Interesting points here, but we as a collective will win.

[Eighthman]

Absurd? No.

We've already had nearly enough states vote in a constitutional convention. Liberals in California eagerly suggested secession in response to Trump's victory. 

No one seems to notice active nullification of Federal law - marijuana legalization, hemp growth legalization, sanctuary cities - with more sought by liberals.  And then we have Texas.....  I grew up in the '60's in which nullification/secession was unthinkable. It's not unthinkable anymore.

Let them try to revive the war on drugs.  Let them try to make abortion illegal.  In seven years, there won't be any tax money left for anything beyond entitlements and interest on the debt (CBO).   The US needs to get real and quick. Time is running out.

[biggles]

There is more of you all than them.  And, if this happened and I was a mother with a child in the mil I would be bloody having a real hard talk to them like now.

[Eighthman]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/system-itself-beyond-repair

This guy gets it.  Trump was the last hope and he got 'turned'.  The whole system is now beyond repair and must break apart.

[biggles]

I bet his thinking his sorry he won now.

[Amaterasu]

Grump was never "turned."  He played His script to the hilt - and is still playing it.  He was SElected by the investors of the corporation, THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, as the CEO (President) of the corporation, beholden ONLY to make a profit for its investors (the psychopaths in control).  There was predictive programming for Grump being selected for the role as CEO - Lisa Simpson becoming president after Grump, as one.  And nothing He is doing is a surprise to Me.  I know of Albert Pike and His three world wars, two of which have happened, accomplishing the goals He set out for them, and the third is waiting in the wings.

There was never hope in Grump but what was manufactured for Us, with Him delivering His script. 

[ArMaP]

Grump was never "turned."

Why don't you use his real name?

[biggles]

It's just like people used to call O'Bama O'Bummer and stuff like that hon, just what we are still allowed currently; things could change quick.

[ArMaP]

It's just like people used to call O'Bama O'Bummer and stuff like that hon, just what we are still allowed currently; things could change quick.

I understand that people do it because they can, but I suppose there's always a more concrete reason for using a specific name.

[biggles]

Probably cuz their pissed off honey.

[ArMaP]

Probably cuz their pissed off honey.

That's one thing I don't understand, why do people make up a different name instead of using the real name with suggestive adjective?

I know, I know, it's probably my obsession with reality interfering with my weak social skills.

[biggles]

  that's okay, that's just you being you, just like me being a pain in the backside at times not giving anyone synopses. 

It's because most of the time I'm stuffed. xo

[Amaterasu]

Why don't you use his real name?

Because of My keen disdain for the man.

[ArMaP]

Because of My keen disdain for the man.

To me, that way of doing things only makes you look bad, as it sounds like a childish way of protesting.

[biggles]

To me, that way of doing things only makes you look bad, as it sounds like a childish way of protesting.

I cant count the number of people who are arrogant, rude, and play games with names ArMap.

But we have free will honey, whether it is childish or not, we can still do it; even if people don't agree.  I do it. 

[space otter]

Quote from: ArMaP on April 12, 2017, 04:16:10 PM
Why don't you use his real name?


Because of My keen disdain for the man.

Quote from: Amaterasu on April 12, 2017, 08:06:57 PM
Because of My keen disdain for the man.
To me, that way of doing things only makes you look bad, as it sounds like a childish way of protesting.

OR...Maybe

using the name of someone or something gives power to it


it's an old line of thought....but imo effective