Snowden reveals UFO secrets?

[starwarp2000]

As for the "Bovine Excrement", well lets say that "Goulashes aren't Deep enough!!" LOL Have to get some chest-wader's that are above the chest with some of the hooey out there for sure.

Bovine Excrement is fine! Until it hit's the Rotary Oscillator! 

[Somamech]

My Wife say's to me:

"Why you spend so much time on this stuff when everyone knows it's real"

Other People Say:

"You don't spend enough time on this to make a coherent argument"

Finding Disclosure is a shared effort amongst a group of people. Much like the effort's of people who attend a Qigong class where they spent a lot of time and effort searching for a teacher that demonstrates that they are worth the time.

It's the little story's one hears that mostly make up some for of disclosure, which then drive one mad

[zorgon]

It would take a lot to reach everyone with 100% credable proof where even the nay sayers would agree.  What is that proof? Would a mass landings work, no, they would just eat them here. Stick a chopstick up the rear and toss it in the oil, Fine gray on a stick.

PROOF:

Do 100% of people believe Apollo landed on the moon?



Do 100% of people believe the earth is round?

http://theflatearthsociety.org/cms/



And we eat them here too...

[zorgon]

My Wife say's to me:

"Why you spend so much time on this stuff when everyone knows it's real"

THIS is how 90% of the people are



Most will believe something and then just accept their version of truth and forget about it. Nothing you can do to shake it

Other People Say:

"You don't spend enough time on this to make a coherent argument"

Those are skeptics Does their opinion really change facts?

Finding Disclosure is a shared effort amongst a group of people. Much like the effort's of people who attend a Qigong class where they spent a lot of time and effort searching for a teacher that demonstrates that they are worth the time.

Disclosure, like the search for the meaning of life will ALWAYS be a personal issue. Once you have the truth, does it really matter what the other guy thinks?

In the Medieval world when someone aspires to being a Knight they are all gung ho to let everyone know. Once they achieve that goal they realize that they no longer have the need to brag because it is now a reality

[Somamech]

SO true!

If my wife was a FaceSpocker of question then yes I would agree!

Oddly though, my wife and her family are Old Hat Face Chatter's.  Basically that mean's it's tradition that ghost's can walk and talk after life exists where the deceased can still interact with the living flesh! 

Apparently after Tomb Sweeping Day Grandpa approved of me!  I can see why, I worked hard with my living flesh dad, (on my wife's side with earnest) and we cleared the frig out of his temple !

Disclosure is like odd mystery's too

Only 'one experience's it at the time', Yet with serious people who do see it for what it is we can piece it together to some extent !

[Elvis Hendrix]

SO true!

If my wife was a FaceSpocker of question then yes I would agree!

Oddly though, my wife and her family are Old Hat Face Chatter's.  Basically that mean's it's tradition that ghost's can walk and talk after life exists where the deceased can still interact with the living flesh! 

Apparently after Tomb Sweeping Day Grandpa approved of me!  I can see why, I worked hard with my living flesh dad, (on my wife's side with earnest) and we cleared the frig out of his temple !

Disclosure is like odd mystery's too

Equals le gold.

[The Seeker]

let's put it on the table in simple terms; each one of us is isolated within the confines of the ol' meat suit limited by the five normally accepted senses; I cannot experience what you do except in a arch typical fashion; therefore it is difficult to convey what I experienced to anyone except in a limited manner...

disclosure is indeed a personal matter; what convinces you or I might be utter poop to another...

each one will have their own moment of enlightenment, that instant when the point of no return occurs and then is a thing of the past; some will argue about it, some steadfastly deny it, even turn to violence over it...

but I guarantee you, friends, when you do have that moment that convinces you utterly and totally, then you will look at the deny-ers and shrug, for you will have your proof...


seeker

[spacemaverick]

With everything being said; each person's perception of what is transpiring in our skies is different because of various belief systems, outside influences and our inside influences and we are now back to each person's perception and PERSONAL DISCLOSURE.  Where have I heard this one before?  You could have a whole fleet of UFO's land and someone would say, hey those are demons or hey, this is all an illusion.  People are going to believe what they want to believe...IMHO.

[deuem]

If 1 person sees a UFO, 99 say your crazy
If 1 person says they were abducted, 99 say your on drugs, see a doctor
If 1 person says he saw a fleet, 99 say, you saw a shower of rocks
If 1 person sees life on the moon, 99 say your crazy
If 99 people say this, 1 person says your all crazy

For myself it would be nice if we could have just one real tangable piece of proof.
then,
If 1 person has tangable proof, 99 say your crazy and made it up

If disclosure is done on a 1 by 1 basis, then when is it my turn?

[spacemaverick]

I'm still waiting for my turn deuem.  I do believe they exist even if I don't have any proof.  That goes against my belief system but I still remain open minded.

[zorgon]

I have seen two UFO's  both far away

I have observed Critters with 3rd generation night vision goggles thanks to John> Anyone can spot critters

I have not yet met an alien

But too many people I now know in high places have met them face to face albeit briefly

These people are not on the circuit...

Perhaps we really don't want to meet one face to face, at least not if what I hear is anything to go by


As for Snowden revealling UFO stuff?  Yesterday on Farcebook I saw then caliming Snowden now is saying Chemtrails are real


But people forget one main point  Snowden was not privy to state secrets  he was involved in the MONITORING of WE THE PEOPLE  so any UFO or Chemtrail stuff he might have heard was from US

[Somamech]

Yeah and why is it that Snowden All, yet everyone that has braved the "Chilly Reception" of the General Public have Clearly Stated that They Don't Know when they receive question's that are out of their knowledge base.

PSYOPS perhaps ? 

[zorgon]

If 1 person sees a UFO, 99 say your crazy

But I can find you another 99 that will believe you... probably right here on Pegsus

If 1 person says they were abducted, 99 say your on drugs, see a doctor

If 1 perosn says he saw you kill someone... 12 people will say your guilty
TRUTH and the eye of the witness is RELATIVE

If 1 person says he saw a fleet, 99 say, you saw a shower of rocks

Back at ATS there were many who would look at the Moon anomalies and say "All I see is blurry rocks!"  The skeptic will always scream 'Pareidolia"  Well to a point there is some truth to that BUT on the other hand some people have a better eye to percieve things. Artists for one. People with such an eye get hired by the military to look over surveilance photos to spot anomalies on the ground. I posted one sample  an old RAF photo of a German base. Even I had trouble seeing what they saw as rockets on trialers but they planned bombing missions based on that photo

The opposite of Pareidolia is "Prosopagnosia" or face blindness. That means people that CANNOT recognize things in photos. But I suspect that for certain skeptics its more deliberate

Other factors include monitor settings, glasses, ability to interpret what you see and even color blindness. I made the mistake of using a purple to highlight an anomaly once... then found out people who have trouble with grauscale cannot see the purple shading either

So what I and others can see clearly, others simply cannot.. and they get frusrated and mad and because they cannot see it, assume you must be crazy.

At ATS one skeptic (and Mod) TheBorg... one day saw the SCALE I was talking about in the Copernicus images.  Once he grasped the SCALE he was able to see it. He saw ONE artifact clear as day... and that was enough. After that he found others on his own...

ArMaP has TWO images that he is stuck on... and all it really takes is ONE.  If just ONE anomaly is true... then you are stuck

If 1 person sees life on the moon, 99 say your crazy

on the other hand 99 people will say they see faces in every moon rock and they ARE crazy

If 99 people say this, 1 person says your all crazy

Who defines and sets the satndard for insanity?

For myself it would be nice if we could have just one real tangable piece of proof.

Agreed  I have more than enough for me to know... BUT I would like to hold just one verified sample of a saucer from all these crash sites that supposedly happened.