Russia Has Just Tested A ICBM (http://de.rian.ru/images/25753/16/257531642.jpg)
From: http://yeoldefalseflag.com/thread-russia-has-just-tested-a-icbm
QuoteTranslation:
Russia has successfully tested an of intercontinental ballistic missile low with nuclear warheads.This was announced by the speaker of the strategic rocket forces of Russia, Colonel Vadim Kowal on Thursday of journalists in Moscow. The rocket of the Topol RS 12 m type (NATO code: SS-25 sickle) took off from the Kapustin Yar launch site in the area of Astrakhan in southern of Russia without problems at 19.39 UTC and set at the given place at the Sary-Schagan test site in the Central Asian Republic of Kazakhstan, it said.First, more no occurred regarding the test.
of: http://de.rian.ru/security_and_military/20120607/263747061.html
Medvedev Goes Ballistic: Russian missiles in West's backyard? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OI5CWfwxcJQ
QuoteResponding to Washington's failure to bring Russia on board the European missile defense system, President Dmitry Medvedev announces sweeping plans to address what Moscow deems to be a threat to national security.
Cold War Phase II
Russia may target US missile defense sites
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRU6IVYiT2o
Russia Threatens to Target U.S. Missile Shield - Obama, Neocons bent on starting WW3 nuclear war
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsd5rfJeqBk
Russia warns US.....WW3 COMING SOON
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQqfvefwVc8
"China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War" Major General Zhang Zhaozhong QuoteOn November 21st, America, UK and Canada
announced more sanctions against Iran. France also proposed to adopt new sanctions to force Tehran to stop it's nuclear project. On Nov 23rd, the spokesman of Chinese Communist Party
(CCP)'s Foreign Ministry said in a regular press conference held in Beijing that China is opposed to unilateral sanctions against Iran.
Scholars believe that, being isolated, China and Iran need mutual support. Meanwhile, the CCP government, with internal and external difficulties, may express an even tougher diplomatic "voice".
"Reuters" reported on Nov 23rd: "The United States, UK and Canada have announced new sanctions against Iran in the areas of energy and finance. France proposed 'unprecedented' new sanctions, including freezing the assets of the Central Bank of Iran and suspending the purchase of Iran's oil.
Earlier, the "International Atomic Energy Agency" (IAEA) had issued a report that Iran may be secretly developing nuclear weapons.
On Nov 23rd, the CCP's Foreign Ministry expressed opposition to the imposition of unilateral sanctions against Iran.
In this regard, Xia Ming, a political professor from "City University of New York" in America, believes that since the Cold War, the United States and Western society's biggest challenges have been seen as being from China and Iran. They are both isolated by the United States and the West. Therefore, China's policy is foreseeable.
Xia Ming says: "China and Iran are facing strong Western challenges within politics, economy and culture. So these two countries basically have a kind of coordination on the international stage, to support each other. So we can see that China and Iran coordinate a lot, with a lot of cooperation in matters of energy, arms and so on."
"Associated Press" also reported on Nov 23rd: "Since 2006, the United Nations have carried out 4 rounds of sanctions against Iran. But with export of energy, Iran has not been severely
affected by the sanctions."
"AFP" said: "China supports Iran and purchases large quantities of oil from Iran. Meanwhile, China is Iran's biggest trading partner Their bilateral trade totals up to $ 30 billion.
"Voice of America" reported, according to Chinese customs' data, this year (2011) Iran could become China's second largest crude oil supplier.
However, Iran disdains the new round of sanctions. Israel and Washington said in the event that other efforts were not effective, the possibility of military action would not be ruled out.
It's puzzling to some that Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, a professor from the Chinese National Defense University, said China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War.
Professor Xia Ming: "Zhang Zhaozhong said that not hesitating to fight a third world war would be entirely for domestic political needs. To some extent though, this would be completely
ridiculous to encourage"
Professor Xia Ming pointed out that the United States and Western societies may deal with Iran by a method of "Jasmine Revolution", similar to what happened in Libya. From the perspective of the Libya model, NATO could not possibly involve itself in large-scale military action, and it would be impossible to start a new war.
In fact, a senior European diplomat with anonymity in Tehran said that the Iranian government was actually very worried about a military strike. Analysts also say that ordinary people don't worship their leaders so much any more.
But Professor Xia Ming said that the CCP regime itself is facing a much bigger crisis than Iran.
The CCP regime not only faces challenges from Southeast Asia, the South China Sea, South Asia countries and so on, but also faces the pressure from America for the RMB exchange rate, export, and human rights issues, as well as the pressure of domestic issues meanwhile.
Professor Xia Ming says : "China is facing pressure from America. Meanwhile, current domestic pressure is also very considerable. In particular, we can see in civil society, the challenge to the Chinese government and resistance forces are growing. Therefore, the Chinese government is indeed facing the arrival of a big power shift in the 18th session. So, China may express a tougher diplomatic voice. On the one hand, it is a reaction to pressure from America. On the other hand, it needs to meet the demand of domestic nationalist groups.
Russia is another ally of Iran, with similar policy to that of China. Toward Iran.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPjxeyG-Ztw
Saber-rattling as Russia meets NATO in Sochi(http://www.dw.de/image/0,,4072455_4,00.jpg)
QuoteAs a Russia-NATO summit begins in Sochi, Moscow has threatened to beef up its European forces, if talks between the alliance and the Kremlin fail to resolve sticky missile defense issues.
Missiles superimposed over a Russian and US flag
Russia's NATO ambassador, Dmitri Rogozin, referring to alliance plans to erect a missile defense system in eastern Europe, said Moscow views the West's intentions as a direct threat to the homeland.
"This is the red line, which we must not and will not abandon. No Russian leader can ever question the strategic potential of Russia or reduce it to zero," Rogozin said.
NATO has been planning the system - to be deployed in Poland and the Czech Republic - as a way to protect the continent against missiles from rogue Middle Eastern states.
Moscow, however, argues that the system could too easily be used to target its own missiles and is dangerously close to its territory.
Saber-rattling as Russia meets NATO (http://www.dw.de/dw/article/0,,15208600,00.html)
Time to get out the really BIG guns :D
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_zlg1jrQujJk/Rt5dEL4eZHI/AAAAAAAAALE/vSLVb6UkiVM/s400/really+big+gun.JPG)
Oh, and all the petty machismo goes on. Yup. They're doing it for show before They launch into WWIII as planned amongst Them.
And We get to stand by and weep.
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 08, 2012, 12:47:32 AM
And We get to stand by and weep.
Well I live right in the middle of Nellis, Tonopah, Area 51, Edward, Nine Palms and a bucket load of other top military installations :D Its gonna be interesting
But we do have the beam weapons control shack here at Indians Springs :P
It just breaks My heart that We are pawns at best in this depop horror They are constructing. May We succeed before They do.
After the Bilderberg meeting that took place in Virginia last week where Alex Jones suggest the world elites are planning our futures...
This is another video by him that refers to what the Globalists have planned for us.
Its being suggested the start maybe that the London Olympics may see 13,000 deaths... followed by other gradual deliberate setups to kill of more of the population...and may give us 10 or 15 years before he believes that there will be mass killings..be it from Nukes, wars or virus / vaccines...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6JwIs-mwo8&feature=plcp
They now claims to have come across past Bilderberg data from their 1966 agenda
Seems unbelievable that he seems to know so much..and is able to expose so much and still survive..one has to question at times is he working for some of them and telling us to our face....or is he really a true hero to the masses.
I've asked Myself the same question, astro. I have tried five times now to join the infowars forum, writing and even calling - and I am ignored, and not approved. I get the impression They too (along with Alpha Tango Spookz) don't want solutions...
Hi Amaturasu,
I have not as yet tried to join his forum, but it is of interest what you have said...and It does seem strange if you have not been able to join.
As much as I have valued and respected A.J for what he appears to be doing for us all over the last few years...ie exposing what he claims is really going on...
A.J to me is very clever at what he does overall...he puts things over quite well and seems overall very quick to understand things.
But There are times when I wonder if there may be more to it...
Like is he a type of double agent..secretly working for the NWO....but at the same time appearing totally or as straight up as we would believe.
Maybe I am going through a paronoid spell...
For most It may be almost impossible to tell...and when you look at the Top elites in the Secret service military M16 etc at the top, there are spies double agents etc that even they find it hard to tell who is legit...
It will be interesting to see what happens for anyone trying to sign up to his forum...and how long it takes to be accepted etc.
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I've asked Myself the same question, astro. I have tried five times now to join the infowars forum, writing and even calling - and I am ignored, and not approved. I get the impression They too (along with Alpha Tango Spookz) don't want solutions...
I'm pretty sure that, like David Wilcock, He is a gatekeeper. Rile the People up - but give Them no solution. It's interesting that these both are People One would think would embrace My solution - and both have kept Their distance, even though I have given it to one personally and offered it to the other through the website.
Odd, don't You think?
It is hard to say,
But my thoughts are from my life experience so far...not as much as some....if someone does come along with an ideal solution which you may well have, there will always someone who it will effect in a negative way to their present livelihood...and change is often if not nearly always slow.
Also many of these people may not be science related or top thinkers.
or it could just be they need more time to consider it.
A.J no doubt will be making a good living from his own business...and his business as bad as it seems relies on bad news..
Bad news for A.J sells his services be it for real or hoax.
I would HOPE however that he is for real and not someone working on behalf of the NWO...
ICBM... so they say
Does it not strike you all as odd that they have had those things since the coldwar days, and made threats to use them ... and they say this is an ICBM test now?.
Probability testing doesn't point to it being so.
Higher probability score is for it being a heavy-lift test
But just what is the "heavy" thing.
that's the interesting part
arc
Or...
They are testing old stockpiles that have been sitting unattended for years
Here is one area, blacked out by Google Earth
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Base/Hump_002.png)
Had a Russian 'agent' take some photos for me :D
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Base/Base01.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Base/Base03.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Base/Base05.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Base/Base09.jpg)
:o Nobody home... just missiles sitting in tubes waiting for a rainy day
Quote from: arc on June 08, 2012, 04:09:32 AM
ICBM... so they say
Does it not strike you all as odd that they have had those things since the coldwar days, and made threats to use them ... and they say this is an ICBM test now?.
Probability testing doesn't point to it being so.
Higher probability score is for it being a heavy-lift test
But just what is the "heavy" thing.
that's the interesting part
arc
Hey, arc, whatever the heavy lift item is, it certainly is not in our wheelhouse.
The Russians, sad to say, have been ahead of us with tech for a long time, and just couldnt get the dependability down pat.
I would guess that any heavy lift project they employ would be in place of the obsolete ISS, and they dont want our pathetic government to control any decisions they make.
So, the Russians get the jump on us again, and whatever they sent up this time, might not be so friendly as in the 60's.
Bad news anyway we look at it!
Le
QuoteHey, arc, whatever the heavy lift item is, it certainly is not in our wheelhouse.
What makes you think that, L'enki? We've sent up some mysterious heavy lifters of our own in the recent past.
rose
Back in the old days, when we started our secret astronaut program... we scrubbed a space station called MOL... Seem that the Russians however flew their version "Almaz" (Diamond) into 1974
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YNfBHnMtFoA/TkWqRfMN5gI/AAAAAAAAAdk/dkFEyJu8i2s/s640/almaz.jpg)
This was the Almaz launch vehicle
(http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets_1/East_Europe_2/Proton/Gallery/alm_15.jpg)
In Russian but it sure was a heavy lifter :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4S0CanRPQ
Book Titled "High Frontier"
Subtitle "There is a defense against Nuclear War"
by General Daniel O.Graham
Former Deputy Director of the CIA
It was written in 1983, published by Tom Doherty Associates,Inc.
8-10 West 36th Street, New York, New York, 10018
On the first page is a quote by Congressman Newt Gingrich which I shall type out below, but which may hint at what this Secret Space Station's possible usage may be.
By Newt Gingrich
" . . . He who Controls Space may well control the future of Mankind. We have a chance, through High Frontier, using existing technology to develop a space program that is absolutely necessary to our survival and that will give us a chance to move past the Russians to assure our own nation and freedom a future on this planet"
So according to Newt, the Russians were still ahead of us in 1983 :P
Quote from: astr0144 on June 08, 2012, 03:12:16 AM
It is hard to say,
But my thoughts are from my life experience so far...not as much as some....if someone does come along with an ideal solution which you may well have, there will always someone who it will effect in a negative way to their present livelihood...and change is often if not nearly always slow.
Also many of these people may not be science related or top thinkers.
or it could just be they need more time to consider it.
A.J no doubt will be making a good living from his own business...and his business as bad as it seems relies on bad news..
Bad news for A.J sells his services be it for real or hoax.
I would HOPE however that he is for real and not someone working on behalf of the NWO...
I agree that some may feel it is better to have hundreds of millions starving, billions being threatened by war, to have no change. But if these two are that concerned, and knowing Their MATERIAL "wealth" will not deteriorate, You'd think They would embrace a solution like Mine...
Quote from: astr0144 on June 08, 2012, 02:41:01 AM
Hi Amaturasu,
I have not as yet tried to join his forum, but it is of interest what you have said...and It does seem strange if you have not been able to join.
As much as I have valued and respected A.J for what he appears to be doing for us all over the last few years...ie exposing what he claims is really going on...
A.J to me is very clever at what he does overall...he puts things over quite well and seems overall very quick to understand things.
But There are times when I wonder if there may be more to it...
Like is he a type of double agent..secretly working for the NWO....but at the same time appearing totally or as straight up as we would believe.
Maybe I am going through a paronoid spell...
For most It may be almost impossible to tell...and when you look at the Top elites in the Secret service military M16 etc at the top, there are spies double agents etc that even they find it hard to tell who is legit...
It will be interesting to see what happens for anyone trying to sign up to his forum...and how long it takes to be accepted etc.
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I've asked Myself the same question, astro. I have tried five times now to join the infowars forum, writing and even calling - and I am ignored, and not approved. I get the impression They too (along with Alpha Tango Spookz) don't want solutions...
I am a member of Planet Infowars Forum.....didn't have any problems joining.
Your not missing much at the moment anyway... it's chaos....people just organize their own groups..there are no forums at the moment...very much a work in progress...loads of spammers....but it has gone from 10,000 to 17,000 members in a week
Cosmic..
Well, C4L, I have applied. Waited. Written. Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name. Signed up again. Waited. Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name. Signed up again. Waited. Wrote. Wrote again. Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name. Signed up again. Waited. Wrote and then called, leaving a message on the machine. Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name. Signed up again. Been waiting... Haven't checked. Given up.
Now is that weird or what?
Amaterasu,
As one gets older, the more one finds certain things in life hard to accept or believe...and many things do not make sense or seem to reason along the lines of ones logic...
If we live long enough and become aware...we will witness that the majority of the population have little power as individuals...
Its the strong, rich or Clever Elites that rule and make decisions.
And although there are or have been ideal solutions throughout history to change life for the better for all...Those at the top will not want the masses to live without being under their control to some degree... OR at least that's the way that I see things since I believe that I discovered what really goes on.
No doubt if we didn't have to worry about the expenses involved just to survive and live..food, fuel, shelter.. Life would be so much better...
I do believe it is possible to alter things, its just that there are so many factors that would need to change within the elites, that it does not seem as if its possible to change quickly within a few years...
Having said that the discovery of Electricity changed the world severely and so has the computer and the internet...
Now the Internet offers the possibility to get ones message spread around quicker than most things at the moment while it is not being controlled....The Television offers the same , but is often controlled. On the Internet now... you can actually set up your own TV program very cheaply...then all you have to do is market it to the masses and presently you have little government interference. BUT unfortunately this may not last for long IF Obama gets his way as he wants to bring in internet control.
As I have not as yet tried to sign up to the forum , I don't know fully what their process is. From what you have said it is not automatic acceptance.
Do they require ones full details ?
IF NOT can you try signing up as someone else to see if you get accepted.
Initially do not mention anything about your true agendas..
just try and get accepted...Then work on promoting your suggestions, ideas and agendas.
Quote from: Amaterasu on June 08, 2012, 07:54:49 AM
Well, C4L, I have applied. Waited. Written. Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name. Signed up again. Waited. Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name. Signed up again. Waited. Wrote. Wrote again. Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name. Signed up again. Waited. Wrote and then called, leaving a message on the machine. Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name. Signed up again. Been waiting... Haven't checked. Given up.
Now is that weird or what?
Quote...that will give us a chance to move past the Russians to assure our own nation and freedom a future on this planet"
So according to Newt, the Russians were still ahead of us in 1983
Not necessarily, Zorgon.
If one 'moves past' another, that only means that the other is left behind. The pair could have been neck and neck prior. Remember that in 1983, Cold war rhetoric still flowered, and "Beating the Russians" was the given justification for every single requested defense program.
Here is one video that is said to have captured the object in flight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9TlyroKp_E&feature=youtu.be
The odd spiral at the end reminds me of film I saw last year, taken off the coast of Norway, leading me to believe that this is something tested and filmed before.
rose.
::)
UFO widely seen in Middle East skies, linked to Russian missile test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iqifhg8NU8A
A video posted to YouTube on Thursday shows the kind of space spiral usually associated with a missile launch.
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By Alan Boyle
Follow @b0yle
A swirling spiral of light seen in the skies over Israel, Syria and other Middle East countries on Thursday night has been linked to a Russian intercontinental ballistic missile test.
Hundreds of Israelis jammed police hotlines with reports of the unidentified flying object, according to Ynetnews. Sighting reports came from Lebanon and even Armenia and Turkey. Versions of the video, captioned in Arabic, began appearing on YouTube.
Some of the reports that popped up on Twitter suggested that the lights in the sky were seen as a good omen for Syria's revolution. Others worried that it was a bad omen for Syria, potentially signaling the use of chemical weapons
The actual explanation is almost certainly more mundane: The Voice of Russia reported that the country's Strategic Missile Forces conducted a test of the Topol ICBM from the Kapustin Yar firing range near Astrakhan in southern Russia on Thursday. Such a launch could theoretically be seen from areas of the Middle East and the Caucasus.
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Citing a report from RIA Novosti, the radio service said the missile "accurately hit its target" in a Kazakh firing range. However, Ynetnews quoted Yigal Pat-El, chairman of the Israel Astronomical Association, as saying the missile "most likely spun out of control, and its remnants and the fuel was what people saw."
The video was reminiscent of other "space spirals" that occur when rocket stages release burning fuel as they spin. One such spiral was sighted over Norway in 2009, and turned out to be caused by a failed ballistic missile test. In that case, the missile that went awry was a Bulava ICBM, launched from a submarine in the White Sea.
Another spiral was sighted in Russia the following night and captured on video. That one was caused by a Topol missile test, but the test was reported as a success. At the time, NBC News space analyst James Oberg said he had indications that the Topol's "third-stage spin is a 'feature,' not a malfunction, and may be associated with guidance, or decoy deploy, or enhancing hardness against U.S. boost-phase antimissile weapons."
listed links below at this link
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/08/12114090-ufo-widely-seen-in-middle-east-skies-linked-to-russian-missile-test?lite
Other rocket-related UFO sightings:
•December 2009: Another 'UFO' from Russia
•January 2010: Did missile test spark Chinese UFO sightings?
•June 2010: 'UFO' over Australia was likely caused by SpaceX rocket
Quote from: rose on June 08, 2012, 05:07:27 PM
The odd spiral at the end reminds me of film I saw last year, taken off the coast of Norway, leading me to believe that this is something tested and filmed before.
Yes the Norway spiral was also a missile test. Usually you will see a spiral when the test or launch failed... and the rocket is spiraling out of control.
It amazes me these days how many people, especially the news media, keep calling rocket launches UFO's
The one in China that closed the airport a few years ago? Well that was a RADAR only sighting that concerned the trffic control tower. There was no visual sighting. So since no picture is boring the media used a Russian Soyuz launch that was orbiting a Meridian satellite as the "UFO" Since few people know what rockets look like, this "UFO" went viral on YT
It's actually a very beautiful capture... but its NOT a UFO. You can see when the second stage separates and fires
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnszlJC8iGs
Quote from: sky otter on June 08, 2012, 07:43:08 PM
Other rocket-related UFO sightings:
•December 2009: Another 'UFO' from Russia
That would be THIS one... it too went viral :P People were saying 4 UFO's destroyed the missile :o
(the four UFO's are really the four boosters dropping off at stage separation. The visual effect is known as the "Korolev Cross")
Progress M-03M (35) Lift Off from Baikonur to the ISS (HD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5ojFrnu7UU
Launch of Glonass-K1 on 2011-02-26 (amateur video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQzja1WpZPc
An update on GLONASS:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS
Whats probably more interesting to us all is that Garmin is now using GLONASS in some of there GPS Device's. Yeah that GARMIN :P
QuoteGPS and GLONASS satellites for faster positioning
https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-trail/handhelds/etrex-30/prod87774.html