Donald Trump finally admits that Obama was born in USA

[Pimander]

Having looked through the thread, having a "political forum" within a forum would probably foster more arguments rather than discussion.

In general I agree.  AboveTopSecret.com is about 80% American politics threads.  There are so few threads on the topics I used to be interested in its a bit boring there.  Nobody wants that here.  We already had something like that happen here with religious threads.

The reason I posted about the Trump admitting Obama was born in the USA is because the Birth Certificate controversy was a big topic in conspiracy theory circles.

People get passionate about their beliefs and all too often it becomes one sided and argumentative.

This thread looks one sided because I have a fair point.  It is difficult to argue against my main point which is why almost everybody has responded by posting about something else or somebody other than Trump.

It is noted that there is no footage of Hilary questioning Obama's birth,  And not one person has agreed with me that Obama should apologise to the American people and the President.  Absolutely fascinating. 

One day a member will post a fair point and everybody will say something like, "Yes mate, that is obviously true.  If you accuse someone of being a complete liar based on your place of birth or race then it is right to apologise."  I won't hold my breath.

[spacemaverick]

A lot of what I post on Facebook has videos I have found where candidates and or any other person of public interest have said things right out of their own mouths and I just post it and tell people, "here, look at what they said.  Most of the time it shuts down an argument they had.  My favorite is a video called Star Spangled Shariah or Muslim Brotherhood Revolution?  Out of their own mouths they are helping the Black Lives Matter movement and have many movements of their own her in the states.  I never have any arguments when I present the videos.  I use Facebook as a platform to bring out things happening in America.  I don't get into discussions there...just present videos and let people look if they're are interested.

[starwarp2000]

Isn't it interesting:
http://www.govtslaves.info/obamas-lawyers-officially-admit-birth-certificate-fake/

Lawyers for the Obama Administration announced that Barack Obama's long form birth certificate was a forgery. Under penalty of perjury, the lawyers said they were forced to say that the birth certificate was valid.

http://www.teapartytribune.com/2012/04/13/obama-lawyer-admits-forgery-but-disregards-image-as-indication-of-obamas-ineligibility-damage-control/

A lawyer representing the Obama administration say the birth certificate was knowingly purveyed to fool the American public into believing he was legitimately able to be President.

However, they purport that Obama knows he is not a natural born citizen.

In New Jersey, a case about Obama's eligibility has influenced activist to question the President's legal right to be Commander and Chief.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2012/04/15/obama-lawyer-admits-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery/

Nick Purpura of Wall Township, NJ, and Ted Moran of Toms River, NJ, filed their objection with the New Jersey Board of Elections. Purpura and Moran objected to Obama appearing on the June 5 Democratic Primary ballot on two grounds:

• No one knows exactly who Barack H. Obama is, because he has had three different names in life. Furthermore, he has never furnished a true copy of his birth certificate to the Secretary of State. So no one can be sure that Obama was born in the United States.
• Obama's father was a British colonial subject. He not only was not a naturalized citizen on the alleged date of Obama's birth, but indeed never sought naturalization. Therefore Obama could never be a natural-born citizen no matter where he was born.

Attorney for the plaintiff, Mario Apuzzo asserts that the birth certificate is the proof of Obama's citizenship that allows him to be on the ballot in New Jersey.

On April 10, 2012, these lawyers admitted the forgery.

Obama is asserting that the document is a fake and should not be allowed into evidence. And the judge in this case agrees.

So, Obama and his lawyers won the case by asserting that the birth certificate was a fake and should not be submitted into evidence!

This invalidates all arguments about the validity of his birth certificate. Trump gave up trying to bring this into the light because the US Justice Dept, FBI, all the Letter Agency are CORRUPT! Why flog a dead horse?

Without the birth certificate, Obama cannot prove he is a natural born citizen. Where before this development, the Obama administration adamantly asserted that the birth certificate was legitimate; they knowing lied and therefore should be arrested and charged with their illegal actions against the American people.

The fact that there is a President who has served 8 years in office who has had 3 names, a sealed education record, a sealed legal practice record, 25 mysterious deaths amongst his aquaintances, the death of the official in Hawai who endorsed his fake Birth Certificate, and then who comes out and wins a court case (FOIA) by stating that the Birth Certificate is a fake, well what do you say to that?

For sure the left, and the Clinton News Networks have attacked Trump for his so called "Birther" views, (All the while Obama says his birth certificate is a fake), which makes Trump the supreme strategist against this "Double Speak"!
He knows that whatever evidence there is has been long expunged, just like Hillary's emails, so let's concede that point and get on with the real election points.

It all revolves around Obama was a "Natural Born Citizen"! THe definition of that was settled in a Supreme Court case (United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)), states that BOTH parents have to be born in the USA for a candidate to be elligible for the Presidency.
Read it yourself:

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/169/649/case.html

Not only that, the clause "Natural Born Citizen" was put in their to preclude Foreign Agents who would alter the very fabric of American society.
Well, gee, what has happened?

[Phedre]

I'm puzzled as to why you discuss war and complain about Obama in the same breath?

Gulf War:  Bush
Iraq War: Bush
Afghan War: Bush
War on Drugs: Bush

Obama should/could have done more to end the conflicts for sure but it does not look like one President can be held responsible for the war situation.

Look up if ,you care too? American Policies and Actions for the last 8 years Re:

Afghanistan
Iraq
Libya
Pakistan
Somalia
Syria
Egypt
Ukraine

If you will, find out more about the TPPT, It is not just a "harmless" little trade agreement, Obama has quietly been all over the world selling this plan.  I also acknowledge all the harm other US Presidents have done,this not a competition.

I understand you are a Researcher and I would bet a very good one. Argument is not the way, it is only what we discover for ourselves do we remain teachable.

As to your question about Trump, needing to apologize to Obama..........No