Pegasus Research Consortium

Greetings:

Here's a real opportunity for serious researchers, debunkers, theologians, detractors, dissemblers and just us plain folks to work together to get to the truth of a matter that appears to be of great concern to millions of concerned citizens of our beloved Planet Earth (our only home) worldwide.

Please, instead of a knee-jerk reaction immediately offering an 'opinion' generated out of thin air because of personal dissatisfaction with the OP or yawning to show lack of consideration and ignorance, perhaps this event will have the unique ability to focus our outstanding research abilities to get to the TRUTH.

There seems to be a certain amount of 'buzz' on the Internet regarding the 23-24 September 2015 time period.

We will attempt to sort through the 'white noise' and investigate the possibility of this to be real and what, if anything, the world governments can do and are doing in regard to this potential ELE event.

Among other things, religion has it's sights on this day - September 23, 2015...YOM KIPPUR...The Day Of Atonement...Rdunk, this is right up your alley.   :P

And perhaps what One might consider in the way of 'prepping' should that be of interest. Perhaps Zorgon could weigh in here.

We welcome all quality input to assist in the research and find out the truth on this one.   :P

At least, because of Jade Helm 15, 'appropriate government agencies' and the military(s) will have mobilized a great many resources. It will be interesting to see if those resources are prepositioned in the right place.


For your consideration:


Published on Dec 7, 2014

A certain chaplain from the Alaskan pipeline made friends with many of the ruling elite.

He was told that the elite consider themselves to be gentlemen, and think not informing the general public of their plans is unsportsmanlike – that they need to tell the people so they use news and movies to put forth their fair warning.

Are we expecting the world elite to come out on worldwide television and say, "There's a meteor coming"?

No. Instead they're going to do it very subtly. This makes them feel empowered to see their victims totally helpless and unable to prevent their own demise after given fair warning.

So, have the elite given us fair warning that there's a meteor coming? Have they?

On May 13, 2014, the French foreign minister publicly said THREE TIMES, "We have 500 days to avoid climate chaos." In his first announcement, he said, "The planet also means very concretely OUR VERY SURVIVAL.

We are, all of you know it, on the edge of a climatic ABYSS. In face, we have 500 days to avoid climate chaos."

This was the public announcement to the world of what is coming on September 24, 2015, the end of the 500 day count, when the Abyss will open and the days of darkness will begin. I personally came to this date of September 24, 2015, as the start of the "days of darkness" using only the Bible.

I came to this conclusion 3 ½ MONTHS before this public announcement was made by the foreign minister of France in a press conference at the White House with John Kerry by his side. I am not the only person whom the Lord has been leading to the Day of Atonement in 2015 – there are many others as well. Please read my book or listen to me reading the book on the video links below.

Please share this information with everyone you know because the time is very short now and millions of souls are in the valley of decision and eternity is at stake. God Bless you!





E. L. E. Coming? Asteroid Warning, Govt Preps Underground Bases & "Extinction Protocol" (http://allnewspipeline.com/ELE_Coming_Asteroid_Warning_Govt.php)

By Susan Duclos
January 4, 2015

[...]
On to the other issues, such as the question of whether we are facing and E.L.E (Extinction Level Event) and whether said event is the reason behind the massive preparations being made by the US government by stocking up deep underground military bases across the US?

As pointed out by ANP co-owner Live Free or Die (http://allnewspipeline.com/30_Days_Of_Fire_In_Heavens_Coming.php), the article discussing NASA's revelations of incoming asteroids, uses terms such as "as "alter life as we know it", "destroying cities and knocking out transport and communication networks", "real show stoppers" and "civilization-stopper", which all appear to qualify as an E.L.E.

The information on the rushed last-minute stocking of underground bases, many detailed at the Bob Fletcher Investigations website here (http://www.bobfletcherinvestigations.com/underground-hideouts.html), came from a very high level military source, shared with The Hawk by Greg Evensen.

(discussed here (http://allnewspipeline.com/Hawk_Deep_Underground_Bases_Being_Prepared.php)) and confirmed to me by another source just this morning who spoke to Evensen to verify.


There have been an uncanny number of scientists and researchers who have mysteriously died over the last 15 years, extensively documented by Steve Quayle from 1994-2003 here (http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=145) and from 2004-2014 here (http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=146), many of which were astronomers, as is addressed in an ANP article here asking "Is This Why The Astronomers Died? (http://allnewspipeline.com/Is_This_Why_The_Astronomers_Died.php)",  bringing up the obvious question of what they knew, what they were studying, and if the deaths are "coincidental" or if they discovered something that caused their early demise.

It is also noteworthy that in late 2013 (http://news.yahoo.com/global-effort-needed-defend-earth-asteroids-astronauts-tell-144820255.html), multiple media outlets reported that the UN was hearing evidence on why a program needed to be created to battle asteroids with astronauts stating that earth needed to be defended from what was coming from space.


Furthermore, in December 2014 (http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Operations/Space_Situational_Awareness/Preparing_for_an_asteroid_strike), just weeks ago, it was reported that "ESA and national disaster response offices recently rehearsed how to react if a threatening space rock is ever discovered to be on a collision course with Earth."

This was their first asteroid-impact exercise ever.

In a case of reality possibly mimicking Hollywood fiction, we are reminded by a reader of the 1998 movie "Deep Impact (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLgSKv2P-ow)" where it states "Unless a comet can be destroyed before colliding with Earth, only those allowed into shelters will survive.




Which people will survive?"

If the recent NASA revelation and the information on the underground base preparations is connected, then it would seem the answer to which people will survive, would be the elite, certain members of the political structure and military, but what about the everyday citizen just going about their business?

Is there an E.L.E. coming? Would the government even tell us if it were or would they be too concerned about creating a panic among the people while they are rushing to guarantee their own survival?





Published on Sep 28, 2014
More space news and info at: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/117621785057202253470 - the proposed Asteroid Impact and Deflection Assessment (AIDA) study mission would include two independent spacecraft: an impactor, and an impact monitor.










Published on Jan 13, 2015
ALERT! WILL ASTEROID HIT EARTH ON BLOODMOON DAY - SEPT 2015? - FULL DOCUMENTARY

The governments of the world know that a very large asteroid will hit the earth on the very very near future!





Published on Apr 25, 2015
Enoch's 70th Generation (4900 years): With a major scientific body estimating that a comet struck the Indian Ocean causing a mega-tsunami around 2900 B.C., it seems Enoch's 70th Generation could come at any time. My video shows you why that Generation is close at hand and what part CERN has in birthing the New Race.





Published on Apr 29, 2015

Lyn Leahz shares about a phone call with her friend who was given inside information about a comet expected to hit the earth between September 15-28, 2015.

Almost a year ago, the foreign minister of France three times publicly announced at a White House press conference a 500-day countdown to "climate chaos", which will end on September 24, 2015.

They know what is coming and have already told you - chaos will erupt on this planet in September 2015. Are you listening? Are you prepared?





Published on May 18, 2015
Breaking New Release! 2 5 Mile Wide Comet Headed Towards Earth in September 2015. World Leaders trying to Stop It!!!




Rumor has it massive ELE coming in Sept. — asteroid strike – Intellihub (https://www.intellihub.com/rumor-has-it-massive-ele-coming-in-sept-asteroid-strike/)

May 5, 2015 9:20 pm EDT
PAST DUE — IS IT POSSIBLE TO AVOID THE UNAVOIDABLE?

By Shepard Ambellas

(INTELLIHUB) — Are there any truth to the rumors? You decide.

In Earth's last 540 million years over fifty percent of the animal species on the planet have been wiped out at least 5 different times from a mass extinction event, according to research posted on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event).

If true, it just goes to show one how frail life on this planet really is.

After all, as it sits in 2015 there are 16,306 endangered species (http://www.endangeredearth.com) threatened with extinction and more species facing extinction each year as man has literally destroyed the planet in a certain sense.

And, as you may know, it's no secret that we are long overdue for an extinction level event (ELE). Whether it's from a nuclear war, a supervolcano eruption, or an asteroid impact, technically speaking, our days are numbered.

THE RUMORS
For the last 9 months or so I have heard chatter and rumors from people amongst the YouTube community who say that there is an impending asteroid strike off the coast of Venezuela this coming September.

I guess you could say that religious people would view such an event as the opening of the sixth seal in biblical translation.

And let me say here and now that I am not saying this, I am merely reporting on a few people who are. I am simply informing you on what is going on in sects of the YouTube community as well as in the media.

Apparently, according to WAPTek2 on YouTube, Pastor Lindsay Williams was the initial source of the information regarding the doomsday asteroid and based his claims solely on bible scripture.

"Here is where it gets crazy. The person doing this has no experience whatsoever in determining any of this and didn't predict anything else going on.", WAPTek2 said in a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAm-QSKLZo8) posted Jan. 17, 2015.

However, I myself have not yet been able to verify this claim and so far have not determined Lindsay Williams to be the original source.

RED FLAG: RUSSIAN NEWS AGENCY SAYS MASSIVE SPACE ROCK APPROACHING, "NOT YET ON COLLISION COURSE WITH EARTH".

The Russian Space Agency recently discovered a planet killer asteroid known as 2014 UR116 that, "is not yet on a collision course with earth," according to a video report from RT.

"The danger is as it passes near planets and the sun gravity could alter its path, pushing it directly at us," said the RT host.



Published on Dec 8, 2014
There's a giant asteroid flying towards Earth. Detected by a Russian robotic telescope, it is one of the largest - and most dangerous - space rocks approaching our planet's orbit.





Published on May 30, 2015
Watch in HD. In this video we will take a look at the many events that will transpire in September this year, with emphasis on the fact that THE DEVIL IS IN THE DETAILS.

God Bless All, TSTV

I have to think about this one. 

Shasta

We (we who?) welcome all quality input to assist in the research and find out the truth on this one.   :P



perhaps this event will have the unique ability to focus our outstanding research abilities to get to the TRUTH.




this guy says it far better than I but will probably not be considered quality input or truth


http://www.inquisitr.com/1813936/asteroid-impact-apocalypse-2015-mass-anxiety-as-conspiracy-theorists-predict-catastrophe/


Posted in: Odd News chuckle that it is listed as old news. :D
Posted: February 4, 2015
Asteroid Impact Apocalypse 2015: Mass Anxiety As Conspiracy Theorists Predict Catastrophe

The claim that the U.S. government has information about an impending asteroid impact catastrophe, but is keeping the information secret to prevent mass panic, is spreading fast and causing growing anxiety among doomsday believers.

Following a series of warnings from doomsday prophets, there is increasing convergence of opinion among believers that an asteroid apocalypse will occur in September, 2015.

But while governments with privileged information are allegedly keeping the information secret, the "elite" are preparing secretly to survive the catastrophe, according to conspiracy theorists.

There are several versions of the predictions of asteroid impact apocalypse being generated and circulated by the online conspiracy theory rumor millBut the separate strands have converged to strengthen conviction among susceptible individuals exposed to the constant bombardment of doomsday predictions that the asteroid apocalypse will occur in 2015..

The growing mass hysteria appears to have originated with a self proclaimed "prophet," Rev. Efrain Rodriguez, who claimed he sent a letter to NASA on Nov. 12, 2010, titled "Letter to the Space Agency... meteor heading toward Puerto Rico."

In the letter, he claimed he had received a message from God that an asteroid that would "soon be seen in the alarm systems of NASA" was approaching. He said the asteroid would hit the ocean near Puerto Rico and cause a massive earthquake and tsunami that would devastate the East Coat of the U.S., Mexico, Central, and South America.

Warning against ignoring the message, he instructed NASA to issue an alert "so people can be relocated from the areas that are to be affected."

Despite his letter to NASA, Rodriguez believed that the relevant agencies were aware of the impending catastrophe. He claimed that NASA had confirmed the trajectory of the asteroid and that President Barack Obama had been briefed. But the "rich and powerful" were making "plans to store food and build protective shelters" for themselves.

Following Rodriguez's "prophetic" message, several other online groups erupted with a cacophony of related predictions and claims that have caused alarm and helped to heighten tensions over fears of an impending asteroid Armageddon. Rumors, fueled by online NWO conspiracy theory websites, claimed that FEMA was stocking up on body bags, coffins, and other emergency response supplies in preparation for a major catastrophe in Puerto Rico.

The rumors forced FEMA to issue a statement in 2013. The agency denied it was stockpiling body bags. The FEMA Caribbean Region Director, Alejandro De La Campa, said that it was normal for the agency to purchase and store relevant disaster response material and that it had not made any "extraordinary or unusual purchases" recently.

"FEMA is aware of speculation regarding the purchase of materials from around the United States, especially the Atlantic region. There is no specific threat, catalyst or alert behind the purchase of additional supplies."

But FEMA's efforts to counter growing fears of an asteroid catastrophe in Puerto Rico and along the East Coast of the U.S. mainland haven't done much to stop spreading rumors that could spark mass panic.

With the conspiracy theory community looking out for "signs" of the impending catastrophe, the statement by the French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, in May, 2014, that the world had only "500 days to avoid climate chaos" was interpreted widely as a veiled asteroid impact disclosure statement, although in reality, the minister was only expressing hope that the United Nations climate conference that was scheduled to open in Paris, France, in November, 2015, would yield positive results.

Soon enough, a full blown end-time prophetic statement that originated from a number of sources in the end-time conspiracy theory community had identified September 23-24, 2015, as the asteroid impact apocalypse day.

The prediction was directly inspired by Fabius's purported "veiled warning" that the asteroid apocalypse would occur in about 500 days. A number of "prophets" had simply grabbed their calculators and with the help of a calendar, and an estimate of 500 days to the apocalypse, determined that the asteroid impact would occur around the time of on the Jewish Day of Atonement in 2015, that is, on September 23-24, 2015.

As one of the end-time prophets stated, the authorities have "publicly announced... through the French foreign minister Laurent Fabius," that apocalypse would occur in September, 2015.

"The governments of the world know that a very large asteroid will hit the earth on September 24, 2015, and they have publicly announced it already through the French foreign minister Laurent Fabius on May 13, 2014. They will attempt to nuke this asteroid, which will break it into smaller pieces that will reign down all over the earth causing massive destruction



YouTube videos making the prediction and warning believers to prepare began proliferating online. Several of the videos have gained hundreds of thousands of views, indicating a growing cult of asteroid impact apocalypse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdzPbaNvYCI



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g0GaGGqzkI





The credibility of these prophecies among evangelical Christians was enhanced by the TV evangelist Pat Robertson, who predicted in April, 2014, that an asteroid impact would occur to fulfill the "prophetic words of Jesus Christ."

"Hey, just get ready. Get right and stay right with the Lord. It could be next week, or it could be a 1,000 years from now, but nevertheless we want to be ready at whatever time the Lord says 'I'm wrapping it up, it's time to come home.'"

As conspiracy theorists count down to Armageddon, warnings continue proliferating.

In Dec. 31, 2014, the NWO conspiracy theory website All News Pipeline posted a blog message titled, "Is This Why The Astronomers Died? End Times Signs And Events Converging!"

The writer of the blog post suggested there was "indisputable evidence" that "something extremely strange is happening to our planet Earth," heralding an "incoming heavenly body."

The post suggested that the "elites" were preparing for the apocalypse by building underground bunkers and assassinating astronomers who could let the cat out of the bag and cause mass panic.

The impression that "something extremely strange is happening to our planet Earth" has been carefully nurtured by conspiracy theory websites such as Extinction Protocol, which assiduously document natural disasters around the globe.

All News Pipeline also published on January 4, a piece by Susan Duclos, titled, "E.L.E. (Extinction Level Event) Coming? Asteroid Warning, Govt Preps Underground Bases."

Duclos hinted that a "number of events occurring right now" point to impending catastrophe.

And as if to confirm fears, NASA has announced it is staging a presentation of a "hypothetical asteroid impact scenario" at the 2015 IAA Planetary Defense Conference (PDC) to be held in April. According to NASA, the scenario, which is "completely fictional" but "realistic," would consider possible responses by the world's governments to "an steroid discovered on April 13, 2015, the first day of the conference, at magnitude 20.9, declination -39 degrees and heading south."



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this one is very long

http://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-an-asteroid-will-strike-earth-on-24-September-2015



Is it true that an asteroid will strike earth on 24 September 2015?

Always a Possibility with regards to Asteroid impact..

But after all the hype about "Planet X" a few years ago that initially had me and I am sure many others researching a Major possible impact for a few months..when the deadline passed uneventful...it seems like another similar situation...But It may be harder to seem as concerned to take it seriously as many may have seemed back then.

I rarely look on other websites these days..so I have not come across much similar material on a concerning scale other than the many Youtube videos that always are around about similar topics.

With just over 3 months to go...This is much less time than the build up that what I had when I was alerted to Planet X that was maybe 18 months or more to its deadline.

But If more concerning situations start to become more apparent..that may start to make me take more notice.

Maybe for the next 3 months it would be an excuse to live life more dangerously or to do somethings that one always wanted to do but kept putting off, just in case.

Knowing more what we have learned about such possible situations... it seems most of us have no where to hide or have underground bases to flee to.

If this were true, would it not be fairly easy for our government(s) to strike this meteor with sufficient nuclear power to turn this thing to dust, long before it gets close enough to be a problem?? If this is not being prepared for as we speak, then I would seriously question the veracity of these thoughts presented. A 2.5 mile wide space traveling piece should be easy enough to hit and destroy, IMO. :)

Wow  haven't had an Asteroid scare since I left ATS  LOL

Well if it wipes us out, why worry? No place to go unless you have a ticket for the spaceship

Under ground won't help 

OH!!! and BTW  If it doesn't hit on Sept 28th  all those who predict it will be Tarred and Feathered :P

::)

Quote from: space otter on June 01, 2015, 04:51:11 AM

We (we who?) welcome all quality input to assist in the research and find out the truth on this one.   :P

So glad you asked.   :P

"We" are a group of current and 'ex' volunteer firefighters, LEO's, military and other concerned citizens here in beautiful Rabun County, Georgia, dedicated to research and development of alternate energy systems and alternate propulsion systems for mankind's continued growth into the future.

I, thorfourwinds, am 'the voice of the mountains' for the group and the producer of EARTH AID - The Concert to Save All Life On Earth (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1405.0).

As a youngster growing up on the collective in the four corners area of Western Colorado, I routinely gleaned the fields after the mechanical pickers slaughtered the crop (mostly potatoes and corn) and shared with our friends at Hotevilla, where I was privileged to meet my subsequent mentor, Thomas Banyacya.

I have been involved in the quest to save Mother Earth since that first meeting with that wonderful Hopi spiritual leader.

This is what 'started my engines.'

In the Word of Banyacya:

This is the last world that we are living on, there is no other world like this world where human life will live like this.

This is supposed to last forever.

And it's up to us, the survivors of that last total destruction by flood...

We're getting close to the last days that we either clean this mess up or we're going to find ourselves in a terrible spot.


"The Creator created the People of the Earth into the Land at the beginning of Creation and gave us a way of life. This way of life has been passed down generation-to-generation since the beginning. We have not honored this way of life through our own actions and we must live these original instructions in order to restore universal balance and harmony.

We are a part of Creation; thus, if we break the Laws of Creation, we destroy ourselves."



"We have reached the crossroads of life and the end of our existence."

On behalf of our future generations, we urge all Nations and human beings around the world to come together with good minds and prayer as a global community of all faiths to unite spiritually to heal the minds of those that are bringing danger with their decisions.

In the Sacred Hoop of Life, where there is no ending and no beginning...

Ana-h'opta po   (Hear my words!)

Chief Arvol Looking Horse   19th Generation Keeper of the Sacred White Buffalo Calf Pipe Bundle



We share the message of Chief Looking Horse.

The Council Statement he presented "reflects the wisdom of the Spiritual People of the Earth, of North and South America, working in unity to restore peace, harmony and balance for our collective future and for all living beings."


May we share our vision of peace, love, healing and raising awareness to restore universal balance and harmony?

It is time for us to be the change we wish to see in the world.

EARTH AID is dedicated to the creation of an interactive multimedia worldwide event to raise awareness about the challenges and solutions associated with nuclear energy.

This may very well be our last chance to voice our collective resolution to end the insanity of nuclear power to save ourselves and Mother Earth.

As only an educated, informed public can truly make a difference in today's world, we are challenged to raise our collective voice and work together to resolve this crisis, based on the foundation of Truth.

Through the efficient utilization of today's computer technology and the darlings of social media - Facebook, Twitter, InstaGram, RebelMouse and other media, we shall globally unite to truly make a difference this time.

The EARTH AID SYMPOSIUM and Eco-Village will feature the largest gathering of environmentally-safe energy and non-nuclear organizations and speakers from around the world ever.

Concertgoers can visit dozens of multi-media information booths to participate with the experts and learn about safe, clean, renewable energy where they currently live.

We encourage any nuclear power advocates to show face, especially representatives of the utility companies 100 commercial reactors currently operating in America, so enthusiasts from both sides can engage in spirited discussions regarding the challenges and solutions of nuclear energy.

We look forward to realistic solutions to the unsolved and apparently unsolvable problem of isolating millions of tons of nuclear waste from the environment for longer into the future than human civilizations has yet existed.

The Eco-Village will also feature clean energy exhibits such as electric vehicles, residential-sized wind generators, solar systems, biofuel generators that run on fuel made from algae, atmosphere water generators and much more.

These solar, wind and biofuel technologies will supply the energy for the stage, sound and lights as well as the Village itself.

So get up close and talk to the experts...and yes there will be lots of great music...

Live on the internet, radio and television and coming to an event in your area, when waiting is filled.

Proceeds from the concert will be distributed to Japan disaster relief efforts, organizations here in America and worldwide working to promote safe, alternative, non-nuclear energy.

EARTH AID - The Concert to Save All Life on Earth (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=1405.0)

The World Must Take Charge at Fukushima (http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=5453.msg74364#msg74364)


We fully support these goals:

1. phasing out all nuclear power plants, all uranium mining & production

2. stopping the current global nuclear arms race, stopping the production of nuclear weapons,

3. banning the use of Depleted Uranium (DU) munitions; caring for the thousands of victims of this form of "low intensity nuclear war"

4.  guarding extremely long-lived and poisonous nuclear waste; caring for people, lands, oceans and ecosystems already poisoned

5. making the transition to renewable/sustainable energy sources

6. growing beyond war and weapons as sources of national strength, dignity and pride

7. doing all the above with mindful compassion, transformational kindness/forgiveness and courageous creativity

I need to find a Vegas oddsmaker on these doom porn conspiracy stories so I can lay money down on it not happening.

There's money in them thar stories!

Looks like the closest approach encounter for the year is July 7th at just 1.1 lunar distance.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/neo_ca?type=NEO&hmax=all&sort=date&sdir=ASC&tlim=far_future&dmax=0.05AU&max_rows=100&action=Display+Table&show=1

Wartoad..

what a great idea and guess what we know a dude who is in vegas and i'll bet knows the best place to put down the cash

what do ya think Z.. can we turn this nonsence into a money maker?




I find the following is hard to believe..



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did anyone read the article I posted?....geeeeze why bother anymore

Quotedid anyone read the article I posted?....geeeeze why bother anymore

Much of what you posted was covered in the OP.

If you had bothered to read our article, you would have noticed that.   :P

And what You personally believe is Your opinion.

Thank you for the response.    ;D

Quote from: WarToad on June 01, 2015, 03:00:30 PM
Looks like the closest approach encounter for the year is July 7th at just 1.1 lunar distance.

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/neo_ca?type=NEO&hmax=all&sort=date&sdir=ASC&tlim=far_future&dmax=0.05AU&max_rows=100&action=Display+Table&show=1

What about the ones that do not appear on that list?  89,000 + or -   :P

QuoteNASA's Near Earth Object Program said: "While this approximately 400-meter sized asteroid has a three year orbital period around the sun and returns to the Earth's neighbourhood periodically, it does not represent a threat because its orbital path does not pass sufficiently close to the Earth's orbit."

Recent research has suggested asteroids as small as 164 feet wide would still be large enough to cause devastation on Earth.

There are around 100,000 objects which cross our planet's orbit that are large enough to be dangerous.

However, only 11,000 have been tracked and catalogued so far.

QuoteWhat about the ones that do not appear on that list?  89,000 + or -   :P

True, very true.  But then if it's not on that list, what asteroid are people talking about that might hit us?  Is it observed?  I'm only going to get worked up on facts.  Is this just someones feeling that there is this unseen something that going to do something sometime in September?  It's pretty hard to take that seriously.  You can only research known entities, known objects, known facts.

So that YouTube community is saying there will be  an asteroid strike off the coast of Venezuela in September.  To be that specific to say that you need to have a known object with a known trajectory, a known speed, a known distance.  So what is it?  Where is it?  Show us.  Otherwise they are just pulling a story out of thin air.  And we all know that never happens.   ::)

actually Thor  I did read the op..the whole thing and nowhere was more than one side presented..nowhere did any of these comments show up





The claim that the U.S. government has information about an impending asteroid impact catastrophe, but is keeping the information secret to prevent mass panic, is spreading fast and causing growing anxiety among doomsday believers.

Following a series of warnings from doomsday prophets, there is increasing convergence of opinion among believers that an asteroid apocalypse will occur in September, 2015.

But while governments with privileged information are allegedly keeping the information secret, the "elite" are preparing secretly to survive the catastrophe, according to conspiracy theorists.

There are several versions of the predictions of asteroid impact apocalypse being generated and circulated by the online conspiracy theory rumor mill  But the separate strands have converged to strengthen conviction among susceptible individuals exposed to the constant bombardment of doomsday predictions that the asteroid apocalypse will occur in 2015..

The growing mass hysteria appears to have originated with a self proclaimed "prophet," Rev. Efrain Rodriguez, who claimed he sent a letter to NASA on Nov. 12, 2010, titled "Letter to the Space Agency... meteor heading toward Puerto Rico."




The credibility of these prophecies among evangelical Christians was enhanced by the TV evangelist Pat Robertson, who predicted in April, 2014, that an asteroid impact would occur to fulfill the "prophetic words of Jesus Christ."

"Hey, just get ready. Get right and stay right with the Lord. It could be next week, or it could be a 1,000 years from now, but nevertheless we want to be ready at whatever time the Lord says 'I'm wrapping it up, it's time to come home.'"

As conspiracy theorists count down to Armageddon, warnings continue proliferating.

In Dec. 31, 2014, the NWO conspiracy theory website All News Pipeline posted a blog message titled, "Is This Why The Astronomers Died? End Times Signs And Events Converging!"

The writer of the blog post suggested there was "indisputable evidence" that "something extremely strange is happening to our planet Earth," heralding an "incoming heavenly body."

The post suggested that the "elites" were preparing for the apocalypse by building underground bunkers and assassinating astronomers who could let the cat out of the bag and cause mass panic.


and that is why I said I found your statement hard to believe

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for a man of your integrity and honor and intelligence to be spreading such on line gossip  and rumor mongering just floors me

MOST EXCELLENT!

So you can prove those fear-mongers wrong! ;D

That's the spirit and information we are looking for to put this puppy to bed.    ;)

Thank you!

QuoteThe post suggested that the "elites" were preparing for the apocalypse by building underground bunkers and assassinating astronomers who could let the cat out of the bag and cause mass panic.

Your proof that this is not true, please.

1. Are there any underground bunkers that the elites/military have built?

2. There are no astronomers that have 'mysteriously died' that might have let the cat out of the bag.

Thanking you in advance.

Quotefor a man of your integrity and honor and intelligence to be spreading such on line gossip and rumor mongering just floors me

Thank you, I think.    :o

Didn't you say the much same thing about Jade Helm 15?

Shooting the messenger has become quite the sport here as of late.    :P

Feel free to prove us wrong.    ;)

Published on May 29, 2015
You have given up your freedoms and openly accept your fate.

You let others tell you that freedom and convenience do not come hand in hand.

Moves are being made to form "Thought Police" and Newsroom censors... you have been conditioned to ignore radical ideas, even fear them. You are slipping into a new age of dystopic control, and you passively allow it.

Believing you are safer. It's easier not to think. Let big brother handle it. Give up those freedoms for which your forefathers died.

If you do protest, the thought police might label you as one of "THEM".

And before you write this off as fear mongering BS, perhaps you should read a little.

Don't simply let others "Explain it away".

Shooting the messenger has become quite the sport here as of late.    :P




only because the messenger seems to be the purveyor of said topics
not an asker of opinions or other  views

and any who dare to have an opposing view or say  prove it  are called stupid and Ostrich 
and immediately buried under another multi colored barrage of Propaganda   unproven
and  heavily weighted to the op message of doom

then

the op suggests that his stuff be read yet again even though the op has not read
the others opinions
and  yet another posting of  a multi colored pile of propaganda is added

whereby

other posterss either start tossing verbs or walk away..

sadly most walk away with less of an opinion of the op
and the poor op just doesn't  see it as anything but an attack


and that is why I say
for a man of your integrity and honor and intelligence to be spreading such on line gossip  and rumor mongering just floors me


and why I feel nothing is to be gained here
and why I refuse to continue the back and forth..

Quote from: WarToad on June 01, 2015, 03:00:30 PM
Looks like the closest approach encounter for the year is July 7th at just 1.1 lunar distance.

The problem with relying on NASA is that NASA MISSES many of them

They missed the big one that just skimmed by us and hit Mars. They didn't spot it until it was past us

They missed the one that hit Russia... and it took them a week to figure out it was 5 times bigger than first estimate

Also with the military satellites going CLASSIFIED on incoming space rocks the scientists do not have enough eyes and ears out there

Apophis 2029 is supposed to pass close enough that it will be withing satellite orbit, Close enough for Earth's gravity to alyer it's course

Problem is NASA is unsure just where and shows a large margin of probability  1AU  and that is a HUGE error margin :P

(http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/apophis/apophis3.jpg)

This one will get close enough to take out the ISS :P  The grey bar is the error margin

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/34/Apophis_pass.svg/600px-Apophis_pass.svg.png)

Now WHY are incoming space rocks CLASSIFIED?

(http://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/8889/asteroid-fly-by-artists-impression.jpg?w=600)



For 15 years, scientists have benefited from data gleaned by U.S. classified satellites of natural fireball events in Earth's atmosphere – but no longer.

A recent U.S. military policy decision now explicitly states that observations by hush-hush government spacecraft of incoming bolides and fireballs are classified secret and are not to be released, SPACE.com has learned.

The satellites' main objectives include detecting nuclear bomb tests, and their characterizations of asteroids and lesser meteoroids as they crash through the atmosphere has been a byproduct data bonanza for scientists.

The upshot: Space rocks that explode in the atmosphere are now classified.

"It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change," said one scientist familiar with the work. "It's unfortunate because there was this great synergy...a very good cooperative arrangement. Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable change in policy."

Scientists say not only will research into the threat from space be hampered, but public understanding of sometimes dramatic sky explosions will be diminished, perhaps leading to hype and fear of the unknown.

http://www.space.com/6829-military-hush-incoming-space-rocks-classified.html

And that is from Space.com  not a woo woo site :P

Mr Ostrich:

Please do not confuse these people with facts, as they obviously have an agenda and do not care a whit about the TRUTH.    :P

You have nether facts nor TRUTH.  You have someone saying they have a feeling that there is this unseen something that going to do something sometime in September.  While that sounds like an excellent storyline for a Dr. Seuss book about a s-s-s-snake, it is a meaningless as meaningless gets, and just as s-s-s-superbly fictional.

So is something going to hit in September?  They say yes.  If you're saying yes, you know what it is and where it is.  Do tell. They can't.  Then they don't know what it is or where it is.  Then how can they factually truthfully know it's going to hit?  They can't.

Until someone cites the asteroid, it's trajectory, it distance, it's speed, they have nothing.  Someone's throwing a dart and the apocalypse board and seeing how many people willingly climb on board for story time.  Complimentary milk, cookies, LSD.  That's always a plus.

Greetings:

Just what part of the OP did y'all miss?   :P

QuoteHere's a real opportunity for serious researchers, debunkers, theologians, detractors, dissemblers and just us plain folks to work together to get to the truth of a matter that appears to be of great concern to millions of concerned citizens of our beloved Planet Earth (our only home) worldwide.

Please, instead of a knee-jerk reaction immediately offering an 'opinion' generated out of thin air because of personal dissatisfaction with the OP or yawning to show lack of consideration and ignorance, perhaps this event will have the unique ability to focus our outstanding research abilities to get to the TRUTH.

OK. So Be It.

Perhaps this video will assist in One's understanding of the possibility of an asteroid impact, a great place to continue the discussion.

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 01, 2015, 10:32:48 PM
Greetings:

Just what part of the OP did y'all miss?   :P

It was in pink, I thought it was a quote.  :P

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 01, 2015, 07:41:02 PM
Mr Ostrich:

Please do not confuse these people with facts, as they obviously have an agenda and do not care a whit about the TRUTH.    :P

TRUTH is irrelevant :P

Never let TRUTH get in the way of a good story - Mark Twain

Did yawl know that the Sudbury Basin, source of about 80% of the world's nickel and cobalt, is actually an asteroid impact crater? Because of the density of the iron nickel cobalt asteroid it just buried itself rather than explode. It was only recently that they figured out it was an asteroid :P

NORCAT is using the crater to test off world mining machines and has an annual Off World mining symposium there

NORCAT is the one that made the bucket wheel excavator for the moon (see our docs :P )

Did yawl know that The Living Moon website has cataloged over 200 meteorite and asteroid impact on Earth with locations and pictures?

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Earth_Images_09.html
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Earth_Images_10.html

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Earth_Images_07.html

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Earth_Images_06.html

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Earth_Images_08.html

More here and I have more to finish
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Mars_Images.html#Earth


Did yawl know that in 562 AD a COMET wiped out Britain and that it triggered the Dark Ages and that the Pope hid that fact?

I didn't either :P  New research :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1agt9TT_NFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1agt9TT_NFM

Otter Bait :P

John Chewter just did a radio show on it in the UK  We can copy that

I think the quality control an post expectations are far from consistant.
I don't blame Thor... Seems there's always a flavour the month.
Personally, my preference is more inclined toward acedemic facts/speculation, rather random web stuff.. But ya never know, remember that post over on ATS about the Batman shooting...

Here's a site critical of the allegation with a lot of good points both in the OP and comments -

http://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-an-asteroid-will-strike-earth-on-24-September-2015

thorfourwinds said: "Among other things, religion has it's sights on this day - September 23, 2015...YOM KIPPUR...The Day Of Atonement...Rdunk, this is right up your alley.   :P"

For sure Thor, for the many of us who are in that "alley" which you mentioned, there are many people waiting with expectation for the promise of a specific redemption event - how and when is open on that "boarding ticket"! :) Many of us do believe that as a song says, "signs of the times are every where", as we see all of the despicable such that continues to be even more prevalent around this globe.

Doing only a little "research" as you noted, I did see a written account by someone named Buck Stephens, who I have not heard of before now. In his statements he writes very specifically about how he came to know about some things through recurring dreams, starting in the year 2009. It is interesting that the date he has arrived at is September 13, 2015

A little more "fodder" for the pile: http://buckstephens.typepad.com/blog/2013/02/september-13-2015-a-reoccurring-dream.html

What if your WRONG about that "boarding ticket"? 

The Heaven's Gate people had a "boarding ticket" too

Didn't work out so well for them :P

Quote from: zorgon on June 02, 2015, 05:15:57 AM
What if your WRONG about that "boarding ticket"? 

The Heaven's Gate people had a "boarding ticket" too

Didn't work out so well for them :P

Z, they obviously had what so many others also have - COUNTERFEIT BOARDING TICKETS!! :)

Of course, I simply used the word "tickets" initially to convey a thought, for as you also know, it is not tickets that actually confirms the implied passage!

Quote from: rdunk on June 03, 2015, 02:55:46 AM
Of course, I simply used the word "tickets" initially to convey a thought, for as you also know, it is not tickets that actually confirms the implied passage!

true  I hear death of everything is part of your ride :P

Sorry I will pass and take my chances with the space rock

No!

check at http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/

But....2015 HM10 will pass earth at just over the same distance as the moon on July 7th. ...

Asteroid Schmasteroid :P

Asteroid 2014 UR116, A 400-meter Sized Near-Earth Asteroid, Represents No Threat to the Earth

NASA/JPL Near-Earth Object Program Office

Some recent press reports have suggested that an asteroid designated 2014 UR116, found on October 27, 2014, at the MASTER-II observatory in Kislovodsk, Russia, represents an impact threat to the Earth. While this approximately 400-meter sized asteroid has a three year orbital period around the sun and returns to the Earth's neighborhood periodically, it does not represent a threat because its orbital path does not pass sufficiently close to the Earth's orbit.

Furthermore, Tim Spahr, Director of the Minor Planet Center in Cambridge Massachusetts, has also re-computed this object's orbit after noticing that it was the same as an object observed six years ago. Using both sets of observations, the future motion of this asteroid was carried further forward in time using the automatic computations made by the Sentry system at NASA's Near-Earth Object Program Office at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. These computations rule out this object as an impact threat to Earth (or any other planet) for at least the next 150 years.

Any statements about risk for impact of discovered asteroids and comets should be verified by scientists and the media by accessing NASA' Near Earth Object (NEO) Program web site at

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news187.html


next..... :P

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 25, 2015, 08:53:51 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1I-eWF2N8

WINGED PLANET FOUND!/Nibiru/NASA - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1I-eWF2N8)

Published on Jun 24, 2015
Images now being shown of Winged Planet.
Could this be the Legendary Nibiru??
5 h 42m 21.0s 22° 36? 45.7?
These are The Google Sky Coordinates.?
http://www.BPEarthWatch.Com

This is big. Staggeringly big.

And isn't it interesting that it looks almost exactly like the illustrations of how it is imagined to look that one may find here and there on the internet.

(http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t376/this_is_who_we_are/winged-Nibiru-copy_zps4hdsog4c.jpg) (http://s1056.photobucket.com/user/this_is_who_we_are/media/winged-Nibiru-copy_zps4hdsog4c.jpg.html)

In addition, the person who wrote this thread at ATS has some 'splainin to do:

The mystery of the missing section of Google Sky solved
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1049967/pg1

Several questions relative to this "winged planet:

1. How far away from the Earth is this "winged planet"/what is its position relative to the Solar System?

2. What is its estimated size?

3. How fast is it traveling?

4. Do we have a spacial track on it yet, to know whether it is going/coming, and when it is going to be here if it is coming our way.

5. If this is a "planet-type object", why is it so bright in the photos - more like a star or comet isn't it? (see below)

If "we" have known about this "winged planet" since at the least 2007........ then ??whoever?? caused this feature to be blacked out of Google Sky likely also has had the right folks working on this to find the answers to such questions. A "known" heavenly body like this simply would not have been ignored, more especially if it seemed to possibly be heading our way. And if it is heading our way, then therein would lie the reason for making it black on the sky-map for several years, doncha think??

6. And what then could be the reason for un-blacking it - if not for a 1st step as a beginning in the planned release of such "information" on this to we the public of the world??!!!


(http://s11.postimg.org/z6nszblpv/Screen_Shot_2015_06_26_at_4_39_57_PM.jpg)

Another video that discusses the Google Sky blackout - uploaded to YouTube Dec. 2009

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpGAyzMn7o

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on June 26, 2015, 02:15:13 AM
In addition, the person who wrote this thread at ATS has some 'splainin to do:

The mystery of the missing section of Google Sky solved
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1049967/pg1

Why? ???

Quote from: ArMaP on June 27, 2015, 12:06:46 AM
Why? ???

As I recall his general opinion after viewing the plate at the University of Michigan was: "Nothing to see here folks, move along, move along...".

Thus, my "he has some 'splaining to do" comment - since there is in fact something to see here folks.

I mentioned in an earlier post how I had looked at the Planet "X" Nibiru rumor a few years ago...

I wonder how many members followed it back then with some concern ?

I had some info and dates etc that were given back then when it was expected to become visible or create destruction on Earth...

I had the info and dates on my prior computer but unfortunately I lost the  data after my hard drive packed in.

So I cannot recall exactly when it was when there was a given date that was given...I thought that  it may have been May 2013.  or maybe a few years  earlier. maybe between 2009 to 2012..

with 2012 being  the Myan calendar date suggesting the end of the World. But I don't think it was specifically scheduled for then.

Thinking again, I think it was a year or two before I joined PRC...so it may have been May 2009 or 2010.


Maybe it was May 2009...as I have found this related article.

QuoteRumors spread of which on May 15, 2009 Planet Nibiru could well be visible around typically the southern hemisphere. But nothing developed nor anything strange within the skies.

http://planet-x41.tumblr.com/

without spending some time backtracking... It would take time to fully check the details.

The last 10 years for me have gone so fast I really have trouble recalling my past .

Various sources showed the same similar images we are still seeing and some reports were saying it was visible in certain places.

After getting over the disillusion after all the hype , I then stopped following it in any real detail.. and I have forgot quite a lot of the facts in detail w without referring back to certain info.

I wonder how many other members may have also been following  the story closer back then  and had a similar experience ?

Or if most are just becoming more aware now of the next suggestions.

I cannot seem to find much of the past material that was online that I was following at the time. Some of the persons I was following seem to have taken down their past webpages articles , videos etc.

Some have updated and continued with the story with some new things .

One I recall was someone called Marshall Masters.

This is his website...he had wrote some reports or a downloadable book on it and created some videos of interest...and there was a forum that used to offer some things that seemed good at the time..
maybe the posts are still on the forum that I looked at back at that time.. but I think hes removed them.

He covers some interesting info on Nibiru's background as well as his believes that it is Survivable as he suggests its been survived in the past.


http://yowusa.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mp03FdVkOY

They were always suggesting that it was approaching Earth either almost direct in line with the Sun or from the South Pole...and could only really be viewed from the Southern hemisphere.

Some reports suggest its a Brown Dwarf star and cannot easily be seen.. others suggested its a large planet..

so

Until I see Two suns in the sky or an object larger than the brightest stars or planets or some other info.... I am not going to concern myself about it again like I did back then ..

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on June 27, 2015, 01:14:12 AM
Thus, my "he has some 'splaining to do" comment - since there is in fact something to see here folks.

So, as he didn't give the explanation you wanted he has some 'splaining to do.  ::)

Quote from: ArMaP on June 27, 2015, 01:32:27 AM
So, as he didn't give the explanation you wanted he has some 'splaining to do.  ::)

Clearly that's not what I said.

What's your angle?

Nibiru...  Nibiru...   Nibiru...


::)

Quote from: astr0144 on June 27, 2015, 01:27:45 AM
I mentioned in an earlier post how I had looked at the Planet "X" Nibiru rumor a few years ago...

I wonder how many members followed it back then with some concern ?

Probably a lot :P even though Beth and I told people Nibiru was a GATE a CROSSING POINT :P

QuoteI had some info and dates etc that were given back then when it was expected to become visible or create destruction on Earth...

Well that date was 2012 :P  But Sitchin did not say that :D

I had the info and dates on my prior computer but unfortunately I lost the  data after my hard drive packed in.

QuoteSo I cannot recall exactly when it was when there was a given date that was given...I thought that  it may have been May 2013.  or maybe a few years  earlier. maybe between 2009 to 2012..

No it was supposed to be 2012... and the Mayan calendar 'ending' got sucked into the story by the Fear Mongers and Money Grubbers

2012 came and went... NOTHING happened :P 

Quotewith 2012 being  the Myan calendar date suggesting the end of the World. But I don't think it was specifically scheduled for then.

Well yes  the two were tied together :D

QuoteVarious sources showed the same similar images we are still seeing and some reports were saying it was visible in certain places.

yes crazy people seeing Sun Dogs and the like thinking a huge planet could get that close without anyone else seeing it or having it's gravity rip us apart :P

QuoteAfter getting over the disillusion after all the hype , I then stopped following it in any real detail.. and I have forgot quite a lot of the facts in detail w without referring back to certain info.

I wonder how many other members may have also been following  the story closer back then  and had a similar experience ?

Well look  lets END this :P  Z Sitchin INVENTED Nibiru... No one heard about it before his theory... so would it not be wise to LISTEN to what Z Sitchen wrote?

"Nibiru settled into a clockwise orbit (equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun). Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit, equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun until 10, 900 B.C.E., when Nibiru arrived earlier, due to increasing drift from Solaris of Uranus. Uranus' gravity sped Nibiru's orbit. As a result of this close encounter between Nibiru and Uranus, one of Nibiru's moons, Miranda, was captured by and became a moon of Uranus as Nibiru and Uranus pulled at each other. From 10,000B.C.E. on, Nibiru's revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years; which makes Nibiru's next return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as predicated on the earlier 3600- year orbit"

Sitchin, Z., 2007, The End of Days, pages 315 - 317


2900 AD  not 2012

In Sitchin's own words... that is 892 years away...

QuoteOr if most are just becoming more aware now of the next suggestions.

Suggestions yes  The power of suggestion is mighty indeed :D

QuoteI cannot seem to find much of the past material that was online that I was following at the time. Some of the persons I was following seem to have taken down their past webpages articles , videos etc.

Because they were wrong  so they remove the old posts so people will forget that they were wrong :P

Some have updated and continued with the story with some new things .

QuoteHe covers some interesting info on Nibiru's background as well as his believes that it is Survivable as he suggests its been survived in the past.

There is NO BACKGROUND on Nibiru  Sitchen made it up based on a misinterpretation of Sumerian, At the time no one could read Sumerian :P Now you can

QuoteThey were always suggesting that it was approaching Earth either almost direct in line with the Sun or from the South Pole...and could only really be viewed from the Southern hemisphere.

That is likely the STUPIDEST thing anyone 'suggested'  The North Star is over the North pole, yet you can see it from almost the equator.

THERE IS NO NIBIRU COMING :D

QuoteSome reports suggest its a Brown Dwarf star and cannot easily be seen.. others suggested its a large planet..

The assumed Brown Dwarf beyond the Kuiper Belt is named NEMISIS and is hypothetical

http://www.space.com/22538-nemesis-star.html



THERE YA GO!!!! :D

Quote from: rdunk on June 26, 2015, 11:10:36 PM
Several questions relative to this "winged planet:

Answers we have, yes? Hmmm?

I always love the way people say NAS FOUND  or NASA SAYS  but never provide the NASA link :P

Fortunately there is.... ME :P

1. How far away from the Earth is this "winged planet"/what is its position relative to the Solar System?

BP Piscium (BP Psc), a more evolved version of our Sun about 1,000 light years from Earth.

2. What is its estimated size?

About the size of our sun


here is a video :P



3. How fast is it traveling?

4. Do we have a spacial track on it yet, to know whether it is going/coming, and when it is going to be here if it is coming our way.

Not relevant as it it is 1,000 LY away

5. If this is a "planet-type object", why is it so bright in the photos - more like a star or comet isn't it? (see below)

No it is a star the 'wings' are only in the minds of Nibitu believers  they are really jets

f "we" have known about this "winged planet" since at the least 2007........ then ??whoever?? caused this feature to be blacked out of Google Sky likely also has had the right folks working on this to find the answers to such questions. A "known" heavenly body like this simply would not have been ignored, more especially if it seemed to possibly be heading our way. And if it is heading our way, then therein would lie the reason for making it black on the sky-map for several years, doncha think??

The black out on Google is typical missing data :P They were probably waiting for an updated file for that section showing the new Chandra data :P

6. And what then could be the reason for un-blacking it - if not for a 1st step as a beginning in the planned release of such "information" on this to we the public of the world??!!!

Well it IS 1000 LY away  even at the speed of light it would take a thousand years to get here... so I am not going to worry about it :P

A 'Cannibal' Star

Sept 2010

(https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/481456main_bppsc2panel_665.jpg)

The composite image on the left shows X-ray and optical data for BP Piscium (BP Psc), a more evolved version of our Sun about 1,000 light years from Earth. Chandra X-ray Observatory data are colored in purple, and optical data from the 3-meter Shane telescope at Lick Observatory are shown in orange, green and blue. BP Psc is surrounded by a dusty and gaseous disk and has a pair of jets several light years long blasting out of the system. A close-up view is shown by the artist's impression on the right. For clarity a narrow jet is shown, but the actual jet is probably much wider, extending across the inner regions of the disk. Because of the dusty disk, the star's surface is obscured in optical and near infrared light. Therefore, the Chandra observation is the first detection of this star in any wavelength.

The disk and the jets, seen distinctly in the optical data, provide evidence for a recent and catastrophic interaction in which BP Psc consumed a nearby star or giant planet. This happened when BP Psc ran out of nuclear fuel and expanded into its "red giant" phase.

Jets and a disk are often characteristics of very young stars, so astronomers thought BP Psc might be one as well. However, the new Chandra results argue against this interpretation, because the X-ray source is fainter than expected for a young star. Another argument previously used against the possible youth of BP Psc was that it is not located near any star-forming cloud and there are no other known young stars in its immediate vicinity. The Chandra image supports this absence of a cluster of young stars, since multiwavelength studies show that most of the X-ray sources in the composite image are likely to be rapidly growing supermassive black holes in the centers of distant galaxies.

Credits: X-ray: NASA/CXC/RIT/J. Kastner et al. Optical: UCO/Lick/STScI/M. Perrin et al. Illustration: CXC/M. Weiss

https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/chandra/multimedia/photo10-118.html#.VY5O7Rsc6So

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on June 27, 2015, 03:15:25 AM
Clearly that's not what I said.

That's what I thought you meant, what other "'splaining" does he need to do? He told what he did and what he found.

QuoteWhat's your angle?

I'm trying to get a clear answer, something that most people here, apparently, don't like.

Unfortunately some of the facts that I may have been more aware about on either Nibiru  or "Winged Planet" have faded.. and unless I think it was really coming soon I don't have the incentive to try to spend time rechecking the details..

As you say .. many a past video or article has been removed and now replaced.. ....Yes maybe by certain hoaxers.


I can see how it probably would have related to the 2012 myth at the time..maybe later they had suggested a 2nd date of May 2013..

but I think they did say it would be visible from Earth in may 2009.

QuoteI had some info and dates etc that were given back then when it was expected to become visible or create destruction on Earth...

Quote

Well that date was 2012 :P  But Sitchin did not say that :D

Is it False or could there be truth to it ?

At the time I thought that it may have been a possibility. But I did not look into detail of the facts that you suggest were mainly created by Z Sitchen.

I came across the ref to the old Ancients such as the Sumerian and there was also mention of what I thought was a race of the  "Annunaki".

but this article says they were Gods of the Sumerians who had Android beings..

Some suggestions that they may be like the Grey Aliens.  but there was also mention at the time of Giants that had come from the visiting Planet and had at one time been here on earth.

That was maybe why I thought it could have had possibilities.

QuoteThis information poses an interesting Hypothesis that the "Annunaki" are the GODS as described by the Sumerians, and they had "Android Beings" helping them

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_1b.htm

If not Nibiru.. is there a similar 10th Planet ? that may be a possibility to connect with the Anunnaki ?

Yes I think you can see it from the equator but it may also vary at the time of year and what part of the equator.. Not sure How the Earths 23 degree tilt may effect things in relation to the North Star !
Is it always aligned or does it wobble or vary with ref to the real North ?

If one is Just below the equator or at the Southern tropics.. Can they see the North Star ?  ??? I dont think they could.

Just like we could NOT see the southern sky from just above the equator ! if for eg their was a object able to approach direct from the sky aline the mid South point axis.

QuoteThat is likely the STUPIDEST thing anyone 'suggested'  The North Star is over the North pole, yet you can see it from almost the equator.

I am not sure if its all purely down to his theory !
or if other sources may have suggested it as possibility.

QuoteWell look  lets END this :P  Z Sitchin INVENTED Nibiru... No one heard about it before his theory... so would it not be wise to LISTEN to what Z Sitchen wrote

There MAY be some evidence to suggest some major Earth destructions back on cycles of 3600 yrs .. but you can only go back so far as to when its recorded by Man...

Anything else further back could only be done by Science !

Quote"Nibiru settled into a clockwise orbit (equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun). Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit, equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun until 10, 900 B.C.E.

If it was for real that is a relief to know its 2900 AD!  :D

Quoterevolution sped to 3.450 Earth years; which makes Nibiru's next return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as predicated on the earlier 3600- year orbit"

2900 AD  not 2012

In Sitchin's own words... that is 892 years away...

Was that purely my mistake or was there varitions  at the time leading into 2012 in the story that they considered Nibiru either a Planet or Brown Dwarf ?

QuoteThe assumed Brown Dwarf beyond the Kuiper Belt is named NEMISIS and is hypothetical

Can you give a brief explanation what you meant by a Gate ? or cross point.

QuoteProbably a lot :P even though Beth and I told people Nibiru was a GATE a CROSSING POINT :P

what has happened to Beth ? and Gigas ? Not seen any of them for a long time online ..

I guess Taco Bell gives a date of 11/23 not sure what date this was made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itx6A0etBuk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj9_tdeI4Eo

Quote from: ArMaP on June 27, 2015, 01:55:31 PM
That's what I thought you meant, what other "'splaining" does he need to do? He told what he did and what he found.
I'm trying to get a clear answer, something that most people here, apparently, don't like.

According to him he found nothing after careful analysis. I would like to hear his explanation as to what exactly his careful analysis entailed and why he found nothing unusual when in fact the object is plainly there as conjectured and fits the description 100%.

Are we clear?

Well, I did go to Google Sky myself, just to see if I could find this "winged looking feature". I did go there, and yep, it is actually there. I will post another pic of it, as it does have the coordinates pinned in the pic. At 1000 or so light years away, as Zorgon said, not a lot to be concerned about today anyway. :)

Now, with a fourth blood Moon coming September 28, 2015, there might be more reason for our concern with that, than with this "winged planet"?? 8)


(http://s14.postimg.org/ic3hw10bl/Screen_Shot_2015_06_27_at_2_15_36_PM.jpg)

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on June 27, 2015, 07:04:11 PM
According to him he found nothing after careful analysis. I would like to hear his explanation as to what exactly his careful analysis entailed and why he found nothing unusual when in fact the object is plainly there as conjectured and fits the description 100%.

The object is not on the original photo, what more do you need to know? ???

QuoteAre we clear?

Now I know what you meant, thanks. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on June 27, 2015, 09:24:42 PM
The object is not on the original photo, what more do you need to know?

That's the whole point of the conversation: why is not the object in the original photo and why did ngchunter post that he had found the missing piece, which has now been disproven by non other than Google?


Here, ngchunter emphatically states that the black box is still there.

And states that the coordinates are wrong.

QuoteNo they are not. Those are the coordinates for a T Tauri star and reflection nebula. They are not the coordinates of the missing section of google sky. It has never been censored.

Huh, funny, it wasn't censored... Look at the coordinates; 5h 53m 27s, -6d 10' 56" for the "missing section" and then 5h 42m 21s, +22d 36' 34.5" for the image of the T Tauri star and nebula. That's over 28 degrees different in declination and nearly 3 degrees different in right ascension. It's not in the "missing region" at all. It's just a T Tauri type star and associated reflection nebula.

WTF? These are coordinates not discussed previously. What's going here?

So, how did rdunk find this?

Quoteoriginally posted by: Misterlondon
So what exactly is under the "glitch"?

Can you summerize your findings..

QuoteNot sure what you mean? You mean under the blue plate anomaly? Well according to the original negative, nothing at all, just black space.

Quoteoriginally posted by: notmyrealname
This is, in my opinion the epitome of ATS excellence! I commend you fine OP and look forward to meeting the excellent bar you have placed for us all!

QuoteThank you! I've got the bits I need to make part II of this and cover some other aspects of google sky, I just have to find the time to put it all together in a new video.

Right now Gill Broussard's claim has my attention, and then there's the whole spat regarding the false claim of a "winged planet" that was supposedly in the region I covered here.

Needless to say, that's not actually present here in the missing image, it's in a completely different part of Google sky.

Well, yeah, when you intentionally attempt to bamboozle peeps with your misleading coordinates just to protect your previous point.   :P


We invited Gill to join the conversation.

Quote from: astr0144 on June 27, 2015, 04:00:14 PM
I can see how it probably would have related to the 2012 myth at the time..maybe later they had suggested a 2nd date of May 2013..

Well it is a tradition :P Every time a Gloom and Doom prediction doesn't happen, someone comes along and sets a new date  based on... well who knows WHAT it is based on :P

Quotebut I think they did say it would be visible from Earth in may 2009.

Well Zeta Talk predicted it would be here in 2003  Many people sold everything and bought bunkers...  today it is 2015 and we still don't see it :D  Do you know how many people have telescopes? :P

QuoteIs it False or could there be truth to it ?
At the time I thought that it may have been a possibility. But I did not look into detail of the facts that you suggest were mainly created by Z Sitchen.

No not 'mainly"  ALL  Sitchin made an error in misinterpreting Sumerian text  and he made up Nibiru as a roque planet... The FIRST time anyone ever heard of Nibiru was when he released his book  "The 12th Planet" 1976 

Here is the wiki short version

Sitchin attributes the creation of the ancient Sumerian culture to the Anunnaki, which he states was a race of extraterrestrials from a planet beyond Neptune called Nibiru. He believed this hypothetical planet of Nibiru to be in an elongated, elliptical orbit in the Earth's own Solar System, asserting that Sumerian mythology reflects this view. Sitchin's books have sold millions of copies worldwide and have been translated into more than 25 languages.

Sitchin's ideas have been rejected by scientists and academics, who dismiss his work as pseudoscience and pseudohistory. His work has been criticized for flawed methodology and mistranslations of ancient texts as well as for incorrect astronomical and scientific claims

QuoteI came across the ref to the old Ancients such as the Sumerian and there was also mention of what I thought was a race of the  "Annunaki".

See above  Sitchin made them up too :P

but this article says they were Gods of the Sumerians who had Android beings..

Some suggestions that they may be like the Grey Aliens.  but there was also mention at the time of Giants that had come from the visiting Planet and had at one time been here on earth.

That was maybe why I thought it could have had possibilities.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/anunnaki/anu_1b.htm

QuoteIf not Nibiru.. is there a similar 10th Planet ? that may be a possibility to connect with the Anunnaki ?

People on the net have taken a whole bunch of unrelated stuff and created a fantasy Planet X is NOT the tenth planet... it is merely the next undiscovered planet. Pluto was Planet X originally.  The Brown Dwarf that NASA thinks might exist at the outer rim of the solar system close enough to cause comets to fall sunwrd... is called NEMESIS...

Annunaki of Nibiru... invented by Sitchin...

But since then everyone out to make a buck or sell fear have embellished the story

QuoteYes I think you can see it from the equator but it may also vary at the time of year and what part of the equator.. Not sure How the Earths 23 degree tilt may effect things in relation to the North Star !
Is it always aligned or does it wobble or vary with ref to the real North ?

Yes there is a slight wobble because the Earth wobbles as it rotates (gravity effect of the moon and sun :P

PS IF there was a huge planet or Dwarf Star that close the we could see it with the naked eye, you would feel a lot more wobble :D

QuoteIf one is Just below the equator or at the Southern tropics.. Can they see the North Star ?  ??? I don't think they could.

Just like we could NOT see the southern sky from just above the equator ! if for eg their was a object able to approach direct from the sky aline the mid South point axis.

WE wouldn't :P but everyon living in the SOUTHERN hemapsphere would You DO know there are people livng in the southern hemosphere yes?

No but you said Nibiru is coming from the South pole... The people who made that claim were to stupid to realize that;

1) there are many people living in Antarctica
2) There is a HUGE telescope in Antarctica
3) Everyone in the southern hemosphere would be able to see it :P

QuoteI am not sure if its all purely down to his theory !
or if other sources may have suggested it as possibility.

No there are no other sources  Sitchin made it up... everyone else came later and messed it up. BTW Sitchin never mentioned the Mayans :P That was book sellers later

QuoteThere MAY be some evidence to suggest some major Earth destructions back on cycles of 3600 yrs .. but you can only go back so far as to when its recorded by Man...

There are stories of the Sumerians and Tibetans of a planetary war... but NOT a recurring wandering planet...  That would be Tiamet  and it would have been in the Sumerian creation. But that war... left Mars scarred and barren and the other planet destroyed (see asteroid belt :P )

QuoteAnything else further back could only be done by Science !

Science cannot study something that does not exist. Science needs to have a solid thing to study. They have already rejected the theory of it as nonsence. But when NASA says "We found Planet X!"  people say "AH HA!!! Nibiru!"  but no  NASA says "No it is called Eris with moon Dysnomia"

When NASA says "There might be a dwarf star on the outskirts bumping comets towards the sun" people say "AH HA!!! Nibiru!"   NASA says "No it is NEMESIS"

QuoteIf it was for real that is a relief to know its 2900 AD!  :D

Sichin added that date AFTER people kept bugging him for a date :P He never had a date at the beginning...  So he made a date into the far future and gave it an explanation. :D

QuoteWas that purely my mistake or was there varitions  at the time leading into 2012 in the story that they considered Nibiru either a Planet or Brown Dwarf ?

Not your mistake as such... you are the victim of deliberate Obfuscation :P

But we HAVE covered all this before :D



Can you give a brief explanation what you meant by a Gate ? or cross point.

what has happened to Beth ? and Gigas ? Not seen any of them for a long time online ..
[/quote]

I don't claim to have taken maybe enough time to try and follow or understand the Google missing sky image.

Having taken a quick look at the video.

He refers to an older image from 1983..which I think he suggests may have flaws on it. that he downloads from somewhere to be able to place it over that part of the sky on googles sky map..But There is a Blue object that appears on the top left..

Later he refers to a photo  that he took in November of the same part of the sky and places that over the sky map and there is no blue object visible.

Then he says he went to Michigan Uni last month whenever that was, maybe late last year if his post was Jan 2015... to obtain what I think is either a original copy of the film Negative for that same sky area  ... I assume that its the same 1983 date... or is this a more updated copy.

IF its the same 1983 copy.. then I assume hes saying that that negative has NO Flaws on it.

and when he later places the copy he creates after doing his work to inverse the negative to become a photographic positive .. and places it back and overlays it  over the original area that he was looking at of google sky Map..

He then blends in his obtained plate image, over the sky part and the other image fades out.. and we see the top left image disappear.

He then suggest that Google sky were NOT covering anything up.

If it is an identical 1983 plate of what was the google sky plate that he originally showed... then he may have a point.

but if the dates of them vary... then something could have been in the original and appeared to have  moved if he obtained the new plate with an alternative date.

Other than that I may be missing something or have not caught on as yet.

I am not sure if he had taken other photos at other dates before the ones he says he took in November.

When you refer to Black Box is still there.. I assume that you do  mean the missing google map sky area is still blank with no stars today and its not as yet been filled in with the missing sky image !

QuoteHere, ngchunter emphatically states that the black box is still there.

Quote from: astr0144 on June 27, 2015, 11:59:24 PM
He then suggest that Google sky were NOT covering anything up.

WHY would Google cover up anything? :P

When I found the Russian Space Laser site on a very very fuzzy google earth image, they sent the satellite over that spot to get it in high res... The moderator posted that on their forum and thanked me.  My description is still the one marking that spat :D

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 27, 2015, 10:33:56 PM
That's the whole point of the conversation: why is not the object in the original photo and why did ngchunter post that he had found the missing piece, which has now been disproven by non other than Google?

ngchunter is a moron in my books :P  Much worse than Phage ever was. I did find it satisfying when an amateur astronomer nee satellite watcher spotted the then secret X37 space plane forcing NASA to release it on Space Weather LOL

Seeing him say "secret space plane" in posts as if it has ALWAYS been there was hilarious... after the grief he gave me an John in the secret spaceship thread LMAO

As for Google sky, Moon, Mars etc... They are the worst thing you can use. Always better to find their SOURCE photos because google stuff is so big it adds artifacts and looses data

And yes Google does hide stuff :P

Google Hides Military Base
Volkel, Uden, Netherlands
+51° 39' 27.92", +5° 42' 8.09"

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Nuke_Sites/Volkel_001.png)

I had "Boots on the ground at THIS one" because of this cover :D

Chukotka Russia
Unknown ICBM Facility
Chukotka Autonomous Okrug
No longer in Service?
66°15'42.71"N 179°14'47.77"E

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Russian_Base/Hump_002.png)

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 27, 2015, 10:33:56 PM
That's the whole point of the conversation: why is not the object in the original photo and why did ngchunter post that he had found the missing piece, which has now been disproven by non other than Google?

If the object is not in the original photo then it wasn't there when the photo was taken, or are you implying that the negative was altered?

And what was disproved by Google? ???

QuoteHere, ngchunter emphatically states that the black box is still there.

Because it is, I'm looking at it.

QuoteAnd states that the coordinates are wrong.

The coordinates posted for the "winged planet" are wrong when talking about that missing area of the sky that was the topic of that thread.

QuoteWTF? These are coordinates not discussed previously. What's going here?

Apparently there's some confusion about the topic of that thread.  ::)

QuoteSo, how did rdunk find this?

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10005/nibiru_coordinates.png)

Probably in the same way I did, by looking at those coordinates, in the same way I found the missing area by looking at the coordinates for that area.

Different areas, different coordinates. In the image below, the red marker shows the place of the "winged planet", the green marker the place of the missing area.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Ceu_1.jpg)

QuoteWell, yeah, when you intentionally attempt to bamboozle peeps with your misleading coordinates just to protect your previous point.   :P

I think you should think before talking about misleading coordinates.

WINGED PLANET FOUND?/Nibiru?/NASA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1I-eWF2N8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1I-eWF2N8

Images now being shown of Winged Planet, Could this be the Legendary Nibiru?
5 h 42m 21.0s 22° 36? 45.7? These are The Google Sky Coordinates.

CONTROVERSIAL, HEAVILY CENSORED, PLANETARY SYSTEM JUST REVEALED TO PUBLIC FOR FIRST TIME.

For years it has been speculated by conspiracy theorists and some astronomers that Google Sky had been censoring what's known as Planet X or Nibiru from the general public's view online.

Now, shockingly, a massive swath of Google Sky that had been previously blacked out and censored has been made visible by Google for your viewing pleasure.

I think this guy was the first :P

http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=39149

Quote from: ArMaP on June 28, 2015, 12:42:12 AM
Different areas, different coordinates. In the image below, the red marker shows the place of the "winged planet", the green marker the place of the missing area.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Ceu_1.jpg)

I think you should think before talking about misleading coordinates.

Yup I checked  get the same results  :P

Two things,,,  that green pin... is that not the area were Betelgeuse is? The star about to go super nova? Not sure have not checked yet...

The other thing... now that we KNOW the right coordinates can we find the original photo and find out what itt is SUPPOSED to be? (apologies if you already posted that)

I think it is more useful to identify it. If it is that Cannibal Star from 2007 then all this is "Much Ado About Nothing" ~ Sir Francis Bacon

::)

Quote from: astr0144 on June 27, 2015, 11:59:24 PM
He refers to an older image from 1983..which I think he suggests may have flaws on it. that he downloads from somewhere to be able to place it over that part of the sky on googles sky map..But There is a Blue object that appears on the top left..

He downloaded the image from the site that has all the images used by Google, the Digital Sky Survey.

QuoteOther than that I may be missing something or have not caught on as yet.

I think you got it all. :)

Quote from: zorgon on June 28, 2015, 12:53:14 AM
Two things,,,  that green pin... is that not the area were Betelgeuse is? The star about to go super nova? Not sure have not checked yet...

Almost, Betelgeuse is the star making the top left shoulder of Orion, above the green pin.

QuoteThe other thing... now that we KNOW the right coordinates can we find the original photo and find out what itt is SUPPOSED to be? (apologies if you already posted that)

I suppose we can. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on June 28, 2015, 01:01:01 AM
I suppose we can. :)

That would be nice  I want to know if it is the same as that star :D  I THINK it is.

That one is BP Piscium  but I don't have Google coordinates

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/BP_Piscium

Those coordinates (5h 42m 21s, +22d 36' 34.5") gave me this result. :)

The red channel.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/fitsview_red.jpg)

The blue channel.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/dss_search_blue.jpg)

The IR channel.
(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/dss_search_IR.jpg)

Here ya go Astro :P Just for you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jijqqZiZK6A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jijqqZiZK6A

BTW the date was 2014  they renamed that to 2015 :P

Only TWO MONTHS to wait :D

And this was on Coast to Coast so it MUST be true :D

As I had 3 images I made an RGB version, using the image from the IR channel as Red, the image from the red channel for Green and the image from the blue channel for Blue, and got this: :)

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/Ceu_2.jpg)


PS: I forgot to say that I got the images from here (http://archive.stsci.edu/cgi-bin/dss_form).

Now in the Other Corner...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLLYWaKDUQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgLLYWaKDUQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f07FnSeQt3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f07FnSeQt3w

Planet X / Nibiru due in 2016 says Outspoken Astronomer

This one says 2016  :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIbfA5Lv2o8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIbfA5Lv2o8

I suspect that with this Asteroid or September date being discussed that many of the "Planet X" hoaxers are back again and as you say some modifying old stuff to be updated.

Last time I may have been considering looking for a safe haven.. but I am now a bit tired of it and think I will take my chances and stay put..  :)

Unless I see it in the sky  in the coming weeks   :o :P

QuoteBTW the date was 2014  they renamed that to 2015 :P

Only TWO MONTHS to wait :D

And this was on Coast to Coast so it MUST be true :D

Befote September...we better take a look at 2015 HM10 ...

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2015%20HM10;orb=1

I can see you mentioned it earlier. for July 7th.

Unless its very large... as long as it passes distance of the moon away , I would hope we will be safe  :-\

Unfortunately I am not able to see the webpage properly ...seems my Java may have a problem.

Does it indicate  something to be concerned about would you think ?

QuoteBut....2015 HM10 will pass earth at just over the same distance as the moon on July 7th. ..

Quote from: larishira on June 28, 2015, 04:03:26 AM
Befote September...we better take a look at 2015 HM10 ...

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2015%20HM10;orb=1

Quote from: astr0144 on June 28, 2015, 04:42:09 AM
I can see you mentioned it earlier. for July 7th.

Unless its very large... as long as it passes distance of the moon away , I would hope we will be safe  :-\

Unfortunately I am not able to see the webpage properly ...seems my Java may have a problem.

Does it indicate  something to be concerned about would you think ?

Take a look at this video!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OMtycXOIRE

Maybe some of you are prepared if the worst should happen.. Seems many are giving the warning to prepare with other locations etc that has been said by many of the "Planet X" educators .

Just hope that it misses and even if its a moon distance away that it doesn't hit the moon  :o or we will be in trouble  ???  Fingers crossed  :)

Quote from: ArMaP on June 27, 2015, 09:24:42 PM
The object is not on the original photo, what more do you need to know? ???
Now I know what you meant, thanks. :)

ok.
I now know what you meant as well.
No hard feelings.

I guess that leaves us still with a winged planet, star, object.... thingy? :)

Quote from: larishira on June 28, 2015, 04:03:26 AM
Befote September...we better take a look at 2015 HM10 ...

Sooner or later....  a giant space rock will wipe us out :P

If they keep making dates they will eventually be right :D

I have documented about 200 huge craters on Earth so far and not finished yet

Impact Craters on Earth: Australia

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Earth/Craters/Australia_Map.jpg)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Earth_Images_06.html

Impact Craters on Earth: Africa

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Earth/Craters/Africa_Map.jpg)

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Earth_Images_08.html


I have several pieces of Meteorites from some of these in Africa

Quote from: astr0144 on June 28, 2015, 04:42:09 AM
I can see you mentioned it earlier. for July 7th.

Closest approach appears to be July 7th or 8th.

QuoteUnless its very large... as long as it passes distance of the moon away , I would hope we will be safe  :-\

Closest approach around 0.0032 AU. The distance between the Earth and the Moon is 0.0026.

QuoteUnfortunately I am not able to see the webpage properly ...seems my Java may have a problem.

Are you using Chrome? They disabled Java.

Daniel Holdings of hebrew nation radio interviews Gil Broussard on PlanrtX, Nibiru, Wormwood...


Published on Jun 3, 2015
Video is mirrored from Planet7X youtube channel.
Here's the link for Planet7X youtube channel
Planet7X (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkADhlWdCVcsB6GKsYWZ4XQ)



Former Host of Coast To Coast AM John B Wells is now in control on Caravan To Midnight


Published on Jun 9, 2015
Episode 305 – Incoming: Planet 7x... We are taken along by Gill Broussard for a pictorial journey through the solar system for a glimpse at what may be in our near future.

Quote from: ArMaP on June 28, 2015, 12:54:35 PM
Closest approach appears to be July 7th or 8th.
Closest approach around 0.0032 AU. The distance between the Earth and the Moon is 0.0026.
Are you using Chrome? They disabled Java.

0.0032?
I find that number to be very... interesting.

Source: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/

(http://i.imgur.com/zWyNJKS.jpg)

So I've been rolling my eye balls at some of the content on here recently...

What's all this about an asteroid and Nibiru?

How are WE supposed to investigate if there's an asteroid heading ourway?
Even if there was, what are we supposed to do about it?
Not stop it I hope. Best thing that could happen to this planet is an ELE.

I avoided the doom-porn bash, because that's just as unproductive.
But fek it. I'm in a pissed mood anyway - over the government and humanity in general, as always.

Cba to read all 6 pages.. Was it solved? Is there an asteroid heading our way?
If so, I'll make my way to the projected point of impact.

Still love you Thor.... But...

Sidenote: Just wastched the first installment of a BBC series called Odyssey regarding a conspiracy surrounding the deaths of Seal Team 6.

How in your face.

Quote from: larishira on June 28, 2015, 11:11:49 PM
Source: http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/ca/

(http://i.imgur.com/zWyNJKS.jpg)

Moon impact perhaps? Earth-bound disaster ensues?

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on June 28, 2015, 11:21:33 PM
Moon impact perhaps? Earth-bound disaster ensues?

I don´t thing so....same for Nabiru..Planet X....it's just to make us focus....

Something that i remember very well...its a 2019 asteroid....very very danger, at the time, in 2001...we pretty sure about the impact...now, i dont know,,,,..
I'll try check it out... :-*

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on June 28, 2015, 10:57:11 PM
0.0032?
I find that number to be very... interesting.

Could you be more specific? :)

Quote from: this_is_who_we_are on June 28, 2015, 11:21:33 PM
Moon impact perhaps? Earth-bound disaster ensues?

Not according to the distances on that table, as it says that the minimum distance between the asteroid and the Moon will be some 0.0027 AU.

PS: that table is better than the information on the Java applet, nice find, larishira. :)

Quote from: ArMaP on June 28, 2015, 11:39:58 PM
Not according to the distances on that table, as it says that the minimum distance between the asteroid and the Moon will be some 0.0027 AU.

PS: that table is better than the information on the Java applet, nice find, larishira. :)

actually....if you go to end of the page...have the link close approach data....

and this link...you can find the current impact risks

http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/risk/

Quote from: Sinny on June 28, 2015, 11:15:40 PM
What's all this about an asteroid and Nibiru?

Every 6 months or so... something moving in space stirs the Nibiru pot :P But Sitchin says it won't be here till 2900 AD  I find it amusing that people took Sitchins word for it that it was REAL but don't listen to what he said the arrival date is

::)

QuoteHow are WE supposed to investigate if there's an asteroid heading ourway?

We can't  Space Rocks were CLASSIFIED in 2008. Remeber that big Russian meteorite? NASA didn't see it coming :P so how are "We the people.." going to? Until its looming overhead :P

QuoteEven if there was, what are we supposed to do about it?

Point up at it looming over head and say "ZOMG!!! We are TOAST!"  then kiss your ass goodbye

QuoteNot stop it I hope. Best thing that could happen to this planet is an ELE.

I think NASA has a plan to catch them and bring them home :P
http://www.space.com/20610-nasa-asteroid-capture-mission-infographic.html

Silly NASA  ::)

Lets hope that is well enough to avoid hitting either the Earth or Moon then...Just have to hope nothing else may hit  it to deflect it either way.  ???

QuoteClosest approach around 0.0032 AU. The distance between the Earth and the Moon is 0.0026.

Zorgon and yourself mentioned about some of the issues with google in another thread that I had a problem with trying to open a PDF ..on Bob Lazar.

You did manage to help me with that with another download link.

Yes I had the issue with Google Chrome. And I also presently have issues with Firefox for certain applications for videos..and maybe Java.

I have a main problem with IE at the moment but this is due to a problem with my Windows Software.

With my present Laptop I have had certain problems with it for some time that I cannot resolve until I obtain a copy of Windows XP Pro Installation CD.

Unfortunately when I purchased my Dell Laptop.. it only came with an already installed version..It did not have a Windows CD if anything should go wrong.
I would have had to buy a copy that just before they stopped updates for Windows XP it would have cost more than what my computer was worth as its now old.

I could probably pick a copy up on ebay.

The other issue I have is the hard drive was replaced from the original. and I THINK when one installs a Windows CD.. they have to enter a serial number at the bottom of the Laptop. This was for an earlier Windows XP version...

So I am not really sure if I obtain another copy of Windows XP Pro CD if I can also maybe get away with installing that without having to enter the serial number.. as it maybe that some Windows CDs also come with another Type of number that one can enter ..

Its all gone a bit of a pain when dealing with different software versions and old Laptops if anything goes wrong.

Do you know of any other browser that you may now recommend ?

QuoteAre you using Chrome? They disabled Java.

Quote from: astr0144 on June 29, 2015, 02:28:54 AM
Zorgon and yourself mentioned about some of the issues with google in another thread that I had a problem with trying to open a PDF ..on Bob Lazar.

You did manage to help me with that with another download link.

Yes I had the issue with Google Chrome. And I also presently have issues with Firefox for certain applications for videos..and maybe Java.

I have a main problem with IE at the moment but this is due to a problem with my Windows Software.

Chrome is dumping most plugins all together  Adobe, Silverlight Quicktime etc  I think all it will do is piss everyone off because websites use those plugins  Nevada state gov uses silverlight  Back use it  etc  This will mess things up until they sort it

Firefox the same thing

Adobe flash has been updating weekly and the browsers try to keep up  I think they got fed up

IE is being dropped by windows entirely

So no  I do not have any browser options

Fortunately I Frame  works on all browsers  but that meand I manually have to edit each entry on thousands of web pages that have an affected link

This even porced Amazon links to change  Fortunately all my Amazon links are text only  save the one on the side bar and bottom


So 
I AM NOT AMUSED 

Quote from: zorgon on June 29, 2015, 05:37:13 AM
Chrome is dumping most plugins all together  Adobe, Silverlight Quicktime etc  I think all it will do is piss everyone off because websites use those plugins  Nevada state gov uses silverlight  Back use it  etc  This will mess things up until they sort it

Firefox the same thing

Adobe flash has been updating weekly and the browsers try to keep up  I think they got fed up

IE is being dropped by windows entirely

So no  I do not have any browser options

Fortunately I Frame  works on all browsers  but that meand I manually have to edit each entry on thousands of web pages that have an affected link

This even porced Amazon links to change  Fortunately all my Amazon links are text only  save the one on the side bar and bottom


So 
I AM NOT AMUSED 

I have been puzzled by all these things as well. And it just hit me: an answer to why they're doing this that is.

Hegelian Dialectic. They're creating problems with all these browsers in order to corral us into their browser of choice (to be announced). All part of the surveillance state. Eventually we'll have to "choose" to use some new yet to be mentioned browser that I'm sure everyone will agree is "the best browser ever!".

Mark my words.

Quote from: larishira on June 28, 2015, 11:28:07 PM
I don´t thing so....same for Nabiru..Planet X....it's just to make us focus....

I would propose the opposite..

Quote from: astr0144 on June 29, 2015, 02:28:54 AM
Unfortunately when I purchased my Dell Laptop.. it only came with an already installed version..It did not have a Windows CD if anything should go wrong.

It probably had a separate partition with the Windows installation files on it, some years ago the computer makers started doing this, the user is the one that has to create a disk with the files on that special (sometimes hidden) partition, usually with a program supplied by, in this case, Dell.

QuoteThe other issue I have is the hard drive was replaced from the original. and I THINK when one installs a Windows CD.. they have to enter a serial number at the bottom of the Laptop. This was for an earlier Windows XP version...

You probably lost that installation partition then. :(

QuoteSo I am not really sure if I obtain another copy of Windows XP Pro CD if I can also maybe get away with installing that without having to enter the serial number.. as it maybe that some Windows CDs also come with another Type of number that one can enter ..

There are several versions of XP and you cannot install one version with the number from a different version.

QuoteDo you know of any other browser that you may now recommend ?

I use mostly Opera and IE, the new Opera is based on Chromium and has some of Chrome's characteristics, but Java works as expected. :)

Thanks "Z" and ArMaP for the information and advice.

It is hard to think that they could be doing this in what seems rather a short time frame and on a large scale.

I wonder if they may come out with a new browser that we have to pay for... if not that then maybe ...

I think that "this_is_who_we_are" (TIWWA ) may be right...

If its google...and they are involved with the Govt surveillance which I think many into what we discuss on PRC may consider probable...that  they are planning something soon to arrive as an answer to this problem that these services seem to have created without seeming to offer any alternative suggestions.

IF you had not informed me I would not have had a clue what is going on !




Zorgon

QuoteChrome is dumping most plugins all together  Adobe, Silverlight Quicktime etc  I think all it will do is piss everyone off because websites use those plugins  Nevada state gov uses silverlight  Back use it  etc  This will mess things up until they sort it

I was thinking if I was able to get a cheap original version or maybe a copy of Windows XP Pro.. which seems to be available on Ebay. that if I recall some seemed to suggest that they include a serial number with them...so in my case as my original version was Windows XP home edition.. when I had another hard drive fitted on this machine.. it came with a copy of Windows XP Pro.

So I cannot use the serial number on the bottom of my machine as that was for the home edition...but if I can get a Windows XP Pro CD from ebay which comes with a serial number.... Hopefully I can enter that number and it will work !

Not heard of Opera before...
I will have a look at it, if IE may also now have issues as "Z" suggests..

QuoteI use mostly Opera and IE, the new Opera is based on Chromium and has some of Chrome's characteristics, but Java works as expected. :)

ArMaP

QuoteThere are several versions of XP and you cannot install one version with the number from a different version.

Not heard that term before...

http://www.infowars.com/the-hegelian-dialectic-and-its-use-in-controlling-modern-society/

QuoteAnother form of the Hegelian Dialectic is Problem – Reaction – Solution. Most of us unwittingly fall victim to it all too often and sadly if we don't stop, we will continue to lose our free will and liberties.

this_is_who_we_are

QuoteHegelian Dialectic. They're creating problems with all these browsers in order to corral us into their browser of choice (to be announced). All part of the surveillance state. Eventually we'll have to "choose" to use some new yet to be mentioned browser that I'm sure everyone will agree is "the best browser ever!".

Mark my words.

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 04, 2015, 02:01:12 AM

What about Gill Broussard?

Who?

::)

Greetings Zorgon:

We figured a better response from, you - especially you - after all the derailing attempts on this, what we feel, is a potentially important thread.

What if any part of what of we have previously presented is in any way real?

All we are attempting to do is awake anyone who might be intelligent interested enough to hear/see/listen and PREPARE.

That is all.

You mock ngchunter from Tango because of his assessment and as yet You have not directly addressed the 'disclosure' by Google Earth of the previously blocked-out portion of space theoretically hiding 'Nibiru'...which, of course, doesn't exist.:P

Everyone attacked me, the messenger, and said nothing about Google Earth.   :(

Never before in history has so many 'clues' been left - just in movies - well, there were a few for 911...but NO OTHER INSTANCE ever before.

Directly debunk Gill Broussard, if you can.

Make your best case as to why so many things point to 23 September 2015.

rdunk, please weigh in here with your interpretation, analysis and personal thoughts regarding the Day of Atonement, among other Biblical prophecy.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

(http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/04images/Bluebird/lg50aa500a.gif)

With great respect,
tfw
Peace Love Light
Liberty & Equality or Revolution

Hec'el oinipikte  (that we shall live)

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 05, 2015, 01:46:32 AM
Everyone attacked me, the messenger, and said nothing about Google Earth.   :(

I asked a question that you didn't answer, now you complain that everyone said nothing about it.  ::)

"rdunk, please weigh in here with your interpretation, analysis and personal thoughts regarding the Day of Atonement, among other Biblical prophecy.

Thank you for your time and consideration."


Well thorfourwinds, there are things that are happening, and are going to happen, that are beyond the tip of man's conjecture. However, it was on similar questions that Jesus spoke directly to the people, when some had asked, "Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things come to pass? (Luke 21.7) Most of Luke 21 discusses the details of the coming end time.

We truly can't know that September 2015 is or isn't a piece of what is being discussed in Luke 21! But, There are some things known to be occurring is September 2015. One of these things is "the Day of Atonement', also known as "Yom Kippur", which is the holiest day of the year for all Jews. It is a day spent by the Jews in prayer and in solemn time with family and God. In 2015, this day will be on September 23. Another significant event to happen in September 2015 will be the eclipse of the 4th red blood moon of the current tetrad group of 4 consecutive red blood moon eclipses. This 4th blood moon will occur on September 28, 2015. Another scripture worth noting is Luke 21:25 -"And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;"

So......The holiest day of the year for the Jews, the Day of Atonement is happening in September 2015, and a red blood moon eclipse is happening in September 2015. And Bible scripture does say that in the end time happenings, there will be signs in the moon as well!l And for many of us, the signs of the day, especially the signs of hatred toward the Jews and the Christians, are well within the scope of what Jesus spoke about in Luke 21!

Thor, whether this September will openly mark the beginning of the end or the END, I do not know. But because of all of the signs I have been seeing, and all of us are seeing, in the world for sometime now, I continually say, "THERE IS NOT MUCH TIME LEFT!! 

In any case, I am looking forward to September 2015, and we shall see what we shall see!!! :)) ††

That is  thought provoking reading Rdunk with ref to the bible and Moon for September.

I wonder also if some planetary alignment  or astrological / or other Astronomical event may occur ...(Hoping  not a Asteroid collision )

Just hope you are wrong...in a worse case scenerio..

but maybe if we had something happen that would help change things for the better somehow...that would be more appealing  ???

But it may be worth trying to do some things that one has been putting off and to take some time doing stuff one would really like to do each day for the next 49 days or so...just in case the worst should happen.

May take a trip I keep putting off...

QuoteIn 2015, this day will be on September 23. Another significant event to happen in September 2015 will be the eclipse of the 4th red blood moon of the current tetrad group of 4 consecutive red blood moon eclipses. This 4th blood moon will occur on September 28, 2015. Another scripture worth noting is Luke 21:25 -"And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;"

QuoteThor, whether this September will openly mark the beginning of the end or the END, I do not know. But because of all of the signs I have been seeing, and all of us are seeing, in the world for sometime now, I continually say, "THERE IS NOT MUCH TIME LEFT!! 

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 05, 2015, 01:46:32 AM
Greetings Zorgon:

We figured a better response from, you - especially you - after all the derailing attempts on this, what we feel, is a potentially important thread.

Ah my bad  Your Wolfie said "Try and stop me" so I put a no Wolfie stamp on him

QuoteWhat if any part of what of we have previously presented is in any way real?

Well as far as I am cocerned Nibiru is a big hoax that was invented by Sitchin and should have died with him (RIP Zecharia)  so forgive me if I cannot take it seriously

Jade Helm as far as I can see is just an exercise that may be needed because of the change in warfare coming soon. Is the threat created by TPTB?  Maybe...  But today I went out to enjoy the 4th of July and the only trouble I saw was a couple college students who were drunk setting off fireworks in the parking garage where we were watching the entire strip (and city) from the roof.  The cops handled them very nicely despite the fact they were being nasty... and calmly diffused the situation and released them

So at the moment  All quiet on the home front..

IF an asteroid IS coming to wipe us out, well I am about as prepared as any one CAN be  Have many tents and full camping gear to support about 40 people and food to last at least a year. If the NAVAL SPACE COMMAND doesn't have spacecraft out there with weapons enough to destroy any incoming space rock, then we truly have no Secret Space Cadre and my time here has been a total waste and we are all TOAST like the Dinos were...

But ever since I got into all this stuff there has been an asteroid going to wipe us out every couple months, comets that are really disguised Alien spaceships, Jupiter size spaceships sucking up our sun, Aliens under every bed, the Sky is falling and the government is poisoning us with chemical sprayed out of airliners....

::)

And after all is said and done... nothing ever happens  except that meteorite that NASA missed in Russia :P


So when does creating awareness become crying Wolf?

QuoteAll we are attempting to do is awake anyone who might be intelligent interested enough to hear/see/listen and PREPARE.

Prepare for what? Prepare HOW?  I created a huge thread back at the begiining on HOW to prepare... it got wiped out and I never redid it  because lack of interest...

Going around crying  WAKE UP SHEEPLE... THE SKY WILL FALL  does not really work very well Even if people believe it will happen... they have no idea what to do in case it does...

If an asteroid is going to hit us... it will likely wipe out most life on Earth... even going into bunkers won't help a lot.  If its only a small asteroid, where will it hit? Moscow?  Rome?

teach people to be generally prepared for ANY emergency... tell them where they could go to ralley support... Project Avalon had a GOOD IDEA but they dropped the ball,,,,  Anonymous could pick up that ball and run with it

The ball was setting up support groups in cities... a group that people could turn to when the SHTF...  There is safety and comfort in numbers in times of need. Anonymous is a large group. They could set this up if they wanted to

Turn the Gloom and Doom predictions that rarely if ever come to pass into TRUE construcive programs to prepare people

I will actually start that thread again... just because it might help someone who reads it on the website

Is THAT a better answer?

::)


But I still think stamping the Wolfie was funny :P

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 05, 2015, 01:46:32 AM
Everyone attacked me, the messenger, and said nothing about Google Earth.   :(

I have always said that Google Earth, Moon and Mars is a useless tool because of the way they add artifacts. Why would anyone use such a tool with such obvious errors when the original source images are available?

And we don't shoot messengers here... maybe just flog them a bit when they yell to much :P

QuoteNever before in history has so many 'clues' been left - just in movies - well, there were a few for 911...but NO OTHER INSTANCE ever before.

The End 2000  all sorts of clues pointing to that end including  Nostradamus... in fact his quatrains ending Dec 1999 was the main point that was 'proof' of the end.

We are still here, and oddly enough now Nostradamus is good to 2525

The End 2012.... tons of clues pointing to that end, the return of the Ancient Gods to enslave us all and the Mayan calendar ending was "proof" of the end

We are still here...

EVENTUALLY SOMETHING will happen... and all the Gloom Merchants will jump up and down and scream... "See? We TOLD you so!"

QuoteDirectly debunk Gill Broussard, if you can.

As I said above...WHO is he? never heard of him and I don't listen to religious salesmen anyway

QuoteMake your best case as to why so many things point to 23 September 2015.

Why? I am not aware of anything pointing to that date beyoun what has been brought up here  1947 was a nexus Year and we survived that too

WHAT IF... there are a sufficiently large enough group of GOOD Illuminating protecting this planet and that is why so far none of the previous predictions have come true?

Yes there are many "New Age Light Workers" that jump on the band wagon and take credit when things don't happens

If Nemesis is the so called mystery Brown Dwarf second sun that is suggested as being in our Solar System.

Has it ever been suggested or Could it be that the "Planet X" .... Nibiru if it exists..that it rotates or is on a very long term 3600 year orbit around BOTH Nemesis and our Sun...  I wonder ?


Zorgon.

QuotePeople on the net have taken a whole bunch of unrelated stuff and created a fantasy Planet X is NOT the tenth planet... it is merely the next undiscovered planet. Pluto was Planet X originally.  The Brown Dwarf that NASA thinks might exist at the outer rim of the solar system close enough to cause comets to fall sunwrd... is called NEMESIS...

Quote from: astr0144 on July 05, 2015, 06:56:29 PM
Has it ever been suggested or Could it be that the "Planet X" .... Nibiru if it exists..that it rotates or is on a very long term 3600 year orbit around BOTH Nemesis and our Sun...  I wonder ?

Where did you get the 3600 year orbit from?

I have seen ref to it ever since I found out about Planet "X"...and in one of your earlier posts on this thread  :)

Maybe you are indicating it was purely what Z Sitchen wrote. Maybe that is where it originates from. and I can see that you suggested it was later indicated Nibiru's revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years.


But It may have also come from other sources I read as being 3600 yrs.

whether its 3600 or 3450 or what ever...

I am mainly wondering if a Brown Dwarf exists in our Solar system... could a planet orbit both the Sun an d Brown dwarf ?

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8316.msg115834#msg115834

Quote"Nibiru settled into a clockwise orbit (equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun). Nibiru stabilized into a clockwise orbit, equal to 3,600 orbits of Earth around the Sun until 10, 900 B.C.E., when Nibiru arrived earlier, due to increasing drift from Solaris of Uranus. Uranus' gravity sped Nibiru's orbit. As a result of this close encounter between Nibiru and Uranus, one of Nibiru's moons, Miranda, was captured by and became a moon of Uranus as Nibiru and Uranus pulled at each other. From 10,000B.C.E. on, Nibiru's revolution sped to 3.450 Earth years; which makes Nibiru's next return 2900A.D. rather than 2012 as predicated on the earlier 3600- year orbit"

Quote
Where did you get the 3600 year orbit from?

Quote from: astr0144 on July 05, 2015, 07:19:23 PM
Maybe you are indicating it was purely what Z Sitchen wrote. Maybe that is where it originates from.

::)

QuoteBut It may have also come from other sources.

No... there are no other sources for Nibiru :D

3600 years   THINK about this number....

Lets say for the sake of calculation that it comes in Sept 2015   okay? (As it didn't make it for 2012 as promised)

That would mean the last time it was here was 1585 BC   Is there any record in our history showing that a huge planet appeared in 1585 BC?

Quotehttp://www.thelivingmoon.com/forum/index.php?topic=8316.msg115834#msg115834

Yes that is from Sitchens book "End of Days"  which he wrote because people kept pressuring him to give a date :P  So that date he gave is 2900 AD   

So I wouldn't worry about it... because when pressured he simply made up another goo story to explain why it would be late :D

No I am not really worrying about it..

I am just suggesting a possibility if it or Nemesis did exist and had some form of 3600 yr or maybe say for eg..a 6000 yr or more orbit..

Maybe there is other suggestions to this other theory than just "Z Sitchens " book or theory...

I am not sure what may have occurred back in around 1585 BC...

what if it was a similar theory but with a longer term orbit...say for eg a 4000 to 6000 yr orbit..

Is there any evidence that some destruction took place on Earth...back in 1585 BC..I am not sure..

I think there may have been destruction however some time maybe within 1000 yrs before..

I cant recall how long a period the bible may cover...
in terms of Human History. I don't just mean since creation of the Heavens and Earth..although some facts may suggest other possible events..

but The Bible may suggest some more recent egs..

Such as Noah's Ark as a type of example...was there real facts that may have occurred that Earth destruction took place..I believe I recall something was  suggested there was some evidence to suggest it may have occurred..

You can only go back so far to find written records..
not that far at all if i recall..maybe only 10 to 20,000 yrs...

Drawings admittedly since stone age man.

there is various geological records that do show times when some form of destruction took place on Earth... are there any that suggest long term Consistent cycles.. may be the question we would need to initially consider ..


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recorded_history

QuoteAs you can see from Table 1, the year in which the Flood came was 1656 AM1 (Anno Mundi – "year of the world"). From the rest of the Old Testament and other well-documented historical events we understand that creation, as calculated by Ussher, was about 4004 BC. So with a little more math we can calculate the second date.

Calculated BC date for creation:   4004
Calculated AM date for the Flood:   - 1656
Calculated BC date for the Flood:   2348
Current Year (minus one2):   + 2011
Number of years since beginning of Flood:

https://answersingenesis.org/bible-timeline/timeline-for-the-flood/

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 05, 2015, 07:53:12 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-_GkBsLTs

A Summary Of Events of Planet-7X - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-_GkBsLTs)

Published on Jun 28, 2013

Still no answer to my question...  ::)

Would you please repeat the exact question?

Some questions to try to recheck or research and confirm...

I am sure they have been answered on PRC somewhere.

How Long has man been on Earth ?

This suggest not very long in terms of Earths History !

Maybe 2 million yrs or so.

More modern man only 50,000 to 100,000 yrs ago

There would not be that many 3600 or  6000 yr cycles in this 100K yr period..

100,000 / 3600 = only about 28 times

More advanced man may have only been less than 10000 yrs ago....so relatively few records recorded.

It seems even cave paintings only go back 40,000 yrs..

40,000 / 3600 cycle = only 11 times its occurred since then...

so NO recordings are likely to be indicated before then in terms of actual human recordings..

Only Science can suggest when other events occurred by geological records..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_painting

in say the last  6000 to 10,000 yrs...since record may have began  there would only be 2 to 3 cycles of 3600 yrs.. one maybe Noahs Ark !

so there may be very few records of it having occurred..

by coincidence... in the last hour a TV program just came on about Noah's Ark.

There was some various versions discussed...

one version suggested a longer past historical period when it occurred with a  Flood event that was 5000 yrs BC...

Thats about 7000 yrs ago.

7200 yrs would be 2 x 3600....

2 Cycles of 3600 yrs.

if we did see something that occurred say 3600 yrs ago... that may suggest a cycle period that one would be looking for...

QuoteHomo erectus and Homo ergaster were also the first of the hominin line to leave Africa, and these species spread through Africa, Asia, and Europe between 1.3 to 1.8 million years ago.
According to the recent African origin of modern humans theory, modern humans evolved in Africa possibly from Homo heidelbergensis, Homo rhodesiensis or Homo antecessor and migrated out of the continent some 50,000 to 100,000 years ago,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution

How long ago since man started to record things ?

How Long have written record been available ?

Not sure if this article is correct or not... but I seem to recall trying to research this last time the Nibiru story came about in 2009.

I think it was hard to find any records prior to 5000 to 10,000 yrs ago..

so very few records would be available to indicate any past planet destruction other than Bible stories or drawings..


this suggests when record began on a google search.

it was the top search for .

"how far back do written records go"

QuoteHOW FAR BACK DO THE RECORDS GO? 2

If mankind has been on earth over a million years, as the evolutionists tell us, then why do the records of their activity only go back a few thousand years. The evidence agrees with the Bible account, not with the evolutionists. Evolutionary theory is a myth. God created everything; the evidence clearly points to it. Nothing else can explain the mountain of evidence. This is science vs. evolution—a Creation-Evolution Encyclopedia, brought to you by Creation Science Facts.

CONTENT: How Far Back do the Records Go? 2

Languages: Ancient languages never back beyond c. 3000 B.C., and radiate outward from Mesopotamia
Ancient Historical Records: The oldest dates go back to about 3000 B.C.
The Oldest People: They do not go back before c. 3000 B.C., and were located in Mesopotamia
Conclusion: Man, whom the evolutionists claim to have come into existence over a million years ago, is said to have "stopped evolving" 100,000 years ago. Why then do we not have at least 100,000 years of civilizations, cities, and human remains?

http://www.pathlights.com/ce_encyclopedia/Encyclopedia/05agee6.htm

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 05, 2015, 08:18:50 PM
Would you please repeat the exact question?

Back on reply #51 you wrote:

QuoteThat's the whole point of the conversation: why is not the object in the original photo and why did ngchunter post that he had found the missing piece, which has now been disproven by non other than Google?

and I asked "what was disproved by Google?" on reply #57.

QuoteIf the object is not in the original photo then it wasn't there when the photo was taken, or are you implying that the negative was altered?

And what was disproved by Google? ?

The coordinates posted for the "winged planet" are wrong when talking about that missing area of the sky that was the topic of that thread.

Greetings World:

So, BP EARTHWATCH was hoodwinked by Google Earth.

And, as we have not been led astray by BPE in the past, we passed the information along so others might comment.

Thank you for your comments.

Now, the question is: WHY?

Why the apparent deception by GoogleEarth coming to light at this particular time in our lives?

And why did my Peggy experience just turn to white...completely destroying all the previous colored type...:P

UPDATE:
Thank you Zorgon. We understand and are standing by.

I also wondered why !

thought that it was just my computer..

QuoteAnd why did my Peggy experience just turn to white...completely destroying all the previous colored type...:P

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 05, 2015, 08:51:35 PM
So, BP EARTHWATCH was hoodwinked by Google Earth.

How was he/she/it hoodwinked? ???

QuoteThank you for your comments.

I would prefer a clear answer to my question.  ::)

QuoteWhy the apparent deception by GoogleEarth coming to light at this particular time in our lives?

What apparent deception? ???

Still no clear answer to my questions, as usual. ::)

It looks like posting videos and misleading information is easy, but giving clear answers is hard.  :P

Quote from: ArMaP on July 25, 2015, 04:11:12 PM
It looks like posting videos and misleading information is easy, but giving clear answers is hard.  :P

Quite true :P  You see it at NASA, you see it in Religions and you see it in main stream media.

Sensationalism, false flag news and news embellished with photos not relevant to the article...

But TRUTH and HARD INFO?

"Never let truth get in the way of a good story" ~ Mark Twain

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 27, 2015, 10:33:56 PM
That's the whole point of the conversation: why is not the object in the original photo and why did ngchunter post that he had found the missing piece, which has now been disproven by non other than Google?

It has not been disproven by google.  Read the damn coordinates.  The coordinates of the "winged star" are not a match for the missing section of google sky.  It's in a completely different region of the sky over 28 degrees away from the missing section.  I told this to you on the other forum, but you have chosen to ignore me and instead spread lies and false information about what I proved.  Big mistake.  Here I am!  By your own claim, the coordinates of the winged object are 5 h 42m 21.0s 22° 36' 45.7".  The coordinates of the missing section however are 5h 53m 27s, -6d 10' 56".  And yes, it's still missing!
http://i.imgur.com/yB3W7nt.jpg

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 27, 2015, 10:33:56 PM
Here, ngchunter emphatically states that the black box is still there.

And states that the coordinates are wrong.

WTF? These are coordinates not discussed previously. What's going here?

Yes, those ARE the coordinates discussed previously in my video, yes those ARE the coordinates of the missing section, no those are NOT the coordinates of the "winged star" which has ALWAYS been visible on Google sky.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWmIOfyvo5E
It's just a T Tauri star and reflection nebula GN 05.39.2.  It's not new, it's not unique, it's not unexplained.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=784fa0aCgfg

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 27, 2015, 10:33:56 PM
Well, yeah, when you intentionally attempt to bamboozle peeps with your misleading coordinates just to protect your previous point.   :P

That's rich coming from a liar like you.

Quote from: thorfourwinds on June 27, 2015, 10:33:56 PM
We invited Gill to join the conversation.

Yet strangely he remains in hiding.

Quote from: zorgon on June 28, 2015, 12:36:51 AM
ngchunter is a moron in my books :P  Much worse than Phage ever was. I did find it satisfying when an amateur astronomer nee satellite watcher spotted the then secret X37 space plane forcing NASA to release it on Space Weather LOL

Oh really moron?  I was the amateur astronomer nee satellite tracker who spotted the then secret X37 space plane, "forcing" NASA to release it on space weather!  I was the first to characterize its ability to produce bright visual flares!
"X-37B FLARE: On May 25th, amateur astronomer Scott Ferguson witnessed an "X-37B flare." As the US Air Force space plane glided across the night sky of Bradenton, Florida, "it brightened to magnitude -0.8, about twice the brightness of Arcturis," he reports. Sunlight must be glinting from a flat surface, perhaps the space plane's solar panels or the interior of the payload bay. Readers, turn your cell phone into a space plane tracker and be alert for flares."
http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=28&month=05&year=2010
That was ME you moron!

Quote from: zorgon on June 28, 2015, 12:36:51 AM
Seeing him say "secret space plane" in posts as if it has ALWAYS been there was hilarious... after the grief he gave me an John in the secret spaceship thread LMAO

Yes, where are those "secret space stations" that John claimed the shuttle was docking to?  After all, you just admitted that amateur astronomers, specifically me, are capable of seeing secret spacecraft.  So why didn't I see the shuttle docking to space stations other than ISS (and Mir before it)?

Quote from: zorgon on June 28, 2015, 12:36:51 AM
As for Google sky, Moon, Mars etc... They are the worst thing you can use. Always better to find their SOURCE photos because google stuff is so big it adds artifacts and looses data

Which is exactly what I said in my video that you clearly didn't watch.

Quote from: thorfourwinds on July 05, 2015, 08:51:35 PM
And, as we have not been led astray by BPE in the past, we passed the information along so others might comment.

Bahahaha!  That's hilarious!  One of my favorite BPE "episodes:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AUljj2XTSI
The truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXzRai-Z_CA

Quote from: ngchunter on July 27, 2015, 04:59:10 PM
Bahahaha!  That's hilarious!  One of my favorite BPE "episodes:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AUljj2XTSI
The truth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXzRai-Z_CA

And another more recent BPE screw-up if you prefer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGwP6RcD-t4

*Crickets*
Yeah, that's what I thought...

Quote from: ngchunter on July 27, 2015, 04:52:10 PM
I was the amateur astronomer nee satellite tracker who spotted the then secret X37 space plane, "forcing" NASA to release it on space weather!  I was the first to characterize its ability to produce bright visual flares!

So all that time at ATS saying "No such thing as secret space planes" now you claim to be the one that exposed it?

I stand corrected... you are not a moron... my bad... just a comedian :P

Enjoy your visit... I doubt you will last long ;)

Quote from: zorgon on July 30, 2015, 09:33:49 PM
So all that time at ATS saying "No such thing as secret space planes" now you claim to be the one that exposed it?

I stand corrected... you are not a moron... my bad... just a comedian :P

Enjoy your visit... I doubt you will last long ;)

Censor me if you wish, I really don't care, it will just prove that you have to retreat to a forum where you can censor the discussion in order to save your face while hurling insults at "morons" like me.  I said to John Lear that there were no secret space stations being visited by the shuttle as he claimed.  I would have seen them, I used to track the orbiters just as I tracked the X-37B.  You admitted yourself (accidentally) that I exposed the secret X-37B space plane on space weather.  So where are John Lear's secret space stations the shuttle used to visit on the way to and from ISS?  Yeah, right, crickets.  Now censor away you moron, turnabout is fair play. 

By the way, NASA now calls on me for help when one of their satellites goes awry.  Just this morning I tracked an ailing tiny cubesat deployed from ISS a couple weeks ago after a JPL guy called me up and asked me if I could do it for them.

Quote from: ngchunter on July 31, 2015, 02:39:09 PM
I said to John Lear that there were no secret space stations being visited by the shuttle as he claimed

You should have asked IgnoreTheFacts that question :D

QuoteYou admitted yourself (accidentally) that I exposed the secret X-37B space plane on space weather.

I merely quoted the article on space weather :P

QuoteBy the way, NASA now calls on me for help when one of their satellites goes awry.  Just this morning I tracked an ailing tiny cubesat deployed from ISS a couple weeks ago after a JPL guy called me up and asked me if I could do it for them.

So you claim that NASA with all their tech has to rely on some backyard amateur with a small telescope to find their satellites? LOL That is pretty pathetic

So why would I believe YOUR outrageous claims any more than John's or IgnoreTheFacts?   Naturally you can prove your claims right?

::)

Quote from: ngchunter on July 31, 2015, 02:39:09 PM
I really don't care, it will just prove that you have to retreat to a forum where you can censor the discussion in order to save your face

LOL you are a special case aren't you?

Well in any case since this thread is about ASTEROIDS  we can assume that such a self proclaimed 'expert' like yourself can track any potential incoming asteroid in time to warn us right?

I mean NASA missed that big one that hit Russia recently...

...but then you didn't catch that one either :P So  DO try to stay on topic

Quote from: zorgon on July 31, 2015, 06:09:48 PM
LOL you are a special case aren't you?

Well in any case since this thread is about ASTEROIDS  we can assume that such a self proclaimed 'expert' like yourself can track any potential incoming asteroid in time to warn us right?

I mean NASA missed that big one that hit Russia recently...

...but then you didn't catch that one either :P So  DO try to stay on topic

Trying to distract from the fact that you called me a moron without even realizing I was the very person who exposed the very information you claimed I was contradicting?  No one, and I mean no one claims that I or anyone else can track "ALL" potential impactors before they hit, particularly small ones like that, particularly if they come from the direction of the sun.  So you can take that red herring and shove it.

Quote from: zorgon on July 31, 2015, 05:59:35 PM
You should have asked IgnoreTheFacts that question :D

Why?  Lear was the one making the claim on the other forum.

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I merely quoted the article on space weather :P

You called me a moron when I was the one who gave that information to spaceweather in the first place.

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So you claim that NASA with all their tech has to rely on some backyard amateur with a small telescope to find their satellites? LOL That is pretty pathetic

Find?  No.  Track?  Well, a former JPL guy (he just got a job high up on the Giant Magellan Telescope project) asked me as a favor for one of his friends over there at NASA.  They wanted to know whether the solar arrays deployed and whether it's spinning out of control.  They know where it is, but they needed me to track it to see what state its in.  They can't get good communication with the satellite which is what they would usually rely on for that information.  Could they use one of their telescopes to track it?  Probably, after spending a few weeks getting through the bureaucracy bullcrap and spending way more money than is necessary writing code and procedures to optically track the satellite and pay some unionized technician overtime to come in on a weekend and do it when the equipment's not otherwise engaged.  Or they can just ask me if I'm willing and able to do it for them and maybe send me a check at the end if they feel like it.

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So why would I believe YOUR outrageous claims any more than John's or IgnoreTheFacts?   Naturally you can prove your claims right?

::)

Naturally.
http://h.dropcanvas.com/1wtdy/cube1.jpg
http://h.dropcanvas.com/1wtdy/cube3.jpg
http://h.dropcanvas.com/1wtdy/cube4.jpg
If they send me a check I'll be sure to take a picture of that for you too.  Then you can ponder some more about how I'm "just" a backyard amateur with a "small" telescope.

Quote from: ngchunter on July 31, 2015, 06:41:15 PM
Why?  Lear was the one making the claim on the other forum.

Because IgnoreTheFacts confirmed it :P  Too bad he got banned before he gave us the goods (in public)

QuoteYou called me a moron

...if the shoe fits :P ...besides  I took that back and changed it to 'comedian'

QuoteOr they can just ask me if I'm willing and able to do it for them and maybe send me a check at the end if they feel like it.Naturally.

Well we all know NASA is short of cash and can't even get past the Van Allen belts and forgot how they went to the moon... so yeah I guess they need backyard amateurs to track for them. Makes sense :P 

QuoteIf they send me a check I'll be sure to take a picture of that for you too.  Then you can ponder some more about how I'm "just" a backyard amateur with a "small" telescope.

With a big ego too :P  Well IF they do send a check, cash it quick :P  because I don't think they will be around much longer :P

Date Of Destruction September 23 2015.

Alex Jones Infowars video with ref to what is being suggested for 23rd Sept 2015...

I suspect something may happen of importance....just hope nothing of major destruction...

              ---------------------------------

Roughly three months, or 500 days from when The French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius and John Kerry made a vague announcement, it will be September 23, 2015. The occult beliefs of the illuminati stress the importance of the dates following the Autumn Equinox. The occultists believe that a veil separating the Earthly realm from the demonic realm reaches its most allowable for the transfer of demons until midnight on Halloween. The events leading up to, on and nearly following the date of September 23, 2015 are numerous and many of them are as yet unconfirmed claims. Note to mainstream media, uncomfirmed claims here, we are simply taking a look at what is being said.

An asteroid is said to be approaching Earth that will hit the coast of Venezuala and Brazil and create an extinction level event. The update and ramping up of the Cern large Hadron Collider and the possible Universe destroying opening of other dimensions within our own dimension or access to a gate that has been closed. The culmination of Jade Helm, a large scale psyop operation targeting pockets of the United States with the largest density populations of patriot data to be utilized by military intelligence and Canada's Maple Resolve Operations a large scale readiness exercise movement of military vehicles. Meanwhile, the closing of large retail chains beginning in August and resolving around early September due to the success of online retail and dwindling median income. With claims of eyewitnesses in Canada reporting Target stores being converted into underground military bases. The Day of Atonement lands squarely on September 23rd and heralds in the 70th Jubilee year which the Angel Gabriel delivered to the prophet Daniel signaling the second coming of Christ in 2016. And the ominous historical meeting scheduled between President Obama and the openly blatant cheerleader of The New World Order Pope Francis.

The level of predictive programming leading up to this foreboding date with destiny has been ongoing. Something is definitely rotten in Denmark. Those with open eyes keep a watch as the elite gradually disappear to their cities underground, economic cycles come to pass, and military movements increase on domestic soil. Again we are simply evaluating the signs here mainstream media, we wouldn't want you to be envious of our ability to analyze what you are paid to cover up.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET_cDZATCds

Quote from: zorgon on July 31, 2015, 07:21:26 PM
Because IgnoreTheFacts confirmed it :P  Too bad he got banned before he gave us the goods (in public)

Sounds like another moron.  Or a nutjob.  Anyone can make a claim.  Proof is quite another thing.

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Well we all know NASA is short of cash and can't even get past the Van Allen belts

Wrong on the second point.

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With a big ego too :P  Well IF they do send a check, cash it quick :P  because I don't think they will be around much longer :P

Don't hold your breath.

Could you possibly offer some insight or evidence ngchunter that NASA or any Humans have been able to get past the Van Allen Belt ?

Apologies if I have not as yet read all your posts or missed it in one of your videos.

"Zorgon"

QuoteWell we all know NASA is short of cash and can't even get past the Van Allen belts

ngchunter

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Wrong on the second point.

Quote from: ngchunter on August 01, 2015, 05:00:04 PM
Sounds like another moron.  Or a nutjob.  Anyone can make a claim.  Proof is quite another thing.

LOL That is so funny coming from you :P IgnoreThefacts was one of you uber skeptics at ATS for years. I find it amusing that you forgot him already. As to proof... no worries  He provided me with plenty... and no... you can't see it.  You can call people names all you want, just makes you look the fool

QuoteWrong on the second point.Don't hold your breath.

Well I got that info from NASA so you since you 'work' for them and know everything, you better call them and show them how to do it because they can't :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXG0REiVzE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXG0REiVzE

Quote from: zorgon on August 01, 2015, 08:52:59 PM
Well I got that info from NASA so you since you 'work' for them and know everything, you better call them and show them how to do it because they can't :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXG0REiVzE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXG0REiVzE

That again? Some people never learn.  ::)

Quote from: astr0144 on August 01, 2015, 06:02:36 PM
Could you possibly offer some insight or evidence ngchunter that NASA or any Humans have been able to get past the Van Allen Belt ?

Apollo 8, Apollo 10, Apollo 11, Apollo 12... etc, etc, etc.

Quote from: zorgon on August 01, 2015, 08:52:59 PM
LOL That is so funny coming from you :P IgnoreThefacts was one of you uber skeptics at ATS for years. I find it amusing that you forgot him already. As to proof... no worries  He provided me with plenty... and no... you can't see it.

Then your claim falls.  Your passive aggressive attitude will get you absolutely nowhere.

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  You can call people names all you want, just makes you look the fool

That's funny coming from you since you started this by calling me a moron.

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Well I got that info from NASA so you since you 'work' for them and know everything, you better call them and show them how to do it because they can't :P

You're so predictable. The trajectory taken by Apollo avoided the most intense parts of the Van Allen belts. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuH4rxda3Z4
Using SPENVIS, here is the dose expected for an Apollo astronaut sitting inside an Apollo spacecraft with about 7-8 g/cm^2 areal density on the trajectory taken by Apollo to the moon:
http://h.dropcanvas.com/i9iel/apollodosegcm3-1.jpg
That dose isn't dangerous at all.

With that said, you cannot send astronauts on an Apollo command module through the same region on the same trajectory as Orion EFT-1 without risking the astronauts developing mild symptoms of radiation poisoning.  When the engineer in that video says that they still have to learn how to travel safely through "this region" of space he means that quite literally as it applies to Orion EFT-1; Apollo didn't pass through the region of space traveled by Orion EFT-1.  Orion EFT-1 traveled thousands of kilometers high right over the equator, right into the intense equatorial region of the inner Van Allen belt, which is a very different trajectory than Apollo.

Here is the expected dose if you were to send Apollo astronauts in an Apollo command module on the same trajectory as Orion EFT-1's final orbit:
http://h.dropcanvas.com/i9iel/OrionEFT-1%20trajectory%20radiation%20dose%20of%20apollo%20density.jpg
Nearly 30 rads of radiation.  At that dose you are approaching the threshold at which you may start to exhibit mild symptoms of radiation poisoning according to the CDC:

"Mild symptoms may be observed with doses as low as 0.3 Gy or 30 rads."
http://www.bt.cdc.gov/radiation/arsphysicianfactsheet.asp

Still won't kill you, but it might just make you sick if you fly Orion EFT-1's trajectory with the older Apollo capsule.  The electronics on that capsule were less susceptible to radiation though.  Computers were also in charge of a lot less of the Apollo spacecraft, and were built using core memory that generally could not experience a "bit flip" due to radiation the way modern memory chips do.