Dimensional Trolls effecting our current timeline?

[zorgon]

Are you saying that James Earl Jones says that he didn't say "No, I'm your father!"?

[zorgon]

If you dig out old VHS copies it will say "LUKE..."



I need a VHS player  I want to check our old vhs Disney movies for Tinkerbell

[ArMaP]

Thanks for that.

It's interesting that the script they show says only "I am your father", nothing more, so who are we going to believe now?.

Anyone with the right software can make that.

[Shasta56]

I've had experiences where I see another reality happening over top of the one I'm experiencing.  Like the good old days of overhead projectors when the teacher would start with one transparency, then layer others on top of it, to demonstrate something.

Shasta

[The Seeker]

Well there is a Youtube video where Jones shows the script and it says "Luke... "I am your father" Apparently George Lucas has said several times he recalls it as "Luke... "I am your father"

That means both of these fellows came with us   and since they are the creator and the voice, I will go with them on this

My thoughts on the matter also 

That would be nice  The insanity in this one is scary

Agreed  but my spidey sense tells me that since we are now here that our former saga has ended and this new one is our current challenge

IF that is true... then those of us 'saved' to continue a mission likely swapped with a stupider version of us  that got sent to die in the ELE

Problem with that is  WHO is the Controller?

Both of us have been told that this is the last journey here; my thoughts are that we must see this cycle to the end, finish what was started, in order to move on...

I ponder who is the puppetmaster, and what purpose will be shown to us once the veil is crossed  I believe Yoda would say "Dark is this place, and few are they that believe"

[Irene]

[Eighthman]

So if Cannon is right, we're all freakin' doomed, right?  "Game over man"?  Because 2012 came and went and we're still here in this increasingly insane world - and you guys are talking about a transition you experienced.....

and here we are.......on the evil/bad Earth??

[The Seeker]

So if Cannon is right, we're all freakin' doomed, right?  "Game over man"?  Because 2012 came and went and we're still here in this increasingly insane world - and you guys are talking about a transition you experienced.....

and here we are.......on the evil/bad Earth??

Calm down, chicken little; the sky isn't falling...yet  unless you are a sentient zombie, you are obviously still alive, correct? Now, please establish your justification for all of us to be doomed? Have you not paid any attention to the discussions here about the timelines glitch or the mandela challenge?

If you have noticed nothing being amiss, nothing having changed from what you remember it always being, then you should be where you have always been;

society does appear to be very skewed, more chaotic, from my perspective, with a much larger degree of lunacy from the left and society in general, not to mention that the normally fundamentally conservatives appear to be twisted and unstable compared to what I am used to

so tell us, what has changed for you?

[Eighthman]

Which Earth does this one appear to be?   If you think this is the Enlightened One, your own observations seem to contradict that.  OTOH,  if we all noticed a change, then are we in a different world - but which one?

If you pick "Good Earth", then you must theorize that somehow, All This Craziness is leading to a good outcome. Sort of a 'darkest before the dawn' thing.  Somehow the nastiness surrounding Trump is good,  and the opiate plague and the other horrors are leading us towards a Blessed State.

[The Seeker]

Which Earth does this one appear to be?

From my perspective, this is timeline B, and I am from A

If you think this is the Enlightened One, your own observations seem to contradict that.

You make great leaps in your assumptions;  where have I stated anything about this place being enlightened?

OTOH,  if we all noticed a change, then are we in a different world - but which one?

That is why I asked if you,yourself, have noticed any changes; can't recall any of us following this issue being able to deduce that everyone jumped; on the contrary, there are numerous people that argue that nothing has changed for them, that it is either a figment of our imagination, we are senile, or just plain full of feces

If you pick "Good Earth", then you must theorize that somehow, All This Craziness is leading to a good outcome. Sort of a 'darkest before the dawn' thing.  Somehow the nastiness surrounding Trump is good,  and the opiate plague and the other horrors are leading us towards a Blessed State.

Again, how did you manage to draw that conclusion from anything that has been written in these posts? Seriously? 

The supposition is that I, Zorgon, and others known to us (not the entire population) are from timeline A; this is timeline B; and in case you missed it, we et al would cheerfully choose to return to A

[Irene]

Personally, this divergent reality has been awful. I keep hoping I will wake up from this GD nightmare.

[Eighthman]

Whether a "timeline" or an alternative Earth, it looks to end up the same way.  A bad place by your own admission.
If you feel that this is your 'last mission' or 'final go 'round', then you got dumped into something nasty for some reason.

As we are guessing as to What The Heck Is Going On, I continue to flesh out my hypothesis:  we are being directed by some alien intelligence that has great respect for evolution.  They are quietly intervening so as to achieve a final state of better governance of the globe and complete Disclosure.

Because this takes an Alien or cosmic view of the earth, it will be upsetting to social or national interests.

[Irene]

Whether a "timeline" or an alternative Earth, it looks to end up the same way.  A bad place by your own admission.
If you feel that this is your 'last mission' or 'final go 'round', then you got dumped into something nasty for some reason.

As we are guessing as to What The Heck Is Going On, I continue to flesh out my hypothesis:  we are being directed by some alien intelligence that has great respect for evolution.  They are quietly intervening so as to achieve a final state of better governance of the globe and complete Disclosure.

Because this takes an Alien or cosmic view of the earth, it will be upsetting to social or national interests.

Oh dear, I vehemently disagree. A benevolent "father" would not allow his children to suffer. The entity that controls our reality is a major-league, sadistic pr*ck who feeds off our pain and suffering and delights in watching us impotently fight "the machine".

It is somewhat silent as it goes about its nasty work, but what it's up to is revealed in literature, music, and media. Some things pop up in art, too, but I don't know much about that area except that art, and everything else, has grown more and more discordant with the purpose being to produce all manner of chaos within and without our persons.

It is pure evil.

[Eighthman]

http://www.cleveland.com/living/index.ssf/2009/02/parable_of_a_chinese_farmer_ho.html

Is there enough evidence that UFO's/Aliens/Whatever have intervened in regard to nuclear weapons? And probably our evolution, too?  If so, then they "care" somewhat.....  Hey, at the end of the day, we're still here, alive !

The human race is like a group of children supplied with gasoline, matches and loaded guns.  Disaster awaits unless a concerned parent intervenes.  However, it is usually considered a tragedy if a child never grows into full adulthood and so is always dependent. Hence, a balance.

Evolution is not kind or compassionate and neither is Nature.  I painfully left my Creationist past behind once I fully accepted this.  I try to imagine, "what would Aliens do or think about us?"  - and that generates my speculative conclusions. 

[The Seeker]

Whether a "timeline" or an alternative Earth, it looks to end up the same way.  A bad place by your own admission.
If you feel that this is your 'last mission' or 'final go 'round', then you got dumped into something nasty for some reason.

It all depends on your perspective and point of view  I am not pessimistic by nature; you can't be in the line of work I have pursued for most of my time here  In my eyes, there are no problems, only different solutions; I haven't drawn a paycheck since last September, yet all my bills are paid, nothing is late or behind, and I haven't lost or dropped off anything; there is a purpose and reason behind every thing, and some schools of esoteric thought believe we are here to experience all things, hence the reincarnation cycles...

As we are guessing as to What The Heck Is Going On, I continue to flesh out my hypothesis:  we are being directed by some alien intelligence that has great respect for evolution.  They are quietly intervening so as to achieve a final state of better governance of the globe and complete Disclosure.

Or we are a lab experiment for them  One school of thought says we are property; another says groups like the Greys are insidiously corrupting and taking over from behind closed doors; another that we are left to find our way up the ladder to the next level before we can join the outsiders;

it is possible that malevolent entities from other dimensions are crossing into our reality to terrorize groups and individuals (like Irene) to feed off their negative emotions

Because this takes an Alien or cosmic view of the earth, it will be upsetting to social or national interests.

Until humans can learn to live peacefully, on their own, accepting that everyone has the right to be themselves without having 20 others trying to tell them what to do, the chaos and turmoil will not end...

Ancient accounts tell of 4 previous civilizations here being destroyed by cataclysm, which leads to the supposition that these events are cyclic in nature and recur on a regular basis; it is up to us whether we succeed in surviving the next one as a species, whether by colonizing places like the moon and Mars, or beyond...

And what if the tale of the inhabitants of Mars having to flee to Earth millions of years ago to escape the destruction of their home prove out to be true?