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Title: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 04, 2012, 11:55:46 PM
WTH? I guess Canada & Great Britain will be added to the list of terrorist nations???  :o  ::)  ;D

QuoteThe Committee concluded that a huge number of fake electronic parts being used in the production of military aircraft, night vision devices, radio stations and GPS navigation modules pose a serious threat to national security.
Among others, the use of counterfeit electronic parts has been proven on the Alenia C-27J Spartan medium-sized military transport aircraft, Boeing's P-8A Poseidon long-range surveillance and reconnaissance aircraft, Lockheed Martin's turboprop military transport aircraft C-130J Super Hercules and Sikorsky's SH-60B Seahawk helicopter used by the US Navy.
About 70 per cent of the fake electronic microchips were traced as being produced in China; the rest came from Canada and Great Britain.

http://www.rt.com/news/us-air-force-counterfeit-electronics-879/ (http://www.rt.com/news/us-air-force-counterfeit-electronics-879/)

Is the U.S. that trusted that even their allies have to keep tabs on them?   ::)
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Amaterasu on June 05, 2012, 05:09:20 AM
Keep Your enemies closer...?  If I was Them, *I* would want to keep tabs on US!
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 05, 2012, 05:30:40 AM
i dunno sometimes i think it's all just a big disinfo thing, such as the insistence that americans are obese and lazy.  i was just watching that video made in, i think it was baltic ocean?  those guys weren't amercians, were all middle aged, and only one of out of maybe 5 or more, wasn't fat.  it just happens when you get older, unless you're starving.  your metabolism slows down and your health begins to steadily decline.  to suggest that's an american only trait and to encourage that viewpoint by harping on it ourselves, is falling right into the pattern of brain washing the media uses against the ordinary every day people, and the not so ordinary as well.   this is just more of that.  they don't let this stuff out into the public unless there's a public relations, social engineering reason. 

i think it's just more obvious because we have a huge population of baby boomers right now, in their middle age years.  they're probably trying to figure out how to get people to go along with the idea of not paying back the social security they promised the baby boomers, who paid into the program, which was then raided and spent on who knows what.  and now that they've spent all our social security retirement  funds and raided everyone's retirement cds, they are working on making sure they don't have to support several million baby boomers they charged social security taxes too.  so now we're all lazy good for nothings, apparently.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 05, 2012, 05:57:06 AM
p.s. and it isn't americans that are doing this to americans. it's international.  they've had our military going around the world, fighting their battles, and then accusing us of being worthless, fat and lazy, in the press, out of the other side of their mouths.   

methinks it's a lead up to, as i've said before, excuses to kill alot of americans (cause they owe us alot of money and man power hours) and have the world praise them for it.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 05, 2012, 02:24:31 PM
As a mechanic for years, I observed the parts as they came apart from cars and trucks, and almost always there was the ubiquitous "made in Canada" sticker on them.

Our chips arent any better, just easier to verify, and in this world of businesses that cut quality to make an extra buck, what did they expect?

You cant build any device or machine anymore without using parts from other countries, so were outta luck!

Unless of course, we decide to start using all of our unemployed folks to build a new industry, and become self sufficient again. And the rich PTB would have to allow the downtrodden to have a say in society, and that would go against their doctrine.

I believe if we were to seceed to some degree from the rest of the world, the temporary suffering would be worth it in the long run, and I hate to use an American company to make this point but....

If you buy something from Walmart, chances are it will break or fail within a year.

Heck, we are a disposable society anyways, so why not make everything we have crappy and cheap, so the big shots make a buck, and the consumer get the shaft.

Go ahead soccer moms, throw it away and buy another, it's the American way! Well it didnt used to be. And it doesnt have to be.

When you want something done right, youve got to do it yourself is the analogy, I guess.

Ok folks bring the disagreements, as debate is healthy, and please dont stick up for Walmart as your words will fall on deaf ears.
Le
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 05, 2012, 04:26:14 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on June 05, 2012, 02:24:31 PM
Unless of course, we decide to start using all of our unemployed folks to build a new industry, and become self sufficient again. And the rich PTB would have to allow the downtrodden to have a say in society, and that would go against their doctrine.

LOL reminds me of this clip from Carry on up the Khyber with all these elites pretending it's all good and there is no worries even aas the world is falling apart at their feet.  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxX7YW_97QU


QuoteI believe if we were to seceed to some degree from the rest of the world, the temporary suffering would be worth it in the long run, and I hate to use an American company to make this point but....

If you buy something from Walmart, chances are it will break or fail within a year.

Heck, we are a disposable society anyways, so why not make everything we have crappy and cheap, so the big shots make a buck, and the consumer get the shaft.

Go ahead soccer moms, throw it away and buy another, it's the American way! Well it didnt used to be. And it doesnt have to be.

When you want something done right, youve got to do it yourself is the analogy, I guess.

Ok folks bring the disagreements, as debate is healthy, and please dont stick up for Walmart as your words will fall on deaf ears.
Le

It seems the trend shifted away from quality as at some point someone realized that if the products did not last so long and there was a demand then it didn't matter if it broke after a year as the manufacturer had anticipated you would return to buy replacement...they double their profit form your returning every year. They don't seem to realize they could sell one 2x as good for 2x the money and still break even. That is not greedy enough. Money drives this society until someone changes the economic model of the planet we are headed for self destruction.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 05, 2012, 05:53:32 PM
Right on Ellirium! Our business leaders have sold their soul for a buck or two more, and what really irks me is when these products take a dump, they end up in a landfill, polluting the aquifers with a cocktail of chemicals and pcbs to knock a drunk on their arse.

It started with the baby boomers, and their slash and burn mentality, and has carried through to the yuppies, who hold their supposed right to waste and hog the environment on high. And god forbid we point out the overpopulaters, they know who they are!

Trojans for everyone!

Not to mention the desire for a new car every few years most folks possess, and I use the word possess with firmness, as look at the number of cars to people...almost one to one nowadays.
I guess we will have to hit rock bottom and watch the wasters and energy hogs suffer the blow, while we have to figure out what to do with their piles of useless crap they leave after they die in two weeks due to their iphone service not being available! Ouch!
Le
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 01:02:02 AM
sigh, back to the stereotyping, eh LE?  and here we were getting along so well.

i am a baby boomer, as is my husband.  neither of us own, nor have we ever owned, iphones, ipads or laptops.  we do have a cellphone, and then only because my husband's brother got it for him so they could use that call for free feature of one of the cellphone providers (et. al, they did it because normal long distance phone calls are too expensive and his bro doesn't have access to a pc on a regular enough basis). 

  i recycle.  i use herbs to heal my family, where possible.  i homeschooled all 3 children.  one is a vegetarian.  all 3 are karate experts, particularly the oldest who is a sensei in Okinawan goju ryu.  one plays the cello.  i play 12 string guitar, clarinet, piano, and some skill with the harmonica.

we share one vehicle between 4 of us, while my oldest son and his wife, have their own vehicle and their own cellphone. this is because they were married and lived in another state and needed to be able to keep in touch, again using call for free, cellphone features.  they have since moved in with us because the economy effected his job.

we are not rich, we are not greedy, we are not polluters, and we are not a good 80% of the other negative stereotypes pasted on americans or christians in particular, these days.

when we became christians we inherited via osmosis or something, the bad behavior of other human beings who called themselves christians.   we didn't actually do those things ourselves.  when we were born in america, we inherited via osmosis or something, every negative stereotype pasted on americans.  we didn't actually do or we don't actually do, a good 80% of that stuff ourselves.   you understand that part right? and we aren't alone.  there are millions of americans here who have similar stories.  why are we all being heaped into the same negative pile?  think now.   think think. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE41YPdPuis
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Linda Brown on June 06, 2012, 01:51:27 AM
I have an economic plan for all of those millions of you who shop at Walmart! Its easy to implement.

Simply go on a " matching rule".....everytime you check out in that WalMart line..... match that amount and put it in savings. If you can't afford to do that? Then reduce your shoping to where you can. Its a simple technique. Most of the stuff the gets purchased there is not vital to our existance..... try it. If everyone in the United States did that.... even if it was one day a week... Think of the effect, long term.   Linda
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 02:02:50 AM
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 06, 2012, 01:51:27 AM
I have an economic plan for all of those millions of you who shop at Walmart! Its easy to implement.

Simply go on a " matching rule".....everytime you check out in that WalMart line..... match that amount and put it in savings. If you can't afford to do that? Then reduce your shoping to where you can. Its a simple technique. Most of the stuff the gets purchased there is not vital to our existance..... try it. If everyone in the United States did that.... even if it was one day a week... Think of the effect, long term.   Linda

i don't do the shopping.  hubby does almost everything. he works, pays the bills, does the grocery shopping and cooks the food. i get tired, to the point of being ill, just going to the restaurant.  i can do housework in spurts of no more than 10 minutes.  after that, my internal temperature gauge gets stuck and it takes upwards of 30 minutes to cool off.  i am not indicative of most amercians.  i was in a coma.  it screwed up automated function, like body temperature regulation.  it did short term memory damage. 

hubby is himself, 70% disabled, and still works a full time job to take care of me and our kids, who at this point, don't have much of a future. yet somehow, we are to blame for stuff we never did.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 02:14:34 AM
Quote from: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 01:02:02 AM
sigh, back to the stereotyping, eh LE?  and here we were getting along so well.

i am a baby boomer, as is my husband.  neither of us own, nor have we ever owned, iphones, ipads or laptops.  we do have a cellphone, and then only because my husband's brother got it for him so they could use that call for free feature of one of the cellphone providers (et. al, they did it because normal long distance phone calls are too expensive and his bro doesn't have access to a pc on a regular enough basis). 

  i recycle.  i use herbs to heal my family, where possible.  i homeschooled all 3 children.  one is a vegetarian.  all 3 are karate experts, particularly the oldest who is a sensei in Okinawan goju ryu.  one plays the cello.  i play 12 string guitar, clarinet, piano, and some skill with the harmonica.

we share one vehicle between 4 of us, while my oldest son and his wife, have their own vehicle and their own cellphone. this is because they were married and lived in another state and needed to be able to keep in touch, again using call for free, cellphone features.  they have since moved in with us because the economy effected his job.

we are not rich, we are not greedy, we are not polluters, and we are not a good 80% of the other negative stereotypes pasted on americans or christians in particular, these days.

when we became christians we inherited via osmosis or something, the bad behavior of other human beings who called themselves christians.   we didn't actually do those things ourselves.  when we were born in america, we inherited via osmosis or something, every negative stereotype pasted on americans.  we didn't actually do or we don't actually do, a good 80% of that stuff ourselves.   you understand that part right? and we aren't alone.  there are millions of americans here who have similar stories.  why are we all being heaped into the same negative pile?  think now.   think think. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE41YPdPuis
Well, Undo, with all due respect, you are the exception not the rule.

Too many children not enough resources is the doctrine of most baby boomers, hence the name...baby boomers, and as far as I said, the yuppies had the cell phones and such, not baby boomers.
Sucking on the iphone every minute of every day while ignoring nature and their surroundings. Leaving all the doors open so their kids can run in and out without opening doors every time, wasting electricity because they can afford it. It is clear.

You are a different one for sure, yet make no mistake, the baby boomers started it and the yuppies are perpetuating it.

More mouths means less resources, and thats just irresponsible in any society, ask the Rapanui from Easter Island about running out of food because every man had to have 3 or more children, and where did that lead...yep, overpopulation!

Yuppies? I dont lend much creedence to them as they are typically brainwashed old navy shoppers with no personality or care for resources.

Thank goodness the new generation is adhering to the planet's needs, and trying to have less children and doing more for others.

It's just an observance I have seen for years, and anyone will agree with the fact we have too many people doing too little for the world.
Deadweight is what they are, and when the time comes they will be like the folks running from Godzilla like ants as they dont have a clue to whats going on around them.

No poke towards you, as Ive learned you are special and different, and you know Im right on a lot of this stuff, just that it's hard to say it and not sound negative.

Just an observance, not an opinion.

Cheers!
Littleenki
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Linda Brown on June 06, 2012, 02:19:33 AM
Well, first off .... you have already demonstrated that your family is far from the " ordinary " family. So why should you feel that anyone is blaming you for anything.... when nothing that they think or say applies to you and you know it?

Anybody here blame you? I dont.... but yet.... you take all of these statements on as if they were aimed directly at you. Thats not so!

And why should YOU have to defend those  people who that criticism does apply to? Let them defend themselves! There are sure enough of them!!!! Others who are like you know that all those nasty things don't apply to them.....

I am just pointing that out because I think that you have added that burden to your shoulders which really shouldn't be yours to have to carry. So just throw it down.

Just a thought. Keep it or throw it down too!!!!!  <g>  Linda
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 02:22:50 AM
LE

no, "yuppies" are not the problem either.  that's another stereotype.  generation whatever isn't at fault either.   this is the normal progression of a technological society.    you are the victim of huge propaganda campaign to explain away the reason to not pay back the huge population of baby boomers, the money that was taken from them in the form of "social security taxes" which was meant as a form of "old age insurance".  the international rulers of this country, decided to loot the social security funds of americans, stealing the labor of their entire lives,  and now they don't want to pay it back.  so they declared a propaganda war on us instead.   

sorry but it's the truth.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 02:33:53 AM
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 06, 2012, 02:19:33 AM
Well, first off .... you have already demonstrated that your family is far from the " ordinary " family. So why should you feel that anyone is blaming you for anything.... when nothing that they think or say applies to you and you know it?

Anybody here blame you? I dont.... but yet.... you take all of these statements on as if they were aimed directly at you. Thats not so!

And why should YOU have to defend those  people who that criticism does apply to? Let them defend themselves! There are sure enough of them!!!! Others who are like you know that all those nasty things don't apply to them.....

I am just pointing that out because I think that you have added that burden to your shoulders which really shouldn't be yours to have to carry. So just throw it down.

Just a thought. Keep it or throw it down too!!!!!  <g>  Linda

if one day the international rulers decided people named linda should be villified, you would appreciate me pointing out the very obvious fact that stereotypes are a big stinking pile of bullcrap.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 02:57:41 AM
Quote from: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 02:22:50 AM
LE

no, "yuppies" are not the problem either.  that's another stereotype.  generation whatever isn't at fault either.   this is the normal progression of a technological society.    you are the victim of huge propaganda campaign to explain away the reason to not pay back the huge population of baby boomers, the money that was taken from them in the form of "social security taxes" which was meant as a form of "old age insurance".  the international rulers of this country, decided to loot the social security funds of americans, stealing the labor of their entire lives,  and now they don't want to pay it back.  so they declared a propaganda war on us instead.   

sorry but it's the truth.
They sucked that S.S. money up with weighing down our infrastructure with too many children, Undo.

Bought what they couldnt afford, lived like they werent able to sustain.
A classic case of greed and carelessness that caused them to wallow in their own mistakes.

The companies that did that to them were owned by their peers.
Relying on a pension isnt a way to live, and every concession should be made to hand down a planet better than the last generation had.Even if it means working extra hours to pay the bills, they reap what they sow.

Hard work is key, and respect for nature is number one, so advancing technological society or not, too many people means not enough resources.

And yuppies? plastic self centered folks most of them, who havent a clue as to how to live within their means.
Can you say mortgage crisis for god's sake?
Hummers for Bobby, and Suzy with matching tires?
Give me a break, noone here will argue for yuppies.

Besides, why do you feel a need to stick up for any of them?
Youre not one, you know, youre the other ten percent, who cares and makes an effort.

I give you all the credit you deserve in life for how youve raised your kids and instilled good ethics in them, but if half the rest of the other baby boomers did that wed be ok. They dont.They havent.

I stand by my observations, as my eyes and ears dont lie, so maybe we just agree to disagree once again, Undo, but I never pointed any fingers at you specifically, and your attempt to disprove my observations will be futile, as long a my fingers can type!:D

Give yourself some credit for not being that way, and dont place the blame on propoganda, as thats stereotyping as well, and you yourself said it isnt right to do that. Especially for me, as many tell me, I dont listen! :o

Stereotypes? Nope just definitions with a very high percentage of correctness.

Observations, not opinions.

Hugs for you and yours, I think youre cool no matter what, Undo.

Littleenki
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 04:01:25 AM
nope. the money was used for wars, their wars.  they high jacked our military to fight their wars, so they could then turn around and blame them for.  most of us here can remember the vietnam war and how the vets were treated. they were mandatorily enrolled in the military, and if they didn't leave the country in an awol (federal offense) were sent to war.  same machine that did that to them, is doing that to the whole country now.  and it isn't the military. it's the international rulers.  they run this whole country, the press, the music industry, everything.  everything you see around you is the result of 2 things:  1) technologically advancing society,  and 2) being run by people who have no vested interest in the welfare of the people, only how they can manipulate us to do whatever their next thing is.  and they appear to be operating along the same lines, in the british isles, australia and most of the middle east as well.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 04:10:39 AM
Thats true to a degree, Undo, they are a bunch of scalliwags arent they?

I do have to say that many of those power brokers are of the BB generation though, and a lot of the folks who are the next wave of them are yuppies, but your point is good there.

Leave it to the PTB to get us riled up and look the other way, eh?

I hope Drake was right this time, and they get their comeuppance.

Those Bilderbergs had a nice meeting recently, to hash out our demise, and Alex Jones looked like a man possessed at the gate!
That guy is a wild man!
I wonder if his children are like him? If so they must take a lot of trips to the closet for timeouts! LOL!

What do you think of the so called mass arrests? Will the PTB be the PTW(powers that were)?

Le
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 04:19:28 AM
Quote from: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 04:10:39 AM
Thats true to a degree, Undo, they are a bunch of scalliwags arent they?

I do have to say that many of those power brokers are of the BB generation though, and a lot of the folks who are the next wave of them are yuppies, but your point is good there.

Leave it to the PTB to get us riled up and look the other way, eh?

I hope Drake was right this time, and they get their comeuppance.

Those Bilderbergs had a nice meeting recently, to hash out our demise, and Alex Jones looked like a man possessed at the gate!
That guy is a wild man!
I wonder if his children are like him? If so they must take a lot of trips to the closet for timeouts! LOL!

What do you think of the so called mass arrests? Will the PTB be the PTW(powers that were)?

Le

mass arrests of who?
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 04:30:36 AM
Check this out, it's an interview from David Wilcock of a guy named Drake who is some kind of investigative journalist or such.
Its a pretty eye opening article, but it does have its detractors, so let me know what YOU think!

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1043-massarrests

Cheers!
Le
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Amaterasu on June 06, 2012, 08:47:39 AM
Quote from: Littleenki on June 05, 2012, 05:53:32 PM
Right on Ellirium! Our business leaders have sold their soul for a buck or two more, and what really irks me is when these products take a dump, they end up in a landfill, polluting the aquifers with a cocktail of chemicals and pcbs to knock a drunk on their arse.

It started with the baby boomers, and their slash and burn mentality, and has carried through to the yuppies, who hold their supposed right to waste and hog the environment on high. And god forbid we point out the overpopulaters, they know who they are!

Trojans for everyone!

Not to mention the desire for a new car every few years most folks possess, and I use the word possess with firmness, as look at the number of cars to people...almost one to one nowadays.
I guess we will have to hit rock bottom and watch the wasters and energy hogs suffer the blow, while we have to figure out what to do with their piles of useless crap they leave after they die in two weeks due to their iphone service not being available! Ouch!
Le

I too must jump in and say that overpopulation is a myth.  Period.  It is only a PERCIEVED problem, touted by the PTB as one form of reason to add control - with most of Us constrained to cities because of the grid.

Consider:  If every Human from just born to just hanging on was given 1/4 acre in Australia - which is 4% of land mass EXcluding Antarctica - there would still be a chunk of Australia left over.  And the whole rest of this planet.  (And that's a pretty low population density!)

Consider:  If the volume of all Humans were placed in the grand canyon...it wouldn't fill one side canyon.

Consider:  If every one of Us were placed in the state of Texas, there'd be a fair chunk of Texas left over.

Consider:  Statistically speaking Humans don't exist on this planet.

Consider:  Because We distribute food by profit and not need, supermarkets throw out hundreds of thousands of TONS of food a MONTH!

Consider:  Because We are farming with petro-"ferilizer" and not organically, yield is lower and nutrition is through the floor - if We farmed organically We would have equal or greater yield, and excellent nutrition. http://wakeup-world.com/2012/02/26/30-year-study-organic-farming-outperforms-conventional-chemical-farming/

Consider:  We pay corporate "farmers" to NOT grow food to keep prices artificially high.

Consider:  If We distributed by NEED, farmed organically, and used ALL the land, We could feed 10 times the population here now.

Consider:  With new farming methods, like vertical farming, that could go as high as 100 times Our present population.

Consider:  With floating houses and cities, the volume available to any one Human becomes enormous!

Overpopulation, My tail end.

Sorry.  This get M'goat.  I'm off the soap box, LE.  [hugs]
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 02:18:17 PM
Ya know, Amy, you have every right to hop on that soap box, as we all have differing opinions and ideas!:D

I thought about what Undo said last night, and I think what Im trying to convey is  better called overdensity.
All the points you pose are well put in the context of overdensity, and I feel that it's a more appropriate name for the situation I am thinking of.

Think also of the noise pollution density causes, and thats a big factor in many peoples discomfort in big cities.

Im certain many of today's ills stem from the inability to "get away" from our fellow man for even a minute or two, unless we are locked in our homes.

Maybe if we just spread out a bit into all the open land we have in our own country, things would seem a lot more spacious and pleasant.

Is it possible our attitudes, and disconcertment with our crowded cities and towns is due to density? Is there a chance all the hopelessness we face as a big city dweller, might be cut in half if we had some room to move?

Dont get me wrong, I like having a variety of folks to be a part of, but maybe we need to make a pact with our children to use that other 70 percent of the country for people, and not just prairie dogs and corn. Although I do love prairie dogs and corn! :)

I think of Buckminster Fuller when I read your post, and how everything is expanding and growing in an acceleration, and when you add the word compression to the mix, there's a definite issue with density.

Ill take that land in Australia! Heck a 1/4 acre here in Florida doesnt mean squat, except Ill have to find another place to garden! But in Australia? Id never be home anyways, surfing, hiking, and fishing, what a beautiful place.

Perhaps if we spread out a bit, the human condition could recover from all of these perceived problems, and we could have that abundance we so desire.

Room to think. ???

So, I am very respectful of your input, I will make a change to my definition of why our societies have become what they have, and say that overdensity is probably the best name for it.

Still, I will not shop at Old Navy...I cant stand their commercials!!   LOL!

Have a great day, :)
Littleenki
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Amaterasu on June 06, 2012, 02:44:31 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 02:18:17 PM
Ya know, Amy, you have every right to hop on that soap box, as we all have differing opinions and ideas!:D

I thought about what Undo said last night, and I think what Im trying to convey is  better called overdensity.
All the points you pose are well put in the context of overdensity, and I feel that it's a more appropriate name for the situation I am thinking of.

Think also of the noise pollution density causes, and thats a big factor in many peoples discomfort in big cities.

Im certain many of today's ills stem from the inability to "get away" from our fellow man for even a minute or two, unless we are locked in our homes.

Maybe if we just spread out a bit into all the open land we have in our own country, things would seem a lot more spacious and pleasant.

Is it possible our attitudes, and disconcertment with our crowded cities and towns is due to density? Is there a chance all the hopelessness we face as a big city dweller, might be cut in half if we had some room to move?

Dont get me wrong, I like having a variety of folks to be a part of, but maybe we need to make a pact with our children to use that other 70 percent of the country for people, and not just prairie dogs and corn. Although I do love prairie dogs and corn! :)

I think of Buckminster Fuller when I read your post, and how everything is expanding and growing in an acceleration, and when you add the word compression to the mix, there's a definite issue with density.

Ill take that land in Australia! Heck a 1/4 acre here in Florida doesnt mean squat, except Ill have to find another place to garden! But in Australia? Id never be home anyways, surfing, hiking, and fishing, what a beautiful place.

Perhaps if we spread out a bit, the human condition could recover from all of these perceived problems, and we could have that abundance we so desire.

Room to think. ???

So, I am very respectful of your input, I will make a change to my definition of why our societies have become what they have, and say that overdensity is probably the best name for it.

Still, I will not shop at Old Navy...I cant stand their commercials!!   LOL!

Have a great day, :)
Littleenki

Yes, Dave, I do believe it has very much to do with overcrowding with poverty-ridden individuals.  Or at best, semidesperate People.  People who worry about whether They will have the money for both food AND rent.  People who can't afford to get sick or need a dentist or get into an accident...  People stuck to a wage/debt slavery job attached to a grid.

Just imagine if We had anyigravity homes and could float anywhere We wanted to, never having to worry about getting to work, never having to deal with ANYONE We don't LIKE to spend time with (social superconductance, I call it), being able to spend time, and as MUCH time as We want with those We DO like.

There is plenty on this planet for all of Us.  WAY more than enough.  But because of the resistor that money represents, the energy is sucked from Us and the abundance does not flow. 

And in that resistor of money, the root of all evil grows:  the LOVE of money.  The resistor is the soil for that root.

And by the way...  It's not 30% We're using...  It's more like .00001%.  [smile]
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 03:02:36 PM
some friends of ours had become a member of the host a foreign exchange student program.  they got a student from japan.  i remember him very clearly.  we could barely communicate with him on cultural norms, but otherwise, he was pretty fluent in english.  one of things he was surprised about was the vast tracks of open land he saw along highways and so forth.  in japan, land is in such short supply, they've begun building new land with recycled garbage.   they form islands of recycled trash and terraform it, then build on that.  doesn't hold up so well in earthquakes, apparently, at least, one fellow who lived on one of the artificial islands complained about how much more drastic a tremor was there, than on the real land.

anyway, it was a culture shock for him to see so much empty space not being utilized for anything here in america.  but that wasn't the worst. the worst was when the teenagers of the family who hosted him, treated him to a viewing of beavis and butthead.  he laughed till he cried, asked for a recording of it and took it back to japan as part of his show and tell about his american experience.

yeah.......lol
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 03:23:57 PM
I guess my night of sleeping on it paid off! :) :) :) :)

We have a big country dont we? Why not utilize it with a 100 mile economy if we can, and like Amy says, floating homes that arent attached to the soil....what a great idea and cleaner, too!

Your story Undo, of the Japanese fellow, parallels one of my own, as years ago we met a young man from Tokyo while river rafting in TN, who was travelling on a journey, something like a Jewish youngster does when they reach a certain age, and he was a fascinating kid to talk to.
We stayed up for hours discussing the world and it's issues.

He told me how they sleep in drawers like I saw on Seinfeld, and how people are always up against each other in the city, theres just no getting away.

We let him stay with us  for a few weeks, and it was one of the most eye opening times of my life. When he left, he headed to Washington State to start his masters degree program, and he has since prospered in New Zealand as an environmental engineer.

Yep, 000001% is more like it, I was being conservative!LOL!

I learn so much from you three, Linda, Undo, and Amy, Im so glad I came here to PRC and met you girls!

it does get lonely bantering about with the same old mindsets we men have, and the female angle to anything is typically the most worldly way to approach life.

Another lesson for the LE, and I have no shame in admitting it, as if all of our Male leaders would listen to their ladies, this world would turn on a dime for the better!

Thanks!
Dave
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 03:49:42 PM
Quote from: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 04:30:36 AM
Check this out, it's an interview from David Wilcock of a guy named Drake who is some kind of investigative journalist or such.
Its a pretty eye opening article, but it does have its detractors, so let me know what YOU think!

http://www.divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1043-massarrests

Cheers!
Le

that was an interesting interview.  one of things i noticed was that he avoided saying anything negative about democratic politicians. he also focused most of his negatives on republican presidents of the past.  i also noted that he was saying that the mass arrests, change from debt dollar to equity dollar, and removal of all laws from the books that came from 1800s onward, would restore this country to its original constitutional status. then he proceeds to talk about not having money at all.  he does many similar comments, which i've noticed is how all the big wigs manipulate people.  they tell you the same story with one spin on it, then the same story again, with a totally different spin on it.  and you're supposed to believe it's all the same, even though it's actually not.  i think orwell called that double speak.

list all his comments out on a paper or in a word document. number them then look for examples where his position on the same subject is listed with one version then listed again with a different version. almost as if he thinks he'll get more traction with all parties interested in a change, if he drops some type of ideal that each mindset might find attractive and persuading.  in effect, it sounds like he wants to stage a coup, replacing mostly republican politicians but he wants the support of grass roots people on all sides to do so.  then the government that's formed from that will be "constitutional." 

yet when you read what he thinks constitutional is, you realize that he's basically not describing a constitutional government at all.  it's kinda odd, but i've been noticing alot of the double speak thing, everywhere.  news programs, the bible, music, everywhere.  maybe this is how they get us, by appealing to both sides of our brains or something. 
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Amaterasu on June 06, 2012, 04:13:40 PM
Yeah, I really am unnerved by this whole thing.  I'm so with You, Beth.  And like I said...  I think David is a gatekeeper.  Maybe it's just Me...  But He dropped Me like a hot potato when I showed Him My solution.  No discussion, no questions, no input at all.  POOF.  Gone.

I would think that if He is what He claims, He would at least have questions.  Not necessarily believe it would work, but at least have objections, even.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 04:19:51 PM
the laws of 1800 and later, did things like  set a minimum wage,  equal pay for equal work, equal opportunity employment,  limits of a work week (so they didn't have you mandatorily working 16 hour days (or lose your job), unless you agreed to do so for extra compensation),  safety standards, such as making sure there are sufficient fire escape routes, goggles and ear plugs, lead poisoning testing and other tests related to working with hazardous and toxic substances, women's right to vote, blacks right to vote, child labor laws, restriction on monopolies, end of slavery, no debtor's prisons, regulations on commerce, such as the laws that protected smaller businesses from being pushed out by charging them more money for imports and exports and rail transportation, than larger businesses with the same product,  making it illegal to sell people fake medicines, and etc.

going back before all those laws, would leave us all wide open for massive human rights abuses and financial hardship like you wouldn't believe.  there's no doubt that some laws doth suck, but many are there to protect us from each other.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 04:32:15 PM
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 06, 2012, 04:13:40 PM
Yeah, I really am unnerved by this whole thing.  I'm so with You, Beth.  And like I said...  I think David is a gatekeeper.  Maybe it's just Me...  But He dropped Me like a hot potato when I showed Him My solution.  No discussion, no questions, no input at all.  POOF.  Gone.

I would think that if He is what He claims, He would at least have questions.  Not necessarily believe it would work, but at least have objections, even.
I have seen that indifference in a few others, as David does bounce around and forget where he's been.
I am pissed at him for blowing you off, Amy, and if he really understood your platform he would change his mind  quickly.

Gatekeeper is probably the right word for him, and he's saying come on in, but dont be surprised if you dont like what you find.

I do find him to be a bit full of himself at times, and thats the correlation I made in the first sentence, where he and several others have exhibited this type of mental hubris.

Nassin Haramein.

Edgar Cayce.

Buckminster Fuller.

Giorgio Tsoukalous.

All brilliant in their own right, but definitely aware of their special position in the food chain.

Im sending David an e-mail to see if he will reconsider interviewing you, and as he has answered me on several occasions with lengthy and interesting responses, Im sure he will see it.

You, Amy, have the clearest idea of what it will take to make the bond between our world and our souls right again, and as smart as he thinks he is, you are just as smart if not more, so off I go to Gmail!

Cheers!
Littleenki
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: undo11 on June 06, 2012, 04:42:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2M9i1Wy6IU
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Amaterasu on June 06, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
FYI...  He wanted to interview Me about My experience with My father - not the Abundance Paradigm - and when I mentioned the AP, that's when He vanished, not even answering My email asking if the interview idea was still on.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 06, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 06, 2012, 04:45:10 PM
FYI...  He wanted to interview Me about My experience with My father - not the Abundance Paradigm - and when I mentioned the AP, that's when He vanished, not even answering My email asking if the interview idea was still on.
Ill make sure to point that out, Amy, thanks:D
Le
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Linda Brown on June 06, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
Then he is haunting you for the electrogravitics angle obviously.
You want to see a cold shoulder given? Just wait until he tries coming in my direction!   Linda
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Amaterasu on June 07, 2012, 02:15:13 AM
Quote from: Linda Brown on June 06, 2012, 04:52:59 PM
Then he is haunting you for the electrogravitics angle obviously.
You want to see a cold shoulder given? Just wait until he tries coming in my direction!   Linda

Well, Linda, as You may recall, when He first proposed the idea of an interview, I thought maybe You might be interested, and contacted You.  Might be good that You declined.  Yes, He was working the electrogravitics angle.

I would still interview with Him Myself...but only if the Abundance Paradigm is the focus.  Will speak of My experiences with Dad on a side note.  But given His disappearance, I have to guess He's not interested in a solution.
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 12, 2012, 04:20:32 AM
Canada dismisses U.S. concern over fake military parts

QuoteThe Canadian government is ignoring U.S. warnings that a flood of bogus military parts from China has been discovered in American-made fighter jets, transport planes, missiles and other weapons, potentially putting the lives of Armed Forces personnel at risk.


Quote"At this point in time, other than continuing to be vigilant, we don't have any particular concerns in this country," Fantino tells CBC News.

Fantino's reaction is puzzling defence experts who say the Canadian military has to be equally at risk of bogus parts getting into critical equipment.

They point out Canada buys a majority of its military equipment, spare parts and other gear from the same American defence contractors used by the U.S.  military, many of which are cited in the congressional investigation.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/06/11/pol-weston-china-military-components.html (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/06/11/pol-weston-china-military-components.html)

Apparently we kept the good ones out of the lot and gave them back the duds.  ;D
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 12, 2012, 01:48:28 PM


Apparently we kept the good ones out of the lot and gave them back the duds.  ;D
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hehehe, American capitalism at work, eh? Now we know Canada wont be able to attack us without some glitches! :o
Le
Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Ellirium113 on June 12, 2012, 05:09:53 PM
We'll use the Newfies to invade the US. by the time the Americans figure out wha the hell they just said the war will be over and the beer will be all gone.  ;D

Title: Re: Fake Chips Installed In Military Hardware From CANADA??
Post by: Littleenki on June 12, 2012, 06:21:56 PM
Quote from: Ellirium113 on June 12, 2012, 05:09:53 PM
We'll use the Newfies to invade the US. by the time the Americans figure out wha the hell they just said the war will be over and the beer will be all gone.  ;D
Oh dear, Ellirium, time to start getting rid of the evidence...the beer that is.

I dont know about newfies, but Newkie broons are delightful!
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.com/media/2009/07/newcdraft.jpg)

Now, in Deutsche!

Ziggy Zaggy Ziggy Zaggy hoy, hoy, hoy!!!!

Ein prosit!

Funhf mal biers mein frau!
:) :) :) :) :)
Choos!
Littleenki