Russia Has Just Tested A ICBM

[zorgon]

Or...

They are testing old stockpiles that have been sitting unattended for years

Here is one area, blacked out by Google Earth



Had a Russian 'agent' take some photos for me









Nobody home... just missiles sitting in tubes waiting for a rainy day

[Littleenki]

ICBM... so they say
Does it not strike you all as odd that they have had those  things since the coldwar days, and made threats to use them ...  and they say this is an ICBM test now?.   

Probability testing doesn't point to it being so.
Higher probability score is for it being a heavy-lift test
But just what is the "heavy" thing.
that's the interesting part


arc

Hey, arc, whatever the heavy lift item is, it certainly is not in our wheelhouse.
The Russians, sad to say, have been ahead of us with tech for a long time, and just couldnt get the dependability down pat.

I would guess that any heavy lift project they employ would be in place of the obsolete ISS, and they dont want our pathetic government to control any decisions they make.

So, the Russians get the jump on us again, and whatever they sent up this time, might not be so friendly as in the 60's.

Bad news anyway we look at it!
Le

[rose]

Hey, arc, whatever the heavy lift item is, it certainly is not in our wheelhouse.

What makes you think that, L'enki? We've sent up some mysterious heavy lifters of our own in the recent past.

rose

[zorgon]

Back in the old days, when we started our secret astronaut program... we scrubbed a space station called MOL... Seem that the Russians however flew their version "Almaz" (Diamond) into 1974



This was the Almaz launch vehicle



In Russian but it sure was a heavy lifter



Book Titled "High Frontier"
Subtitle "There is a defense against Nuclear War"

by General Daniel O.Graham
Former Deputy Director of the CIA

It was written in 1983, published by Tom Doherty Associates,Inc.
8-10 West 36th Street, New York, New York, 10018

On the first page is a quote by Congressman Newt Gingrich which I shall type out below, but which may hint at what this Secret Space Station's possible usage may be.

By Newt Gingrich
" . . . He who Controls Space may well control the future of Mankind. We have a chance, through High Frontier, using existing technology to develop a space program that is absolutely necessary to our survival and that will give us a chance to move past the Russians to assure our own nation and freedom a future on this planet"

So according to Newt, the Russians were still ahead of us in 1983

[Amaterasu]

It is hard to say,

But my thoughts are from my life experience so far...not as much as some....if someone does come along with an ideal solution which you may well have, there will always someone who it will effect in a negative way to their present livelihood...and change is often if not nearly always slow.

Also many of these people may not be science related or top thinkers.
or it could just be they need more time to consider it.

A.J no doubt will be making a good living from his own business...and his business as bad as it seems relies on bad news..

Bad news for A.J sells his services be it for real or hoax.

I would HOPE however that he is for real and not someone working on behalf of the NWO...

I agree that some may feel it is better to have hundreds of millions starving, billions being threatened by war, to have no change.  But if these two are that concerned, and knowing Their MATERIAL "wealth" will not deteriorate, You'd think They would embrace a solution like Mine...

[Cosmic4life]

Hi Amaturasu,

I have not as yet tried to join his forum, but it is of interest what you have said...and It does seem strange if you have not been able to join.

As much as I have valued and respected A.J for what he appears to be doing for us all over the last few years...ie exposing what he claims is really going on...

A.J to me is very clever at what he does overall...he puts things over quite well and seems overall very quick to understand things.

But There are times when I wonder if there may be more to it...

Like is he a type of double agent..secretly working for the NWO....but at the same time appearing totally or as straight up as  we would believe.

Maybe I am going through a paronoid spell...

For most It may be almost impossible to tell...and when you look at the Top elites in the Secret service military M16 etc at the top, there are spies double agents etc that even they find it hard to tell who is legit...

It will be interesting to see what happens for anyone trying to sign up to his forum...and how long it takes to be accepted etc.


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I've asked Myself the same question, astro.  I have tried five times now to join the infowars forum, writing and even calling - and I am ignored, and not approved.  I get the impression They too (along with Alpha Tango Spookz) don't want solutions...

I am a member of Planet Infowars Forum.....didn't have any problems joining.

Your not missing much at the moment anyway... it's chaos....people just organize their own groups..there are no forums at the moment...very much a work in progress...loads of spammers....but it has gone from 10,000 to 17,000 members in a week

Cosmic..

[Amaterasu]

Well, C4L, I have applied.  Waited.  Written.  Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name.  Signed up again.  Waited.  Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name.  Signed up again.  Waited.  Wrote.  Wrote again.  Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name.  Signed up again.  Waited.  Wrote and then called, leaving a message on the machine.  Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name.  Signed up again.  Been waiting...  Haven't checked.  Given up.

Now is that weird or what?

[astr0144]

Amaterasu,

As one gets older, the more one finds certain things in life hard to accept or believe...and many things do not make sense or seem to reason along the lines of ones logic...

If we live long enough and become aware...we will witness that the majority of the population have little power as individuals...
Its the strong, rich or Clever Elites that rule and make decisions.

And although there are or have been ideal solutions throughout history to change life for the better for all...Those at the top will not want the masses to live without being under their control to some degree...  OR at least that's the way that I see things since I believe that I discovered what really goes on.

No doubt if we didn't have to worry about the expenses involved just to survive and live..food, fuel, shelter.. Life would be so much better...

I do believe it is possible to alter things, its just that there are so many factors that would need to change within the elites, that it does not seem as if its possible to change quickly within a few years...

Having said that the discovery of Electricity changed the world severely and so has the computer and the internet...

Now the Internet offers the possibility to get ones message spread around quicker than most things at the moment while it is not being controlled....The Television offers the same , but is often controlled.  On the Internet now... you can actually set up your own TV program very cheaply...then all you have to do is market it to the masses and presently you have little government interference. BUT unfortunately this may not last for long IF Obama gets his way as he wants to bring in internet control.

As I have not as yet tried to sign up to the forum , I don't know fully what their process is. From what you have said it is not automatic acceptance.

Do they require ones full details ?

IF NOT can you try signing up as someone else to see if you get accepted.

Initially do not mention anything about your true agendas..

just try and get accepted...Then work on promoting your suggestions, ideas and agendas.

Well, C4L, I have applied.  Waited.  Written.  Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name.  Signed up again.  Waited.  Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name.  Signed up again.  Waited.  Wrote.  Wrote again.  Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name.  Signed up again.  Waited.  Wrote and then called, leaving a message on the machine.  Discovered I was no longer "awaiting approval" and there was no user by My user name.  Signed up again.  Been waiting...  Haven't checked.  Given up.

Now is that weird or what?

[rose]

...that will give us a chance to move past the Russians to assure our own nation and freedom a future on this planet"

So according to Newt, the Russians were still ahead of us in 1983

Not necessarily, Zorgon.

If one 'moves past' another, that only means that the other is left behind. The pair could have been neck and neck prior.  Remember that in 1983, Cold war rhetoric still flowered, and  "Beating the Russians" was the given justification for every single requested defense program.


Here is one video that is said to have captured the object in flight. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9TlyroKp_E&feature=youtu.be

The odd spiral at the end reminds me of film I saw last year, taken off the coast of Norway, leading me to believe that this is something tested and filmed before.

rose.

[sky otter]

UFO widely seen in Middle East skies, linked to Russian missile test



A video posted to YouTube on Thursday shows the kind of space spiral usually associated with a missile launch.

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By Alan Boyle

Follow @b0yle

A swirling spiral of light seen in the skies over Israel, Syria and other Middle East countries on Thursday night has been linked to a Russian intercontinental ballistic missile test.

Hundreds of Israelis jammed police hotlines with reports of the unidentified flying object, according to Ynetnews. Sighting reports came from Lebanon and even Armenia and Turkey. Versions of the video, captioned in Arabic, began appearing on YouTube.

Some of the reports that popped up on Twitter suggested that the lights in the sky were seen as a good omen for Syria's revolution. Others worried that it was a bad omen for Syria, potentially signaling the use of chemical weapons

The actual explanation is almost certainly more mundane: The Voice of Russia reported that the country's Strategic Missile Forces conducted a test of the Topol ICBM from the Kapustin Yar firing range near Astrakhan in southern Russia on Thursday. Such a launch could theoretically be seen from areas of the Middle East and the Caucasus.


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Citing a report from RIA Novosti, the radio service said the missile "accurately hit its target" in a Kazakh firing range. However, Ynetnews quoted Yigal Pat-El, chairman of the Israel Astronomical Association, as saying the missile "most likely spun out of control, and its remnants and the fuel was what people saw."


The video was reminiscent of other "space spirals" that occur when rocket stages release burning fuel as they spin. One such spiral was sighted over Norway in 2009, and turned out to be caused by a failed ballistic missile test. In that case, the missile that went awry was a Bulava ICBM, launched from a submarine in the White Sea.



 
Another spiral was sighted in Russia the following night and captured on video. That one was caused by a Topol missile test, but the test was reported as a success. At the time, NBC News space analyst James Oberg said he had indications that the Topol's "third-stage spin is a 'feature,' not a malfunction, and may be associated with guidance, or decoy deploy, or enhancing hardness against U.S. boost-phase antimissile weapons."

listed links below at this link
http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/06/08/12114090-ufo-widely-seen-in-middle-east-skies-linked-to-russian-missile-test?lite


Other rocket-related UFO sightings:

•December 2009: Another 'UFO' from Russia
•January 2010: Did missile test spark Chinese UFO sightings?
•June 2010: 'UFO' over Australia was likely caused by SpaceX rocket

[zorgon]

The odd spiral at the end reminds me of film I saw last year, taken off the coast of Norway, leading me to believe that this is something tested and filmed before.

Yes the Norway spiral was also a missile test.  Usually you will see a spiral when the test or launch failed... and the rocket is spiraling out of control.

It amazes me these days how many people, especially the news media, keep calling rocket launches UFO's

The one in China that closed the airport a few years ago? Well that was a RADAR only sighting that concerned the trffic control tower. There was no visual sighting. So since no picture is boring the media used a Russian Soyuz launch that was orbiting a Meridian satellite as the "UFO"  Since few people know what rockets look like, this "UFO" went viral on YT

It's actually a very beautiful capture... but its NOT a UFO.  You can see when the second stage separates and fires

[zorgon]

Other rocket-related UFO sightings:

•December 2009: Another 'UFO' from Russia

That would be THIS one... it too went viral   People were saying 4 UFO's destroyed the missile 

(the four UFO's are really the four boosters dropping off at stage separation. The visual effect is known as the "Korolev Cross")

Progress M-03M (35) Lift Off from Baikonur to the ISS (HD)

[zorgon]

Launch of Glonass-K1 on 2011-02-26 (amateur video)

[Somamech]

An update on GLONASS:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS

Whats probably more interesting to us all is that Garmin is now using GLONASS in some of there GPS Device's.  Yeah that GARMIN

GPS and GLONASS satellites for faster positioning

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https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/on-the-trail/handhelds/etrex-30/prod87774.html