Trying to Believe...

[exuberant1]

1) The tracks are probably not made by wheels. If this is artificial, then it got there by landing using rockets, and that is probably what made the track.

2) Check out this test rover - it is big:

http://www.nasaimages.org/luna/servlet/detail/nasaNAS~9~9~59140~162985?sort=Title%252CDate

*And it could be rocks. The whole rolling uphill idea doesn't work when you consider that this feature might be the source for the rocks along the path.

[1Worldwatcher]

My first post since we have gotten back up and running, I am pleased to see all of our contributor's and what they have to bring to the table.  And a big "Thanks Zorgon!" Glad too be back back on the consortium.

The "Moon Anomaly's" Has always peaked my interests. I do have a few Pictures that would require further examples of the OP's expertise. the first is a Artist's rendition that may or may not help lend credence to the over all debate:


And though these seem to be abandoned structures, they truly have angular symmetry for such accurate right angled anomaly's:


I have an archive of moon anomaly's available scrutiny, but I will reserve the desire to post them all at once right now.
So, what do you make of these representation's for structural feasibility?

"I'm so glad to be reconnected guy's!!"

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Thanks guys for all the replies. I knew that there were other articles on Schroteri and other moon anomalities but I particulary didn't want to influence my work after looking at others stuff. I wanted to take a fresh look sort of as in 'this is what I see' kind of thing. Anyway this has really wet my juices and to Zorgon, I started work on my government computer but quickly switched it to my home after I acquired some of the software I needed...whew off the hook..
Anyway as I said, on the Schroteri work that this was my 'feeble' first atempt and it certainly won't be my last. I need to do a lot of homework on all the great work that people have put in before me...Hooah

[sky otter]

thanks for the pic of the buggy E1...to me that fit the outline that i could see

do you guys go with any of this stuff that is in this article?  obviously i am not up to snuff as you all seem to be and i wasn't aware the russians had buggy's on the moon.....i am a beginner at the moon stuff so please forgive my naivety on some things

here's the article


http://blogs.sundaymercury.net/weirdscience/2010/04/another-soviet-moon-buggy-spot.html
Another Soviet moon buggy spotted
By Daniel Smith on Apr 29, 10 10:00 AM

A long-lost Soviet moon buggy - which went MIA in the early 1970s - has been found on the moon by a NASA satellite.

Lunokhod 1 landed in the Mare Imbrium aboard the Luna 17 lander in 1970 and rolled around on the Moon's surface for 11 months before it gave up the ghost.
Powered by solar/nuclear energy, the rover was happily going about its business while NASA was landing Apollo 14 and 15.

The Lunokhod carried a French-made reflector unit, intended to help with measurements of the moon and its orbit, which should have meant that the defunct rover could be easily located from Earth.

However the Soviet operators had only a sketchy notion where their craft actually was at any given time and in fact since Lunokhod 1 went off-line nobody has known exactly where it finished up.

The reflector doesn't perform well enough for Earthly astronomers to pick up sunlight from it, and the alternative technique - beaming a laser from Earth at the rover and looking for the reflected light - requires that one have a fairly close idea where it is in order to aim the laser.



Salvation came last month, when NASA released a tranche of detailed orbital photos of the Mare Imbrium, taken by its new Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter (LRO) satellite as it made repeated passes just 30 miles above the surface.

With these, it was possible to finally get a decent idea where the lost Lunokhod and its parent lander were.

Using the 3.5m telescope at Apache Point in New Mexico, scientists were able at last to get a laser reflection back from the missing moon-prowler, getting its range to within a centimetre.

Lunokhod 1's successor, Lunokhod 2 - nowadays the property of wealthy game developer and space tourist Richard Garriott - was also recently relocated with the aid of LRO photographs.


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[Somamech]

Nice work Sarge 

I was considering how it would be possible to use your skills along with remote viewers to enable the creation of an STL file.   

[zorgon]

Anyway this has really wet my juices and to Zorgon, I started work on my government computer but quickly switched it to my home after I acquired some of the software I needed...whew off the hook..

Well that is good news... we want the MIB's to stay on our side   (so far so good )

As to the work, a fresh look is a good idea... and we have always encourages, even pushed, people to do their own studies.

One mod at ATS was a skeptic... he just couldn't see what John and I saw in the Copernicus image. He saw like most see... just blurry rocks...

The problem on Copernicus is SCALE. Until you wrap your mind around the scale, you won't see it. Then one day he saw one image... and HE saw it. Once that happened he saw the rest and even found new ones.

I also firmly believe that some people are not meant to see... but that is the topic of another thread

I will add your videos to the library thread on this crater, but will hold off till your later work.

[1Worldwatcher]

There were so many thing's that I found when I investigated these allegation's of the moon anomaly's, I have literally seen hundreds of picture's and there were a few that really stood out as "Obvious" intelligent structure's that are very unlikely to be produced in such an environment that the moon support's.
Here's a wide view shot of another anomaly that would beg to be called anything but a "Layout" Moon base station. Though I can't validate and/or verify my assumption's are factual, there is little left for explanation than that it was put there by intelligence, not coincidence.


here are some color filtered picture's that are truly remarkable as for there location and obvious structure types which seem to be identical to each other.


Then there is thing's like the Lunar Castle, though dubbed a hoax, there is no juror that has an absolute answer to this anomaly.


There is another lunar anomaly that merits some question as well. It has been dubbed "The Bridge" and if one takes this photo into fine detail, the details are astounding.


Here is one that is dubbed "The Obelisk" it has 2 different resolution's to bring out the detail, but it is quite fascinating.


I have some more of these incredible displays of unusual placement, articulated designed (Seemingly) and always thought provoking impracticalities of these being formed by nothing more than time and natural circumstance.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Two new vid's I made about the 'disk' on Lo5-126-h2a. I really need hi-res photos because I'm old and can't see crap sometimes. I was naturally drawn to the disk, but what also caught my eye was the structure just to the left of the disk, seemingly floating in air. It has to be elevated because of the shadow its in, or it could be a tall structure coming out of the valley floor. If you look closely you'll find that the two objects are close to the same size. I went with that they are part of the same structure or they're connected in some way or were connected and as a mechanical operation, moved apart. Anyway this is what I came up with. As always, let me know you're thoughts. Peace 

vid 1


vid 2

[1Worldwatcher]

I want to apologize for the last picture that I had posted. It was a hurried post and it is larger than I remembered. But, what you are seeing is a side by side of the image and then too the left, it is out lined as to what "I see" in the details of this anomaly.
It looks as though it is a complete complex with all the amenities that would be required to an actual occupied facility.
It is a fascinating sight, I was absolutely mesmerized by the details when I inverted the colors and started doing an inch by inch visual of this particular landscape photo.
I know you say you would like to see thing's with "New Eyes" but if it were not for other people pointing out certain thing's whilst researching such remarkable evidence it may have went unnoticed.
If you need a reduced Picture of the posted one, just let me know and I will forward the complete formatted layout for you.

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Thanks 1Worldwatcher, if you could give me the file names of those pics, I'll try and find a hi-res version and take a look at what you're talking about. 

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Something new...just playing around...

[johnlear]

I've been trying to follow alll the info on the net concerning the moon and it's many mysteries for only a few years. I grew up during the moon race in the sixties and most of my science fair projects were about the solar system (cut in half pingpong balls guled to a poster board) to the Mercury, Gemini and Apollo missions. But until I found John Lear's 'The Living Moon' site and Joseph Skipper's 'Mars Anomaly Research' site, I just found the info out there severely 'lacking' and full of junk. These two sites opened a new world of info for me.
What peaked my interest was not so much what I saw but what I didn't see. Some of the photos and objects  that are pointed out seem nothing more than rock formations and shadow effects. The objects that are deliberately blurred or a later released verison, completely gone are the ones that bring it home for me.

I'm a 3d modeler by trade. I create 3d models from 2d engineering drawings, bascially turning a flat drawing into a working 3d model. Sometimes if the drawings are very old and haven't been updated to show improvement a site, I rely on an operator at a site to take photos of the actual  conditions and I use that to create a 3d model. I'm very good at interpreting distances and visualizing objects in 3 dimensions. I would love to get my hands on some 'quality' photos of objects on the moon and turn them into 3d models. I'm going to try this with some photos that I'll pick out and see if I can give them some 'structure'. I'll have to get some time at work to do this because all my modeling software is on my 'government' computer . Wish me luck.

Hello Rocky,

Any chance you could work on these 2 photos? The  first is a spaceport on the farside.
The second is something in the crater Aristarchus taken with a 10" scope.

Thanks.

<img src="http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8476/farsideterm172westcontr.png" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>By <a target="_new" href="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/johnlear">johnlear</a> at 2011-06-08


<img src="http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/4396/aristarchuse.png" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us"/><br/>By <a target="_new" href="http://profile.imageshack.us/user/johnlear">johnlear</a> at 2011-04-05

[Sgt.Rocknroll]

Thanks John for the reply..
The pics are kinda of blurry, but I'll give it a shot...

[johnlear]

Thanks John for the reply..
The pics are kinda of blurry, but I'll give it a shot...

OK thanks. Anything would be a great help.

all the best.

[lillyphant]

gotta luv the enthusiasm!