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New Moon Anomaly

Started by A51Watcher, August 22, 2012, 05:43:30 AM

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deuem

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 24, 2012, 04:11:08 AM


ok now that I have had a moment to catch up on the thread and follow the various links, I'm  pretty confident spacemaverick found the answer(s) for us.


From his link, first off the schematic of the camera -









... and then some examples of the 'blemishes' (Electrostatic discharge)  that occured -









I would have to say case closed.



Great work spacemaverick!!  8)

PRC rocks.

A51 and others, I have seen this diagram of the camera many times now and have studied it also. Please note: there is a second camera, A Stelar camera that is shooting 35mm film 90 degrees to one side. My question is, I have never once found any of these photos and a cross link between them and the moon surface photos. They must use that film for pin pointing their position in space. Have you ever seen even one of them? even better, a chart for the moon to star photos. And they say they could not see stars yet they have a star camera right there. Hum?
Deuem

Pimander

Quote from: spacemaverick on August 23, 2012, 07:49:33 PM
These are apollo pictures but ASU says that film blemishes do happen.  Could be static electricity that made an impression on the film.  Not throwing water on anyones suggestions but offering one of my own.
This is pretty much the type of thing meant when I suggested a processing "glitch".

Pimander

Quote from: spacemaverick on August 24, 2012, 04:22:36 AM
Thanks A51!!  I still want to believe that there are things up there that would tell us undeniably that there are beings there.  The evidence is there, I just need to believe it.  Guess that will take time.
To be fair, even if that had been a "plasma ejection" on the Moon, would that have proven to you that there are beings up there?   ???

Proof of the presence of intelligently controlled craft with technology way beyond that possessed by Earth Humans would surely be stronger evidence.  Well, that is my ten cents worth anyway.    ;)

spacemaverick

Quote from: Pimander on August 24, 2012, 05:14:12 PM
To be fair, even if that had been a "plasma ejection" on the Moon, would that have proven to you that there are beings up there?   ???

Proof of the presence of intelligently controlled craft with technology way beyond that possessed by Earth Humans would surely be stronger evidence.  Well, that is my ten cents worth anyway.    ;)

Like I said, I want to believe but a lot of my life teachings have been otherwise.  I have to overcome these for me to really believe.  It is not my time to realize that there may be other races, even on the moon.  It seems the evidence is there, I, (in my own mind) need more.

Yes, you did mention there was a process glitch.  That honestly helped me key in on process glitches of a different type on the ASU site and offer up what I did.  Your process glitch was correct.  Your comment spurred my mind into remembering coming across this sometime before.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

spacemaverick

Quote from: Pimander on August 22, 2012, 04:11:50 PM
I don't thin that a vacuumed neon tube is really a perfect vacuum though (if there is such a thing ;) ).

I'm not hot on image analysis so I'm still not convinced it isn't a processing glitch anyway.  I guess it is possible that plasma could be ejected into the supposedly very thin Lunar atmosphere but the sausage shaped part looks suspiciously like a processing glitch.

However, I am no image expert, just a sponge trying to absorb info quickly.

To clarify:  this is the entry that led me to look for the problem on the ASU site.  Thanks Pimander.
From the past into the future any way I can...Educating...informing....guiding.

ArMaP

Quote from: A51Watcher on August 24, 2012, 04:11:08 AM
From his link, first off the schematic of the camera -

That's a different camera, the one that took these photos was this one.



We can see that the film changed direction twice, thanks to some rollers that made a 45º angle to the direction of the film, the same angle of the "anomaly". :)

Pimander

Quote from: ArMaP on August 24, 2012, 11:44:07 PM
We can see that the film changed direction twice, thanks to some rollers that made a 45º angle to the direction of the film, the same angle of the "anomaly". :)
You have your answer there folks. :)

deuem

Although we seemed to have put this to bed, what about the stelar camera on the first camera, Anyone ever find photos from that one? Deuem

1Worldwatcher

I have to agree with Deuem on this one. "Is there a First camera vantage point picture too compare notes?" Too many things such as this go left untouched as being proven or debunked, and this is where the trouble lies for hard core reseaching and proof beyound a shadow of a doubt.
I do understand that there are some artifacts with in malfunctioned photo's , but with the Moon theories being there for research and investigation, the Conspiracy theories of there being a civilization on the Lunar surface, it deserves the utmost investigatory prowess too be validated as what is being explained.
So much has been debunked by such methods, and this may be the damaging factor in the truth of the matter at hand. IMPO ;)

1Worldwatcher
"To know men is too have knowledge, to know self is to have insight."

ArMaP

Quote from: deuem on August 26, 2012, 08:08:34 AM
Although we seemed to have put this to bed, what about the stelar camera on the first camera, Anyone ever find photos from that one? Deuem
I have never seen a photo from that camera (as far as I know), but that's not surprising, as the camera was used to "record star field at a fixed point in space relative to mapping camera axis so that orientation of the latter can be accurately determined for each mapping camera frame".

But they have a folder for it's images on the Apollo Image Archive, so I guess we have to wait. :)