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David Icke arrives at Bilderberg 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B71_u0JVtyM
I wonder what David Icke is worth ::) he must be pulling some cash in on the circuits.
I do hope that the English now realize that there is no more working/middle/upper/lower class from finding out about the billderberg group, it is just US AGAINST THEM.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on June 08, 2013, 03:51:16 AM
... it is just US AGAINST THEM.
Okay so...
1) now we know, well they know because we always did :P
2) now the public is aware that the Bilderbergs really do exist
3) so... now what?
strategy? game plan? pitchforks? anyone?
::)
Well it had to happen sooner or later and you know it was only a matter of time till people woke up to there crap.
1) strategy,THEY will have one and of had it for a long time.
2)game plan, THERE absolute power and dominance over our and there fate.
3)pitchforks, LOL=US just about the only weapon against THEM discounting knowledge.
A 2 pronged attack maybe, I have been shouting REVOLUTION for years but i'm on my own it seems.
And Alex Jones shouting THE ANSWER TO 1984 IS 1776 has made me deaf I think people get it Alex.
Dam think i have a bug in the system! laptop is playing up.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on June 08, 2013, 04:18:14 AM
I have been shouting REVOLUTION for years but i'm on my own it seems.
That was my point everyone talks revolution, everyone says the PTB must go... but no one has any idea HOW or is willing to pick up the torch and lead the fight...
QuoteAnd Alex Jones shouting THE ANSWER TO 1984 IS 1776 has made me deaf I think people get it Alex.
Well give Alex the spear and let him lead the charge. shouting at them won't win any headway.
Problem is we have pitchforks and pea shooters... they have drones :D
QuoteDam think i have a bug in the system! laptop is playing up.
Thats no BUG!!! :o it's... it's...
THEM
Yup, Bows and Arrows against the lightning. It seems the machine has grown to insermountable proportions. The populace has been numbed with benality and shock. So they just carry on unmolested in plain view. I mean who is gonna fight the UN? The best we can do chaps is keep spreading the word, and make damn sure we have our facts straight.
Bilderberg 2013 Guest List check out the names on here.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10102170/Bilderberg-Group-2013-guest-list-and-agenda.html
This is the First year without Jim Tucker who spent his over 25 yrs of his life following the Bilderberg Group and made people believers. He helped wake up the world!!! We owe Jim Tucker!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObuQffB_8hY
Quote from: ShotInTheDark on June 08, 2013, 11:27:46 AM
Bilderberg 2013 Guest List check out the names on here.
Love this guy's title:
Ed Balls, Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer This one is unexpected...
Eric E. Schmidt, Executive Chairman, Google Inc. And OH NOOOO Heineken Beer is Bilderburger Beer
Jean François van Boxmeer, CEO, Heineken
You know...I wish I could talk to David Icke.
It's hard, because I've learned that in this day and age, if a person does not like every word of what you have to say, then they tend to immediately decide that they do not like you, as well; so even though I would try to be diplomatic, I suspect he sadly would not like me.
I would tell him that I felt that the way John Robbins and the others treated him after the release of Thrive, was extremely unfair; and that I was unhappy about that, because I genuinely felt that he did not deserve Robbins' denunciation.
I would also, however, tell him that I had discovered that being mentally pre-occupied with the Illuminati was not beneficial to my psychological wellbeing, and that if he wanted to remain so pre-occupied, that was his right and his perogative, but I had decided that I was no longer going to be. If I wanted to be particularly confrontational, I would also ask him (not rhetorically; I would genuinely want to know) how he felt said obsession with the Illuminati was able to help us, and what solution he had in mind for the problems that they were causing. He honestly seems to be extremely good at diagnosing the problem - I would even go so far as to say that I have seen none better - but I haven't seen him offer too much in the way of concrete solutions.
I felt he did make a truly positive contribution to Thrive, in terms of explaining how the bankers and such operate; but again, there is more focus on the problem, than I really consider helpful.
Quote from: petrus4 on June 08, 2013, 02:47:40 PM
You know...I wish I could talk to David Icke.
It's hard, because I've learned that in this day and age, if a person does not like every word of what you have to say, then they tend to immediately decide that they do not like you, as well; so even though I would try to be diplomatic, I suspect he sadly would not like me.
I would tell him that I felt that the way John Robbins and the others treated him after the release of Thrive, was extremely unfair; and that I was unhappy about that, because I genuinely felt that he did not deserve Robbins' denunciation.
I would also, however, tell him that I had discovered that being mentally pre-occupied with the Illuminati was not beneficial to my psychological wellbeing, and that if he wanted to remain so pre-occupied, that was his right and his perogative, but I had decided that I was no longer going to be. If I wanted to be particularly confrontational, I would also ask him (not rhetorically; I would genuinely want to know) how he felt said obsession with the Illuminati was able to help us, and what solution he had in mind for the problems that they were causing. He honestly seems to be extremely good at diagnosing the problem - I would even go so far as to say that I have seen none better - but I haven't seen him offer too much in the way of concrete solutions.
I felt he did make a truly positive contribution to Thrive, in terms of explaining how the bankers and such operate; but again, there is more focus on the problem, than I really consider helpful.
Good afternoon sir,
I agree, But really, what is he supposed to do? He is obviously a driven individual who belives it is his lifes mission to speak out!! and by his recent attendences at wembly etc he is garnering a lot of momentum. My big problem with Icke is his lack of self editing. I mean i dont know if there are bloody reptillians amongst us! but i certainly wouldnt make it a point of attention even if i new there was... there are so many more pertinant issues he raises that folk can grasp far more easily.
Elvis
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You will be pleased to know that we do not throw bottles on this site. :P
Are you going to open your shoebox and share secrets with us? ;)
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Has you considered that perhaps David Icke role is that of bringing awareness so we all can decide for ourselves what to do? No one man is going to say do this and you are going to see change. It's going to be up to us a individuals to enact change in our lives and as more and more of us do this collectively the change we wish to see happens. What form will it take. That is up to me, that is up to you. It is up to all of us.
Edward
For what it's worth !
I didn't catch this whole interview at work the other night and I forget the interviewee's name, but what I did hear was interesting. I don't tend to follow this aspect much so i hope anyone that doe's follow may garner a bit from this interview, best thing about the interview is that it's not derived from either side of the fence :D
Bilderberg: A secretive meeting of the world's most powerful
SOURCE:
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/drive/bilderberg3a-a-secretive-meeting-of-the-world27s-most-powerful/4738704
The Sunday Times interview with David Icke "It's A Jungle Out There"
Great article on Icke. as i thought he's on the bandwagon and doing quite well ::)
you MUST buy my book to find out the answer to that! yeah whatever Dave.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/Magazine/Interviews/article1271885.ece (http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/Magazine/Interviews/article1271885.ece)
Icke has to be a stooge for the Bildebergers or someone who likes conspiracy theorists to look like idiots. Icke did some good work then started spouting BS. His insistence on rambling on about reptiles without proof just discredits his own and by association the work of others.
Quote from: Pimander on October 31, 2013, 02:34:41 PM
Icke has to be a stooge for the Bildebergers or someone who likes conspiracy theorists to look like idiots. Icke did some good work then started spouting BS. His insistence on rambling on about reptiles without proof just discredits his own and by association the work of others.
Ho no doubt! And I imagine his "tours" and guest appearances make a tidy profit too.
I'm not a fan of these ego driven celebrity types. Nick Cook is another example.
No new evidence, same OLD case's re visited spouting ITS GOT TO BE ALIENS!!
Icke and his "reptiles" and forever pointing out the problems but doing nothing
about any of them. Fear mongering but like Z says sensation sells.
Even if it's BS
Strange indeed. Some of his idea's are slightly ridiculous - with no proof.
However, he did ruin his own career in the 90's.
Quote from: Sinny on October 31, 2013, 05:00:17 PM
Strange indeed. Some of his idea's are slightly ridiculous - with no proof.
However, he did ruin his own career in the 90's.
He said he had "a call from god" or words similar to that effect.
So he heard voices in his head. See a pattern emerging here sinny?
Aye, it's a rum do.
Yes he maybe batshyte crazy , but I'd rather have punters listening to him than the "News".
He's talking about the stuff we are interested in and he is talking to a lot of people. Who else in this game pulls those kind numbers on stage.
No one.
And who cares if he's making money?
If he would stick the reptile stuff in the bin.
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Elvis
Quote from: stealthyaroura on October 31, 2013, 05:22:31 PM
He said he had "a call from god" or words similar to that effect.
So he heard voices in his head. See a pattern emerging here sinny?
Has anyone else noticed that ALL the old whistle blowers follow this same path? They start out with a great story... then end up total Loons... look at Greer
Voice of God? Ah see? NOW we have the truth....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqOx_wUWWM
QuoteAye, it's a rum do.
RUM!!!!! ARRRRR Now yer talkin!!!
We could play this game for hours. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbhT-o_UDxQ
if you are hearing voices.
how do you know who they are ? ?
Dunno. Is it that if they say they are from another star system then they are telling the truth so they are who they say? Or if they say they are God then they must be?
Or do we need to think for ourselves?
Quote from: stealthyaroura on October 31, 2013, 05:22:31 PM
He said he had "a call from god" or words similar to that effect.
So he heard voices in his head. See a pattern emerging here sinny?
Aye, it's a rum do.
No, I'm not, Icke hasn't said anything about utilising radio frequencies.
If fact I was reading:
Extraterrestrials and the American Zeitgeist: Alien Contact Tales Since the 1950s , earlier on today. A book which tackles the alien hypothesis with a slightly skeptical yet objective manner. The key point ascertained in this circumstance was that even this author found the Ekker material to be quite 'different'.
This material has/is literally 'stumping' everyone.
Quote from: Sinny on October 31, 2013, 10:34:00 PM
No, I'm not, Icke hasn't said anything about utilising radio frequencies.
If fact I was reading: Extraterrestrials and the American Zeitgeist: Alien Contact Tales Since the 1950s , earlier on today. A book which tackles the alien hypothesis with a slightly skeptical yet objective manner. The key point ascertained in this circumstance was that even this author found the Ekker material to be quite 'different'.
This material has/is literally 'stumping' everyone.
OK then, to be clear I was asking you not telling you, I am trying to find out more about these "voices" and there origins but it's very complex and there is so much material to go through I can't see there being a simple answer! More like many.
The Ekker and beter material really is fascinating.its a huge body of work and I'm trying to catch up by sticking to the journals so i don't get confused with people adding there own bits in here and there.
as you say with Dr Beter's revelations never really being challenged does make ya think, truth may be stranger than fiction!
With Icke,it's just a matter of personal taste after all it's the information that counts not The person selling it :P I wouldn't pay to see him.
But I see what you mean Elvis, why should I care what they are making? Especially when your average network news anchor sprouting "the news" is getting paid huge sums too.tit for tat.
That book "extraterrestrials and the American zeitgeist" does look like a good read.
I do like books and I dare say I could buy one of Icke's at some point if I liked it.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on November 01, 2013, 03:46:31 AM
OK then, to be clear I was asking you not telling you, I am trying to find out more about these "voices" and there origins but it's very complex and there is so much material to go through I can't see there being a simple answer! More like many.
Sorry Stealthy, I thought I was replying to Pimander - the skeptic. I should have gone to spec savers ::)
QuoteThe Ekker and beter material really is fascinating.its a huge body of work and I'm trying to catch up by sticking to the journals so i don't get confused with people adding there own bits in here and there.
Is a very large undertaking indeed, have you started from the beginning? I tried, for the first 18 months, just reading here and there - I didn't get very far - as far as understanding goes. However, in the last 18 months, I decided I should read them in order, and now it's all a little more clearer. Having said that, I'm 3 years in and still only half way there.
Quoteas you say with Dr Beter's revelations never really being challenged does make ya think, truth may be stranger than fiction!
Certainly!
QuoteWith Icke,it's just a matter of personal taste after all it's the information that counts not The person selling it :P I wouldn't pay to see him.
I believe Icke had an experience of sorts - and he does talk more sense than most, however, as has been highlighted - he has got some 'far out' thoeries - who knows, maybe he is on to something, but he does need to be more tactful - and maybe go back to Uni to learn how to present his arguments from an acedemic point of view.
QuoteBut I see what you mean Elvis, why should I care what they are making?
I always found it curious that the Phoenix Journals were never copy-righted. If Hatonn is to be believed it is because "You can not 'copy-right' the truth!". If it's opposers are to be believed - it was to suck us into International banking heist worth Millions. This is what I'm currently investigating. I know money was heavily involved around the Phoenix Operations, however, if people have the ability to manipulate financial matters on a huge scale, why would they scare potential investors away by talking about 'space command' none-sense'?]
QuoteThat book "extraterrestrials and the American zeitgeist" does look like a good read.
Yea, I've only read the highlighted point available on Google - but seems like a good read if you want to get to know the history of channeling.
QuoteI do like books and I dare say I could buy one of Icke's at some point if I liked it.
Meh, his youtube vids are enough for me ;D
Quote from: Sinny on November 01, 2013, 09:38:51 AM
Sorry Stealthy, I thought I was replying to Pimander - the skeptic. I should have gone to spec savers ::)
It would have meant the same thing if I had typed it Sinny. ;D
Sinny, Peter Beter means wanker in American slang. I think there is a bit of a joke going on at our expense.
Can one of the esteemed American members correct the translation of the slang if I am wrong? I think a Peter is a willy/penis/cock. A Peter Beater is a wanker.
Quote from: Sinny on November 01, 2013, 09:38:51 AM
Sorry Stealthy, I thought I was replying to Pimander - the skeptic.
What do you mean by sceptic? I have seen a UFO so I know they exist. I just try to be honest and think critically about everything I see, especially in the "conspiracy world". Surely that is sensible when we already know vast portions of the information is counter intelligence and therefore disinformation?
Scepticism (English spelling) is the healthiest thing for any truth seeker. Open minded is good but never accept anything at face value. It is only pseudo-sceptical denial that is harmful. I will never be a pseudo-sceptic and you will never catch me hoaxing, lying or anything similar unless it is a thought exercise (which I will always explain afterwards should that be the case).
QuoteMeh, his [Ickes's] youtube vids are enough for me ;D
"And The Truth Shall Set You Free" is actually a pretty good review of global conspiracy theory. It was after his awakening but before he started claiming that the Queen is a reptilian and the rest of the nonsense. The book summarises the pyramid of the global elite and actually names many of the key players in the global power network
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http://www.amazon.com/And-Truth-Shall-Set-Free/dp/0953881059
I'd actually recommend reading it to any "budding truthist" even if Icke is a bit nuts. Perhaps it is impossible to see the truth if you aren't mad enough to do silly things like post on here when you could be writing material that pays money (I mean me not Icke :P)
That will be £5 for the free advertising David. :o
interviewer: "so the builderberg group are having another bash, what do you think will be on the agenda mr Icke?"
Icke: " well I imagine they will be deciding which of the useless eaters get to live or die..... I recently mentioned in my book 'Reptillian Overloards of the monarchy" blah blah bla"
He needs no help advertising LoL.
Peter beter=wanker? Well I can see the word play but I have not cum across anything to back this up? (Chortle F'nar) ???
Sinny, I'm sticking to what you have posted here for the most part. (& links)
It's great material the Ekker etc stuff,you have been researching this for years! impressive.
I'm just enjoying reading what you have uncovered, I'm certainly no expert.
Watching the FOURTH KIND last night on TV did make me think if these are military psychological opps that's some messed up crazy $hit.?
So many angles to look at. Gets a little overwhelming though. what the hell is going on??
Sorry derail.
Quote from: Pimander on November 01, 2013, 01:39:40 PM
What do you mean by sceptic?
A skeptic, as in, it's dictionary definition - which you so kindly provided - in regards to the subject matter being discussed by myself & Stealth; with a slight learning toward my own definition of somebody to takes a great names sake, and compares it to male masturbation...
Who's the joke on? Facts are there in history.
Quote from: Sinny on November 01, 2013, 07:33:27 PM
A skeptic, as in, it's dictionary definition - which you so kindly provided - in regards to the subject matter being discussed by myself & Stealth; with a slight learning toward my own definition of somebody to takes a great names sake, and compares it to male masturbation...
I think there might be a couple of typos in your post mate. ;)
QuoteWho's the joke on? Facts are there in history.
Facts, jokes and I don't know who the jokes on any longer... I'm completely lost 8)
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Comedy gold. Kin' hell Elvis.
Every time. ;D bah. Too funny.
Quote from: stealthyaroura on November 01, 2013, 02:27:25 PM
interviewer: "so the builderberg group are having another bash, what do you think will be on the agenda mr Icke?"
Icke: " well I imagine they will be deciding which of the useless eaters get to live or die..... I recently mentioned in my book 'Reptillian Overloards of the monarchy" blah blah bla"
He needs no help advertising LoL.
You raise a good point, if Icke was a threat to the agenda, they would have removed him by now.
Or is it one of those paradox's where he's having to
have to sound barmy to get the truth out and yet
live? Or maybe a mixture of both working in the agenda favor.
Hmm, I like the latter.
Quote
Sinny, I'm sticking to what you have posted here for the most part. (& links)
It's great material the Ekker etc stuff,you have been researching this for years! impressive.
I'm just enjoying reading what you have uncovered, I'm certainly no expert.
Cool - those are some pretty good places to start for curiosities sake.
I must admit I've been actively trying to 'debunk' this for a few months now - but I'm not yet finding anything condemning.
Having said that, I've turned to Billy Meiers opinion, to broaden my perspective.
As presented in THE PLEIADIAN MISSION by Randolph Winters:http://awakenfreedom.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/6/0/3260192/the_pleiadean_mission_ebook.pdf
Quote1937 A.D. Kamagol II's second in command is called Aruseak. He decides
to leave on his own. He becomes known as Ashtar Sheran and tries to
influence the people of Earth.
....
Is There Really an ET Named Ashtar?
Kamagol was an evil leader of the Bafath. In 1937 a commander of hisnamed Aruseak, known to some as Ashtar Sheran, fled the tyranny of his rule in his own personal effort to know the truth. He and his men left the Earth to get away from the power of Kamagol and make a better life for themselves. Since the Bafath are no longer on Earth and Kamagol has passed away, it has been safe for Ashtar to make contact with some of those on Earth.
He sends information to the minds of many Earth people, but is not really informed of the truth himself. We must be careful with his information, since he still uses the tactics of the Bafath by appealing to those who are seeking a god to worship. Using the same methods as his former leaders, he will quire often control Earth people by pretending that Jesus is with him in his ship and is working for Earth. This is very unfortunate, for many people of Earth prefer to believe in the teachings of Jesus, and they are
being led astray by the deceptive teachings of Ashtar. There are too many incidents of ETs easily taking advantage of the mind-set here on Earth.
Which certainly makes sense to me having read the Ekker material. She had contact alright. He certainly sent information- by the bucket load, he claimed to ride with Jesus Christ, and he does promote God Worship of Aton, (Note,:Tsarion).
And contact 145 states that Ashtar Sheran has been a more positive influence over the last few decades :http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/148628/Billy_Meier__145th_Contact__About_Ashtar_Sheran/
And yet this is spewed all over the internet:QuoteBilly Meier: The Pleiadians told us about this "Ashtar Command", which entitles himself as a certain commander Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn, Commander-in-Chief by profession, Earth Project Transition, Pleiades Sector Flight Command, Intergalactic Federation Fleet Ashtar Command: Earth Representative to the Cosmic Council on Earth Transition. I was told this is absolutely not true. Our friends don't have any contact with Americans or any other human being except me. This and some more information I received while contact no. 233 on December 1, 1989 with Ptaah.
http://raphael-labro.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=104&Itemid=221)
This is false first and foremost because Billy's contact's acknowledged other legitimate contacts.
Problem with this subject is that you have to discern at every given corner.
I mean look at this trash:QuoteThe Bafath use mind control to fool people, and use people to spread false information and false hope.One tactic is to make actual contact with picked people, take them up in spaceships, and lie to them about a galactic brotherhood, such as Ashtar Command. This "Ashtar" is really a member of Gizeh whose intent is rule over the spirit of humanity, and is aligned with the Draco agenda. The Gizeh also work directly with Cabal black ops military and have given advanced technology to the US and UK and Russia, such as cloning tech. The being who calls himself Sananda is really a Gizeh ally lizard boy known as Belezebub, the demon of many legends. It is no mistake that Sadam Hussein's evil political faction was called the Ba'ath Party and controlled from Egypt. The Grand Werewolf Vladimir Putin is also controlled by the Gizeh Intelligence.
QuoteThe Bafath also pretend to be Plejarans, even pretend to be Semjase or P'Taah, and make contact with people t again spread lies. This is why you cannot trust much of the recent alleged "contacts." The Bafath tried to murder Semjase in 1984, as reported by Billy Meier, and she was taken to the DAL Universe for medical treatment by the Sona'ar people. It was her last contact with Billy because Bikly had been compromised by the Bafath and he could no longer be trusted; any subsequent contacts are Billy's lies or Bafath deceptions, and resulted in Billy's mental decline and belief he is Jesus reincarnated.
http://formerwhitehat.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/beware-of-the-bafath-deceptions-ashtar-command-and-other-false-ets/
I've just finished reading the
actual published translations of the contact notes. The Bafath were negative, however, they were banished, Ashtar Shen broke away from those and he returned to experience for himself. Semjase needed to be treated by the Sona'ar people because she tripped, fractured her skull and received brain damage.
If there's one thing I've learned from this it's to never truth the internet!! ::) lol
QuoteWatching the FOURTH KIND last night on TV did make me think if these are military psychological opps that's some messed up crazy $hit.?
Truths paraded in front of our eye's. Been keeping up with the most recent Sci-Fi movies lately?
Some interesting projections.
Quotelittle overwhelming though. what the hell is going on??l
Ditto.
Cheers Stealthy :) and a G back at cha.
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