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Started by zorgon, March 28, 2018, 09:30:48 PM

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A51Watcher

Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 06:20:15 AM
Hmmm  well perhaps changing color values of shades of gray may reveal some more details but are they gravity fields or just levels of light? 

Not likely since there are large fields of black between the red gravity clouds and the rest of the craft. These clouds often form the shape of providing a constant hole for the craft to fall into. In fact these clouds often form the shapes described by Bob on his web page in graphics format.

No other lights ever processed form surrounding red gravity clouds.


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I don't really doubt you and Bob caught some craft though I am not sure about that process

The way I understand it is that it just changes color values for various shades  like this image of BLUE  Can you read what that says?

 

Well the test is in almost the same blue, but in this case 10 values off. The human eye cannot see such details (though many claim to :P )

So change the one value of blue to say green and the message appears



Well they would... as the same process is used.


No - Because we have found that no other lights of any kind process like the lights from gravity propulsion craft, period.

These lights produce an unmistakable signature in the hidden pixels in the image.

You understand the basics of the hidden pixel process well and even performed the process yourself.

So the results are not in question.


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Pretty sure he will say NO :P As I am sure that YOU didn't speak to him either to get access to lay hands on one

You are correct Sir!

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I have seen those speeds and maneuvers on several occasions  the first time was as a teen sitting on a beach in Toronto and this thing flew along the horizon in a wave pattern at high speed then suddenly shot up at 45 degrees and was gone in seconds (That is what started my interest) and just a few days ago looking south east from my house where two bright objects twirling about that just blinked out and were gone

As to night vision  Those are expensive and John's generation 3 one was stolen.

As I can barely cover current bills, that night scope will have to wait

Can I borrow yours?  :D

When I manage to pick one up, sure!  8)

A51Watcher

Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 06:27:24 AM
I will however continue to post items of interest and follow the current story

Sadly there has been little new stuff of value in the UFO department and mostly we are seing old stuff rehashed and redefined by the new kids on the block. most of who have no clue and are adding all sorts of 'extras' to the old story

Tom Delonge? Can't even answer simple questions about mars... but suddenly he is a UFO expert and all the groupies are gaga over him because he is a star.

I certainly HOPE omething real comes of all this mess...  but I am not holding my breath

The moment I sae that HAL PUTHOFF was on that team?  Well there goes that. Hal has had his finger in EVERY topic I have researched in UFO' Free Energy, Remote Viewing, Psychic Spies and even Stargates

As far as I can see... Hal Puthoff IS the Smoking Man

Grant Cameron has been flip flopping on this whole issue for quite some time. One day Tom is surrounded by the Aviary being played like a fiddle. The next day it's Tom and his boys are exciting stuff because it's all government verified.

For me so far it's all been nothingburgers.



A51Watcher

Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 06:32:03 AM
A51Watcher

If you want any of your material posted on the living moon website just put it together or point me to the thrads you want copied

I know you have your own site for your team, but we still get over 4 million vies a month.

I haven't done so yet as most of your stuff is in the private room

Choice is yours :D  I will even add the links to your site  As I have no pony in this race anyway, at least you will get more exposure

The advantage to the website is there is no way to comment :P  So it's "Just the Facts Ma'am"


Very generous thanks! I will let you know.  8)



A51Watcher

Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 05:49:44 AM

BTW have the EVER actually shot anyone for climbing those fences?  :D



Dunno. Anyone ever had the sack to try?  :P



zorgon

Quote from: A51Watcher on April 09, 2018, 07:37:04 AM
For me so far it's all been nothingburgers.

Shakespeare (Sir Francis Bacon) said it best  "Much Ado About Nothing" And that is the problem...

Cameron really got burned with the Hillary/Podesta thing... pity that

John Lear lost his mine thanks to Harry Reid and he was behind that whole Bundy Ranch caper...

and Hal Puthoff has been my Nemesis since I started this LOL

Col John Alexander is on Facebook, lives in Las Vegas now... but he is such an active Trump hater you can't even talk to him

PS Generation 3 night vision lets you see HUNDREDS of the plasma critters, even under city lighting conditions. Out at John's mine, 4000 feet high and no lights, they were swarming

zorgon


zorgon

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Meanwhile at Area 51 1/2 ...

Air Force identifies Thunderbirds pilot killed in F-16 crash




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U.S. Air Force Air Demonstration Squadron Slot Pilot Thunderbird 4, Maj. Stephen Del Bagno was killed at about 10:30 a.m. during routine training on April 4.
The Air Force on Thursday identified the Thunderbirds pilot killed in the F-16 crash at the Nevada Test and Training range as Maj. Stephen Del Bagno.

Del Bagno was killed at about 10:30 a.m. Wednesday during what the Air Force called a routine aerial demonstration training flight.

"We are mourning the loss of Maj. Del Bagno," Brig. Gen. Jeannie Leavitt, commander of the 57th Wing at Nellis Air Force Base in Nevada, said in a release. "He was an integral part of the team, and our hearts are heavy with his loss. We ask everyone to provide his family and friends the space to heal during this difficult time."

Del Bagno, of Valencia, California, was an experienced pilot in his first season with the Thunderbirds, according to his biography on the squadron's official website. He was the squadron's slot pilot and flew its No. 4 jet.

Del Bagno graduated from Utah Valley State University in 2005 and got his commission when he graduated from Officer Training School at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama in 2007.

He served as an F-35A evaluator pilot and chief of standardization and evaluation with the 58th Fighter Squadron at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida before joining the Thunderbirds. He also was a civilian flight instructor, corporate pilot, skywriter and a banner tow pilot before joining the Air Force.

The Thunderbirds website said Del Bagno had more than 3,500 total flight hours in 30 different aircraft, including 1,400 hours as an Air Force pilot.

Del Bagno, whose call sign was Cajun, was the first F-35 pilot to serve on the Thunderbirds, Nellis said in a June 2017 release announcing the newly-added members of the 2018 team. As the Thunderbirds' slot pilot, Del Bagno flew in close formation, just behind the team's No. 1 aircraft and between the lead aircraft's two wingmen to create its signature diamond formation.

He was photographed shaking hands with Vice President Mike Pence when Pence visited the Thunderbirds hangar at Nellis Jan. 11.

Del Bagno's excitement at becoming a full-fledged member of the team was evident in a Jan. 30 video documenting the moment he and other newly-minted Thunderbirds received their iconic red flight helmets.

"Today was a fantastic day," Del Bagno said in the video. "It's an important milestone for the Thunderbirds, putting on the red helmet. Once you don that red helmet, it means you no longer have your instructor in the back seat. So it's a bit surreal. The safety net's gone, you're on your own. It was just fantastic."

The service's top leaders released statements expressing their condolences prior to the announcement.

"I am deeply saddened to hear of the loss of one of our Thunderbird pilots today," Air Force Secretary Heather Wilson tweeted Wednesday evening. "My thoughts and prayers are with all those affected as they grieve and remember their family member, Wingman, and friend."

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/04/05/air-force-identifies-thunderbirds-pilot-killed-in-f-16-crash/


Pimander

Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 06:27:24 AM
Tom Delonge? Can't even answer simple questions about mars... but suddenly he is a UFO expert and all the groupies are gaga over him because he is a star.
Delonge isn't a scientist.  Others on the program are.  Delonge's personal views are not reports from any research he is linked to. :)

QuoteThe moment I sae that HAL PUTHOFF was on that team?  Well there goes that. Hal has had his finger in EVERY topic I have researched in UFO' Free Energy, Remote Viewing, Psychic Spies and even Stargates

As far as I can see... Hal Puthoff IS the Smoking Man
Non-lethal weapons (EM stuff) is a link.

That would also bring in Rauscher and John Alexander....  Jacques Vallee discussed this years ago but then went quiet on it.

QuoteAccording to author Jim Schnabel (and confirmed by Dr. Puthoff), he served at the NSA in the early 1960's during his tour with the Navy, not the Army as McRae reported above, and later stayed on as a civilian.

Joined SRI in 1971 as a specialist in laser physics. Worked for the previous eight years in the Microwave Laboratory at Stanford University. Served as an officer in the Navy from 1960-63 at Ft. Meade.

Head of the SRI remote viewing program, 1972-85. After he left, Puthoff was replaced with Ed May. Former Naval Intelligence Officer.
http://www.skinwalkerranch.org/rank.html

Microwave weapons are probably involved in certain "encounters".  Think engines deactivated, skin burns and loss of consciousness, time distortion.  Could remote viewing have been partly a test of these technologies and not just a psychic spying program?  Tum, de dum.... :D


Quote from: A51Watcher on April 09, 2018, 07:37:04 AM
Tne day Tom is surrounded by the Aviary being played like a fiddle. The next day it's Tom and his boys are exciting stuff because it's all government verified.

For me so far it's all been nothingburgers.
:-X


And why is Springer closing threads that reveal that Bigalow owns the Ranch?  Doh!

Irene

Quote from: Pimander on April 09, 2018, 01:39:37 PM
Delonge isn't a scientist.  Others on the program are.  Delonge's personal views are not reports from any research he is linked to. :)
Non-lethal weapons (EM stuff) is a link.

That would also bring in Rauscher and John Alexander....  Jacques Vallee discussed this years ago but then went quiet on it.
http://www.skinwalkerranch.org/rank.html

Microwave weapons are probably involved in certain "encounters".  Think engines deactivated, skin burns and loss of consciousness, time distortion.  Could remote viewing have been partly a test of these technologies and not just a psychic spying program?  Tum, de dum.... :D

:-X

And why is Springer closing threads that reveal that Bigalow owns the Ranch?  Doh!

My guess is he signed an NDA.
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

ArMaP

Quote from: Pimander on April 09, 2018, 01:39:37 PM
And why is Springer closing threads that reveal that Bigalow owns the Ranch?  Doh!
If that was the problem why didn't he remove the posts that say Bigelow owns the Ranch?

Irene

Quote from: ArMaP on April 09, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
If that was the problem why didn't he remove the posts that say Bigelow owns the Ranch?

Rocket scientists over there.  ::)
Shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods.....

zorgon

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Quote from: ArMaP on April 09, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
If that was the problem why didn't he remove the posts that say Bigelow owns the Ranch?

EVERYONE in UFOlogy knows that Robert Bigelow owns that ranch... What Springer is wanting to hide (at least for now) is HIS involvement (and perhaps ATS's) in that deal... The Gut said as much... that Springer went out to the Ranch with George Knapp and Jeremy 4 Names...

It's all about the money... like the time ATS spent $100,000 on that motor home to go to the Gilliland Ranch  that didn't produce much in the way of results.

Same MO that time  except the 'Star" was Robbie Williams...

I mean just look at these serious researchers looking for UFO's  LOL  (Sorry Johnny :P )



Back in 2007 at the San Jose UFO conference when we were all best of buddies and Springer suggested Pegasus put their stuff under ATS's roof (because he said my server couldn't handle the traffic :P ) he also told myself, John Lear and John Rhodes over drinks that ATS had received 1 miilion dollars from each of three Jewish businessmen to keep ATS going.

At the time we were going to build a booth and travel to various conventions.  The day after we returned that all changed...

The main reason I was banned from ATS was I asked too many questions about money over there :P  Seems they are touchy about that and prefer members to believe they are struggling to make ends meet :D

Yeah but they can afford a 100,000 motor home rental 

PS Springer's wife works for, and supports, Halliburton. And yes I have the documentations from both ATS and Halliburton


Number one rule applies

FOLLOW THE MONEY

And there is a LOT of money to be made in this Skin Walker deal

zorgon

Quote from: Pimander on April 09, 2018, 01:39:37 PM
Jacques Vallee discussed this years ago but then went quiet on it.

Jacques Vallee also denied what happened at Skin Walker  which is likely why he went silent  :P

Yes Rauscher is still around and John Alexander is on my list at FB


zorgon

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By the way  just so everyone is clear..

I trust ArMaP 100% to not being a spy for us or for them. He has full access to the Pegasus Server and has worked hard to keep us running

Just in case anyone was thinking 'conflict of interest' here

That's for any 'lurkers' that are reading this thread too :P

Pimander

Quote from: zorgon on April 09, 2018, 11:25:32 PM
Jacques Vallee also denied what happened at Skin Walker  which is likely why he went silent  :P
He was definitely on to something at one point in my opinion.

QuoteYes Rauscher is still around and John Alexander is on my list at FB
Yes I know because he's on mine too.   ::)

Quote from: ArMaP on April 09, 2018, 09:25:01 PM
If that was the problem why didn't he remove the posts that say Bigelow owns the Ranch?
Well he did say he wanted the privacy of the owner to be respected...  But if he wanted that then why do we know he visited the ranch?  Publicity?  ???