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Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges.

QuoteI haven't posted in a while, but this is blog-worthy material. I've recently become familiar with the thinking of University of Maryland physicist, James Gates Jr. Dr. Gates is working on a branch of physics called supersymmetry. In the process of his work he's discovered the presence of what appear to resemble a form of computer code, called error correcting codes, embedded within, or resulting from, the equations of supersymmetry that describe fundamental particles.

You can read a non-technical description of what Dr. Gates has discovered in this article, which I highly recommend.

In the article, Gates asks, "How could we discover whether we live inside a Matrix? One answer might be 'Try to detect the presence of codes in the laws that describe physics.'" And this is precisely what he has done. Specifically, within the equations of supersymmetry he has found, quite unexpectedly, what are called "doubly-even self-dual linear binary error-correcting block codes." That's a long-winded label for codes that are commonly used to remove errors in computer transmissions, for example to correct errors in a sequence of bits representing text that has been sent across a wire.

Gates explains, "This unsuspected connection suggests that these codes may be ubiquitous in nature, and could even be embedded in the essence of reality. If this is the case, we might have something in common with the Matrix science-fiction films, which depict a world where everything human being's experience is the product of a virtual-reality-generating computer network."

Why are these codes hidden in the laws of fundamental particles? "Could it be that codes, in some deep and fundamental way, control the structure of our reality?," he asks. It's a good question.

http://www.novaspivack.com/uncategorized/is-the-universe-a-computer-new-evidence-emerges

Theoretical Physicist James Gates finds computer code in string theory equation

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QuoteIf you haven't already read my What is reality? article, you may want to before reading on.

Relatively recently, whilst exploring the mathematics of string theory, Theoretical Physicist James Gates and his researcher discovered something rather interesting buried deep within the mathematical equations of super symmetry.

They found computer code.

And it isn't just random 1's and 0's either. Bizarrely, the code they found is code which is used in computer browser operating system software.

Specifically; Block Linear Self Dual Error Correcting Code.



So what does this code do?

Computer code is just instruction for a processor – Information.

When transmitting information from one computer to another, there are fluctuations that happen (static in the line for example), that can alter the original information sent.

Block Linear Self Dual Error Correcting Codes are vital in the exchange of digital information as they monitor code sent and measure it against what's already know, self-adjusting as required in order to accurately transmit and receive the correct information.



Why is this recent discovery interesting?

Super String Theory is an attempt by Scientists to explain reality – Ultimate Reality – The Theory of Everything.

If Theoretical Physicists are finding bits of computer code in their equations, it will likely galvanize further support for the Simulated Universe Hypothesis.



The Theory of which, goes something like this;

We are all living within a (very good) quantum computer simulation that our future Ancestors built.

Just like a computer today, multiple simulations can be run off of the same computer and off of the same program. So if it were the case that our Universe is a simulation as some Scientists believe it is, then we wouldn't be the only simulated Universe; there would surely be many other simulations.

The trouble with such a theory is: How would we ever know if we are living within a computer simulation?

If we can not escape the simulation, how could we ever get to look at it from the outside in?



The Evidence

The more science explores physical reality, the more they become baffled by it.

Physical reality is made up of sub-atomic particles, but when we get down to this level; the laws of Physics change. Rather than finding something we would expect (something ultimately solid), we find particles that are able to exist in different locations at the same time...

Maybe that's because everything has been simulated to give the impression it is here in this solid world when in fact it's not.  Including you and I.

This Simulated Universe theory has got some pretty eminent scientists and physicists as supporters, believers or at least sympathizers.

However, just because a piece of computer code has been discovered within Super Symmetry equations, doesn't necessarily conclude that we are actually living within a computer simulation. It may just be a very lucky coincidence.

But if more and more computer code keeps cropping up in physics equations, then it may indeed suggest that we are.

If our universe is the result of our future ancestors formulating a computer simulation, then the majority of the computer code from which this simulated universe is based on, will likely not (yet) have been discovered.

The irony here is: It may actually be String Theorists who invent, or rather (re)discover some of the code that gets used in creating the Simulated Universe in which we may be living

http://theawakenment.com/theoretical-physicist-james-gates-finds-computer-code-in-string-theory-equation/#sthash.e61P2BxW.dpbs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1LCVknKUJ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1LCVknKUJ4

What is Reality? Are we even real? or Is the World an Illusion?

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One of the most intriguing discoveries of modern science is the conclusion that nothing in this world can be accurately described as being truly 'solid'.

And I am not referring to different states of matter such as when a substance changes its state from a Gas to a Liquid to a Solid, for these are superficial rather than basic states of matter.

All matter, regardless of its state is made up of atoms – which in turn are made up of other particles such as protons, electrons and neutrons, which in turn are made up of other particles called quarks, which in turn are made up of... well... we don't actually know yet as science hasn't yet got that far.

http://theawakenment.com/what-is-reality-are-we-even-real-or-is-the-world-we-see-just-an-illusion/#sthash.EMG7eBKz.r1uGkSpv.dpbs

Good thread.

Don't forget Buddhism, Hinduism and various other mystical systems pretty much agree with this conclusion.  According to mystics the soul or mind is trapped into believing that what the senses tell it is reality.

Quote from: Pimander on April 05, 2015, 03:57:47 AM
Good thread.

Don't forget Buddhism, Hinduism and various other mystical systems pretty much agree with this conclusion.  According to mystics the soul or mind is trapped into believing that what the senses tell it is reality.

Then with reincarnation, are we moving through the different levels of the program?   Akin to working through advancing levels of a game?

Shasta

Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges

No!.......... Absolutely not!

Such thought questions are being expressed on similar bounds of the flat-Earth expressions - knowing questions brought on by guesses of ignorance based upon the physics of the unknown!   IMO of course!! :)

How much do we actually know about physics?

Shasta

Quote from: rdunk on April 06, 2015, 12:05:58 AM
Re: Is the Universe a Computer? New Evidence Emerges

No!.......... Absolutely not!

Such thought questions are being expressed on similar bounds of the flat-Earth expressions - knowing questions brought on by guesses of ignorance based upon the physics of the unknown!   IMO of course!! :)

Look in the mirror !

Quote from: Shasta56 on April 05, 2015, 04:34:42 PM
Then with reincarnation, are we moving through the different levels of the program?   Akin to working through advancing levels of a game?

Shasta

Shasta, in my opinion and from my personal experience yes, we are; as I have shared in other threads, I died from a medical procedure in 1980;

was legally dead for 33 minutes, no pulse, no brain activity,was de-fibbed 8 times before they gave up...

I remember being on the other side of the veil ...

we choose to come here for the experiences; choose what we will experience; the goal is to experience all things, and we are blocked from any memory of the other side unless we choose to remember...

as the monks state, choose memory instead of life...

at the moment of crossing over, do not go into the light. choose instead to wait, and a portal will open that carries you where you need to be...

we each walk our own path, make our own choices; it is up to us to choose wisely...

but that is just my thoughts and opinion on the matter...


seeker

I was nearly dead after surgery in 1999.  My nurse overdosed me on Dilaudid.   I saw Uncle Speck and Uncle Jake standing next to my bed.  They said I could go with them if I wanted to.   My daughter was yelling at me, from far away, to breathe.  She was actually in the room,  but sounded far away.  I didn't see a tunnel or white light, but then, I don't subscribe to that idea.  I know the argument has been raised that NDE's are really just the brain firing randomly as it shuts down.   I think there's more to it than that.

Shasta

Quote from: Shasta56 on April 06, 2015, 12:30:08 AM
How much do we actually know about physics?

Just enough to make us think we know something :P

Well considering "scientists" can't tell when life begins and when someone is actually dead it makes perfect sense that they could not understand what reality is either. What if it is merely an elaborate Schladney pattern that only exits due to a vibration in another dimension?  :P

Quote from: Shasta56 on April 06, 2015, 02:59:04 PM
I know the argument has been raised that NDE's are really just the brain firing randomly as it shuts down.   I think there's more to it than that.

Of course there is more to it than that.  The big question is what.

That the Universe behaves as though it is a computer program sometimes makes sense even in classical physics terms because mathematics and also what we observe is data and data is what computer software use to operate.  Does the Universe just behave that way or is it really a computer simulation?  How can we know?

WHERE exactly is the Universe Located in the realm of ALL?  ??? (Many on Earth believe to be their ONLY Reality.)

Can ANYONE tell you WHERE this little Universe is.
Even most scientist believe we all exist in a huge Universe, but most forget that what you see
and interact with, is a tiny little 'Holograph' in the 'Visual Cortex' of each brain.

WHY Assume that what you experience in the 'Visual Cortex', and its associated areas
is the same as Outside the processing system of the brain ?   :o
And Not just Data, being decoded in the brain ?

The software in a Gaming package, looks nothing like what is displayed on your computer screen or 'X Box'.

So too, is the case with the human 'Avatar' in its Environment.

But 1st we need to Identify what LIFE actually is.

Some Scientists suggest that LIFE itself, (A conscious sate) is Independent of the brain, while others argue the fact ? ? ?

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on April 07, 2015, 08:50:10 AM
is the same as Outside the processing system of the brain ?   :o
And Not just Data, being decoded in the brain ?

Decoding of data is what computer software does.  But what receives the decoded data?  Memory right.

So memory is where the information resides.  The Akashic record or memory is where the "image" of the universe we recognise exists.

100% Correct Pimander

The Data or Memory exists in a 'Conceptual Processing System' constructed on 'Concepts' delivered via Communication
(Geometric Expression) between the 'Ends' of Conscious like Awareness, which is just other words
for LIFE.

But sadly with many experiencing the Earth Program, fall in to the error of thinking, the Experience
i.e. their body is LIFE.  :(

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on April 07, 2015, 09:44:27 PM
100% Correct Pimander

The Data or Memory exists in a 'Conceptual Processing System' constructed on 'Concepts' delivered via Communication
(Geometric Expression) between the 'Ends' of Conscious like Awareness, which is just other words
for LIFE.

But sadly with many experiencing the Earth Program, fall in to the error of thinking, the Experience
i.e. their body is LIFE.  :(

So I'm guessing the conceptual processing system would reside in a nonvolatile memory and what we experience would be in volatile memory. Each time the game restarts it is a different game running on the same engine.

100% Correct Ellirium ...   :)

Quote from: Pimander on April 07, 2015, 01:42:46 PM
Decoding of data is what computer software does.  But what receives the decoded data?  Memory right.

So memory is where the information resides.  The Akashic record or memory is where the "image" of the universe we recognise exists.

So Pi, do you have any specific factual evidence or photos of this to share with us, or................. is it just an assumption that there is nothing "physical" anywhere, on this planet nor in the universe??

For me, it is way beyond a stretch to give any consideration of belief that this Universe is anything other than what it materialistically and over time reveals to us, as we (man) studies it.

Certainly size is a dimensionally relative thing for sure, but dealing with known sizes, we pretty well know the general basics of our solar system, and its relativity of the Sun and planets within it. Our Sun is not a lifeless computer generated program. The Sun is alive, and there is a multitude of ways we KNOW that to be true! Even our human bodies are "designed" to synergistically respond to the Sun's rays in various ways to promote man's health and life. Same can be said for most all plants and animals.

No, we do not have to go to the edge of the known Universe to know that what we see, hear, feel, and know as common knowledge is materially real! And that is.....even though our minds and knowledge of what we refer to as "the Universe" is so small that a lot of people spend time in trying to propose that it is something it is not, and receive receptive understanding from we know-nothings.

Somebody here simply reach down and touch the dirt you are standing on - better yet, take off your shoes and feel the dirt between your toes - even dirt has "LIFE" in it, not a computer program!! :)

There are a lot of things that remain unknown to a lot of we folks, but at the very least, the reality of the "dirt we know" should be real to all of us! And, still for sure, we all can go to Home Depot and buy more dirt if we happen to need more!! :))

QuoteThe Sun is alive, and there is a multitude of ways we KNOW that to be true!

WHAT is LIFE ? (in your interpretation)

QuoteSomebody here simply reach down and touch the dirt you are standing on - better yet, take off your shoes and feel the dirt between your toes - even dirt has "LIFE" in it, not a computer program!! :)

Our computer programs simply are not that complex yet. We are getting there very quickly take for example this video (don't need to watch it all). Observe the landscape and animals etc. Picture where this is going to be 10 years from now. Will you be able to visually distinguish this from reality?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clakekAHQx0

Now if this sort of gaming technology at some point gets combined with programs that affect other senses or to stretch it even a tad further...that interface directly with the brain it will become more difficult to distinguish. It is not so hard to grasp the concept. Only to grasp the complexity of OUR program.

Ellirum113, much of the problem now is related to the fact that various computer programs, especially games, tend to mimic to the maximum extent possible the actual dirt reality of known everyday things, and everyday life. So, of course as these become more seeable real, as they have, then at some point some are going to start trying to make the unreal into a/the "figment of reality" - but in fact it will never be, except in the own minds of those who are misled to the point of acceptance. :)

The 'WORD' is the processing Language, in LIFE's 1st person experiences.

Those experiencing the earth program, are trying to copy/mimic such in vain.

We should learn more about The 'WORD' and expand our experiences using the Programs,
LIFE has already Created, through The WORD.

The word, 'WORD' means Communication !

Carl Jung - Face to Face

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPGMWF7kU_8

And before you say that he said he believed in a mythological god, think again.

Thank you RUSSO, for presenting this video clip. I very much enjoyed it and strongly recommend to others
to watch and listen to it also.

Quote from: rdunk on April 07, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
So Pi, do you have any specific factual evidence or photos of this to share with us, or................. is it just an assumption that there is nothing "physical" anywhere, on this planet nor in the universe??

It is not an assumption based on nothing.  It is based on quantum physics is the best way I can explain it.  This deserves a whole thread but, in brief you need to understand some basic physics concepts.  I have highlighted in bold type the crucial points.


Nonlocality: (https://theobservereffect.wordpress.com/an-introduction-to-quantum-physics/)   Nonlocality describes the fact that objects created out of some initially mixed (or common) state will remain correlated and instantaneously "communicate" with each other even when separated by large distances. Nonlocality postulates a principle of holistic interconnectedness operating at the quantum level, contradicting the localistic assumptions of classical, Newtonian physics.[/color]


The Uncertainty Principle (Heisenberg): (https://theobservereffect.wordpress.com/an-introduction-to-quantum-physics/)    The Uncertainty Principle states that both the position and the momentum of a particle cannot be simultaneously and precisely measured. The more precisely the position (or momentum) of a particle is measured, the less precisely one can measure what its momentum (or position) might be. This principle has profound implications for both the classical concept of cause-and-effect and the determinacy of past and future events.

There is also the results of the double slit experiment (https://theobservereffect.wordpress.com/the-most-beautiful-experiment/) which seems to force us to abandon the idea of a photon (or light particle) — or any other quantum system — as having a location in spacetime until it is observed.

QuoteSomebody here simply reach down and touch the dirt you are standing on - better yet, take off your shoes and feel the dirt between your toes - even dirt has "LIFE" in it, not a computer program!! :)

But is the memory, or experience of the event is real then it is real.  Does it make any difference to the experience that the event is just data?  All of our experience is data.  The data is real.  In that sense so is "life", whatever you define life as.


I don't think that animism (that al is alive) and the simulation theory are mutually exclusive.

Rdunk you have some tough skin mate LOL

Did anyone see the recent thread on ATS about the NSA?

There is a dude on there harrowing the "OP NSA GUY" about this very matter which is being discussed here.  His website is here:

https://universalbri.wordpress.com/author/universalbri/

^The above person started posting a few or more page's into the thread and Skeptick Overlord seemed to vouch for this guy on this thread:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1062842/pg1

I still maintain that at the end of the day not many people answer the question of why this experience on this planet called Earth is the way it is.  Why is this experience WE ALL SHARE no matter what we believe so bloody confusing ?  :o   :-X :-X :-X

QuoteI still maintain that at the end of the day not many people answer the question of why this experience on this planet called Earth is the way it is.  Why is this experience WE ALL SHARE no matter what we believe so bloody confusing ?  :o   :-X :-X :-X

The reason being we all have "Double Logic" in our human Genome. We are always confronted with
2 Opposite Answers, (Yes & No) hence some reverting to blind belief.

Q. Why do we have Double Logic in out Genome ?
A. There came 200 Aliens to this planet 5 to 6,000 years ago who fornicated with the woman on earth.
These 200 aliens were of Hermaphrodite species. The result produced through crossbreeding
produced the double logic in the human Genome.

Q.  Why was this permitted.
A.  Part of the program bring about changes within our individual Processing System which both generates
and presents the programs we experience.

In order for the Software Upgrades to be uploaded to our individual Processors, we had to forget everything
and initiate the download by 1st asking out outer End. (Choice or Free Will Involved)

LIFE never forces anything but always retains freedom of choice.

The 'Double Logic' came in by choice 5 to 6 thousand years ago and affects all of us.

It was the choice made by EVE according to biblical writings, and you will probably find similar scenarios
in other ancient writings using different names and stories.

CAIN was said to be the 1st offspring of EVE who was born of the Wicked One (A Hermaphrodite Alien)
Thus the crime EVE committed wasn't just Intercourse but instead Adultery !

CAIN received the 'Mark', (Mark of the Beast) according to the writings.

The Books of E'NOCH, (Not accepted by the Cannon, because they are the ones trying to hide this knowledge)
E'NOCH reports that 200 of these Aliens came to the earth and committed adultery in many cases and fornication
in other cases producing a wide range of bizarre offspring due to genetic mismatching etc. hence the Giants etc.
E'NOCH gives the name of the Leaders of these Aliens.
They weren't spirits or anything else because only flesh can copulate with flesh.

It is when we Complete the 'Books' (Program Books) re. the Earth, that we enter a different experience
void of this 'Double Logic' biblical writings refer to as the mark of the beast or the 666 Algorithm.
This is why we are confused, get ill, and why we die.  :(

The final frontier - a horizon guide to the universe.

Dr Kaku gives a possible explanation of how the  Universe & big Bang may have came to be, suggesting that there was something before the big bang...with a good ref to some of Matrix's Nothing is actually Something theory.

He visits the NASA's Worlds Largest Vacuum chamber  (The Space Power Facility in Ohio) where he describes how they pump out all the air and matter molecules etc to create almost space like conditions on Earth with an almost perfect vacuum. Then explains how once the vacuum is created and that we may think of it as now being almost complete nothingness...that it depends upon how one thinks of or determines as  "Nothing".

He goes on then to explain about it as having dimension and properties within the boundaries of the Vacuum chamber...of which light can travel through..so there for this "Nothing" is in fact something.!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Power_Facility

(http://www.apgsensors.com/sites/default/files/blog-images/nasa-chamber-a.jpg)

(http://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/images/content/115304main_SolarSail_video.jpg)

see from 51minutes 54 secs.



http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1r84cr_the-final-frontier-a-horizon-guide-to-the-universe_lifestyle

So...

If you HACK the System...  and reprogram it...

...would that make you GOD?

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Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2015, 10:26:28 PM
So...

If you HACK the System...  and reprogram it...

...would that make you GOD?

(http://www.xfacts.com/old/ufo1-christ_compressed.jpg)

IF as is reported in the bible Ye are gods, How can one become a god
IF we are already gods?   :)


The Gospel According to John Chapter 10 verse 34

34.
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?   :)


The Acts of the Apostles Chapter 17 verse 28

28. For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said,
for we are also his offspring.

I would have to question if the Universe was a Computer like Program...

How & why was that created ?

What created it ?

If its a Program , its a like or a form of a System...

If all that comes about from starting from the Nothing becoming something and evolving from that to what we have today...Is it purely down to fate as to what we experience now..or is there some form of design & development to it ?

QuoteSo...

If you HACK the System...  and reprogram it...

...would that make you GOD?

Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2015, 10:26:28 PM
So...

If you HACK the System...  and reprogram it...

...would that make you GOD?

(http://www.xfacts.com/old/ufo1-christ_compressed.jpg)

If the reality is a program, probably the programmers would just delete you in that case. :P

The funny thing is, if this is a simulated "world", everything is possible, even a programed god and a digital diablo ;D. It all depends of what the guys that did it have had as a purpose.

As an agnostic, my view is nothing exists until it can be observed and proved.

QuoteIf all that comes about from starting from the Nothing becoming something

But 'Nothing' is Something, or you would NOT be able to relate to word Nothing !    :)

That is WHY the Word NOTHING is in your Dictionary.   ;)

Because 'Nothing' is Something the 2,

a.     'Nothing'
and
b.    'Something'.

Can't be totally separated ....

It's NOT possible to have one without the other.

They exist as a Pair !

It's a 'Paradox' !

Its this Paradox which provided an 'Astable State'.... The 1st Abstract 'Oscillation'.   :)

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on April 09, 2015, 10:52:31 PM
IF as is reported in the bible Ye are gods, How can one become a god
IF we are already gods?   :)


The Gospel According to John Chapter 10 verse 34

34.
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?   :)


The Acts of the Apostles Chapter 17 verse 28

28. For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said,
for we are also his offspring.

The LDS Church teaches that its members can become gods.  But if we began as part of The Creator, then are all already The Creator.   We just don't realize it.

Shasta

Quote from: Shasta56 on April 10, 2015, 12:23:35 AM
The LDS Church teaches that its members can become gods.  But if we began as part of The Creator, then are all already The Creator.   We just don't realize it.

Shasta

Shasta - Adam, our forefather, was not created as a God! Adam was created by God, and was the "created" "Son of God" (ref. Luke 3:38). Then Jesus became the only begotten Son of God.

Now, to take that to the next level, who are we?? Well, we all are descendants of Adam, and we are not Gods either. But Adam's disobedience brought sin and death to himself, to man, and to all of his descendants, of the which we are.

Now Jesus is the focal point for what had to be done to make a way for man to overcome what Adam did. Jesus, who was God's Son, became a man, as God's only begotten son. And, God allowed Jesus to be sacrificed in a way that spiritually gained forgiveness of sin for all of man, but each of us has to accept Jesus and that forgiveness in order to receive it. And in doing so, a man becomes a Christian, which means Christ-like. And being Christ-like, "the Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God, and if children, then heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ........ Romans 8:16-17)

So briefly, for  Christians, this is how man/we can become "God-like"! :)

A'DAM was NOT MAN !

A'DAM is a Primate.

IF A'DAM was a SOUL he would NOT have experienced Death !

MAN is a living SOUL NOT a Primate.

The 'Tree of A'DAM' stole the 'Title' of MAN !

The tree of A'DAM which you are of is a PRIMATE NOT a SOUL.

The SON of MAN is NOT the Carpenter ! And NOT of the Tree of A'DAM ! No matter what you want to believe.

The Canon in their evil ways would have you believe otherwise !

Quote from: Somamech on April 08, 2015, 06:41:35 PM
I still maintain that at the end of the day not many people answer the question of why this experience on this planet called Earth is the way it is.  Why is this experience WE ALL SHARE no matter what we believe so bloody confusing ?  :o   :-X :-X :-X

I found it vastly more comprehensible when I took into account the fact that money and top-down controlmind lure and promote psychopaths.  Suddenly the "crazy" shite made all too much sense.

Quote from: The Matrix Traveller on April 08, 2015, 12:25:25 AM
The 'WORD' is the processing Language, in LIFE's 1st person experiences.

Those experiencing the earth program, are trying to copy/mimic such in vain.

We should learn more about The 'WORD' and expand our experiences using the Programs,
LIFE has already Created, through The WORD.

The word, 'WORD' means Communication !

Have you been able to expand your experiences? Why is the program so negative? Even the very rich and the animals are miserable mostly. people who seem to have it all kill themselves.

Is it because there is a positive and negative Earth experience also and we are on the negative one?

Quote from: Dyna on April 10, 2015, 11:43:19 PM
Have you been able to expand your experiences? Why is the program so negative? Even the very rich and the animals are miserable mostly. people who seem to have it all kill themselves.

Is it because there is a positive and negative Earth experience also and we are on the negative one?

This is a very good point...

This is only my initial thoughts on the point that you make...Most of us are not very rich to know what its like and to experience it..so it may not be possible to really make a comparison unless we get to experience being very rich.

It may be that the majority of even the 1st World are mainly just well off enough to be reasonably satisfied and comfortable with their existence / Life'style..and may not be greatly miserable..even though most of us whine and complain..but most do go through life having to work 40 hrs or more a week 45 to 48  weeks a year for numerous (25 to 50 )years..to obtain that life style...which is one of the downsides to it...and many may strive to try to become rich but will usually face huge obstacles and lots of time in trying to achieve it, unless we are gifted lucky or just have the drive and persistance to keep on trying..

We do read about or see in the news of some rich people who die early or kill themselves, but I am sure that there are many numerous Rich people who are in a comfortable position in their life and do get to  have better experiences & enjoy their life's much more than the majority of people.

The Downside for the rich maybe that if money is a issue.. that may create a lot of problems for them to try to protect that lifestyle..and they probably have a lot more that they have to do in order to preserve it and maybe more targeted to potential threats.

I am also guessing that the richer people on the whole are the more intelligent and that they can deal with such things better....BUT they may also have a lot of cleverer people that they have to deal with who may be more of a threat to them.

so it may be just a case no matter where we are in Life we still have a lot of things that we have to worry or be concerned about..and that much of our time gets taken up having to think about stuff that may not leave us as Free as we would like to be..

But I am also sure that there are some that have almost an ultimate lifestyle that we dream about..
Lucky people they may be..

I also wonder about us all being graded in some way.
If we take Boxers for eg...The Lightweight, Middle weight and Heavy Weights....

Most box in their weight group..

ON average it would be unlikely that a Lightweight could beat a heavy weight..(within the rules of boxing)even if that Lightweight is a superior fighter...
(The Lightweight MAY beat the heavy weight in a real fight with no rules) but overall on Average I think the heavy weights would rule..

I also wonder is this the same in our Mental States/Strengths and what we are capable of being able to achieve...Maybe some of us are just limited to0 much.

If so these are Questions that I wonder as to why this is...But it seems like Darwin's theory of the fittest or maybe strongest most Intelligent survive or do better in Life on an average..I think one aggression levels in the past maybe more so would also be something that made a difference in survival or success in life.

For some of us we may realise this very early on maybe dependent upon what we get taught in Life.
For others they may not fully understand this until they are much older..


IF the poor becomes rich, they may not be able to deal with it too easy..and it may become to much mentally to deal with for some..

BUT I am sure many of us would like to give it a try !  :P

QuoteEven the very rich and the animals are miserable mostly. people who seem to have it all kill themselves.

Is it because there is a positive and negative Earth experience also and we are on the negative one?

ALL is created on or involving the 'Opposites' !

One can NOT exist without the other....


It's what enables 'Choice' or 'Fee Will'. (Freedom)

It is the 'Paradox Algorithm', which produces this Phenomena.

You have the ability to choose either the negative or the positive.

Just as, is the case in electricity.

We have Electron flow ( - to + ) in one direction,
and Current flow ( + to - ) in the Opposite Direction.   :)

We live in a paradox of choice; you cannot have light without dark, cannot know love without experiencing hate; the scales must balance...

yes, there is such a thing as too much, of anything; the neutral or balance point,i.e. the middle of the road, is the preferred path to travel...

the rich, un-happy people cannot achieve peace because they are self-serving and focused only on themselves, neither caring who they use or take advantage of to reach their chosen goals, only to find themselves alone except for those in competition for or interested in what they have instead of who they are...

you can always choose to change the path you are on...


seeker

Quote from: rdunk on April 10, 2015, 03:12:05 AM
Shasta - Adam, our forefather, was not created as a God! Adam was created by God, and was the "created" "Son of God" (ref. Luke 3:38). Then Jesus became the only begotten Son of God.

Now, to take that to the next level, who are we?? Well, we all are descendants of Adam, and we are not Gods either. But Adam's disobedience brought sin and death to himself, to man, and to all of his descendants, of the which we are.

Now Jesus is the focal point for what had to be done to make a way for man to overcome what Adam did. Jesus, who was God's Son, became a man, as God's only begotten son. And, God allowed Jesus to be sacrificed in a way that spiritually gained forgiveness of sin for all of man, but each of us has to accept Jesus and that forgiveness in order to receive it. And in doing so, a man becomes a Christian, which means Christ-like. And being Christ-like, "the Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God, and if children, then heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ........ Romans 8:16-17)

So briefly, for  Christians, this is how man/we can become "God-like"! :)

Rdunk, thank you for your words.   I referenced what I was told when I was studying Mormonism.  I was learning more about that part of my family.   I learned plenty of Catholicism when I was growing up.  My path now, is where I am supposed to be.  A disciple of Bast and a child of Loki.  Recognizing Lord's presence in my life made the years of chaos make sense.  He teaches through chaos.  I am content and blessed in my path.  May you be so in yours as well.

Shasta

Hi Matrix,

You may have said in some of your past posts somewhere at one time, I wonder if you can remind us or if not maybe explain.

Can I ask do you know what sort of Aliens (Other than them being classed as Hermaphrodite..what type of species) that they may have been that visited Earth 5 to 6000 yrs ago.

I assume for eg you do not suggest they were reptilians, Grey's or a non human like type of  species, but were maybe more of a Human like species at least in their appearance.

Were  they a species that you claim to have been in contact with..and Do you think that  they may still be  on Earth or maybe somewhere on a nearby Planet in their original form ?

Do you know Where  they came from ? as well as also the species that you were in contact with ?

QuoteQ. Why do we have Double Logic in out Genome ?
A. There came 200 Aliens to this planet 5 to 6,000 years ago who fornicated with the woman on earth.
These 200 aliens were of Hermaphrodite species. The result produced through crossbreeding
produced the double logic in the human Genome.                   

Quote from: astr0144 on April 12, 2015, 07:32:44 PM
Hi Matrix,

You may have said in some of your past posts somewhere at one time, I wonder if you can remind us or if not maybe explain.

Can I ask do you know what sort of Aliens (Other than them being classed as Hermaphrodite..what type of species) that they may have been that visited Earth 5 to 6000 yrs ago.

I assume for eg you do not suggest they were reptilians, Grey's or a non human like type of  species, but were maybe more of a Human like species at least in their appearance.

Were  they a species that you claim to have been in contact with..

NO.
(Never assume anything !)

Astr0:

Quoteand Do you think that  they may still be on Earth or maybe somewhere on a nearby Planet in their original form ?

Still on Earth, claimed by some.

Astr0:

QuoteDo you know Where  they came from ? as well as also the species that you were in contact with ?

YES.

All is reported in 'The A'DAM Books', 'The Books of E'NOCH', biblical writings, and other Ancient writings...

Go to our local University and research through the 'philosophy' and 'theology' departments.

I think unless one is of the knowledge or mindset to fully have faith in such writings, that would be a very hard task to consider...and would need over my lifetime to research based upon an Average persons ability.

I was initially in the belief that you had obtained your Facts from meeting with the E.Ts rather than from a belief from Ancient Writings.

QuoteYES.

All is reported in 'The A'DAM Books', 'The Books of E'NOCH', biblical writings, and other Ancient writings...

Go to our local University and research through the 'philosophy' and 'theology' departments.

Astr0

QuoteI was initially in the belief that you had obtained your Facts from meeting with the E.Ts rather than from a belief from Ancient Writings.

? ? ?

NOT the Case at all !

No matter what you believe, doesn't change the following;

From the downloading of Program 'Updates' involving my Independent 'Processing System',
(some Ancients referred to as the Soul) education involving the new 'Processing System',
also involved contact with others in this universe/s ....

Read my past posts from some years ago on Peggy, and you will find that I have previously mentioned this in them.   :)

Astro, you can spend what time you are able, doing the research that Matrix suggested, or you can spend the rest of your lifetime never starting on it.

Shasta

Thanks for confirming Matrix,

I will try to find that info with ref to ETs.
I do recall you wrote somethings about them..
but I was not sure if what you said about them visiting Earth 6000 yrs ago was from Ancient writings or your meeting with them..and if my memory serves me right I do not think that was clarified...I think you wrote various parts about them in your various threads..so it may be tricky to find the specific details I was searching for...but its better try and search on PRC than having to go to the Local University  :)

As far as I am aware, I may be the only one to actually ask you about such a topic..I am disappointed that more members are not more curious and ask you more questions about them.

With ref to what you refer to using the process system  to download what you say is program updates...You refer to YOUR "Independent Processing system" education...and a NEW "Processing system" to be able to contact the E.Ts..

I recall you writing a lot about the Processing system to describe and explain about it, But I also recall you saying that you were going to show us how to access and make us of it..which I do not think you have covered as yet where we as your followers have actually been able to do it..
Other than maybe Somamech who at least managed to create the device you described to be able to at least view his Process system or Soul..

I have not as yet come across any other members who may have said about them downloading such programs from their processing system.

If not, again I would have hoped some other members who do acknowledge and follow you and seem keen to learn, that they may have asked you more about it..

Can I ask have you already covered that in the relative detail we would require or will you do so in the future soon ?

It may be that If I don't ask, no one else may do so for some time..

QuoteFrom the downloading of Program 'Updates' involving my Independent 'Processing System',
(some Ancients referred to as the Soul) education involving the new 'Processing System',
also involved contact with others in this universe/s ....

Read my past posts from some years ago on Peggy, and you will find that I have previously mentioned this in them.   :)

Astr0 you clearly haven't understood anything I have been writing about !   :(

Quote from: astr0144 on April 13, 2015, 04:06:39 PM


I recall you writing a lot about the Processing system to describe and explain about it, But I also recall you saying that you were going to show us how to access and make us of it..which I do not think you have covered as yet where we as your followers have actually been able to do it..
Other than maybe Somamech who at least managed to create the device you described to be able to at least view his Process system or Soul..

I have not as yet come across any other members who may have said about them downloading such programs from their processing system.

If not, again I would have hoped some other members who do acknowledge and follow you and seem keen to learn, that they may have asked you more about it..

Can I ask have you already covered that in the relative detail we would require or will you do so in the future soon ?

It may be that If I don't ask, no one else may do so for some time..

Understanding the concept of how it works is one thing. Actually getting a handle on how it all interacts is difficult. It is even harder to make any attempt to re-program because we don't understand the language, we can't slow the program down to reverse engineer or understand it better, we don't SEE the program just the results. Even if you understood how the individual neurons in your head work could you command them to do as you want? This is not something there is a straight forwards user manual for. I see Matrix's attempts to explain normally runs into stumbling blocks as people try to fit it in with their various belief systems. I feel this is something that may take years to comprehend even at higher levels of understanding.

Only the Outer End of the Mind can change things while the Absolute Centre End experiences the changes.

However there is a 'Communication Format' I was going to release, which enables a 'Dialogue' with the Outer End
of our Mind which if agrees with our request changes our experience.

What we believe to be a Huge universe, is only a little 'Hologram' in the Visual Cortex, and NOT
where most believe it to be.

And even then we can only detect in scans only ad incomplete Image/s in the Visual Cortex of the brain.

That might explain the wide variety of differences in perception.

Shasta

Quote from: Shasta56 on April 19, 2015, 12:48:33 PM
That might explain the wide variety of differences in perception.

Shasta

Indeed.....  You are 100% Correct !   :)

It's nice to be right about something.   I was wrong about being over the rotten snottin plague my grandkids so generously shared.   :-\

Shasta

Astro said, "As far as I am aware, I may be the only one to actually ask you about such a topic..I am disappointed that more members are not more curious and ask you more questions about them".

Astro, some, including me, consider The Matrix to be so far off from reality, it is not even funny. I for sure won't be asking him any questions, as I have his posts purposely blocked, so that I don't even see them any more.  Of course he is free to post as he wishes, but blindly accepting what he offers is very dangerous, in my opinion. It is like - his instructions on how to build a "voodoo doll", except it is called a "processing system", with mirrors, charts and diagrams"!

Scientists now pretty much accept as fact that this Universe, and the real life in it, have been created by intelligence way beyond our imagination, and having to get UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWLEDGE from a cardboard box, smoke, and mirrors apparatus processing system is beyond ludicrous, for that level of intelligence. I understand the Matrix has his reasons, but so does the Witch Doctor- and Matrix's often quoting of Bible scripture (or partially quoting it), simply adds to making his comments "have a look of reality", "like bait on a hook", IMO!

Be careful! :)

Quote from: rdunk on April 20, 2015, 03:12:21 AM
Astro said, "As far as I am aware, I may be the only one to actually ask you about such a topic..I am disappointed that more members are not more curious and ask you more questions about them".

Yes that IS unfortunate  and can be frustrating for a poster who wishes to share anything.  It is for this reason that we attempted to create PRIVATE rooms(boards) for people who ARE interested to discuss, ask questions and learn without the NOISE of those who have other beliefs.

However since the member base is so small at the moment, there are very few people to divide interest into these groups  and in fact any new member is not even aware that these special interest groups exist  (My fault since the IG Snafu and meltdown I have had little desire to promote it)

That will change  and private groups will from now on be by INVITE ONLY even if that means only one or two participate.

A forum can be two things  A free for all where anything goes {Like GLP) or a place to get information and share what you know based on topics. We tried to set it up here to accommodate BOTH  but it seems even the heads of those private groups are not content to stay inside LOL


That said.... The Mystic Area will be 100% invite only by the weekend.  Religion of every type seems to dominate the recent posts list despite our best efforts.  Seems people cannot ignore topics they have no interest in and feel the need to engage :P

QuoteAstro, some, including me, consider The Matrix to be so far off from reality, it is not even funny. I for sure won't be asking him any questions, as I have his posts purposely blocked, so that I don't even see them any more.

THIS is a very unfair and downright RUDE comment.  It is fair game to debate a persons offered belief and material, but addressing a person that you say you have blocked in a public thread is downright cowardly.  It is not up to you to decide what other should or should not show interest in. Many do not share your views on Religion either  but talking about someone like he isn't in the same room is really awful etiquette.

QuoteOf course he is free to post as he wishes, but blindly accepting what he offers is very dangerous, in my opinion. It is like - his instructions on how to build a "voodoo doll", except it is called a "processing system", with mirrors, charts and diagrams"!

Yes he is free to post what he wishes  and you are free not to listen. You are free to state your opinion about his beliefs but when does opinion border on harassment?  You tell me where that line is.

You too speak of a "processing system"  :P I see it everytime you blindly quote words out of a book that has been so edited and retranslated that it is a book of riddles... yet we don't call it a "Voodoo" guide no matter how brainwashed you are by it.

Quote- and Matrix's often quoting of Bible scripture (or partially quoting it), simply adds to making his comments "have a look of reality", "like bait on a hook", IMO!

I too quote scripture a lot... That is because it is so easy to interpret those words in so many ways.  I guess we will just have to warn people about your version as being dangerous too eh?  I mean look at history... speaks for itself :D

QuoteBe careful! :)

Yes by all means be careful... but don't EVER be afraid to ask questions. That is why you were given a BRAIN by whatever Force rules the Cosmos.  That guy in that Old Booke just wants you to blindly obey...  I guess that Serpent really messed up his plan to keep yawl ignorant :D

Quote from: zorgon on April 21, 2015, 01:52:17 AM
It is for this reason that we attempted to create PRIVATE rooms(boards) for people who ARE interested to discuss, ask questions and learn without the NOISE of those who have other beliefs.

So we would have to believe in the subject matter which we are trying to learn before we can participate?

QuoteReligion of every type seems to dominate the recent posts list despite our best efforts.

I thought it was only viewable to those who wanted to view it?

QuoteSeems people cannot ignore topics they have no interest in and feel the need to engage :P

Surely if they had no interest in the subject they wouldn't be engaging in the subject?

QuoteTHIS is a very unfair and downright RUDE comment.  It is fair game to debate a persons offered belief and material, but addressing a person that you say you have blocked in a public thread is downright cowardly.
but talking about someone like he isn't in the same room is really awful etiquette.
Yes he is free to post what he wishes and you are free not to listen. You are free to state your opinion about his beliefs but when does opinion border on harassment?  You tell me where that line is.

What goes around come's around, apparently  :P

But I digress;

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