing PDF's and YT vids... Wasn't so much a plug as it came up when I gave the link to the piece.
Next time, I guarantee, Pegasus will be thoroughly plugged!
Quote from: zorgon on May 26, 2012, 07:54:32 PM
undo once ran a radio show for us... had a nice start Interviewed John Lear and Davis Serada and a few others. I think I saved some of the MP3's from that but too bad it never went further. It would be nice if we could add podcasts here
Loved the story about Your son's car!
As for podcasts... Great Idea! I may actually be a good interviewer - don't know. Never tried. But I would happily do what I could to make it a success!
Now Zorgon,
Was the mention of the Cooper a coincidence, or not?
;)
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 26, 2012, 07:46:49 AM
No, no. It is the vid from the InnerSight show I am having problems with. They gave Me a disk with an odd format, and VLC will play it - but it will not process the whole into a format After Effects or SVMS will handle except small pieces of the video and all of the audio - and I need the whole.
It was a half hour show. I did it in March.
Gotcha.
What is the extension of the file. avi? mpg? etc.
VLC is a handy viewer, but will not convert formats for you.
I suggest you get 'SUPER' by eRightSoft. (free)
Drag and drop any video file you want on to it's page and it will play it for you. Double clicking on your file name in there will display all the technical information about your file.
From that page you can choose what type of file you want it to convert your file to - avi, mpg, whatever.
eta: If you have an audio file instead of video that you want to convert, I suggest Goldwave audio editor. (free trial)
Just got home to listen, and great interview!
Its also special to hear your voice, as I wondered what you sounded like. Very concise and informative, and a true heart of caring was what I sensed.
You rock!
Littleenki
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 26, 2012, 08:07:27 PM
Loved the story about Your son's car!
As for podcasts... Great Idea! I may actually be a good interviewer - don't know. Never tried. But I would happily do what I could to make it a success!
i think you would make an excellent interviewer. you're personable, intellectual, knowledgeable on various subjects related to your research and even outside your research. you're inherently kind-hearted and classy. you don't sound like a raving maniac. women, such as myself, when we get to preachin' it, we often sound kinda loopy. our voices get shrill and all mom like. but you were solid, matter of fact, but still very interesting. me likes.
this lady is really interesting but she's like me. she starts sounding a bit loopy after awhile. not because what we're talking about is or is not valid, rather just because we ladies have a kind of vocal irritant, and we can get hyper focused and it shows up in our voices. can't think of a better way to put it.
i had to keep telling myself : lower register, lower register (Cause it sounds so much better on radio)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQhEB9qDQy0
my kids are always saying: "mom! lower your voice." lol it isn't that i'm loud, i just get too excited when i talk about subjects i'm interested in and the pitch of my voice goes up.
QuoteYou know, Linda... It's rather funny. Up until the ban, I worked exclusively at Alpha Tango Spookz. If They had NOT banned Me and just let Me be, I would probably still be There, preaching away. Because of Their move, My eyes were opened to the fact that the information had to have a much broader dissemination. And it was that that impelled Me into Twitter, and many, many forums and blogs, and emailing sites, and, of course, here.
Yeah, if the idea was to shut Me up - They made the wrong move.
Right, and if we hadn't been so rudely interrupted mid-topic, i would still be there...
I notice that more long-time members have quit or have been kicked out.
I once thought ATS was where it all happened, but if you compare the comments there nowadays to Pegasus, it's no match at all.
I really got fed up with repeating myself over there,but here you only have to say it once.
That says a lot for the intelligence of the Pegasus team ;)
We actually have meaningful debates here, it's great.
I also once had a dark green Mini....but then i've had 35 cars already :)
Zorgon, a podcast sounds like a good idea, you could pick the threads with the most hits & make a podcast show, Only who pays the phone bill ?
It would certainly speed up the debates if we had audio, and it would be nice to hear each other's voices, gives it an extra dimension.
"Association of Trolls & Sceptics" LOL!
::)
Indeed, PWM, I second that!
The Pegasus Research Hour, pretty cool!
Hows that rock climbing going!?!?!?
Cheers!
Le
Quote from: A51Watcher on May 26, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Gotcha.
What is the extension of the file. avi? mpg? etc.
VLC is a handy viewer, but will not convert formats for you.
I suggest you get 'SUPER' by eRightSoft. (free)
Drag and drop any video file you want on to it's page and it will play it for you. Double clicking on your file name in there will display all the technical information about your file.
From that page you can choose what type of file you want it to convert your file to - avi, mpg, whatever.
eta: If you have an audio file instead of video that you want to convert, I suggest Goldwave audio editor. (free trial)
Ah. Thanks. I'll look for SUPER. It's what I call a Voice of Bob file. LOL! .VOB Never seen that file format before. After Effects and SVMS both will handle .avi and mpg. They have no clue about the Voice of Bob files.
Quote from: Littleenki on May 26, 2012, 10:28:33 PM
Just got home to listen, and great interview!
Its also special to hear your voice, as I wondered what you sounded like. Very concise and informative, and a true heart of caring was what I sensed.
You rock!
Littleenki
You do know how to make a woman blush! [blush]
Thanks.
Quote from: undo11 on May 26, 2012, 10:37:25 PM
i think you would make an excellent interviewer. you're personable, intellectual, knowledgeable on various subjects related to your research and even outside your research. you're inherently kind-hearted and classy. you don't sound like a raving maniac. women, such as myself, when we get to preachin' it, we often sound kinda loopy. our voices get shrill and all mom like. but you were solid, matter of fact, but still very interesting. me likes.
And now I'm blushing again! [blush!] I would love to try M'hand at interviewing... Just not done it, so I don't make promises.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on May 26, 2012, 11:19:00 PM
Right, and if we hadn't been so rudely interrupted mid-topic, i would still be there...
I notice that more long-time members have quit or have been kicked out.
I once thought ATS was where it all happened, but if you compare the comments there nowadays to Pegasus, it's no match at all.
I really got fed up with repeating myself over there,but here you only have to say it once.
That says a lot for the intelligence of the Pegasus team ;)
We actually have meaningful debates here, it's great.
I also once had a dark green Mini....but then i've had 35 cars already :)
Zorgon, a podcast sounds like a good idea, you could pick the threads with the most hits & make a podcast show, Only who pays the phone bill ?
It would certainly speed up the debates if we had audio, and it would be nice to hear each other's voices, gives it an extra dimension.
"Association of Trolls & Sceptics" LOL!
::)
PWM, I was told the topic You started at...Association of Trolls & Skeptics...has been pulled down. Guess They didn't want anyOne to notice I had not been around. Man, I get reports from all over the web, I tell Ya! It's AMAZING how many People know Me and seek Me out! (Don't know if You all know Petrus from...the ASSn, but He located Me on yet another board!)
Anyway, I'm glad to hear from many friends. Thanks for posting that, short-lived though it is reported to have been.
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 27, 2012, 06:28:19 AM
Ah. Thanks. I'll look for SUPER. It's what I call a Voice of Bob file. LOL! .VOB Never seen that file format before. After Effects and SVMS both will handle .avi and mpg. They have no clue about the Voice of Bob files.
Ahh ok! That is a file that exists on discs that you play in your DVD player.
Take a DVD movie you rented and look at the files. You will see most of them are VOB. (lol I'm gonna remember that now forever lol)
Anyways super should handle it fine.
If not get back to me. I have methods of converting any file, have no fear. ;)
Quote from: A51Watcher on May 27, 2012, 06:49:16 AM
Ahh ok! That is a file that exists on discs that you play in your DVD player.
Take a DVD movie you rented and look at the files. You will see most of them are VOB. (lol I'm gonna remember that now forever lol)
Anyways super should handle it fine.
If not get back to me. I have methods of converting any file, have no fear. ;)
K. Tomorrow. Way tired tonight. Thanks so much!
Looks like you're right, Amy:
Quotefrom: DontTreadOnMe
sent: 26-5-2012 at 16:16
It was necessary to move a thread you created titled, Amaterasu gives radio interview on the money paradigm which was originally posted in the Breaking Alternative News forum, to the Trash Bin forum. DontTreadOnMe has initiated this action, and included this message about it:
We do not discuss banned members and
15d.) Cross-Posting: You will not cross-post content from other discussion boards (unless you receive advance written permission from TAN or their agents). You will not post-by-proxy the material of banned members or other individuals who are not members, but have written a response to content within a thread on these forums.
I guess the days of speaking your mind are over at ATS :(
I didn't cross post anything, i merely gave the link to the podcast.....
Talk about hipocracy......
ETA: and just who are their 'agents' anyway???
ATS HA ATS, whilst i would not be here if it was not for meeting key members there i wont be off back for any long periods of time like the old days. its been reduced to a smelting pot of poorly informed newbies (facebook twitter??) just bickering away.
I find the place depressing.And it's full of the 3 letter folks imo.
i do pop in but i live here.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on May 27, 2012, 12:47:32 PM
ATS HA ATS, whilst i would not be here if it was not for meeting key members there i wont be off back for any long periods of time like the old days. its been reduced to a smelting pot of poorly informed newbies (facebook twitter??) just bickering away.
I find the place depressing.And it's full of the 3 letter folks imo.
i do pop in but i live here.
I agree, stealthy, after I was informed about a thread someone had posted that I may want to read, I found the site to be a conglomeration of haves versus has beens, and couldnt find any balance there at all mentally or physically!LOL!
Its a shame I couldnt find the thread he spoke of amongst the quagmire of media wannabeisms there is there, so why bother?
If theres a subject worthy of wise, concise discussion, it will be presented on Pegasus and melded into the one mind we truly are here, not trolling or facebooking, but real honest debate and acceptance for all theories.
Thank goodness they showed their true colors there, PWM, and Amy, anyone who bans you for any reason, doesnt exist in my universe.
Hows that podcast idea coming along, Luke? I think we have our first guest right here!!!:D
Cheers!
Littleenki
AM nice job on the show 8) your on at the 27 min mark for those wishing to skip to her.
Being a time served mechanical engineer i agree that if you love your work you will do it for free just to help out or maybe get a favour in return.I do this all the time,funny really, i thought every one knew how things worked and it took me a while to learn thats not the case.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on May 27, 2012, 02:06:26 PM
AM nice job on the show 8) your on at the 27 min mark for those wishing to skip to her.
Being a time served mechanical engineer i agree that if you love your work you will do it for free just to help out or maybe get a favour in return.I do this all the time,funny really, i thought every one knew how things worked and it took me a while to learn thats not the case.
Mornin' stealthy!
Ive also spent decades turning the wrenches for free, and have many good friends to show for it!
When I did do it for a living, it wasnt the same, as there was a stipulation of time and money involved that placed the whole idea on an island where I couldnt get back from.
I can rebuild a 350 from memory, and do it with a happy heart, but if it's for someone who is employing me..the passion isnt there.:(
Maybe soon these skills and talents we have will gain weight in the big picture, when our leaders in their big houses cant seem to feed their families and start coming to us for their necessities.
Of course they wont get much help from me, but they will see the importance of eliminating money, as they wont be able to even buy a vowel with their paper crap.
a-e-i-oh no, theyre doomed!
Eat well now, PTB, soon youll be dying of starvation while we grow and build a new paradigm of balance and goodwill among all of mankind, that you wont be able to charge or pay for!
Blessed be the barterer!
Le
Quote from: Littleenki on May 27, 2012, 02:15:35 PM
Mornin' stealthy!
Ive also spent decades turning the wrenches for free, and have many good friends to show for it!
When I did do it for a living, it wasnt the same, as there was a stipulation of time and money involved that placed the whole idea on an island where I couldnt get back from.
I can rebuild a 350 from memory, and do it with a happy heart, but if it's for someone who is employing me..the passion isnt there.:(
Maybe soon these skills and talents we have will gain weight in the big picture, when our leaders in their big houses cant seem to feed their families and start coming to us for their necessities.
Of course they wont get much help from me, but they will see the importance of eliminating money, as they wont be able to even buy a vowel with their paper crap.
a-e-i-oh no, theyre doomed!
Eat well now, PTB, soon youll be dying of starvation while we grow and build a new paradigm of balance and goodwill among all of mankind, that you wont be able to charge or pay for!
Blessed be the barterer!
Le
THAT my friend is uncanny. were so alike.good on you i agree with all you have said.
i shake your hand and do have some gold :)
Mmmm. Gold...look how it spreads!:D
Looking forward to more studies together!
Littleenki
Its a good thing that barter is coming back because thats how I operate almost entirely. And George is pretty darned good at it too..... He worked for a few hours helping a friend with a mechanical problem this fellow had had for months... remaining unsolved..... George fixed it in four hours.... the man....a roofer.... said that he would have NEVER been able to get it fixed.... so next weekend we finish the section of roof that we have needed .... with his help for the entire day..... and he is happy to do it. Not a dime changed hands and everybody came out ahead......
And lets see.... My horseshoer was able to give his wife the quality Yorkie that she has always dreamed of ( made him a HERO in his household...) and I don't have to worry about shoeing for my horses for at least two years. He is a happy camper and so am I.
But when cash does come in our direction it goes quickly out.... called investing in our own neighborhood economy.
And things are getting better around here. More contractors picking up big corporate jobs.... and that all filters downhill. So..... how are things in YOUR neighborhood? Linda
You mean..whats in your wallet? LOL!
It is a system of eternal usefulness, the barter, and as art show folks, we have a beautiful selection of unique art here at home, and many nice fellow artisits are wearing our jewelry to boot!
Ive saved so much money throught the years fixing stuff for people, I have a backlog of help to draw from!
We may need to employ this system soon, and we, on this and other forums, are eons ahead of that as we are aware of it's possible need!
My mantra...Chlorine, Guns, and Honey! Bees, get us out of this!
To the tune of this classic,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjVbypiUOHA
Cheers!
Littleenki
MY neighbourhood is the UK Linda and things are very bad if you need the income from a job that you probably hate to do to get by.
even the polish people are leaving to find work.I'm lucky being multi skilled and not being the materialistic person i was years ago.
I help those who need it for free when i can,BUT you cannot help a person who cannot help himself! even the basics. the youth of today have zero skills and don't wish to learn as there happy living off the government for free.In some case's they cannot help it that's all they know,There 3rd generation benefit seekers.
There are still some people with morals but family/company standards went out the window a long time ago.It's 99% work through "Agency's" and to me that sucks,your just a replaceable No in the system. ::) being in the north is not to bad compared with some of the poor cities in the west yorks area but things could be better.
Ok, I see a lot of talk about "barter." If We have free energy and robots doing the necessary work no One WANTS to do... ANY form of "money" will be unnecessary - from barter, trade, and work exchange to shells, beads, coins, bills, electronic funds...or anything else material. BUT...
For appreciation, thanks, lauds, reputation, status, love, and Self satisfaction... We WILL do things. NOT because We HAVE to, but because We WANT to. The currency becomes a social one. Gone will be the motives to behave poorly to "get ahead." Poor behavior will earn One pariahhood and nothing more. The only things that will enrich One will be thoughtfulness, helpfulness, caring, kindness, and efforts to BETTER things for ALL.
And sure, there may be some of the, "Hey! I have this lovely painting I did. I'll give it to You in exchange for that gorgeous necklace You made." But mostly, We will just give such objects to those who show extreme appreciation. That will be Our heartwarming payment.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on May 27, 2012, 12:47:32 PM
I find the place depressing.And it's full of the 3 letter folks imo.
Well it's not the 3 letter folks that are the problem... some of my best info comes from those agencies and there are already several of 'them' here :D
One has to learn to separate the good agents from the bad. ATS is also a three letter agency :P
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on May 27, 2012, 12:21:35 PM
ETA: and just who are their 'agents' anyway???
THAT is a VERY good question ;) I have some ideas on that, but don't think it wise to post that :o
Quote from: zorgon on May 27, 2012, 07:19:16 PM
Well it's not the 3 letter folks that are the problem... some of my best info comes from those agencies and there are already several of 'them' here :D
One has to learn to separate the good agents from the bad. ATS is also a three letter agency :P
THAT is a VERY good question ;) I have some ideas on that, but don't think it wise to post that :o
Hey, PWM is a 3 letter agency!LOL!
I dont worry about the bad guys, as they will show themselves if they are out to get ya!
Unless we live in a faraday cage, we are all suspect, and thats ok, as we need to know bad if we are to define the good.
Le, a 2 letter agency:o
Cheers!
Quote from: Linda Brown on May 27, 2012, 05:04:51 PM
Its a good thing that barter is coming back because thats how I operate almost entirely.
One think about barter... its VERY hard for the tax man to get his cut :P
Quote from: Littleenki on May 27, 2012, 07:25:10 PM
Hey, PWM is a 3 letter agency!LOL!
Pssstttt don't tell anyone but errmmmm
So is PRC :o
and "Pegasus" is used as code name in so many Black Ops projects I lost count ;D
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 27, 2012, 07:01:19 PM
Ok, I see a lot of talk about "barter." If We have free energy and robots doing the necessary work no One WANTS to do... ANY form of "money" will be unnecessary - from barter, trade, and work exchange to shells, beads, coins, bills, electronic funds...or anything else material.
The human race needs to advance a LOT more before that could even begin to happen. 90%ish of humans are lazy by nature and if everything was free and done for them they would simply do nothing.
Communist Russia is proof of this and the main reason that communism fails. There was zero incentive to do better, so no one wanted to work harder to create something or improve something. There was no drive or incentive to invent things...
A few people would run with it and use the freedom to advantage... but the majority of humanity would turn into lazy bums. Even Star Trek covered that with the Holodeck addiction
You would see a world wide "opium den" like happened in China
QuoteATS HA ATS, whilst i would not be here if it was not for meeting key members there i wont be off back for any long periods of time like the old days. its been reduced to a smelting pot of poorly informed newbies (facebook twitter??) just bickering away.
I find the place depressing.And it's full of the 3 letter folks imo.
i do pop in but i live here.
I was going to say something along those lines, but you just said it for me :) thanks, SA
LE;
QuoteIf theres a subject worthy of wise, concise discussion, it will be presented on Pegasus and melded into the one mind we truly are here, not trolling or facebooking, but real honest debate and acceptance for all theories.
YES.
QuoteHows that podcast idea coming along, Luke? I think we have our first guest right here!!!:D
Cheers!
Littleenki
You want ME to organise it??
Oh sh...... but i could just possibly, i can do a podcast allright, and dump it on my own music channel LOL
First i will have to install a free telephone-via-internet system like Skype, and i will need you to call in that number at a specified time (and also have Skype of course). I can do a simple intro, hit pause, and wait for the phone to ring.
That session can be recorded, converted to MP3, & dumped on my Music site.
And it has to be free, as long as you have internet ( i assume you do LOL) because it's all about the 'freedom' part of 'free' energy.
I would loved to have posted this on that other site, but the above explanations say it all.
We certainly don't want it going public just yet, and we don't want it trolled to death before it gets going...
By the way, there was some bad language in that podcast, i trust we will avoid that in ours!
( I think the mods missed that one)
And, Dave, if i did a podcast, You, Amy, & Linda would be my first guests.
Sometimes, i just whish everyone had a Yaesu....Thats Shortwave R/T for you older folks!
Good thing i read the thread again before posting, Linda :)
QuoteAnd lets see.... My horseshoer was able to give his wife the quality Yorkie that she has always dreamed of ( made him a HERO in his household...) and I don't have to worry about shoeing for my horses for at least two years. He is a happy camper and so am I.
But when cash does come in our direction it goes quickly out.... called investing in our own neighborhood economy.
And things are getting better around here. More contractors picking up big corporate jobs.... and that all filters downhill. So..... how are things in YOUR neighborhood? Linda
Exactly! That's part of the 'turning it around' that has to happen.
Why do i have to wear jeans that have been trucked from Scotland to Poland, back to Scotland for the label, and ended up in the middle of Europe on my butt?
What a waste of energy!
We can all make our own jeans? At least somebody in the community will, and they will have no shortage of anything :)
And so it can be with the rest of us, ALL of us has something they are really good at, even if they be Agent,Troll or Sceptic......
(sorry, couldn't resist that)
Stealthy:
QuoteMY neighbourhood is the UK Linda and things are very bad if you need the income from a job that you probably hate to do to get by.
even the polish people are leaving to find work.I'm lucky being multi skilled and not being the materialistic person i was years ago.
I help those who need it for free when i can,BUT you cannot help a person who cannot help himself! even the basics. the youth of today have zero skills and don't wish to learn as there happy living off the government for free.In some case's they cannot help it that's all they know,There 3rd generation benefit seekers.
There are still some people with morals but family/company standards went out the window a long time ago.It's 99% work through "Agency's" and to me that sucks,your just a replaceable No in the system. being in the north is not to bad compared with some of the poor cities in the west yorks area but things could be better.
They will, but it won't all be roses, i was born in the worst city ever, i'm soooo glad i left!
Amy:
I'm not going to quote everything you said, i agree with all of it ;)
Hi Zorg, how's things?
There's a lot of great folks over there still, but trying to find their posts in the tumult of juvenile posting is getting boring.
And you are right, we won't speculate on other forums, it's not polite. By all means make fun of 'em now & again :)
QuoteHey, PWM is a 3 letter agency!LOL!
AAArghh! Ya got me...(sound of troll dissolving into the swamp...)
QuoteQuote from: Linda Brown on Today at 09:04:51 AM
Its a good thing that barter is coming back because thats how I operate almost entirely.
One think about barter... its VERY hard for the tax man to get his cut
VERY true, i never thought of that.
Shows just how smart i am....
QuoteThe human race needs to advance a LOT more before that could even begin to happen. 90%ish of humans are lazy by nature and if everything was free and done for them they would simply do nothing.
Communist Russia is proof of this and the main reason that communism fails. There was zero incentive to do better, so no one wanted to work harder to create something or improve something. There was no drive or incentive to invent things...
A few people would run with it and use the freedom to advantage... but the majority of humanity would turn into lazy bums. Even Star Trek covered that with the Holodeck addiction
You would see a world wide "opium den" like happened in China
I guess you have a point there, but people can't afford to be lazy bums, not just yet.
There's nothing wrong with the work ethic per se, everyone will want to work if they learn that they directly benefit from it, physically, socially, and so on.
And yes, i often work for free or for some favour, and it's just another little drop of human sweat in the machine of life.
First the environment will have to change, before the people do.
Certainly there is no shortage of volunteers, look at all those poor lost souls on YooToob & elsewhere, looking for a way out.
Eventually they will gravitate to sites like ATS, or maybe even here. And they can ask their questions, and we can all help them to find answers, and they will bring their own special knoweledge/skills along too, like Deuem et al.
Ok maybe we will make but a small dent in this failing machine, but it will fail whether we dent it or not :) We should be building the new machine, not keep trying to keep the old one going..
I know that sounds a bit Communist, but i'm not into any kind of 'ism as you all know by now;)
Cool thread this, BTW
Quote from: zorgon on May 27, 2012, 07:34:15 PM
The human race needs to advance a LOT more before that could even begin to happen. 90%ish of humans are lazy by nature and if everything was free and done for them they would simply do nothing.
No We're not. 90% of Us cannot afford Our bliss - be it education, traveling, researching, painting, sculpting, creating movies, teaching, camping, ee. tee. cee. There would be few couch potatoes if Those who now are such could afford to do what They love to do or go where They want to go.
QuoteCommunist Russia is proof of this and the main reason that communism fails. There was zero incentive to do better, so no one wanted to work harder to create something or improve something. There was no drive or incentive to invent things...
No it's not. At no time, in the energy scarcity of C.R. did everyOne have the freedom to pursue Their bliss. And when the system is set up where the only work available is the stuff robots will do in the abundance paradigm, then sure. No One will work. They don't want to do the menial stuff and They can't afford the wonderful stuff.
QuoteA few people would run with it and use the freedom to advantage... but the majority of humanity would turn into lazy bums. Even Star Trek covered that with the Holodeck addiction
When necessary, People will do necessary problem-solving - especially in the stigmergic governance where everyOne who WANTS to participate, who CARES, can do so. And believe Me, if the problem affect You, You WILL care. If no One cares...it's not a problem. And if there are no problems, everything runs smoothly... More power to You if You want to play on the holodeck.
QuoteYou would see a world wide "opium den" like happened in China
Considering that such drug use (to the point of "abuse") is virtually always a means of escaping powerlessness and strife, I will bet not.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on May 27, 2012, 08:02:55 PM
... Skype...
My system hates Skype. Crash city on this old, tired box.
There's something to both arguments, but let's not forget that most people need something to do. It will come about by itself.
In the middle ages, we had Guilds & such, apprenteships in one craft or another. This has all but died out, i get handed 'engineers' who learnt everything from a computer, but they can't chop down a few trees to make a bridge, hell, i wouldn't trust them to boil an egg.
"Sorry, sir, but the computer says we can't do it"
Once there is no more TV, no internet, no Playstations, and especially no lavish lifestyle, people will get off their butts & do things for themselves.
Once we get past the 'work or starve' part of the transition, things will start to move a lot smoother......let's just keep our minds on the goal.
PS we don't need Skype, i have a spare phone line lying around in here somewhere......
QuoteCommunist Russia is proof of this and the main reason that communism fails. There was zero incentive to do better, so no one wanted to work harder to create something or improve something. There was no drive or incentive to invent things...
No it's not. At no time, in the energy scarcity of C.R. did everyOne have the freedom to pursue Their bliss. And when the system is set up where the only work available is the stuff robots will do in the abundance paradigm, then sure. No One will work. They don't want to do the menial stuff and They can't afford the wonderful stuff.
Both of you have it right, there was no
incentive to work, and no
money to improve the situation.
(at least, there are a whole lot of Russian millionairs around now, so why isn't that money going back into the economy?)
Same problem as capitalism...
Once the paper is worthless, only knoweledge will be important, or worth anything at all..
And yes, Asimov saw all this (including the pitfalls)...
Don't get me wrong, there will be plenty of lazy couch potatoes, but they will eventually die of obesity & heart disease, while everyone is out playing on the beach, if that isn't a good incentive, what is?
Why not just legalise everything, & let the junks kill themselves off, as Amy says: Each to their Bliss.
Of course it's a crying shame & waste of a good human, but if THAT fact was taught in schools, there would be far less of it, IMHO.
PWM
Quoteonly knoweledge will be important, or worth anything at all.
only certain kinds of knowledge will be worthless. like so many people today think they know all there is to know, or all they want to know, about the last 10,000 years of civilization.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on May 27, 2012, 09:19:57 PM
Once we get past the 'work or starve' part of the transition, things will start to move a lot smoother......let's just keep our minds on the goal.
are you sure you like people?
Quote from: undo11 on May 27, 2012, 09:50:56 PM
PWM
only certain kinds of knowledge will be worthless. like so many people today think they know all there is to know, or all they want to know, about the last 10,000 years of civilization.
Yes, i agree with you, absolutely. We know very little about our past, and even less about the future.
Do i like people?
To be honest: not really, i'm a bit of a sociopath.
Normally i think 'just let 'em get on with it'.
But in the last 10 years or so, i have witnessed a whole lot of stuff that makes me think twice.
When i meet INDIVIDUALS, i normally get on with them straight away, never had a problem, (unless they are drunken skinheads out for a fight), i won't have a problem with them 8)
But i cast my own feelings aside here, i FEEL for humanity as a whole, even though i think we are no more than a virus on planet earth.
I FEEL for the earth, and i have enough faith left in my fellow humans to know that they feel what i feel.
We are looking for a solution, even if it's 99% debate.
I am learning to communicate with other humans, give me time,OK?
'Typo virus' 8)
so then is it safe to say that you're really not interested in the welfare of the sick, elderly or starving, but rather in the welfare of the earth and people who have enough money to get whatever they need ? for example, my teeth all turned to chalk, years ago, as a result, i put alot of stress on my digestive system by eating anything with bulk, cause most of it i can't properly chew. my dentures were not fitted properly, so by the time all the swelling went down i found myself with dentures that needed to be repaired and no money to do so. we have had to pay for all my dental work out of our own pockets. we spent a good 30,000 dollars over the years, only to end up having to have them all pulled out at once. and it wasn't because i was lazy and didn't take care of my teeth.
what happened was i was a health nut, and kept getting weird upper respiratory infections, one right after the other, nearly back to back (allergies that went undiagnosed for at least 20 years, some of them food allergies). so i lived on chewable vitamin c made from acerola cherries. i'd chew 1000s of milligrams worth every day. ate the enamel right off my teeth and i had no clue. one day i had a free visit to a preventative dentist. he said, what have you been eating?! you have NO enamel on your teeth! he was shocked. so was i, to the tune of 30k in dental costs.
anyway, that is just one thing. i also got gulf war syndrome went in the hospital in intensive neuro critical care (the bill was 75k, but we only had to pay 25% of it, still that's alot of money and they wanted it all right now now now and he was making poverty level wages working full time for the us air force . we qualified for food stamps, even while he was over seas being injected with experimental vaccines that darn near killed me. i'm just one out of billions of people that would not be able to earn her own keep. literally. after the coma and the hospital, i was diagnosed with breast cancer. the chemo also nearly killed me. my chemo port got infected, and when they flushed the port, it shot septic infection right into a main artery (while my immune system was fried from chemo!). just because i had a hard life, doesn't mean you need to wish even more hard luck on me by suggesting if i can't work, i shouldn't eat. that's a prisoner's life not the life of a human.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on May 27, 2012, 06:43:33 PM
MY neighbourhood is the UK Linda and things are very bad if you need the income from a job that you probably hate to do to get by.
even the polish people are leaving to find work.I'm lucky being multi skilled and not being the materialistic person i was years ago.
I help those who need it for free when i can,BUT you cannot help a person who cannot help himself! even the basics. the youth of today have zero skills and don't wish to learn as there happy living off the government for free.In some case's they cannot help it that's all they know,There 3rd generation benefit seekers.
There are still some people with morals but family/company standards went out the window a long time ago.It's 99% work through "Agency's" and to me that sucks,your just a replaceable No in the system. ::) being in the north is not to bad compared with some of the poor cities in the west yorks area but things could be better.
United States calling... 8)
Heya stealthy,
Good observations. Sad to say we see much the same over here.
It would seem that this is the latest dot on the curve in the ongoing trend started some time ago of the focus and priority in one's life being self- amusement.
Here's a chap who observed the same -
Roger Waters - Amused To Death
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMijMWQlnUc[/youtube]
Doctor Doctor what is wrong with me
This supermarket life is getting long
What is the heart life of a colour TV
What is the shelf life of a teenage queen
Ooh western woman
Ooh western girl
News hound sniffs the air
When Jessica Hahn goes down
He latches on to that symbol
Of detachment
Attracted by the peeling away of feeling
The celebrity of the abused shell the belle
Ooh western woman
Ooh western girl
And the children of Melrose
Strut their stuff
Is absolute zero cold enough
And out in the valley warm and clean
The little ones sit by their TV screens
No thoughts to think
No tears to cry
All sucked dry
Down to the very last breath
Bartender what is wrong with me
Why am I so out of breath
The captain said excuse me ma'am
This species has amused itself to death
Amused itself to death
Amused itself to death
We watched the tragedy unfold
We did as we were told
We bought and sold
It was the greatest show on earth
But then it was over
We ohhed and aahed
We drove our racing cars
We ate our last few jars of caviar
And somewhere out there in the stars
A keen-eyed look-out
Spied a flickering light
Our last hurrah
And when they found our shadows
Grouped around the TV sets
They ran down every lead
They repeated every test
They checked out all the data on their lists
And then the alien anthropologists
Admitted they were still perplexed
But on eliminating every other reason
For our sad demise
They logged the only explanation left -
This species has amused itself to death
No tears to cry no feelings left
This species has amused itself to death
(his powers of observation is almost good as Pim's eh? ;) )
a51watcher,
most rock stars make me want to scream because they live these lavish lives with everything they need and yet they bitch and complain that the grunts out here working their butts off, come home and watch tv.
Quote from: undo11 on May 27, 2012, 10:37:31 PM
a51watcher,
most rock stars make me want to scream because they live these lavish lives with everything they need and yet they bitch and complain that the grunts out here working their butts off, come home and watch tv.
Agreed.
I think you'll find Rog however, to be a horse of another color altogether. ;)
Check out his accomplishments and activism and charity outside of Rock that he uses his notoriety for.
Quoteso then is it safe to say that you're really not interested in the welfare of the sick, elderly or starving, but rather in the welfare of the earth and people who have enough money to get whatever they need ?
What? money? NO, money is the whole problem, it's outlived it's usefulness (if it ever had any)
And i feel for ALL humans, ESPECIALLY the sick.
We can cure most diseases already, but Big Pharma doesn't want that to happen, so it does not happen.....
Quotejust because i had a hard life, doesn't mean you need to wish even more hard luck on me by suggesting if i can't work, i shouldn't eat. that's a prisoner's life not the life of a human.
I never said that, i said lazy people who don't WANT to work, not those that CAN'T.
And i do have feelings, i am deeply moved by your account, and it even angers me that we let it happen, while spending countless billions on black projects etc, it's insane!
I can't do much about insurance/medical policies, i have the same problems, only they are not as bad as yours, you have my sympathy for that, i'm not a robot...
A51: Floyd rocks! plenty to read between the lines in their albums ;)
They were born in the same sh*t i was, and they climbed out of it, good for them.
yes they climbed out of it and that is fantastic. but these people have home theaters with surround sound, in ground swimming pools, expensive narcotics habits, private jets, and all the same issues you find people have when they can afford them. so why can't a poor or middle class guy, after working a hard job all day, come home and relax in front of the tv? i don't think it's relaxation that's the problem.
for example, all the original charlie's angels, who were fitness and health conscious, all developed breast cancer, all three of them. they can't say it was because they smoked or ate chicken skin. something else is going on.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on May 27, 2012, 09:47:20 PM
Don't get me wrong, there will be plenty of lazy couch potatoes, but they will eventually die of obesity & heart disease, while everyone is out playing on the beach, if that isn't a good incentive, what is?
Why not just legalise everything, & let the junks kill themselves off, as Amy says: Each to their Bliss.
Of course it's a crying shame & waste of a good human, but if THAT fact was taught in schools, there would be far less of it, IMHO.
In the abundance paradigm... Everything IS legal - except as the three Laws preclude: willfully hurting, killing, defrauding Others, willfully taking or damaging Other's property.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on May 27, 2012, 10:45:31 PM
What? money? NO, money is the whole problem, it's outlived it's usefulness (if it ever had any)
And i feel for ALL humans, ESPECIALLY the sick.
We can cure most diseases already, but Big Pharma doesn't want that to happen, so it does not happen.....
You are so right, Luke!
For those who are new to the abundance paradigm, look up The End of Entropy here on Living Moon.
Quote from: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on May 27, 2012, 10:45:31 PM
A51: Floyd rocks! plenty to read between the lines in their albums ;)
They were born in the same sh*t i was, and they climbed out of it, good for them.
Funny you should mention that.
Rog was in town the other night and I 'thought I might like to go to the show'. ;) ;D
Having seen the original some 30 odd years ago, I was reminded of a prop he used back then that I have never seen repeated but it really brought home what he had managed to accomplish.
You see The Wall is his true life story. All of it.
(losing his father in the war as a youngster is one of the reasons for his activism against wars)
He had gradually become totally isolated from everyone and everything in his life: family, friends, his cheating wife, bandmates, fans, managers, the whole lot and he finally snapped and had a nervous breakdown. Tour cancelled.
During his recovery is when he wrote most of it, but some was written while he was on the precipice.
Anyway, the prop I mentioned is while singing Comfortably Numb, he appeard onstage wearing a doctor's white lab coat, and one of those things on your forehead doctors used to wear that is round and shiny and has an eyehole in the middle. Only this one was huge! lol
Also, standing beside him he was holding this HUGE hypodermic needle like say 10 feet tall 12 inches round as i recall.
At that moment it struck me. Here is a guy who had built up all these walls for protection around him, that many of us do, and yet, in the end he had managed to self- diagnose himself and was purposefully working to bring them down and bridge the gap.
He was the doctor of himself!
(related to your comment about them climbing out of it)
Cheers!
Quote from: zorgon on May 27, 2012, 07:19:16 PM
Well it's not the 3 letter folks that are the problem... some of my best info comes from those agencies and there are already several of 'them' here :D
One has to learn to separate the good agents from the bad. ATS is also a three letter agency :P
THAT is a VERY good question ;) I have some ideas on that, but don't think it wise to post that :o
AHhhhh that came out wrong! The 911 forum over there (ATS) is where the 3 letter jibe came from
and i can't stand the bickering. YES i know we have some of the best members on this forum who are in the agency's and DOD etc. (hobbit er menworth fricking hill AND irton moor!! come on!really?!!) i can go on but i wont. MY BAD. a slip of the tongue, no offence meant.
should of thought that one out a little. :-[ i'll get me coat....
Area51, Floyd rock...Playswithmachines, i'm with ya buddy Undo,yes & maybe zorgon, Hmm good point true amy, I Know ironic?
just a heads up to ya all there as i like you all to know i'm reading the post's Ta. ;)
When I mentioned above 'losing his father in the war as a youngster'... it's really a shallow expression of the real importance of Mummies an Daddy's to a young one's world.
Even to those seperated from their parents during war, never knowing if they will see them again.
In this clip Rog has a go at conveying that importance -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5925cfwBmU
Imagine then, being the one left sitting there whose Daddy does not come home. :(
...Is it any wonder then he is very vocal and active in trying to stop all wars anywhere anytime and encouraging others to join him??
The following is based on a true story that occured during a recent war -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8pLTI3Y9WU
Not the torturer will scare me
Nor the body's final fall
Nor the barrels of death's rifles
Nor the shadows on the wall
Nor the night when to the ground
The last dim star of pain, is hurled
But the blind indifference
Of a merciless, unfeeling world
Lying in the burnt out shell
Of some Albanian farm
An old Babushka
Holds a crying baby in her arms
A soldier from the other side
A man of heart and pride
Breaks ranks, lays down his rifle
To kneel by her side
He gives her water
Binds her wounds
And calms the crying child
A touch gives absolution then
Across the great divide
He picks his way back through the broken
China of her life
And there at the curb
The samaritan Serb turns and waves ... goodbye
And each small candle
Lights a corner of the dark
Each small candle
Lights a corner of the dark
Each small candle
lights a corner of the dark
When the wheel of pain stops turning
And the branding iron stops burning
When the children can be children
When the desperados weaken
When the tide rolls into greet them
And the natural law of science
Greets the humble and the mighty
And the billion candles burning
Lights the dark side of every human mind
Each small candle
Each small candle
Each small candles lights the dark side of every human mind
And each small candle
Lights a corner of the dark
- Roger Waters - Each Small Candle -
(This song is not on any album and has only been performed live for his audiences.)
no more war
this is a tear jerker..on one level
and a beauti9ful young man with no bitterness
how many of us could have that attitude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCHS6geSs-k
Quote from: sky otter on May 28, 2012, 03:20:10 AM
no more war
this is a tear jerker..on one level
and a beauti9ful young man with no bitterness
how many of us could have that attitude
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCHS6geSs-k
that is very touching. what a trooper
Wish I dared to watch - but every time I watch vids, they hitch and jerk thought the whole - and then My whole computer hitches and slows down. Dam' Flash virus.
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 28, 2012, 01:05:11 PM
Wish I dared to watch - but every time I watch vids, they hitch and jerk thought the whole - and then My whole computer hitches and slows down. Dam' Flash virus.
he and his brother were adopted from iraq ? i think by, well i'm not sure if she was a brit or american or what.. they are missing arms and such. he sang, "imagine" by john lennon. has a good voice. but makes a good point.
our leaders should just sit down and play video games with each other instead of actually sending real people out to really kill each other. one guy said that celery is a good peace maker and that if the united nations members were required to eat it before they made any decisions, the world would be alot more peaceful. lol guess it has alot b vitamins.
Though Our leaders indeed would do better for Us if They played vid games and all... War is a BIG profit-maker, and depop enhancer. For these reasons, They will continue. Just imagine though... What if everyOne under Them refused to go to war... That would be awesome.
Ever consider that perhaps WE are in a video world designed by something else and that THEY are letting us fight THEIR wars? Linda
Surely the idea of "life as video game" has occurred to Me. In fact, I give it fair probability. But perhaps that is not what You had in mind...?
Like We are just pawn creations, used while some "higher" entities play a game on this planet, as opposed to all of Us playing a game though Our lives here.
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 28, 2012, 03:04:30 PM
Surely the idea of "life as video game" has occurred to Me. In fact, I give it fair probability. But perhaps that is not what You had in mind...?
Like We are just pawn creations, used while some "higher" entities play a game on this planet, as opposed to all of Us playing a game though Our lives here.
No more games for the PTB!
Lets get back to basics, then folks, and pass go, collect 200 dollars, and start kicking some evil arse!
Oh BTW anyone remember Monopoly?
LOL!
Le
Monopoly
hummmmm
isn't that what they thought they had on intell.. (http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/untitl28.jpg)
We're all over it, Dave... Like flies on (literal) sh*t. [smile]
Quote from: Amaterasu on May 28, 2012, 03:55:49 PM
We're all over it, Dave... Like flies on (literal) sh*t. [smile]
Hey, dont smack me, its me, Littlenkiiiiiiiiiiiii..........
:D
Quote from: Linda Brown on May 28, 2012, 02:55:18 PM
Ever consider that perhaps WE are in a video world designed by something else and that THEY are letting us fight THEIR wars? Linda
no but it's possible that it's something similar to that. i don't really think people do evil things because they are evil. in fact, i don't think we are necessarily even aware of it being positive or negative while in the process of the activity. as a result, when i say someone is doing good things or evil things, i don't necessarily believe it is them doing it, of their own volition, which is what you were saying remote viewing encounters may be about. but you think it's all tech related, whereas i'm not so sure. i do think, however, that is linked to our dna somehow.
in effect, i don't think "evil" in the biblical sense or otherwise, is a self-aware, conscious activity. even when the person thinks it's their idea, the evidence seems to suggest otherwise, after the fact. as a result, it is somewhat similar to the video game concept in that if it were true, and we are all behaving in a certain fashion without even realizing why or of what end results, that would be text book mind control.
p.s. that's not to say that we don't at certain points, make our own choices and these choices determine who or what will be controlling us, but just the opportunity to make our own choices to one degree or another, appears to be a special arrangement, where we're given the opportunity to choose one path or another and after that, the path we've chosen dictates the rest of our activity and responses.
i think occassionally our own natural instincts or medical problems surface, and when that happens, we may behave uncharacteristically from our normal state of mind control. i don't think that's a signal that we've veered off on to another path nor that we're somehow suddenly aware, but rather something else is going on that we're unaware of until the necessity for the behavior is revealed. these changes in behavior are studied by psychology and psychiatry, in an attempt to categorize the phenomenon but if it isn't literally related to sickness or disease, the likelihood that they will discover the answer is slim to none because they are looking for natural explanations in a world that is not entirely natural.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on May 28, 2012, 12:26:22 AM
AHhhhh that came out wrong! The 911 forum over there (ATS) is where the 3 letter jibe came from
and i can't stand the bickering. YES i know we have some of the best members on this forum who are in the agency's and DOD etc. (hobbit er menworth fricking hill AND irton moor!! come on!really?!!) i can go on but i wont. MY BAD. a slip of the tongue, no offence meant.
should of thought that one out a little. :-[ i'll get me coat....
Could anyone translate this post for Me please????
It's Menwith fricking hill if I remember correctly.
Working on American bases always was confusing though( they don't talk English)
hobbit
Quote from: hobbit on May 29, 2012, 07:51:51 AM
Could anyone translate this post for Me please????
It's Menwith fricking hill if I remember correctly.
Working on American bases always was confusing though( they don't talk English)
hobbit
Did you ever work at Rendelsham, Hobbit? They spoke pleiadean there, I believe.
Menwith hill? had a friend who worked here...very hush hush! 8)
Ive had views of the irton Moor area, and its quite rainy there, eh?
And as far a speaking English, well, we yanks dont do well, and thats why the font setting on my laptop offers british english or just plain english! :o
Is it spanish spanish, or mexican spanish?
Is it portuguese portuguese, or brazilian portuguese?
etc. etc.
Le
Littlenki,
Ever made the connection about location, location, location across TIME????
http://earthworks-m.blogspot.co.uk/2009/11/of-hags-worms-hollow-hills-and-meteors.html
Then again....I am a hobbit who crawled out of a hole in the ground....and thought WTF ,when seeing this present mess.
hobbit
Interesting blog, Hobbit, Ill have a read through today!
For location, well, there is no location just another part of the same.
My foot is a distant planet to my ear, and thusforth is quite amazed by it's counterpart if ever to meet, although in my less than flexible state thatll never happen!
I guess it's a fact of life that we have all "locations" within us, eh?
I wondered why some speak differently sometimes, and realized it is because of the place they are situated and how the indigenous words were created to describe what their surroundings were.
I also wonder why some speak loudly and others softly, is it a result of their "location", too?
In middle Earth, you learned the necessary language for your "location", although not many understand it, as Hobbit speak is a special form of communication.
That hole you crawled out of was your Tower of Babel.
Im glad I learned Hobbit speak from you early, over at the stonehead's house!LOL!
Cheers!
Littleenki
Hobbit I refer to this post.so the spelling may be wrong?
Quote from: hobbit on February 04, 2012, 10:52:45 AM
As someone who has worked at both menwith hill and Irton moor.
I am someone who has never owned a mobile phone.
hobbit
Hey hobbit both menworth hill & irton moor eh, there only spitting distance from me! I'm in beetween both sites & know them quite well.
Care to elaborate a little on your time there? I do understand if you can't talk pal. My uncle was a radar techi at RAF fylingdales in the 60s to 80s out near Whitby there. Interesting job you had/have.
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