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Title: Seriously, what?!
Post by: Sinny on March 03, 2014, 01:44:47 PM
Most hilarious news I've read for a while  :D

Quote"You just don't invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert your interests," John Kerry said during an interview with NBC's Meet the Press. "This is an act of aggression that is completely trumped up in terms of its pretext. It's really 19th century behaviour in the 21st century."

Kerry has also threatened to isolate Russia economically and politically and warned of potential asset freezes and visa bans, adding to media and political hype that followed Russia authorization of sending a stabilization force in Crimea on official request from the authorities.


Although Kerry was never challenged by the interviewer to comment in terms of that statement on Washington's own constant threats to use force and military invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan, those who watched the interview immediately smelled the hypocrisy
http://rt.com/news/kerry-russia-us-pretext-494/

I don't think I need to say much more.. Apart from thank the Americans for a good laugh  ;)
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 03, 2014, 02:28:25 PM
yes that was funny ;D

Of course you need a pretext to invade someone, it's no good saying "Oh, we see you have plenty of oil, can we have some?". That never works :D
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on March 03, 2014, 02:37:16 PM
Perpetuating the myth!!!!

Fact:

"Iraq has provided the United States with approximately 14.3 million barrels of oil out of a total of about 298 million barrels imported, or 4.8 percent of our total imports."

as of 2012....

Is oil a major factor in western military plans? Absolutely!... But at least get the facts straight!...
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: sky otter on March 03, 2014, 03:03:21 PM


golden reply Rock
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: undo11 on March 03, 2014, 06:54:09 PM
well since american colonialism is just british and vatican colonialism in disguise, and all in the name of a new world order of whatever the heck it is, i also find it ironic but for a totally different reason. 
hehe
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: WarToad on March 03, 2014, 07:05:15 PM
I'm sure Putin got one hell of a good laugh from Kerry's comment.
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: undo11 on March 03, 2014, 07:17:27 PM
Quote from: WarToad on March 03, 2014, 07:05:15 PM
I'm sure Putin got one hell of a good laugh from Kerry's comment.

especially since they're probably vodka drinking buddies to begin with. :D
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 03, 2014, 07:37:17 PM
You guys are priceless ;D

Well europe is not too happy, we buy a lot of gas from Russia, now they are talking sanctions etc, but we are getting a lot of extra gas from our own poiticians ::)
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: WarToad on March 03, 2014, 08:12:34 PM
The EU and Russian economies are pretty tight.  I don't think the EU will push for any kind of embargo to punish Russia, it would just hurt the EU as well.  Putin has a strong hand right now.  We'll see how this plays out.
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: undo11 on March 03, 2014, 08:45:56 PM
Quote from: WarToad on March 03, 2014, 08:12:34 PM
The EU and Russian economies are pretty tight.  I don't think the EU will push for any kind of embargo to punish Russia, it would just hurt the EU as well.  Putin has a strong hand right now.  We'll see how this plays out.

it's a staged drama.  none of the posturing and hand-wringing is real.  they are all friends at the top. they share sensitive data with each other, they allow each other to spy on each other's citizens, they even help cover up planetary anomalies.   if you don't believe it, just watch this and learn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c
and this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKwPzzK1b4k
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 03, 2014, 09:33:17 PM
QuoteThe EU and Russian economies are pretty tight.  I don't think the EU will push for any kind of embargo to punish Russia, it would just hurt the EU as well.  Putin has a strong hand right now.  We'll see how this plays out.

Yes it would, all our rich folks like their caviar :D But i have gas heating, so i don't want to be left in the cold...literally, LOL

Beth knows;

Quoteit's a staged drama.  none of the posturing and hand-wringing is real.  they are all friends at the top. they share sensitive data with each other, they allow each other to spy on each other's citizens, they even help cover up planetary anomalies.   if you don't believe it, just watch this and learn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c
and this;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKwPzzK1b4k
For Deuem etc;
http://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=rKwPzzK1b4k (http://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=rKwPzzK1b4k)

Whatever, time to fire up the HHO cels, solar cells, and other toys i have lying around, damn if i will be part of their staged dramas, much less a victim, LOL

-PWM-
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: Ellirium113 on March 03, 2014, 10:29:18 PM
There's a presidential candidate of the year right there!  :P ;D
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 03, 2014, 10:30:59 PM
Check this one out;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVWXmZB1wc

For Deuem (if it still works mate);
http://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=xSVWXmZB1wc (http://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=xSVWXmZB1wc)
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: ArMaP on March 03, 2014, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on March 03, 2014, 09:33:17 PM
Yes it would, all our rich folks like their caviar :D But i have gas heating, so i don't want to be left in the cold...literally, LOL
My (natural) gas comes from Algeria, so Portugal and Spain are the only EU countries (I think) that would not be affected by a gas embargo.
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 03, 2014, 11:47:04 PM
Good for you :D
Yes, i'm going to step up the HHO experiments from now on, you know you can weld, and power a barbecue at the same time? I have seen the tubies at work, LOL

PS the Ukraine is now oficially part of the EU, still think it's not our problem?....
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: Eighthman on March 04, 2014, 12:10:06 AM
I do believe that the world may never know the true reason why the US invaded Iraq.  They could never give the true reason....

It was done with the primary intent of trying to duplicate the same success the US had with Japan and Germany.  Defeat them, wipe the slate clean and rebuild as a Nice, Pro-Western Consumer Nation.  After the horror of 9/11, this idea was seen as Salvation from a bleak future of entire nations becoming suicide bombers.

Iraq was (technically) secular, had solid oil reserve$ and there was a brief period of optimism about free elections in Arab nations.  But then the Arabs managed to wreck the whole idea ( Hey, the Kurds are happy, at least!). 

We are now operating on Plan B:  wreck the Arab countries so completely, they will fight with each other fanatically Until The End Of Time.  This is an Israeli idea and (somewhat sadly) it is working incredibly well, if you look at Libya and Syria. 

Having highly advanced technology (such as nukes) forces these awful choices on world leaders.  This is where I get a little skeptical about how nasty Illuminati rule the earth.  If they do, some of what they are forced to do needs a degree of forgiveness.  If any of you Aliens are reading this, you should help us out a little here.
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: ArMaP on March 04, 2014, 12:15:26 AM
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on March 03, 2014, 11:47:04 PM
PS the Ukraine is now oficially part of the EU, still think it's not our problem?....
It is? ???
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 04, 2014, 12:33:40 AM
Yes, already, they signed the treaty just before this broke out, talk about a coincidennce, LOL
will update tomorrow, much going on at home, LOL
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: undo11 on March 04, 2014, 12:46:25 AM
Quote from: Eighthman on March 04, 2014, 12:10:06 AM

We are now operating on Plan B:  wreck the Arab countries so completely, they will fight with each other fanatically Until The End Of Time.  This is an Israeli idea and (somewhat sadly) it is working incredibly well, if you look at Libya and Syria. 



actually, that was a deal the leader of the other form of islam made with the american war machine and its money managers.   it appears an entire sect of islam was massacred as were the few remaining christians (mostly catholics since the protestants were killed or chased out awhile ago).   it's social engineering on a global scale.
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: WarToad on March 04, 2014, 01:45:14 AM
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on Today at 04:47:04 PM

    PS the Ukraine is now oficially part of the EU, still think it's not our problem?....

Quote from: ArMaP on March 04, 2014, 12:15:26 AM
It is? ???

Umm.  Yea.  No.  And in it's current flux, not anytime soon.

http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: Ellirium113 on March 04, 2014, 03:41:35 AM
John Baird compares Russia's actions in Ukraine to Nazi invasion of Czechoslovakia

QuoteBaird, speaking to host Evan Solomon on CBC News Network's Power & Politics, accused Russia of invading and occupying Crimea, a part of Ukraine. "If it's not war, it's akin to war," he said.

At first, Baird said the situation was "right out of the Cold War." When Solomon pointed out Putin claims he is protecting Russian rights in Crimea, which has a majority of Russian-speaking citizens, Baird said, "The Sudetenland had a majority of Germans. That gave Germany no right to do this in the late 1930s."

Asked by Solomon if he was making a comparison to the Nazis, Baird replied, "When you have one country invading one of its neighbours, and using this type of outrageous and ludicrous rhetoric, it's hard not to."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-baird-compares-russia-s-actions-in-ukraine-to-nazi-invasion-of-czechoslovakia-1.2558118 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/john-baird-compares-russia-s-actions-in-ukraine-to-nazi-invasion-of-czechoslovakia-1.2558118)

Good thing we had nothing to do with Libya...oh wait yeah we did. Have some egg on your face too Baird. This coming from our defense minister who is in charge of our PEACE KEEPERS.  :P
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 04, 2014, 12:39:33 PM
Yep, it's amazing how many bombs you guys use on a peace mission ::)

Ukraine in or out? i don't know any more, the EU adds a new country every week, seems like half of russia wants to be in the EU, i wonder why?
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: Ellirium113 on March 04, 2014, 11:08:54 PM
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on March 04, 2014, 12:39:33 PM
Yep, it's amazing how many bombs you guys use on a peace mission ::)

It's ok...someone stenciled in "HUMANITARIAN AID" on each of the bombs so it doesn't count.  ;D
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: ArMaP on March 04, 2014, 11:42:28 PM
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on March 04, 2014, 12:39:33 PM
Ukraine in or out? i don't know any more, the EU adds a new country every week
Countries enter the EU after a long process and only when all members accept it.
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 04, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
Quote from: ArMaP on March 04, 2014, 11:42:28 PM
Countries enter the EU after a long process and only when all members accept it.

Since when?
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: ArMaP on March 05, 2014, 12:18:44 AM
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on March 04, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
Since when?
I don't know since when, but I know that's what I remember for all cases of new countries entering the EU.

Portugal presented its candidacy in 1977 and became a full EU member in 1986, after signing a pre-agreement in 1980.
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: Sgt.Rocknroll on March 05, 2014, 12:19:10 AM
Sorry guys, I'm an American, but I don't trust ANY OF EM'.....When push comes to shove...they're all guilty... only the innocents suffer....since the beginning of time...since the beginning of time....
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 05, 2014, 12:59:24 PM
True, our system is quite complex.
There are about 1000 highly paid morons who sit in big chairs in Brussels, read memo's they don't understand, vote on things they don't read & don't care about, and generally leech us dry.
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: ArMaP on March 05, 2014, 01:47:23 PM
Quote from: PlaysWithMachines on March 05, 2014, 12:59:24 PM
There are about 1000 highly paid morons who sit in big chairs in Brussels, read memo's they don't understand, vote on things they don't read & don't care about, and generally leech us dry.
But they produce a huge amount of documents nobody reads. :)
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: PLAYSWITHMACHINES on March 05, 2014, 01:56:10 PM
Yes, i remember when they did a world energy congress, used up 27 trucks full of paper.
Result of that congress; nothing.

Someone said they should have just sent the paper to Africa so they can cook dinner, that would have been doing something towards the energy crisis :D
Title: Re: Seriously, what?!
Post by: Sinny on March 06, 2014, 11:29:42 AM
Leaked EU's Ashton Phone Tape: Kiev Snipers Were Hired by US Supported Opposition Leaders

Quote
On the 20th of February, according to reports, more than twenty protesters were killed by professional snipers. This was not a spontaneous event resulting from clashes between protesters and riot police, nor was it marked by an exchange of gunfire between the police and the Neo-Nazi militia.

The sniper killings had the hallmarks of a carefully planned operation. They happened within 'the space of a few hours". Moreover, the killings coincided with the meetings of President Viktor Yanukovych with a high level EU delegation. In a bitter irony, these targeted killings were used as a pretext to topple the government and issue an arrest warrant directed against president Yanukovych

The following RT report confirms what is already known.  The US Sponsored opposition militia was behind the shooting of civilians on February 20th.

Civilian casualties were part of this staged agenda, with a view to accusing president Yanukovych of "mass murder", thereby providing a justification for regime change on humanitarian grounds.

Read the Report of Russia Today. GR will be releasing additional reports on this issue

Michel Chossudovsky, Global Research,  March 5, 2014

***

The snipers who shot at protesters and police in Kiev were allegedly hired by Maidan leaders, according to a leaked phone conversation between the EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton and Estonian foreign affairs minister, which has emerged online.

"There is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovich, but it was somebody from the new coalition," Paet said during the conversation.

"I think we do want to investigate. I mean, I didn't pick that up, that's interesting. Gosh," Ashton answered.

The call took place after Estonia's Foreign Minister Urmas Paet visited Kiev on February 25 at the peak of clashes between the pro-EU protesters and security forces in the Ukrainian capital.

Paet also recalled his conversation with a doctor who treated those shot by snipers in Kiev. She said that both protesters and police were shot at by the same people.

"And second, what was quite disturbing, this same Olga [Bogomolets] told as well that all the evidence shows that the people who were killed by snipers from both sides, among policemen and then people from the streets, that they were the same snipers killing people from both sides," the Estonian FM stressed.

Ashton reacted to the information by saying: "Well, yeah...that's, that's terrible."

"So that she then also showed me some photos she said that as a medical doctor she can say that it is the same handwriting, the same type of bullets, and it's really disturbing that now the new coalition, that they don't want to investigate what exactly happened," Paet said.

The file was reportedly uploaded to the web by officers of Security Service of Ukraine (SBU) loyal to ousted President Viktor Yanukovich who hacked Paet's and Ashton's phones.


An anti-government protester sit near the bodies of two demonstrators killed by a sniper during clashes with the police in the center of Kiev on February 20, 2014
http://www.globalresearch.ca/leaked-eus-ashton-phone-tape-kiev-snipers-were-hired-by-us-supported-opposition-leaders/5371956