David Icke arrives at Bilderberg 2013

[Sinny]

What do you mean by sceptic?

A skeptic, as in, it's dictionary definition - which you so kindly provided - in regards to the subject matter being discussed by myself & Stealth; with a slight learning toward my own definition of somebody to takes a great names sake, and compares it to male masturbation...

Who's the joke on? Facts are there in history.

[Pimander]

A skeptic, as in, it's dictionary definition - which you so kindly provided - in regards to the subject matter being discussed by myself & Stealth; with a slight learning toward my own definition of somebody to takes a great names sake, and compares it to male masturbation...

I think there might be a couple of typos in your post mate.

Who's the joke on? Facts are there in history.

Facts, jokes and I don't know who the jokes on any longer...  I'm completely lost 

[Elvis Hendrix]

[stealthyaroura]

Comedy gold. Kin' hell Elvis.
Every time.  bah. Too funny.

[Sinny]

I'm completely lost 

I thought as much.

[Sinny]

interviewer: "so the builderberg group are having another bash, what do you think will be on the agenda mr Icke?"

Icke: " well I imagine they will be deciding which of the useless eaters get to live or die..... I recently mentioned in my book 'Reptillian Overloards of the monarchy" blah blah bla"

He needs no help advertising LoL.

You raise a good point, if Icke was a threat to the agenda, they would have removed him by now.
Or is it one of those paradox's where he's having to have to sound barmy to get the truth out and yet live? Or maybe a mixture of both working in the agenda favor.

Hmm, I like the latter.

Sinny, I'm sticking to what you have posted here for the most part. (& links)
It's great material the Ekker etc stuff,you have been researching this for years! impressive.
I'm just enjoying reading what you have uncovered, I'm certainly no expert.

Cool  - those are some pretty good places to start for curiosities sake.
I must admit I've been actively trying to 'debunk' this for a few months now - but I'm not yet finding anything condemning.

Having said that, I've turned to Billy Meiers opinion, to broaden my perspective.

As presented in THE PLEIADIAN MISSION by Randolph Winters:
http://awakenfreedom.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/6/0/3260192/the_pleiadean_mission_ebook.pdf

1937 A.D. Kamagol II's second in command is called Aruseak. He decides
to leave on his own. He becomes known as Ashtar Sheran and tries to
influence the people of Earth.

....

Is There Really an ET Named Ashtar?

Kamagol was an evil leader of the Bafath. In 1937 a commander of hisnamed Aruseak, known to some as Ashtar Sheran, fled the tyranny of his rule in his own personal effort to know the truth. He and his men left the Earth to get away from the power of Kamagol and make a better life for themselves. Since the Bafath are no longer on Earth and Kamagol has passed away, it has been safe for Ashtar to make contact with some of those on Earth.

He sends information to the minds of many Earth people, but is not really informed of the truth himself. We must be careful with his information, since he still uses the tactics of the Bafath by appealing to those who are seeking a god to worship. Using the same methods as his former leaders, he will quire often control Earth people by pretending that Jesus is with him in his ship and is working for Earth. This is very unfortunate, for many people of Earth prefer to believe in the teachings of Jesus, and they are
being led astray by the deceptive teachings of Ashtar. There are too many incidents of ETs easily taking advantage of the mind-set here on Earth.

Which certainly makes sense to me having read the Ekker material. She had contact alright. He certainly sent information- by the bucket load, he claimed to ride with Jesus Christ, and he does promote God Worship of Aton, (Note,:Tsarion).

And contact 145 states that Ashtar Sheran has  been a more positive influence over the last few decades :
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/148628/Billy_Meier__145th_Contact__About_Ashtar_Sheran/

And yet this is spewed all over the internet:

Billy Meier: The Pleiadians told us about this "Ashtar Command", which entitles himself as a certain commander Gyeorgos Ceres Hatonn, Commander-in-Chief by profession, Earth Project Transition, Pleiades Sector Flight Command, Intergalactic Federation Fleet Ashtar Command: Earth Representative to the Cosmic Council on Earth Transition. I was told this is absolutely not true. Our friends don't have any contact with Americans or any other human being except me. This and some more information I received while contact no. 233 on December 1, 1989 with Ptaah.

http://raphael-labro.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=104&Itemid=221)

This is false first and foremost because Billy's contact's acknowledged other legitimate contacts.

Problem with this subject is that you have to discern at every given corner.

I mean look at this trash:

The Bafath use mind control to fool people, and use people to spread false information and false hope.One tactic is to make actual contact with picked people, take them up in spaceships, and lie to them about a galactic brotherhood, such as Ashtar Command. This "Ashtar" is really a member of Gizeh whose intent is rule over the spirit of humanity, and is aligned with the Draco agenda. The Gizeh also work directly with Cabal black ops military and have given advanced technology to the US and UK and Russia, such as cloning tech. The being who calls himself Sananda is really a Gizeh ally lizard boy known as Belezebub, the demon of many legends. It is no mistake that Sadam Hussein's evil political faction was called the Ba'ath Party and controlled from Egypt. The Grand Werewolf Vladimir Putin is also controlled by the Gizeh Intelligence.

The Bafath also pretend to be Plejarans, even pretend to be Semjase or P'Taah, and make contact with people t again spread lies. This is why you cannot trust much of the recent alleged "contacts."  The Bafath tried to murder Semjase in 1984, as reported by Billy Meier, and she was taken to the DAL Universe for medical treatment by the Sona'ar people. It was her last contact with Billy because Bikly had been compromised by the Bafath and he could no longer be trusted; any subsequent contacts are Billy's lies or Bafath deceptions, and resulted in Billy's mental decline and belief he is Jesus reincarnated.

http://formerwhitehat.wordpress.com/2012/04/01/beware-of-the-bafath-deceptions-ashtar-command-and-other-false-ets/

I've just finished reading the actual published translations of the contact notes. The Bafath were negative, however, they were banished, Ashtar Shen broke away from those and he returned to experience for himself. Semjase needed to be treated by the Sona'ar people because she tripped, fractured her skull and received brain damage.

If there's one thing I've learned from this it's to never truth the internet!!  lol

Watching the FOURTH KIND last night on TV did make me think if these are military psychological opps that's some messed up crazy $hit.?

Truths paraded in front of our eye's. Been keeping up with the most recent Sci-Fi movies lately?
Some interesting projections.

little overwhelming though. what the hell is going on??l

Ditto.

[Pimander]

I thought as much.

My Dad can't find me.

[Elvis Hendrix]

Cheers Stealthy and a G back at cha.