I've been trying to follow alll the info on the net concerning the moon and it's many mysteries for only a few years. I grew up during the moon race in the sixties and most of my science fair projects were about the solar system (cut in half pingpong balls guled to a poster board) to the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo missions. But until I found John Lear's 'The Living Moon' site and Joseph Skipper's 'Mars Anomaly Research' site, I just found the info out there severely 'lacking' and full of junk. These two sites opened a new world of info for me.
What peaked my interest was not so much what I saw but what I didn't see. Some of the photos and objects that are pointed out seem nothing more than rock formations and shadow effects. The objects that are deliberately blurred or a later released verison, completely gone are the ones that bring it home for me.
I'm a 3d modeler by trade. I create 3d models from 2d engineering drawings, bascially turning a flat drawing into a working 3d model. Sometimes if the drawings are very old and haven't been updated to show improvement a site, I rely on an operator at a site to take photos of the actual conditions and I use that to create a 3d model. I'm very good at interpreting distances and visualizing objects in 3 dimensions. I would love to get my hands on some 'quality' photos of objects on the moon and turn them into 3d models. I'm going to try this with some photos that I'll pick out and see if I can give them some 'structure'. I'll have to get some time at work to do this because all my modeling software is on my 'government' computer ::). Wish me luck. ;)
It looks as though your skills could come in handy. 8)
One I'd like to see modelled in 3D is below. I have also linked to the thread, where there are more images and, so you can take a look if you haven't already. The resolution isn't perfect for 3D modelling but that's what you get with Moon pictures unfortunately.
Despite some opinions on the image, I can't help getting a sense of construction or technology. I could be wrong of course but it would be good to see what you can come up with.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Moon7/Schoteri/schroterizoom.jpg)
Thread: http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=96.0
See your Personal messages. ;)
Thanks Pimander, check your msg's. I've seen this one before and I agree with you it does appear to have some 'intelligent structure' to it. I think I'll give it a try and I'll let you know what I come up with. 8)
Hey Sarge welcome! I was without web for awhile at home to welcome you and others here, so there goes ;)
I'm well and truly a believer of the solar system being filled with abundant life, but whilst saying so I am not the one to have good pics. I will leave that to some of the many experts here that have spent eons poking nasa with a tarred brush so to speak :D
Make sure to save to >>> .stl :P
Quote from: Somamech on November 06, 2011, 04:32:04 PM
Hey Sarge welcome! I was without web for awhile at home to welcome you and others here, so there goes ;)
I'm well and truly a believer of the solar system being filled with abundant life, but whilst saying so I am not the one to have good pics. I will leave that to some of the many experts here that have spent eons poking nasa with a tarred brush so to speak :D
Make sure to save to >>> .stl :P
Thanks Somamech, I too believe that life exists in abundant amounts. What form and level of envolement by humans is up for debate. I've come to the 'show' kind of late and I find myself finding something that I think is incredible, but wait it's been out there for years.....Oh well better late than never. ;D
Ok, here is my feeble attempt at modeling what I see on Schroteri...
I downloaded MR129635733RE from the LROC site. I then cropped it to make it a little easier to handle.
In the first video, I simply laid it out on a plain and rotated it around at 360 deg. with a 3d orbit rotation to get a different perspective that you see in a top-down view. I think the different angles gives a new 'look' to the object and I was especially drawn to the shadows in these different perspectives.
In the second video, I placed random 3d shapes on top of the object. Using the light source and the shadows being produced by them to determine what I think the shapes look like. This is subjective because the more I studied it, the more I could see different shapes than the ones I chose. I then rotated the object as I did in the first video. As you can see, and in my opinion, these are not rocks rolling down a hill.
I would welcome any comments, suggestions on what I've done, good or bad. Peace
video-1
http://youtu.be/DhqIoqiNRw8?hd=1 (http://youtu.be/DhqIoqiNRw8?hd=1)
video-2
http://youtu.be/MTDo2inZEfY?hd=1 (http://youtu.be/MTDo2inZEfY?hd=1)
Hi Sarge, welcome!
I am new here too, so we are birds of a feather! :)
Your vids are good!
Could i suggest that the cylindrical shapes in your reconstruction be more like those in the picture. Those in the picture are hollow and have a cylindrical base topped by a conical sectional shape.
Best guess at what they are is habs for Moon missions. The cone shaped object (or pyramidal) could possibly be a wide-band antenna, along the lines of Tesla's creations. Wide-band for the necessity of voice, video and data transmission to and from the moon.
Keep up the good work. ;)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 12, 2011, 04:42:26 PM
... As you can see, and in my opinion, these are not rocks rolling down a hill.
I would welcome any comments, suggestions on what I've done, good or bad. Peace
First, congratulations for your great work. 8)
Seeing the videos I got the impression that they are complex structures that could be artificial. Im very impressed with the second video, which despite having some interpretation, to me its pretty clear that they are not stones rolling down a cliff. ;)
Thanks for the hard work Sgt.Rocknroll :)
gee guys
not knowing the scale
to me it looks like a moon buggy that was leaving a track and lost a wheel
cool thing you did with thoses vids, though sgt.
This is good stuff Sarge. You're on the same page as me with this.
See PM.
QuoteI'll have to get some time at work to do this because all my modeling software is on my 'government' computer ::). Wish me luck. ;)
:o Working on Moon conspiracy on your 'government' computer? WOW That is almost as bad as that fellow at NASA JSC complaining about the music on my website when he was looking over the site at work :P
Nice work on that video....
I want you to have a look at Jacks work... in particular an Apollo 15 photo. All his work on that is here
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/01archives/apollo15.htm
This image...AS15-94-12741HR (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a15/AS15-94-12741HR.jpg)
These areas...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/01archives/apollo15_files/leftnorm.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/01archives/apollo15_files/rightnorm.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/01archives/apollo15_files/compare3.jpg)
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/01archives/apollo15_files/module_compare.jpg)
In the big picture you will see a lobate area... this appears to have been a result of land moving recently. Jack actually put in a request to LRO satellite to view that area in detail. He gave 'geological interests' as the reason. What we were looking for is if any rocks had been disturbed in the area
We found plenty... This is the Tsiolkowsky Crater area on Farside, the spot were John and Norm Bergrun think the big spacecraft is buried :D (I will do a thread on that later)
Now also consider this from NASA....
NEWS BRIEF: NASA's Deep Space Habitat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-S4yR6S5M
Looking at Jacks work from the older Apollo images, and now your model of Scoterii I see a similarity :D
Quotegee guys
not knowing the scale
to me it looks like a moon buggy that was leaving a track and lost a wheel
Well we know the scale, the object is from an image strip with a resolution of 0.6m per pixel.
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/8233/schroteriscale.jpg)
I think this might be related - if this thing is articial, that is:
The schroteri anomaly if not rocks is probably a ULRV (a big one).
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/4408/ulrv.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/31/ulrv.jpg/)
15 mb pdf: http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19790072311_1979072311.pdf
*This is a good read.
And you might also want to check out this, as it is also related: http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4214/app3c.html
And also, here are some pictures of lunar vehicles that you guy can go through and try to find a match:
http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servlet/view/search/where/Marshall+Space+Flight+Center+%28MSFC%29?q=+Apollo&os=400&pgs=50&sort=Title%252CDate
An example of something like what the schroteri anomaly could be:
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9761/dualmoderover.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/856/dualmoderover.jpg/)
Living on the Moon: Inflatable Habitat Research - NASA
http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/208744main_fs-2007-11-01-jsc.pdf
ILC Dover's Inflatable Habitat Survives 250 Days in the Antarctic (http://www.prlog.org/10116528-ilc-dovers-inflatable-habitat-survives-250-days-in-the-antarctic.html)
(http://www.prlog.org/10116528-inflatable-habitat.jpg)
NASA develops inflatable lunar habitat
(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/03/nasa_inflatable.jpg)
(http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/100713_moon_habitat_1.grid-6x2.jpg)
This NASA illustration shows a moon base concept that uses both fixed and inflatable habitat elements to support astronauts living on the lunar surface.
Everyone is going inflatables LOL Even Robert Bigelow's new space station
(http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Photos/070222/070222_Bigelow_hmed_1p.jpg)
I'm definitely leaning more and more in the direction that this feature is "artificial".
Quote from: exuberant1 on November 13, 2011, 11:19:05 AM
I think this might be related - if this thing is articial, that is:
The schroteri anomaly if not rocks is probably a ULRV (a big one).
My 2 doubts about this being a ULRV are:
- The "tracks" just don't look like tracks from a normal wheeled vehicle.
- It must be at least 17m (56 feet) long. Surely it must be more than a rover if it's that size.
If it is an installation then we still have no explanation for the tracks, unless something "rolled" in.
1) The tracks are probably not made by wheels. If this is artificial, then it got there by landing using rockets, and that is probably what made the track.
2) Check out this test rover - it is big:
http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servlet/detail/nasaNAS~9~9~59140~162985?sort=Title%252CDate
*And it could be rocks. The whole rolling uphill idea doesn't work when you consider that this feature might be the source for the rocks along the path.
My first post since we have gotten back up and running, I am pleased to see all of our contributor's and what they have to bring to the table. And a big "Thanks Zorgon!" Glad too be back back on the consortium.
The "Moon Anomaly's" Has always peaked my interests. I do have a few Pictures that would require further examples of the OP's expertise. the first is a Artist's rendition that may or may not help lend credence to the over all debate:
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/_42389326_moonbase_plan2_416.gif)
And though these seem to be abandoned structures, they truly have angular symmetry for such accurate right angled anomaly's:
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/laonmoon1.jpg)
I have an archive of moon anomaly's available scrutiny, but I will reserve the desire to post them all at once right now.
So, what do you make of these representation's for structural feasibility?
"I'm so glad to be reconnected guy's!!" ;D
Thanks guys for all the replies. I knew that there were other articles on Schroteri and other moon anomalities but I particulary didn't want to influence my work after looking at others stuff. I wanted to take a fresh look sort of as in 'this is what I see' kind of thing. Anyway this has really wet my juices and to Zorgon, I started work on my government computer but quickly switched it to my home after I acquired some of the software I needed...whew off the hook.. ;)
Anyway as I said, on the Schroteri work that this was my 'feeble' first atempt and it certainly won't be my last. I need to do a lot of homework on all the great work that people have put in before me...Hooah ;D
thanks for the pic of the buggy E1...to me that fit the outline that i could see
do you guys go with any of this stuff that is in this article? obviously i am not up to snuff as you all seem to be and i wasn't aware the russians had buggy's on the moon.....i am a beginner at the moon stuff so please forgive my naivety on some things ???
here's the article
(http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/lunokh10.jpg)
http://blogs.sundaymercury.net/weirdscience/2010/04/another-soviet-moon-buggy-spot.html
Another Soviet moon buggy spotted
By Daniel Smith on Apr 29, 10 10:00 AM
A long-lost Soviet moon buggy - which went MIA in the early 1970s - has been found on the moon by a NASA satellite.
Lunokhod 1 landed in the Mare Imbrium aboard the Luna 17 lander in 1970 and rolled around on the Moon's surface for 11 months before it gave up the ghost.
Powered by solar/nuclear energy, the rover was happily going about its business while NASA was landing Apollo 14 and 15.
The Lunokhod carried a French-made reflector unit, intended to help with measurements of the moon and its orbit, which should have meant that the defunct rover could be easily located from Earth.
However the Soviet operators had only a sketchy notion where their craft actually was at any given time and in fact since Lunokhod 1 went off-line nobody has known exactly where it finished up.
The reflector doesn't perform well enough for Earthly astronomers to pick up sunlight from it, and the alternative technique - beaming a laser from Earth at the rover and looking for the reflected light - requires that one have a fairly close idea where it is in order to aim the laser.
(http://i45.servimg.com/u/f45/13/55/53/83/lunokh11.jpg)
Salvation came last month, when NASA released a tranche of detailed orbital photos of the Mare Imbrium, taken by its new Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) satellite as it made repeated passes just 30 miles above the surface.
With these, it was possible to finally get a decent idea where the lost Lunokhod and its parent lander were.
Using the 3.5m telescope at Apache Point in New Mexico, scientists were able at last to get a laser reflection back from the missing moon-prowler, getting its range to within a centimetre.
Lunokhod 1's successor, Lunokhod 2 - nowadays the property of wealthy game developer and space tourist Richard Garriott - was also recently relocated with the aid of LRO photographs.
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Nice work Sarge 8)
I was considering how it would be possible to use your skills along with remote viewers to enable the creation of an STL file. ;)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 13, 2011, 01:28:45 PM
Anyway this has really wet my juices and to Zorgon, I started work on my government computer but quickly switched it to my home after I acquired some of the software I needed...whew off the hook.. ;)
Well that is good news... we want the MIB's to stay on our side :P (so far so good :P )
As to the work, a fresh look is a good idea... and we have always encourages, even pushed, people to do their own studies.
One mod at ATS was a skeptic... he just couldn't see what John and I saw in the Copernicus image. He saw like most see... just blurry rocks...
The problem on Copernicus is SCALE. Until you wrap your mind around the scale, you won't see it. Then one day he saw one image... and HE saw it. Once that happened he saw the rest and even found new ones.
I also firmly believe that some people are not meant to see... but that is the topic of another thread :P
I will add your videos to the library thread on this crater, but will hold off till your later work. :D
There were so many thing's that I found when I investigated these allegation's of the moon anomaly's, I have literally seen hundreds of picture's and there were a few that really stood out as "Obvious" intelligent structure's that are very unlikely to be produced in such an environment that the moon support's.
Here's a wide view shot of another anomaly that would beg to be called anything but a "Layout" Moon base station. Though I can't validate and/or verify my assumption's are factual, there is little left for explanation than that it was put there by intelligence, not coincidence.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/Anomily%20on%20the%20moon/layotuisee.jpg)
here are some color filtered picture's that are truly remarkable as for there location and obvious structure types which seem to be identical to each other.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/normal_APOLLO201520AS2015-91-124-2.jpg)
Then there is thing's like the Lunar Castle, though dubbed a hoax, there is no juror that has an absolute answer to this anomaly.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/Castlemoon11.jpg)
There is another lunar anomaly that merits some question as well. It has been dubbed "The Bridge" and if one takes this photo into fine detail, the details are astounding.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/bridge11.jpg)
Here is one that is dubbed "The Obelisk" it has 2 different resolution's to bring out the detail, but it is quite fascinating.
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i246/Allred5923/obileskonthemoon.jpg)
I have some more of these incredible displays of unusual placement, articulated designed (Seemingly) and always thought provoking impracticalities of these being formed by nothing more than time and natural circumstance.
Two new vid's I made about the 'disk' on Lo5-126-h2a. I really need hi-res photos because I'm old and can't see crap sometimes. I was naturally drawn to the disk, but what also caught my eye was the structure just to the left of the disk, seemingly floating in air. It has to be elevated because of the shadow its in, or it could be a tall structure coming out of the valley floor. If you look closely you'll find that the two objects are close to the same size. I went with that they are part of the same structure or they're connected in some way or were connected and as a mechanical operation, moved apart. Anyway this is what I came up with. As always, let me know you're thoughts. Peace 8)
vid 1
http://youtu.be/oSYPpiDpRc4
vid 2
http://youtu.be/ApSmRqhjPkQ
I want to apologize for the last picture that I had posted. It was a hurried post and it is larger than I remembered. But, what you are seeing is a side by side of the image and then too the left, it is out lined as to what "I see" in the details of this anomaly.
It looks as though it is a complete complex with all the amenities that would be required to an actual occupied facility.
It is a fascinating sight, I was absolutely mesmerized by the details when I inverted the colors and started doing an inch by inch visual of this particular landscape photo.
I know you say you would like to see thing's with "New Eyes" but if it were not for other people pointing out certain thing's whilst researching such remarkable evidence it may have went unnoticed.
If you need a reduced Picture of the posted one, just let me know and I will forward the complete formatted layout for you.
Thanks 1Worldwatcher, if you could give me the file names of those pics, I'll try and find a hi-res version and take a look at what you're talking about. 8)
Something new...just playing around...
http://youtu.be/u2RPRQIlYC8 (http://youtu.be/u2RPRQIlYC8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 05, 2011, 01:42:30 PM
I've been trying to follow alll the info on the net concerning the moon and it's many mysteries for only a few years. I grew up during the moon race in the sixties and most of my science fair projects were about the solar system (cut in half pingpong balls guled to a poster board) to the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo missions. But until I found John Lear's 'The Living Moon' site and Joseph Skipper's 'Mars Anomaly Research' site, I just found the info out there severely 'lacking' and full of junk. These two sites opened a new world of info for me.
What peaked my interest was not so much what I saw but what I didn't see. Some of the photos and objects that are pointed out seem nothing more than rock formations and shadow effects. The objects that are deliberately blurred or a later released verison, completely gone are the ones that bring it home for me.
I'm a 3d modeler by trade. I create 3d models from 2d engineering drawings, bascially turning a flat drawing into a working 3d model. Sometimes if the drawings are very old and haven't been updated to show improvement a site, I rely on an operator at a site to take photos of the actual conditions and I use that to create a 3d model. I'm very good at interpreting distances and visualizing objects in 3 dimensions. I would love to get my hands on some 'quality' photos of objects on the moon and turn them into 3d models. I'm going to try this with some photos that I'll pick out and see if I can give them some 'structure'. I'll have to get some time at work to do this because all my modeling software is on my 'government' computer ::). Wish me luck. ;)
Hello Rocky,
Any chance you could work on these 2 photos? The first is a spaceport on the farside.
The second is something in the crater Aristarchus taken with a 10" scope.
Thanks.
<img src="http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8476/farsideterm172westcontr.png" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>By <a target="_new" href="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/johnlear">johnlear</a> at 2011-06-08
<img src="http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4396/aristarchuse.png" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>By <a target="_new" href="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/johnlear">johnlear</a> at 2011-04-05
Thanks John for the reply..
The pics are kinda of blurry, but I'll give it a shot... 8)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 28, 2011, 05:49:31 PM
Thanks John for the reply..
The pics are kinda of blurry, but I'll give it a shot... 8)
OK thanks. Anything would be a great help.
all the best.
gotta luv the enthusiasm!
:-*
Sgt.Rock is doing quite a good job ! Sgt. have you seen the A.Sturm job ?
That could be a very good base for you ... he really discovered strange things !
Allan images are on The Living Moon site.
Some can be found till now here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A1karO0tx0
It's an E Book made by Allan before he left the Moon :)
Ok here is my interpretation of why I see on John's picture of the 'spaceport' on the moon's far side. The picture was kind of blurry and I had a hard time trying to visualize and interpret what I was looking at. I used just some simple 3d shapes and modeled what I see.
As always, comments & suggestions are welcomed. Peace 8)
http://youtu.be/7rhkCp28G7w (http://youtu.be/7rhkCp28G7w)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on December 02, 2011, 04:13:05 PM
http://youtu.be/7rhkCp28G7w (http://youtu.be/7rhkCp28G7w)
Perfect.
Awesome job. :)
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on December 02, 2011, 04:13:05 PM
Ok here is my interpretation of why I see on John's picture of the 'spaceport' on the moon's far side. The picture was kind of blurry and I had a hard time trying to visualize and interpret what I was looking at. I used just some simple 3d shapes and modeled what I see.
As always, comments & suggestions are welcomed. Peace 8)
http://youtu.be/7rhkCp28G7w (http://youtu.be/7rhkCp28G7w)
Wow, you know your way into 3D! Its very clear, amazing.
Aristarchus Crater
this was difficult because of the condition of the crater with the 'blue' effect and the condition that most pic's have it. I tried modeling both. It's difficult to model on a pic that's taken at an angle and try an produce a 3d model. Well anyway here it is, not much. I'll give it another try later.
Peace 8)
http://youtu.be/sFVXHPSBrNw (http://youtu.be/sFVXHPSBrNw)
Hey Folks,
Often it has been said by those who implicitly trust NASA that any lunar anomalies from the old Lunar Orbiter probes or Apollo orbital images would also be visible in the new LRO imagery.
With that in mind I would like to demonstrate how easily it is to remove images from the new lro images.
I have chosen a feature near Marius A and removed it from the image data. This feature is over 110 metres across. Nearly 10 000 square metres of lunar surface have been replaced:
(http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6337/marus1.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/marus1.jpg/)
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9058/marus2.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/521/marus2.jpg/)
This took a senior citizen with no photoshop experience less than three minutes to do. I used the maximum resolution available on the viewer and if I wanted to I could have altered the exif data to delete my tracks - that would have taken an extra minute.
Imagine what a pro is capable of.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on December 03, 2011, 07:17:48 PM
Aristarchus Crater
this was difficult because of the condition of the crater with the 'blue' effect and the condition that most pic's have it. I tried modeling both. It's difficult to model on a pic that's taken at an angle and try an produce a 3d model. Well anyway here it is, not much. I'll give it another try later.
Peace 8)
http://youtu.be/sFVXHPSBrNw (http://youtu.be/sFVXHPSBrNw)
Ok, I'm not the best at explaining my thoughts sometimes so here goes with another 'enhanced' version of Aritarchus Crater model. I've spruced up the reactor a little to make it resemble a fusion reactor. Not much but enough so it appears more than a few blocks.
I used the pic on the right to model because of the top-down view, just to get a general feel for the dimensions of the crater. I then moved the
model over to the pic on the left and used my imagination to rotated it a little like the pic. The first one I did assumed the reactor would be on the crater floor, this one I envisioned the reactor above the crater with a shaft dropping down into the crater. Anyway I'm having fun.
Peace 8)
http://youtu.be/ngV9WDcJe-o (http://youtu.be/ngV9WDcJe-o)
Great job, Sgt ! Bravo !
Would you plse do the same with A.Sturm " Ulos ", as said before ?
Y'll find there some amazing pics to work on ...
All the best !
Guérande
@Sergent R&R : I'll give you a proper link asap, but you can find Allan Sturm
on the ancient Living Moon site.
See you later, tks
Guerande
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on November 05, 2011, 01:42:30 PM
I'm a 3d modeler by trade. I create 3d models from 2d engineering drawings, bascially turning a flat drawing into a working 3d model. Sometimes if the drawings are very old and haven't been updated to show improvement a site, I rely on an operator at a site to take photos of the actual conditions and I use that to create a 3d model. I'm very good at interpreting distances and visualizing objects in 3 dimensions. I would love to get my hands on some 'quality' photos of objects on the moon and turn them into 3d models. I'm going to try this with some photos that I'll pick out and see if I can give them some 'structure'. I'll have to get some time at work to do this because all my modeling software is on my 'government' computer ::). Wish me luck. ;)
So with modern(even older) military computer technology it wouldnt even be a trick for NASA to make a real-looking model of the moon and make certain things disappear, then presenting it to people as real moon images. And maybe even make few "anomalies" there to mess with the anomaly searchers?
I remember one thread here where there is a photo where NASA employee holds a moon photo in he's hands and people spotted in this photo a moon anomaly. And NASA came with an explanation where the employee holds a photo of a moon, but it is a 3D model of a moon. So, not a real moon!
Something to think about..
WW
Quote from: WeekendWarrior on August 12, 2012, 10:20:45 PM
So with modern(even older) military computer technology it wouldnt even be a trick for NASA to make a real-looking model of the moon and make certain things disappear, then presenting it to people as real moon images. And maybe even make few "anomalies" there to mess with the anomaly searchers?
Awww come on now... NASA would never even CONSIDER doing that... I mean without computers and air brushing they would have to do that by hand... imagine the work
So stop being silly :D NASA didn't air brush anything :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality_files/08a9f120.jpe)
It was all done by REGULAR paint brush :P
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality_files/08ba0120.jpe)
And a little plaster of Paris and calipers to get that depth..
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality_files/08df88b0.jpe)
After all they had those great Lunar Orbiter images to work from..
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality_files/08ff88b0.jpe)
Turn down the lights a bit...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality_files/091f48e0.jpe)
Add some color flood light (THIS is why NASA doesn't want you seeing true color moon photos to compare with...
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality_files/099307c0.jpe)
And don't forget that small spacecraft window... a cardboard cutout will do..
Lights... camera... ACTION
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality_files/098027c0.jpe)
So lets see what it looks like from the LEM....
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/02archives/Apollo_Reality_files/09a1bae0.jpe)
Nah NASA would NEVER consider making a fake Moon mockup and filming it...
::)
People would wonder how Nasa and other Agencys can get away with this so easy.
The Charles Manson case would no doubt be a clue to that conundrum. Once the family are in they don't know how to get out... ALIVE :o
I DO believe we went to the moon. I DO believe NASA has covered up things that they weren't expecting to find and couldn't begin to explain it to the world. So coverup, coverup, coverup.
Quote from: Sgt.Rocknroll on August 13, 2012, 12:21:12 AM
I DO believe we went to the moon. I DO believe NASA has covered up things that they weren't expecting to find and couldn't begin to explain it to the world. So coverup, coverup, coverup.
Well if they didn't go to the moon... then there is no point looking at moon pictures for anomalies :P
Hell Zorg,,,I was thinking '''''ALIENS'''''...LOLOLL
8)
John and I both agree they are on the Moon... its just that APOLLO was a hoax :P
Quote from: zorgon on August 13, 2012, 02:28:11 AM
John and I both agree they are on the Moon... its just that APOLLO was a hoax :P
I don't think it was a hoax. I just think that we were already there an Apollo was for the masses!
Sgt.Rock,that is sweet! nice programme, keep up the good work
i reckon the 1st one is man made, some buggy or wheeled probe
and i'm sure ArMaP put that one to bed?still impressive though ;)
QuoteJohn and I both agree they are on the Moon... its just that APOLLO was a hoax :P
You ain't wrong there Zorgon. :D
Do you know how long the human species has been on the moon ? (the date of the First arrival)